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Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Jules on April 13, 2008, 09:53:28 PM
Here's the legacy of posts from the old Manboard, right from the very beginning.

The posts are presented in chronological sequence, earliest first. If you've a mind to, have a read, but be warned, there are many pages, and not all the posts make sense........
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 27, 2001, 02:35:40 AM
Well, here's the first message on the new Bulletin Board. I hope everyone who finds their way here will also find it a worthwhile journey.

You can use smilies :) in the messages and can also use AGCodes (AG Code is 'advanced guestbook' that allows you to apply some simple formatting rules to your messages).

So you can use BOLD text, or you might choose italics for some reason.

You can also display images if you've a mind to. Which could be a handy way of adding fruit to the proceedings. (http://www.manband-archive.com/graphics/bullet-banana.gif)

To see how to do these extra bits and pieces, just click on the show legend link in the post a message dialogue.

If you'd like to see any other facilities added to the bulletin board, please let me know.

Jules
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 27, 2001, 01:43:10 PM
And here's a second post just so you know which way it works....
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 27, 2001, 01:57:53 PM
Jules - this is more like it - back to the scrolling message style of the old Bulletin Board and with the option to play around with 'smilies' if you so wish! :cool:
Now, who's off to the Patti on 14th July?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Ken on June 27, 2001, 02:05:45 PM
Like the look of the new board and I've added it to my favourites:cool:
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Stevil on June 27, 2001, 02:07:08 PM
Damn it was taken already....

Nice colours, Jules - reminds me of Lager and blackcurrant with a blue potato background. I approve. Do you take pop-up adverts?

(http://www.manband-archive.com/community/graphics/stephen-barstow.jpg)
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Gordon Luck on June 27, 2001, 02:35:57 PM
Great Jules! I can understand and use this board.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Dr John on June 27, 2001, 03:05:46 PM
Hi everyone. Just checking this out before I leave for work.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Tel on June 27, 2001, 03:07:04 PM
A site I can access and use - brill. Now where were we! - Tel
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Mike Aboud on June 27, 2001, 03:08:32 PM
This is more like it, and no more irritating adverts. Ah, heaven. :D
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Mike Aboud on June 27, 2001, 03:10:25 PM
Hey first to ten - is that a t-shirt-worthy milestone?;-)
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 27, 2001, 03:20:05 PM
When we get to twenty posts the earlier bulletins should start to wrap onto additional screens, and the navigation list box at the right (The white box with BULLETIN displayed) should start to make more sense too.

If any pilgrim has a burning desire for pop-ups and oodles of little blinky-blinky ads dotted around the place, I can sure oblige ya.

Personally I'm not yet convinced of the font size and colour choices. They looked fine when I threw this together at home last night, but in the office my PC suffers a bit from screen glare (on these rare days that the sun is shining) and some of the text against the blue background is very hard to read.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 27, 2001, 04:34:16 PM
Absolutely superb (with a slight reservation about the colours). Would it be better with the date in separate column so's not to detract from the message?



Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: halfamix on June 27, 2001, 06:36:08 PM
Hello All.
This is better and faster. And we all know that you've got to be good to yourself at least once a day :cool:
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rob Davies on June 27, 2001, 10:20:50 PM
Thanks for setting this up Jules. Two bulletin boards are better than one, and this bulletin board is better than the other one !! Who is doing the review of the RAH ?!
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 27, 2001, 11:51:04 PM
Mick, I've shunted the date over to the other column, and increased the font size a couple of points.

How's that?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 12:07:17 AM
I much prefer this one, Jules.  Now I can finally ask the six million dollar question - how come non of the Jolly Boys were featured in the belly button competition?  Too fluffy?  Glad to hear the RAH show was a cracker, despite every-damn-thing.  Looking forward to reading the reviews and HOPE to see you all at a gig soon!
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 12:13:40 AM
I should have a review of the RAH show sorted out by the weekend. Well, by a weekend anyway. I'm always delighted to receive input from other reviewers for inclusion in the Archive, so don't be shy.

By the way, if you purchased a back issue of TWC on Sunday, and somehow managed to lose it in all the excitement, drop me an e-mail quoting the issue number and I'll post it to you.

It seemed such a shame to leave it behind for the cleaners.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 01:18:55 AM
I hope someone else took some pictures at the show, because mine came out crap.

:-(

I didn't even get a decent shot of Jo and Lauren Ace dancing in the stalls during 'Romain'. Ah, the memories.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Louis Cipher on June 28, 2001, 09:50:16 AM
Ah, thats better. Stick another Christian on the fire and tell my wife I won't be home for lunch......
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Helen Oeuf on June 28, 2001, 09:52:25 AM
A fine fine effort, young webmaster. Much nicer than that horrid other thing that wouldn't let me in on iMusic. I shall now be able to pass on my comments and observations on life, the universe and Telly Savalas unabated, uncensored and unneccessarily
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Denzil Throbber on June 28, 2001, 09:54:14 AM
Somebody really should tell Maurice... he'll be heartbroken if he can't find us when he comes back from killing whichever brand of little yellow communists Uncle Sam has him pursuing in his big grey boat
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Mick Turpin on June 28, 2001, 10:10:45 AM
Date looks much better on the left.
By the way, what were you doing in the toilets with Jo and Lauren?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Mark Davies on June 28, 2001, 11:57:51 AM
Jules - this is a lot more user friendly :D
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Mark Davies on June 28, 2001, 01:43:30 PM
Good point about Maurice. Despite Jules good efforts I remain unconvinced that new posters will find this bulletin board as easily. How did we all find and join the iMusic bulletin board in the first place? After all we don't want to become suffer the fate of the dinosaurs.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 03:00:03 PM
Rover, a very valid point indeed. It will be important to create a trail of links all over the place to minimise the risk of people getting left behind.

The messages on this board (and the pages themselves) are stored in a database, and are not persistent on any server. I'd be surprised if anyone searching for 'Man' or 'Manband' would ever find it if they didn't already know it existed.

That's much the same however of the Artist Direct board, it's not a searchable service. You either know about it or you don't.

Judging by the infrequency of early posts on that service, it took a little while before the word spread, and I wasn't the only one who got there late. I became aware of the old iMusic board because Johnners directed me to it, and got actively involved because I was thrilled to discover there were actually other Manfans out there (even if my credentials were robustly queried after I expressed a preference for the Deke-less Manband lineup!). I'd be very interested to hear what other routes people followed.

Michael H has also included the iMusic URL in the useful links section of TWC, so that helped to publicise its existence to anyone who's a TWC subscriber. More recently, those of us that administer the various Man websites have also provided links to the bulletin board. These are perhaps the most likely route that newly online Manfans will follow, as the websites can be found reasonably quickly in the major search engines.

Other than that it's a question of getting out there and spreading the word.

Artist Direct do provide a good portal service for the music community in general. Since they took over iMusic the whole thing has been getting more and more commercialised (this being anaethema to Manfans of course) with ads becoming more and more intrusive, taking up more of the screen, and slowing down page loads to an anacceptable degree. I personally found the relatively recent introduction of pop-ups quite infuriating.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 03:12:26 PM
I have long since forgotten how I came across the old BBS in the first place. I guess it was probably whilst searching for CDs.

If those who have the time and inclination keep half an eye on the old BBS & add the occasional message redirecting traffic to here, I guess that will help to round up the odd stray who finds the original iMusic setup, but for my part, this is the dogs dangly bits, and back to where we were in the olden times.

So long as we leave a trail the determined will follow us home....
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 03:18:57 PM
Can I take a general consensus opinion on the wisdom of offering to share your spliff with one of your own 10 year old sons schoolteachers at one o'clock in the morning?

I'll get me coat......
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 03:20:20 PM
...and a well rounded and welcoming "Arse" to you all
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 03:21:28 PM
Quack
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rob Davies on June 28, 2001, 03:22:57 PM
I am sure that I would have found the Bulletin Board via a link on Tim's site. I had forgotten about Jules's partial heresy regarding a Deke-less Manband ! Although Back into the Future was the first Man album that I heard and it is pretty fantastic.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Niall Cameron on June 28, 2001, 03:26:48 PM
Hello to everybody.
This is my first adventure into the land of messaging, so please be gentle. It was not until quite recently that I discovered the legend that are MAN. In that short time I have managed to collect most of the back catalogue and have managed one gig, Blackpool Feb 2001. Fan f***in tastic. Devastated at having to miss RAH.

I am absolutely astounded at the level of information on the various websites run by what can only be described as life long enthusiasts of the Manband. Jules, do you ever get to see your family, you must put such a lot of time into your site - Awesome.

Doing a search for manband turned up some interesting results, the strangest being a site for "Magnetic sexual aid alternatives for relief of impotency", (requests for the URL will be treated in the strictest confidence).

Anyway, nice to be a part of the Manband family.

Niall
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 28, 2001, 04:33:24 PM
Niall, well you certainly hit on a great gig to start with. The Blackpool show was a cracker, and even more welcome being in the wild, wastelands north of Watford.

Hopefully, if we keep badgering them long enough, we'll get an Autumn tour that takes in some northern dates too.

There are already rumours of another attempt to raise funds for Bolette, perhaps later this year and perhaps in the greater Manchester area. I have no details at all.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Dave Bardsley on June 28, 2001, 05:15:34 PM
Congratulation on the new board Jules.  I can now communicate again (although only from the office).
Good to meet up with (most) all of you again on Sunday.  What a storming set!!!
Was anyone more pissed than Rob Davies?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Dave Bardsley on June 28, 2001, 05:17:29 PM
I reckon we all owe Jules a vote of thanks for, almost overnight (and including the weekend of a landmark Man gig), engineering both a new bulletin board and mailing list. The Evil Webmaster's devotion to the cause never ceases to amaze! Good on you Jules!
:D
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Dave Bardsley on June 28, 2001, 05:55:13 PM
Dave, I suspect so. Have you finished the poll functionsality yet Jules so we can vote for it?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Wyn Roberts on June 28, 2001, 07:12:04 PM
Jules,

 Thanks for putting this MB together.After two weeks I still hadn't managed to work out how to post on the new iMusic one!

I agree with the concensus that the boys played a terrific set on Sunday,lovely see them on a big stage again,but does anybody know;
A. What those pop groups were doing there?Another half an hour of Man would have done for me.
B. Why did so many of the promised artistes no show?
C. How many people actually turned up?I found it impossible to judge the numbers in such a huge space.It didn't look a big crowd but it nace quite a good noise!
D.Most importantly did the gig make a profit for the appeal?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rob Davies on June 28, 2001, 08:14:29 PM
Dave, glad that you are back on line ! How was your hang-over on Monday ?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: tony smith on June 28, 2001, 09:36:50 PM
thanks for doing this board jules i love reading all the postings and i know that a great deal of work went in to it thanks again, see you at the patti on the 14th?  
              tony.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: ron sanchez on June 28, 2001, 11:29:33 PM
okay, i've been gone for a while, and it seems like everything has changed. Well this forum anyway.Now that you are all done patting Jules on the back, get a copy of Malcolm's album without delay.

ron
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Alan Davies on June 29, 2001, 12:16:11 AM
Nice one Jules, this looks good and is user friendly. To those of you I spoke to on Sunday, sorry if I wasn't making much sense. A combination of Special Brew, 1664 and Strongbow seemed to cause some miscommunication between my brain and lower parts of my anatomy, particularly my legs and my mouth. Great to see you all though. Man - how do they still improve and surpise with every gig ? Sheer f*****g genius that's how.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Peter Brandholm on June 29, 2001, 07:51:58 AM
Jules!
Thank?s for the new board.
Regards
Peter Brandholm
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Dave Bardsley on June 29, 2001, 11:47:37 AM
Rob.  No hangover, but a little tired!  How could anyone feel ill after such a stunning set?
By the way is Alan claiming the Rob Davies Award?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 12:05:06 PM
Of course a suitable Rob Davies Award trophy would have to feature a man sitting on a fence. Or possibly just chundering over one.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 12:14:53 PM
Polls.

Good idea, I like them.

I have the basic code to support polls already in shape, and I can set up a single poll easily enough.

However, I'd like to allow everyone to set up their own polls (the Artist Direct board is a nice implementation of this principle), as that will be far more fun.

I have a bit more work to do before it becomes a reality, so I shall experiment further this weekend.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rob Davies on June 29, 2001, 01:33:50 PM
How I have missed being defamed on an easy access bulletin board ! Special Brew, 1664 and Strongbow is a fearsome combination Alan. I would also like to nominate Dave for the "Most consistent but unsuccessful attempts to start a Mexican Wave at a Man gig award". It was a brilliant set. Just sent off for my copy of Aliens and looking forward to listening to it afer the rave reviews from Tony, Tim and Ron.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rover Wots on June 29, 2001, 01:37:05 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with Ron's comments on Malcolm Morley's Aliens. It's an excellent album with lots of hidden stuff. The bass in particular is very strong. Anyone spotted reviews or the CD in the 'racks'?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rover Wots on June 29, 2001, 01:40:46 PM
Looking forward to the polls. Perhaps it's first use would be vote on the use of polls on the bulletin board?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rover Wots on June 29, 2001, 01:41:47 PM
Is anyone try to get number 50?
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Post by: Paul Reilly on June 29, 2001, 01:43:46 PM
Great new layout Jules. Well done!!!

An idea for discussion. You are most probably aware that at certain holiday camps during the off season they hold rock and roll weekends, seventies weekends, etc featuring some well known and lesser well known bands.

How about a Man / Welsh Connection Weekend. Start on a friday night, feature an early Man lineup, play stuff from that era, saturday midday, Man offshoot groups, Saturday Night,
Man of BGTY and BITF time featuring those two incredible albums, Sunday lunchtime, More Man offshoots, Sunday Night, back to the current lineup and the current album in its wonderful entirity.
You could even have side features, Book signings, album signings, meet the band, etc.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rover WOts on June 29, 2001, 01:45:54 PM
Ok I'll have it then
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Paul Reilly on June 29, 2001, 01:47:08 PM
Is this number 50
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Paul Reilly on June 29, 2001, 01:47:44 PM
Damn, Missed
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Post by: Paul Reilly on June 29, 2001, 01:56:04 PM
:D,really like the new format and speed.
Excellent job again Jules
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Post by: o'doodles on June 29, 2001, 02:06:18 PM
ah, good to see Ron Sanchez has posted! And yes, he's right.  I just heard Malcolm Morley's new album (Aliens)last night.  It's nothing like you'd expect.
He wrote a note to say that Richard Treece's vocals on a track called Xfiles is rather like Joe Pesci on helium!  Actually, I think he sounds like Capt. Beefheart on helium, but hey, what do I know?  I'll find out from Malc where this album is being sold - think he might be doing it himself until he finds a suitable outlet in Europe and USA.
Cheers all
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 02:10:16 PM
Paul, that's not far off some ideas that were being discussed for a Welsh Convention in 1999/2000. It didn't happen mind, but surely the time is ripe for another Convention?

One of the tentative plans was to take a weekend option on the Kings Hotel in Newport, and have a series of Man related concerts and showcases running through the weekend.

There was also talk of running several workshops, question and answer sessions, individual masterclasses. All this would be supported by side-stalls, covering merchandise, memorabilia, book signings, album signings, the works. You know, like a proper convention.

Another option was for Man to assume total control of Swansea for a weekend, running gigs at various venues around the town. There are plenty to choose from.

There could be room for hosting a "Manfan's Tour Of Swansea", taking in all the legendary local sights such as The Tenby, The Patti Pavillion, The Pant Y Gwyder, The Railmen's, The Langland Bay and so on. All fuelled by copious quantities of an appropriate local beverage of course.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 02:11:54 PM
Oh my God, is that the real Mystic Mo posting back there? We saved you a seat at the RAH just in case you changed your mind......
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 03:25:07 PM
The time's always right for another convention and a weekend do sounds excellent! Does Rob do divorce cases?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 08:16:39 PM
my ideal convention would be the edgar broughton band
nektar
neutrons, altatraz
malcom morley(playing aliens live)
man playing extra long set
man band members past and present play spunk rock for the final two hours.
 now thats what i call music
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 08:51:19 PM
This is much more like it - well done Jules yet again :-)
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rob Davies on June 29, 2001, 08:55:34 PM
Mick, not my area of expertise I am afraid although my wife has been known to use the words Manband and divorce in the same sentence. I like the idea of Man taking over Swansea for the weekend. The prospect of gigs at the Patti, the Railmens and maybe Terry's club ideally with appearances from the Jets, Iceberg, Alcatraz, Racing Cars, Quicksand, Malcolm Morley/Richard Treece/Ken Whaley/Dave Charles in any guise, a set from Micky and Deke doing 60s covers, Donovan's Brain, Martin's rock and roll band ( is it the Silverbirds?), Serratone, Jackie Leven, and nightly sets from Man would be fun.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Wren B on June 29, 2001, 08:59:35 PM
The Hawkwind.com website tour dates page has a mention of a Greasy Truckers 2001 at the London Astoria on 21/10 - Man are down as playing. Are you able to confirm or deny Jules? :-)
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rob Davies on June 29, 2001, 09:33:57 PM
Wren that was a superb spot. The Mean Fiddler website lists the gig but with no line up as yet. Tickets are available for ?16 plus the usual exorbitant booking fees and I have taken a punt that Man will be playing and bought a ticket. That's another Sunday acounted for with a difficult Monday morning to follow.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Kevin Tanswell on June 29, 2001, 09:41:32 PM
Nik Turner's Inner City Unit and Mick Farren & the Deviants are also billed for the Greasy Truckers gig on www.hawkwind.com. Must dig out my Afghan Coat and loon pants!
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 29, 2001, 11:58:21 PM
Yes, Man are confirmed at the Truckers reunion, LA2 on 21st October. I mean come on, you couldn't have a proper Truckers show without the Manband after all.

Jolly Boys Outing methinks.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on June 30, 2001, 01:32:18 AM
nik turner's inner city unit - a regular gig at the hope and anchor and all over, about the time of manipulator and the force - anyone ever help nik to raise the bones of elvis or watch the grass grow, or are manfans just too sophisticated - andy
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: andy mids on June 30, 2001, 01:34:07 AM
i like low tech posting - no offence
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Post by: AdamTone on June 30, 2001, 01:57:43 AM
Props yet again Jules. Ahh yes, i remember strongbow. Watch out under! Lavender's just a bit, ah, um, er, well pansys come to mind, not that there's anything wrong with that, if it's not unadviseable to bring it up,  but ... I happen to like green. eggs and ham. i am.
A
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Post by: AdamTone on June 30, 2001, 02:17:37 AM
Sage, perhaps?
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Post by: halfamix on June 30, 2001, 02:19:18 AM
"Elvis Presley American Dream Lived in Memphis Tennessee" I don't believe that we have had Inner City Unit,Edgar Broughton and Nektar mentioned in the same day! Man fans are obviously smoking good weed and listening to excellant sounds!
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Post by: halfamix on June 30, 2001, 02:21:31 AM
Number 69 yearrrh!!! Shame I ain't getting any!
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Post by: andy mids on June 30, 2001, 11:07:28 AM
i can hear it now halfamix - and i can see the bones clashing over nik's ed - the light bulb is swinging - ive reached over for my pass-out - space invaders moving in on us
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Post by: Howard Chard on June 30, 2001, 04:28:20 PM
Halfamix, where were we before we were so rudely interrupted.  Keith Ellis was indeed in Juicy Lucy "Lie Back and Enjoy It"...but the greatest bass player I ever saw was Colin Hodgkinson.  He used to play with Backdoor and solo with blues numbers accompanying himself on the bass.  I was with a bass player when I saw him at Ronnie Scotts.  The bass player kept saying "Thank God he doesn't read music".
I also saw Van De Graaf Generator at the Gwyn Hall, Neath.  That sax player seemed to get his clothes from the YCL catalogue in the days before Village People made such attire fashionable.
Man weekend at Swansea.  Yes, please!  Perhaps the greatest rock band ever to emerge from Wales could be introduced by the King...Herbie Williams.  What a winh half with those magic left foot passes around the fullback for Brian Evans to run onto.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on July 02, 2001, 12:36:21 PM
I like the idea of doing the Man weekender in Wales, makes it simpler for all the X-Man members to be available. Also like the idea of the Man tour of Swansea( and, of course, the drinking). How do we get this idea through to the boys in the band?
I would suggest the first weekend in October. Off season, but not too cold. good warm up to Greasy Truckers!!!
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Post by: Paul Reilly on July 02, 2001, 12:38:22 PM
By the way. is there going to be a prize for posting number 100?;-)
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on July 02, 2001, 03:28:47 PM
Sunday 21st October, Walter Trout at the Worcester Park Club.  Man at L.A.2.  Conflict of Interest.  I may need counselling...
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on July 02, 2001, 04:28:05 PM
Dave
Any more dates for Walter Trout, might he be wandering North of the Border?

Niall
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Post by: halfamix on July 02, 2001, 05:30:04 PM
Hello All
Dave there is no contest having seen both bands, Man win hands down and LA2 is the place to be!
Howard you mentioned seeing some excellant bass players well Percy Jones from Brand X gets my vote (how the man gets his fingers to move so fast is beyond me) you also mentioned the sax player from VDGG a Mr Dave Jackson, he still wears the same cloths including the leather hat with the silver sheriffs star on it! And is to be heard on the new Peter Hammill CD "What Now" released 25/6/01 and most excellant it is to!
Andy- I had the good fortune to play flute with Nik Turner at Stonehenge in the early 80's we both led a crowd of roughly 1000 into the Stones on the Summer Solstice for a bit of chanting and countless chillums!! ahh memories.
Put my name down for the Swansea weekend although the last time I made my way to Swansea was to see String Driven Thing and when I got there the gig was cancelled, so spent the evening in Barry where I almost got into a punch up for having long hair!!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on July 02, 2001, 06:23:37 PM
I have to say that last year's Walter Trout gig at Worcester Park was the Gig of the Year (yes, that includes Dingwalls!).  You might care to check Pete Feenstra's views, he promoted both gigs.  So you see my Conflict.
Still.  Lots of time to go...
Niall, WTB have a web site "www.waltertroutband.com" which might be worth keeping an eye on.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 03, 2001, 12:29:18 AM
Good evening gentlemen.

I have just received the following personal message:

"Good work on the new bulletin page. Now, if you can just get them to start yawping about their piles I might have to join in again."

It would be ungallant of me to reveal the source of said missive.

I understand that informative, illustrative and entertaining discourse on other wide-ranging subjects such as gout, halitosis, and that old favorite, stink-foot, may also encourage a response.

I thank you for your attention.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 03, 2001, 02:09:08 AM
Oi!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 03, 2001, 01:53:17 PM
You want to watch that Evil Webmistress, Anna, he has the ability to censo
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 03, 2001, 02:02:18 PM
What was that you were saying about piles, Rover?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: halfamix on July 03, 2001, 04:34:43 PM
Piles of what? Nose candy?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Rover Wots on July 03, 2001, 04:55:13 PM
I believe he is referring to my recent win on the Premium Bonds.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: The Turk on July 03, 2001, 07:53:37 PM
Half a mix,your cover has been sussed are you the chap on the Stonehenge Peoples Free Festival vid from 1984 wearing the trilby?
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Tel on July 04, 2001, 07:53:57 AM
Message no 86 - here we go again.:-)
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Post by: Ian Johnson on July 04, 2001, 05:39:06 PM
Never mind piles, have I told you about my gout?........such pain only my enemies should feel......
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Post by: Paul Reilly on July 04, 2001, 06:03:05 PM
Any News on the rest of the lineup for Greasy truckers LA2 in October?
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 07:08:17 PM
One date it looks like they won't be playing this year is the Canterbury Festival on 18 August. See http://www.canterburyfestival.com/ for those who will be there; also for news that it will be video-ed. (Now where have we heard that before).
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 10:12:31 PM
i notice that heyday mail order in the back of this months uncut magazine are advertising beat club dvds 70, 71,72,73, i think man played on this program does any one know for sure and if so which year has any one seen the dvds and are man on any. thanks tony
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 10:41:02 PM
Jules, Why does it say total records 90 above the top left corner, yet I can only access up to message No. 80?  Did you have a starter for 10 or am I doing something wrong?
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 10:42:27 PM
Oops, no problem - I can now assess 81-90.
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:03:29 PM
Is the Patti gig definitely on???
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:04:28 PM
I need to know asap.
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:05:01 PM
Because I'm off on holiday soon...
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:06:12 PM
And I might slip a Mangig in on the way home.
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:08:42 PM
All is quiet.  Tel's not around (or is he?) and Heron's in Malta...
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:09:31 PM
So I think I'll chance my luck
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:10:07 PM
and go for it
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Post by: Tim W on July 04, 2001, 11:10:42 PM
Tra-la-la-la!!
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Post by: Tim W on July 05, 2001, 12:00:39 AM
Congrats on reaching 100 years old, I'm sending Mummy around with a bag of skunk and a purse full of Bolivian marching powder for a big party, halfamix told me you would all enjoy this?:cool:
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Post by: Tel on July 05, 2001, 09:11:06 AM
Heres to 200
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Post by: Louis Cipher on July 05, 2001, 09:57:45 AM
Well I'll be damned.....
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Post by: Paul Reilly on July 06, 2001, 10:14:34 AM
I've just seen on Martins site that Man are playing the Cardiff Arena on Saturday 29th September with Budgie, Racing Cars, Sassafras etc. Is this a cause for massive rejoicing, or just another excuse for a JBO.
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Post by: Tel on July 06, 2001, 10:44:08 AM
Paul - The greasy truckers gig (October 21) is being accorded the status of Jolly Boys Outing, the first official one since Dingwalls I believe. Mainly because of historical associations. However I think a few worthy souls may be heading to Cardiff in September for this soiree - Tel
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Post by: Tel on July 06, 2001, 12:35:02 PM
See Martin has posted some pictures from RAH etc. on the official site...
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Post by: Tel on July 06, 2001, 12:55:08 PM
Well all the talk at last night's first Masons Arms Fist Fest acoustic evening, apart from my stirring rendition of the fish song and the jazz band in the Thomas arms, was about John Ottoway playing at the Pattii with Man. Who else is playing that evening?
And not to disturb you too much now that you're settled on your new bulleting board but there are a couple of Man yahoo clubs with facilities for a photo album, links and inviting people.
:P
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 06, 2001, 02:57:05 PM
The RAH photos on the Official Man website are from Ron Degiorgio, and very good they are too so he deserves a mention. I think there may be some others in the pipeline covering the whole event.

Fostz , yup John Otway will be at the Patti with Man next weekend. Not to be missed. The other band on the bill are the Fire Breathing Penguins. They're Jacks, so you Turks may need to be wary of the flames.
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Post by: tony on July 06, 2001, 11:20:44 PM
if you havent seen the photos on the man site they are well worth a look and are some of the best photos of the band ive seen in a long time (are any for sale)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 07, 2001, 02:36:58 AM
Tony, I'll make some enquiries regarding the sale of prints of Ron D's photos.
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Post by: tony on July 07, 2001, 02:23:11 PM
thanks jules, are you going to the patti next week :D
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on July 07, 2001, 04:34:16 PM
Yes, let's have a roll-call for the Patti next Saturday - it should be an excellent night - I'll be there - can anyone tell me the name of the big pub on the bay-front a few hundred yards from the venue? It makes a good meeting point.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 07, 2001, 05:48:32 PM
Tony, No sadly I'm not expecting to be at the Patti next weekend.

It's still high on my list of places to visit, but I'm forced to give it a miss on this occasion :mad:

I hope everything goes well, and Otway and the Penguins show up. It wouldn't do to have two gigs on the trot with a collapsing underbill.

A special wish for Bob and Lisa Richards, as the baby is due any day now. On or about July 14th I believe.
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Post by: tony on July 07, 2001, 11:14:37 PM
ive never played drums before but i could give it a go , if bob gets the call many are called but i'll get up.:eek:
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Post by: tony smith on July 08, 2001, 05:53:43 PM
can any one out there help me here, ive been looking for the last 10 years or so for a album by the broughtons called parley vous english does any one have a copy they could tape or burn on to cd for me or does any one know where i could get a second hand copy
      thanks tony. :d
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Post by: Howard Chard on July 08, 2001, 06:39:12 PM
Wyn Roberts questions about the RAH at No 36, are yet to be answered.  What amazes me is that Bonnie Tyler was in London that weekend.  She was promoting her compilation album on London Live's Mel+Sue show on Saturday morning.  I assume an additional booking that she felt obliges to fulfill.  I was surprised she made no reference to Phil and Bolette Ryan or Man even when asked about rock musicians.  
Andy Fairweather was always likely to have difficulty making it in time given the time difference between UK and New York and the Eric Clapton tour was not finishing until the Saturday night at Madison Square Gardens.
In addition to a big thankyou to John Otway, thanks to the Ben Waters band for stepping in at such short notice.
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Post by: tony on July 08, 2001, 08:14:36 PM
kevin thank you i,ve ordered the lp the long search is nearly over thanks for that site its a goldmine, now all ive got to do is transfer it to cd  cheers tony
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Post by: halfamix on July 09, 2001, 02:06:57 AM
I take it that you have managed to find yourself a copy of the Broughtons LP Tony? I am a real Edgar Broughton Band fan and luckily have it all on vinyl. Most of the LP's have been rereleased onto CD but the "Parlez-Vous English" & "Live Hits Harder" both from 1979 have not!
Enjoy:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 09, 2001, 02:43:32 AM
Although I wouldn't lay claim to any inside knowledge on matters behind the Albert Hall Experience, here's my two penny worth.....

Wyn asked "Can anyone tell me :"

A. What those pop groups were doing there? Another half an hour of Man would have done for me.

Well after all the 'name' acts either dropped out or mysteriously found prior engagements, the hunt was on for someone who might have a stab at boosting the audience numbers. Several popular South Wales, and London based acts were approached, but no positive responses were received. The collection of sub 'Pop-Stars' who did show up, did so at extremely short notice, with hardly any preparation, and without any expectation of a sympathetic audience. They were, I believe, some of the artistes who didn't quite make the grade during the auditions for 'HearSay'.

Personally I felt they were very brave in facing a battle-hardened audience of avid Manfans (because let's face it no-one else's fans turned up in numbers), but the material was not to my taste, and seemed eminently forgettable.

(Nice belly-buttons though, eh Rover?)

I agree, another half hour of Man would have been preferable, allowing Many Are Called to be played, and avoiding the somewhat disjointed and rushed end to the set.
 
B. Why did so many of the promised artistes not show?

Now that's a damned fine question, but one to which only they really know the answers. There are some doubts (allegedly) that a few of the advertised acts even knew they'd been booked. Arguably the problems stem from the niaive belief that offers made in good faith, and promises made without the discipline of a formal contract, will hold up to the harsh realities of poor advance ticket sales and invisible publicity. I must confess to a certain surprise that Pete Brown didn't make it, especially as he was one of the main instigators of the Bolette Ryan fund. No doubt he has his reasons.
     
C. How many people actually turned up? I found it impossible to judge the numbers in such a huge space. It didn't look a big crowd but it made quite a good noise!

I think the audience numbered approximately 400 or so, and the front section of the centre arena was reasonably well populated (hello folks, you know who you are). The rest of the audience though was fairly widely distributed around the main body of the  hall, and certainly seemed very sparse.
   
D.Most importantly did the gig make a profit for the appeal?

Erm, no. The event has come in at a substantial loss. This will probably be absorbed in the short-term by the two main sponsors of the event, who are both committed Manfans (and by now almost certainly wish that they had been). Knowing the way some members of the band feel about it, I'm sure every attempt will be made to redress the shortfall through other efforts.

Financially the event itself was disappointing. Musically it was very rewarding, and it was a genuine thrill to see Man playing in an auditorium that is worthy of them. I can't agree with a post I saw on the Yahoo board that suggested they played a below-par set.

It was fantastic to hear the band's sound spreading out into spaces you just can't get in smaller venues. The breadth and depth of the songs really shines in a good sized hall. Man have always been a 'big' band in my view, and The Coal Exchange in Cardiff is the only other place I've seen them in these last few years that does them similar justice.

Man at the Royal Albert Hall. I was there. Proudly.
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Post by: tony on July 09, 2001, 07:45:30 AM
halfamix yes thanks i have now found a copy of the broughtons and am eagerly awaiting it  i have a copy of live hits harder on cd which i have had now for at least 10 years  on the big z lable if you wish i could burn you a copy  
    tony
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Post by: halfamix on July 09, 2001, 01:38:06 PM
Thanks for the offer Tony. That must be a bit of a rarity.Is the label a Swiss label as the original vinyl is on BB Records from Switzerland? Thanks for the offer to burn me a copy, are there any extra tracks on the little 5 incher? (oooh misses) as I do have the original vinyl
Re:..RAH..I presume Arthur Brown wasn't at the RAH as I do know that he was still awaiting confirmation that he was actually playing and he has been having a few problems with Guitarists!!!!!
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 09, 2001, 02:23:57 PM
I was told this weekend that Arthur Brown had been spotted at the RAH, briskly striding around the corridors in search of a band willing to back him. I didn't see him myself, and he certainly wasn't evident onstage.
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 09, 2001, 02:48:34 PM
Back from holiday and first day back at work :-)

A shame about the way the RAH worked out but good to hear that those that attended had a good time.  As compensation :rolleyes: I got to see Maltese legend Renato (yes, as in Rene and...)  It's not really the same though, is it?
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 09, 2001, 02:49:18 PM
That first smilie should be :-(
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Post by: halfamix on July 09, 2001, 05:22:31 PM
It should have been a :o for seeing Renato? I'm abit worried about you Allan did the sun get to you or were you just missing your daily fix of Man music :D
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 09, 2001, 05:40:40 PM
He was the (free) entertainment at the holiday complex I was staying at.  I only stayed long enough for a coffee and a Drambuie so did not have the dubious pleasure of hearing the full set.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 09, 2001, 06:34:44 PM
Just so you don't get bored with the old colour scheme I've changed it. You may have noticed.

The polling centre will be on it's way very soon now. Keep an eye on the links at top page right to see when the new functions have been installed.
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 09, 2001, 07:18:08 PM
Poll : What's your favourite track on 'Endangered Species'?

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Post by: Allan Heron on July 09, 2001, 07:44:56 PM
Still no Neutrons dammit.
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 09, 2001, 08:25:24 PM
Half a mix.
Are you going to Swansea on saturday.Im
going down with a couple of pals.If so
i will bring (The keep)cdr,s with me.
Hope to see you there.
   Best regards    Colin.
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Post by: halfamix on July 10, 2001, 01:29:49 AM
Astro Man
I really want to go on Saturday but I've no way of getting there or back and its probably to late to try and arrange something now! My Trike MOT has run out and my motorcycle will probably blow up if I try to coax it to Swansea!! I'm trying to persuade my mate (Who drives one of these tin box things) to go to Cardiff on Sept 29th so might see you there. Mind you there is a few days left yet,so I'll put brain in gear to try and think of a way of getting there? Does anyone know of a cozy park bench in Swansea?:-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 10, 2001, 11:02:35 AM
:-) Hey everybody.... let's have some fun.... you only live but once.... and when you're dead you're done.

So of course you can't possibly have any objection to spending a bit of money while you're still alert enough to enjoy the results.

:D Ron Degiorgio is willing to make prints of his RAH pictures available for purchase if there's enough demand. To mark the occasion, the price of the prints will include a percentage donation to the Bolette Ryan fund.

If anyone hasn't seen the examples of Ron's excellent work yet, nip over to Martin Ace's website (by clicking on the link at the left) immediately.

I hope to have some more of the photos available soon, to illustrate a gig review. A set of black and white photos from the spring visit to the Standard in Walthamstow will also be loaded.

If you would be interested in copies, just click the Yes button in the survey above this post.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 10, 2001, 11:04:39 AM
Poll : Would you be interested in buying copies of Ron Degiorgio's Albert Hall photos?

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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 10, 2001, 02:00:16 PM
Richard Thompson is God! That's all I can say after witnessing his monumental solo acoustic show at Cheltenham Town Hall last night. Add to that the rousing performance by Eliza Carthy and her band at the same venue the previous night and one is tempted to think that things cannot get much better....but there is still of course the little matter of this Saturday night at the Patti - what a week!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 10, 2001, 11:00:18 PM
And anyone wanting to buy prints of last week's T?do, Artimus Crisis and Shredder gig in Stamps can buy them from me. If you want to see the photos beforehand they're at my new band gallery page here I suppose I should put a photo of Deke up in the legends of Turk Rock gallery. :D Any good photos of Turk Rockers floating about?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 11, 2001, 12:02:05 AM
:rolleyes: Any good Turk rockers floating about?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 11, 2001, 01:54:12 PM
Micky Groome's got a new CD (called 'Yo') out soon on Legroom Records. You might recall that he was part of the Ducks Deluxe, Tyla Gang and Force family a few years back. He doesn't appear to have aged at all since then.

Micky's joined the Manband Webring, but clicking the link left of here will get you to his site more directly.
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Post by: Tim W on July 11, 2001, 07:22:50 PM
Malcolm Morley will be visiting San Francisco this summer. Anyone who knows of any friendly radio stations, record shops or the like who might be interested in promoting his new CD Aliens, please get in touch via the Feedback Form at
http://www.malcolm-morley.com

Thanks...
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Post by: Rob Davies on July 11, 2001, 07:50:50 PM
I have listened to 8 tracks of Aliens so far and I have been very impressed. The track featuring Richard Treece is a particular highlight. I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to get to Swansea on Saturday night but I hope evreyone who can get there has a great time.
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Post by: Fostz on July 12, 2001, 03:04:57 PM
If you're looking for somewhere to go before the Patti gig, there's an all-day festival in Carway that day at Carway football club, welfare park Entry ?4  under 10's free (money for Singleton Hospital Cancer research unit)2pm till late
Local minibus company will do discount rates for the day call 01267 861936
Bands include Stickman, Tyderium, Goatboy, Badge and Flood.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on July 13, 2001, 10:13:31 AM
have a great day at the patti on Saturday. I can't be there because of work, but I'll be thinking of the great God Micky Jones creating sublime sounds for you all to enjoy.:eek:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on July 13, 2001, 08:09:07 PM
Hi everyone. Is there a better guitarest
than the great Micheal Jones in the British isles? I very much doubt it!
Hey chaps! The man is a genius. The MAN
band,YOU know it makes sense.
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Post by: Bradley on July 13, 2001, 09:58:29 PM
I'm having problems posting to Malcolm's feedback page.  Is there some other way of contacting him?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 13, 2001, 10:56:40 PM
Bradley, you could try sending an e-mail to the address shown just left of here. I'm sure your mail will get passed onwards promptly.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 14, 2001, 04:05:22 PM
Colin: Yes, as you wrote, Micky is indeed the GuitarEST.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 14, 2001, 04:14:30 PM
Aliens: I can't put this CD down - and it just gets better and better. Richard Thompson might be God on stage and pretty damn good on record, but Malcolm has for the 5th time created something "out of this world". Thanks for bothering for us mortals, Malcolm (at least a higher life form, if not the highest). Hallelujah. And now to see what kind of competition the newly arrived latest critically acclaimed Jackie Leven CD "Creatures of Light and Darkness" can come up with...
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Post by: Tim W on July 14, 2001, 07:22:51 PM
Apologies to Bradley and anyone else trying to use the feedback form at malcolm-morley.com... there's been a security loophole discovered in the cgi script which it (and much of the rest of the world) uses for form-to-email, and my hosting company has (sensibly) disabled it. The fix they have provided (less sensibly) doesn't work. In the meantime, forward any messages for Malcolm to me and I'll make sure he gets them. Normal service (such as it is) will be restored shortly. Probably.
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Post by: Tim W on July 15, 2001, 12:30:22 AM
Wanted a lift from Kettering Northampton to and from the Man Concert on 29th September in the Cardiff CIA. Share petrol costs.
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Post by: Tim W on July 15, 2001, 10:08:37 AM
Quality quality quality.The superb Man-band never cease to amaze me.A fantastic
night down here in Swansea with a healthy crowd and a great atmosphere.The
return of the prodigal sons was an absolute pleasure.Strongbow at a hefty ?2
per can but the tremendous amount of voluptuous female bottoms more than made up for the expense.John otway ,what a character great entertainment.The penguins were also a good band,but is there a better guitarest than mr Jones
around here?No chance.Thank you Man for
yet another night of awesome entertainment.
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Post by: Tim W on July 15, 2001, 03:00:24 PM
Those who weren't at the Patti last night missed an outstanding evening - the Fire Breathing Penguins, four youngsters with attitude, a penchant for Guns'n'Roses covers and a considerable local following (with one particularly nubile young lady writhing around on her back on the dance-floor during the last number!) Otway brought the house down with young and old alike warming to his eccentric stage show. He can best be described as a national treasure, a total nutter that only this country could produce! The Manband again were exemplary, performing their usual full set to a loyal and enthusiastic audience (with the exception of 'Romain' as second encore - I suspect it fell foul of time constraints). An added bonus featured the arrival on stage of Clive John to partner Gareth on keyboards during 'Bananas' - it was that sort of night, one to go down in Swansea folklore!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 16, 2001, 02:33:53 AM
:p Well at last I managed to get a review of the Albert Hall gig written up.

:D There are also three separate galleries of photos and scans to stir a few memories.

:cool: Not only is the RAH review available, but Clifton Jones has sent in a review of Saturday night's show at the Patti Pavillion too.

Just click the link at the left to visit the Archive.
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Post by: Tim W on July 16, 2001, 04:28:31 PM
The feedback form at malcolm-morley.com is now working again.
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Post by: Tim W on July 16, 2001, 08:33:13 PM
Any more news re the Man DVD?      ps, thanks Jules for setting this board up, I was getting severe withdrawal symptoms.
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Post by: Tim W on July 16, 2001, 09:49:35 PM
i have been informed that there is two man related releases out next week one is a bystanders cd im not sure of the other any one know anything,  nice to see lots of old friends and new friends at the patti on sat,has bobs wife had the baby yet if its a boy meybe he could call him micky!! cheers  tony
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Post by: Tim W on July 16, 2001, 10:04:24 PM
Jules,

Just read your review of the Albert Hall concert and wanted to say 'hear hear'.

As a long-lost Manfan returning to the fold, the entire event was a remarkable, almost spiritual, experience - meeting new friends in The Goat, saying hello to Micky, being in the front row . . .

Consequently, it's difficult to be objective about the event, but who wants to be?

The band were stupendous: exactly what I was hoping for! I mentioned to someone [tall, Man fanatic, works for Dixons (Heathrow Airport?)] in The Goat that I hadn't seen them since the mid-seventies and had consequently lost touch, he reassured me that they would certainly play a few numbers I'd remember - he wasn't wrong!

Thanks, Man, for a revelatory experience; thanks, Jules, for writing about it!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on July 16, 2001, 10:30:13 PM
Now, if Russ's posting isn't a total justification for the RAH show then I don't know what is.
Prodigal Russ.  Well Done You.
Dave.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 17, 2001, 10:51:42 AM
There was no sign of the baby Richards up to mid-afternoon yesterday.

:D As its father is a drummer, there should surely be no surprise that it will arrive late.

:-) On a completely unrelated topic, I see Mike B has just caught up with us all.
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Post by: halfamix on July 17, 2001, 02:42:24 PM
Great to hear you all had a splendid time on Saturday,I'm jealous as ****. I'm still on for Cardiff in September so hope to see you all there.
:cool:
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Post by: Mike B on July 17, 2001, 05:19:16 PM
Well, EW, you guys are zipping around these days, all over the place.
Reminds me of those people that hang out with musicians.
Speaking of whom, The greater the amount of cymbals, gives more things to hit, which gives more chance of something played being in the correct time.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on July 17, 2001, 06:06:38 PM
Well Done Jules, Great review of The Albert Hall gig.

Roll on Cardiff. Man, plus Budgie, last seen at the Pavilion in Barry, supporting Hawkwind, circa 1974/5. :-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 17, 2001, 11:53:03 PM
Just added Wren Bull's pictures to Cliff Jones' review of the Patti gig.

Good to see them wearing tasteful shirts for a change. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 18, 2001, 01:15:12 AM
I agree totally with Kevin Tanswell.Man's performance on Saturday at the PATTI was 100% awesome.The band were incredibly tight.I was lucky enough to speak to ACE the BASS after the show and he thouht that was their best performance in many a year.My favourite song from the gig was POPEMOBILE.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 18, 2001, 11:39:19 AM
God can wear any kind of shirt he likes as far as I am concerned..
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Post by: michael heatley on July 18, 2001, 04:05:18 PM
All right, fellas? Just to let the world know that the Deke reprint has landed, and we will have all orders dispatched on or before Friday! Rhinos Winos & Lunatics Remixed is finally here...
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Post by: Rob Davies on July 18, 2001, 04:44:10 PM
Fantastic news Michael ! Excellent photos Wren. Steph B, what do you think of the new Jackie Leven album ?
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 18, 2001, 04:49:21 PM
Also for Steph B = did you go to see the Bobster and how was he.  I'm told by a totally unobjective that he was immense at Stirling, and have also seen great reviews of Liverpool.  New album in September too!!  Listened to a great bootleg from his 1979 religious tour - a hot band, hot tunes and a disgruntled audience cause he played 100% new stuff. His "preaching" between songs was hilarious, although this may have been unintentional.  Sample - "And Jesus said to Peter you will be the rock around which my church will be formed.......but he was always saying things like that"!! :p
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Post by: Rover on July 19, 2001, 02:10:55 PM
A word of apology on behalf of SB. Today is the day when the blue potato harvest is brought in. So Steph and his merry band of trolls will be busy.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on July 19, 2001, 10:12:21 PM
Sorry.  Can't let this pass.  Has Rover got the saddest email address ever, or is he taking the piss?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 19, 2001, 10:16:00 PM
Rover taking the piss? Whatever next? No, I think he's genuine enough
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 20, 2001, 12:13:31 AM
I think these are disgraceful slurs on the integrity of a fellow Manfan.
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 20, 2001, 12:15:27 AM
I put in an amusing (to me at least e-mail address and it didn't take.  Boo Hoo.

For those interested, it was jarcherserving@hermajestyspleasure.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 20, 2001, 12:35:59 AM
Yes, I have a special filter running against all these posts, looking for good gags to steal and take the credit for. :D

The length of the e-mail id field has now been increased to 64 characters to minimise the risk of reducing jeffrey's term.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 20, 2001, 03:04:14 AM
Is the date set for GT2 yet?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 20, 2001, 03:05:37 AM
ps Arse
pps Goodnight
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 20, 2001, 01:07:40 PM
GT2 @ LA2 = 21/10/01
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 20, 2001, 01:15:45 PM
Anybody lend me a laptop for the next four years? I feel another rip-roaring volume of cliched characters doing unlikely things in incredible circumstances coming on. Nice to have a bit of time to myself to work on it,should be a corker....its about this bloke who gets this burglar to knock off this prostitute in a road accident because she's the only one who knows the real truth about a libel court case he's involved in.......whaddya mean you've heard it.....
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Post by: Ian Johnson on July 20, 2001, 01:35:03 PM
This week's purchases....
Alabama 3 - La Peste ...wonderfully dark
Zappa - Zoot Allures....how did I miss this 25 years ago?
King Crimson - Court of the Crimson King ... well, I used to own it on vinyl and I miss it
Bill Wyman & the Rhythm Kings - Double Bill....fabulous, esp the Albert Lee bits
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 20, 2001, 03:50:06 PM
Schizoid Man still sounds totally modern and the instrumental break in the middle has to be one of the most thrilling pieces of music ever committed to vinyl - a real roller-coaster ride.   The drumming is also first rate as well.

I've been listening to a number of Neil Young shows from his current tour with the Horse - they are totally on fire!!

:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on July 20, 2001, 04:57:57 PM
Hi Everyone
All the early Crimson albums are excellant and landmark LP's in "prog" rock.
Coincidence on the new Alabama 3 CD as I ordered that last week as well; as their first CD is brilliant. I drunk all night with the members of the Alabama 3 in the Green room at Glastonbury a couple of years ago, they are completely mad! But really good fun,I then had a twelve hour shift to work at the festival so you can imagine what a state I was in!:cool:
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Post by: Mary Archers bank balance on July 20, 2001, 11:18:54 PM
How are you HALF MAN? Great night at Swansea as i previously posted.See you in the capital in september.MICKY JONES?
Awesome need i say more. The keep will be there.
          Regards        Astrophobia
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Post by: Judge james pickles on July 20, 2001, 11:23:10 PM
For those about to lie i salute you.
Romains a bas***d.
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on July 21, 2001, 12:27:09 AM
Rob: Haven't had much chance to listen properly to the album yet - too busy organising the up and coming Trondheim Convention of Manoraks at which a sizeable proportion of Manoraks are taking part - kicks off this Saturday. Have been busy polishing the Man and offshoots collection (have put off the b.p. harvest until Rover's arrival). Allan: Yes, I did attend the Dylan concert with 15,000 others in the town square on an unusually hot evening in Trondheim. I must admit the first half left me a bit cold, not helped by the fact that his voice didn't warm up until about halfway through. The second half was much better. Glad I went, but a long way from "immense" in my opinion. Many were disappointed. Two days later he played Bergen and the reports were similar (his voice was crap up to about half way).
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Post by: Tel on July 21, 2001, 09:41:42 AM
On the Archer theme - quote of yesterday - is he now in Burke's Porridge? :-)
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Post by: halfamix on July 21, 2001, 03:05:36 PM
Yes I am hoping to be in Cardiff on 29/9/01 but I am also tempted by GT2 now I wonder if I could do both, we all know it makes sense!
I am looking forward to listening to "The Keep" Astro Man, is there anything I can do for you?
Just had a report from someone who went to see The Carl Palmer Band the other night, apparently it was like a heavy metal ELP with lots of guitars and no keyboards? And the only sign of a drum solo was in the encore!
Regards to all
:cool:
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Post by: Mary Archer on July 21, 2001, 10:26:46 PM
After a lot of persuading,the wife said lets go to Cardiff shopping with the kids
I said yeh ok?! Got down there to see a multitude of fine bosoms and bottoms,while i escaped for a slimy pint in the wonderful KIWIS bar for a pint, a chap said aint you gonna see the phonics?
they are Wales greatest.Puzzled i looked at him and said,OK son they are a fine outfit,BUT Wales number 1.As we all know theres only the greatest of Welsh number ones.Its a joke.the MAN-band without doubt Wales greatest creation.Untouchable
     He he he Regards from  Colin.
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Post by: Jeffrey archers bonked anus on July 21, 2001, 11:13:50 PM
Come on Jeffrey,pick that soap up.
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 23, 2001, 10:09:55 AM
Steph - many thanks for the feedback on the Bobster.  Click the link to find a review of the show.  Even the enthusiasts seem to agree with your assesment
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 23, 2001, 10:12:13 AM
Sorry - that was Bergen.  Try this one for Trondheim
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Post by: Ian Johnson on July 23, 2001, 10:34:35 AM
...always gleeful to find a Manlink, the legendary B J Cole played steel guitar (what else?) on the Alabama 3 album "Exile on Coldharbour Lane"....

Just thought I'd mention it.

I'll get me coat.
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 23, 2001, 11:01:21 AM
The Man DVD is advertised on Play247 with a release date of 20/8 at a cost of ?11.99.

I use this site for Region 1 DVD's - they are very reliable and extremely good value
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Post by: Ian Johnson on July 23, 2001, 06:45:39 PM
Sorry to keep on about the Alabama 3, but they've really got under my skin...I love it....even if I don't think I quite understand what (if anything) they getting at.....and this just gets better and better......not only did the legendary BJ Cole play on Exile on Coldharbour lane, but it seems Robert Spragg AKA the Reverend Larry Love is..........A WELSHMAN! (despite the deep Alabamy accent...)
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Post by: ron sanchez on July 23, 2001, 06:45:39 PM
BJ Cole also played with REM on record and live. It was Treece who got BJ to play at the Patti gig. In one of those weird links: Scott McCaughey played with BJ in REM and with Treece in the Brains. A small circle of friends as someone once said
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Post by: Bananaman on July 24, 2001, 01:02:25 AM
And because BanAnna's not here
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Post by: Bananaman on July 24, 2001, 01:02:57 AM
I
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Post by: Bananaman on July 24, 2001, 01:04:06 AM
think
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I'll
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make
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a
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Post by: Bananaman on July 24, 2001, 01:05:54 AM
bid
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Post by: Bananaman on July 24, 2001, 01:06:12 AM
for 200
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Post by: Monkey on July 24, 2001, 01:07:21 AM
You know, that shouldn't be at all satisfying, but somehow it is. Delicious. Love them bananas Man.
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Post by: halfamix on July 24, 2001, 01:54:46 AM
Ian as I indicated in earlier post the Alabama 3 are all totally mad the persona's that they have on their records are also what they carry on with off record! Fake accents etc. As stated earlier I partied with them for a good 6 to 7 hours solid and not once did the act (if indeed it is a act) falter, caught their show later the next evening, after seeing Steve Hillage, and they are excellant live and much better than on record but we all know of another band that are also better live, don't we? :cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 24, 2001, 04:25:03 PM
I see that the Classic Pictures website is up and running - it shows the release date of the Man DVD as 10/9/2001.  That's 10 September for all you Americans out there!!! :p
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 24, 2001, 04:33:07 PM
Hey !
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Post by: Ian Johnson on July 24, 2001, 06:40:24 PM
....interesting that in the states the Alabama 3 are known as "A3" as they were prevented from using the name by a court injunction taken out by a C & W act called Alabama.....

....I thought we'd decided that there was no mileage for the boys recently in trying to stop the laughably pathetic and thoroughly fake "Manband" from using the moniker?
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Post by: Insp Clousseau on July 24, 2001, 06:42:08 PM
'av you got a lee-cence for your minkey?
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Post by: Hercule on July 25, 2001, 10:32:45 AM
Mais oui mon inspectuer, il est sur la burm.
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Post by: Michael Heatley on July 25, 2001, 11:28:15 AM
I have to pass on the fact I've found someone in the Jones realm as far as Strat-playing is concerned. He's Jeff Pevar and he plays with CPR, David Crosby's new band. They were fab at ther Jazz Cafe last night and anyone with ?30 to blow should catch last night of tour tonight. I would if I could... Alternatively their new album is 'Just Like Gravity'. Guitarists like this are an endangered species.
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Post by: halfamix on July 25, 2001, 12:42:35 PM
Hi Michael, I must check out this Jeff Pervar that you mention but if bands charge ?30 for a gig I am not surprised that quality guitarists are a scarce commodity as no one can afford to go and see them !!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 25, 2001, 02:21:34 PM
Michael - I'm extremely jealous.  I only found out that CPR were playing in London this week and it was too late for my famed business meeting organisation skills to come into play.  I've always loved Crosby and his recent work with CPR is top notch.  Pity he suffers from Manitis and can't find his way north of the border!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 25, 2001, 03:47:21 PM
...arr, but on moi map, northa Hadrians wallm, it just says ....there be dragons...
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 25, 2001, 03:49:24 PM
Me again - I wonder if the Man DVD is going to be in the same format as the recent ELP reissue of Pictures At An Exhibition.  This is produced by the same company and is a dual CD/DVD.  The DVD's on one side of the disk but if you turn it over you have a CD of the soundtrack which can be played on your CD player.  A lot of the same company's releases seem to be in this format.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 25, 2001, 06:20:04 PM
Sain are once again selling the 1986 "Valley Lights" collection on cassette. This has Martin's version of 'Bells Of Rhymmney' on it, and he also appears playing bass for Cromlech on another track.

Not much chance of ever seeing it in the shops, but you can order direct from the website. Click the link in the homepage box to visit them. Mine was ordered on Saturday and arrived in a well protected package on Tuesday.

Mustn't grumble.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 25, 2001, 08:53:55 PM
Click clack.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 26, 2001, 12:36:18 AM
Hey Bananna. It's me this time.
Just grabbin a dolphin....
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 26, 2001, 01:25:16 PM
What about manband.net. The site have been unavailable this week?? -Peter
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Post by: Tim W on July 26, 2001, 03:56:43 PM
You might want to have a look at this site...

http://www.geocities.com/cnektar/index.html

I recommend focussing on the content, rather than the design.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 26, 2001, 05:19:17 PM
Peter, I think there's a problem with the domain name server that Martin's site is registered on. You can still access Manband.net by connecting to the SWIG link at the left here.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 26, 2001, 09:06:00 PM
Check out www.dvdpopcorn.co.uk where the Man DVD is ?12.99 including UK delivery and a link from it leads to a complete list of all 24 titles available from Classic Pictures Entertainment, including DVD's from John Martyn, Osibisa and Steve Marriott. I've used this site before - they are very prompt -and for any order of 2 or more items, they throw in a free bag of microwave popcorn!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 10:06:22 AM
Early mornin Arse.   Can anyone recommend any decent Music DVD's?  I think the bestI have come accross so far are the Dream Theater And King Crimson in concert types, for the sheer amount of music etc on offer.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 11:47:00 AM
Thanks to Kevin Tanswell for the link to www.dvdpopcorn.co.uk where the Man DVD is ?12.99. Great site and good prices.;-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 11:48:51 AM
Must congratulate Jules again on this new bulletin board. Easy to use, and a joy to visit. Well done:-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 01:07:45 PM
:o
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 02:56:59 PM
I wanted the free microwave popcorn but Daddies one of these New Age Hippies and doesn't like microwaves,we cook in a blackened pot over an open fire!
:rolleyes:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 06:18:12 PM
I see the August issue of Record Collector has a good positive review (albeit slightly inaccurate) of the 'Many Are Called' collection in it. There's also an ad for a Bystanders CD, which is the Pye collection being re-issued under the auspices of Castle's 'Ripples' series. Still, nice cover.

If you look really closely you might also find Ron Sanchez' name mentioned, but it would spoil the fun if I tell you where....
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 07:58:26 PM
Jules- you know that's not fair. We don't see RC here for at least a couple of months after it comes out. Who's on the cover? Reports of a Brain review in Shredding Paper, a SF 'zine. Get Hips says they've got a few back from the press. Been working with a load of Montana bands this month, including Deniz Tek from Radio Birdman. They are featured in the new Mojo I hear. The Radio Birdman reissue on Sub Pop is one of the top albums on the CMJ charts. That's a college radio mag-tip sheet. This is a very big deal especially since it's a reissue comp. In the states this is really the first time this material has been avalable at all. They had one album in '77, but it dissapeared very quickly. Good time for me to be working with Deniz. Might rub off on the Brain.

oh it's my birthday too.

Rs
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 27, 2001, 11:39:29 PM
Ah. That would explain the tiny appearance of the Sanchez moniker in Record Collector then. ;-)
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Post by: Tel on July 29, 2001, 02:02:20 PM
Folks - My web site is currently getting a make over and is temporarily off line. Hopefully it should be back in a couple of weeks in time for the autumns activities. - Tel :eek:
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Post by: Tel on July 29, 2001, 09:55:32 PM
ron where can i get donovans brain cd over here in the uk or are they only avalible over there! cheers  tony:confused:
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Post by: halfamix on July 29, 2001, 11:08:08 PM
Hi All
The first 2 Donovans Brain LP's are available on CD from freakemporium.com in the UK; they also have a 7" single by the band. I have never ordered from this site but they did send me a catalogue with some absolute gems in
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 30, 2001, 01:31:39 AM
I've used the Freak Emporium quite a lot over the last couple of years, and have nothing but praise for them. Browse their online catalogue, decide what you want and then phone in your order. They advertise in MOJO and Record Collector quite often, and there's almost always something of interest in there.

My experience is that the goods arrive in a few days. Most of the Emporium's stock is pretty rare and esoteric, so phoning first to check that what you want is still available would probably be a good idea.

Buying Brains CDs online shouldn't be a problem as I think the major houses keep copies on hand. The vinyl 7" releases are much harder to find though, and I imagine they all qualify as collectors items.

If you see a Brains release on sale at a UK High Street retailer, then make sure that your next stop is Vision Express.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 30, 2001, 10:36:47 AM
I see Freakemporium has Maggie Bell - Suicide Sal. Seem to remember from an old TWC that Brian Breeze wanted to get hold of a copy of this? Wasn't he on it or something?
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 30, 2001, 02:22:41 PM
There's a Neil Young song which contains the immortal line "...somewhere north of Barstow"  Now I don't know which particular version of the Barstow clan this is meant to be north of, but I reckon we should be told.

Btw, I don't know which Neil Young song it is  :o
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 30, 2001, 05:11:38 PM
It's Trans Am
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 30, 2001, 07:22:12 PM
which donavans brain cd is the best one to get first any advice ould be great
 thanks tony
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Post by: tony on July 30, 2001, 07:23:37 PM
heres the w i missed
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Post by: ron sanchez on July 30, 2001, 07:57:33 PM
If you are having trouble finding the Brain cd, contact me and I'll fix you up. I've just got a load from Get Hip. I also have a few copies of the Man Tribute left.

Which ones the best one? That's like asking which is your favorite kid. Jud Cost reckons the new one Tiny Crustacean Light Show is the best one. Eclipse And Debris has got more jam sort of songs. Carelessly Restored Art is a psych pop album often compared to the Duke of Stratosphere.

Ron
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Post by: ron sanchez on July 30, 2001, 07:58:05 PM
If you are having trouble finding the Brain cd, contact me and I'll fix you up. I've just got a load from Get Hip. I also have a few copies of the Man Tribute left.

Which one's the best one? That's like asking which is your favorite kid. Jud Cost reckons the new one Tiny Crustacean Light Show is the best one. Eclipse And Debris has got more jam sort of songs. Carelessly Restored Art is a psych pop album often compared to the Duke of Stratosphere.

Ron
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Post by: greencakes on July 30, 2001, 08:08:11 PM
Just got longingly awaited reprint RWL. Yesss. Thanks Tim :-)
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Post by: greencakes on July 30, 2001, 08:17:12 PM
Poll : Which is your favorite Aliens track?

View Poll | Add Vote
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 31, 2001, 01:40:19 AM
Of all of Ron's kids, Tiny Crustacean Light Show would be the one I'd recommend to a new starter. I have a personal favourite in 'Electric Trains'

Follow that up with Eclipse and Debris, for the essential 'Days Playing Perky Pat' amongst others.

If the next collection includes 'All Fall Down' I'd be able to justify buying it on that song alone. Should be a single Ron.....
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 31, 2001, 03:07:52 PM
More sad news - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1466000/1466344.stm
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Post by: Allan Heron on July 31, 2001, 04:19:13 PM
I see from TWC that the new Bystanders set has got bonus tracks.  Shit, I'll have to buy it now! :eek:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on July 31, 2001, 05:42:12 PM
I know the feeling. Still, Michael's offering the CD at a reasonable price on the back of TWC, so what the heck. My order went in yesterday.

Hopefully to be accompanied by a re-issued Truckers anniversary T-shirt, which I can then proceed to stretch out of shape for a few years. Only 50 being printed in this run he says..
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 01, 2001, 03:47:16 PM
Hiya Phil!  My email isn't working. Here's that gig guide address

http://hometown.aol.com/rawpromo/rawgigguide.html

Grabbin' a dolphin, eh?  Well, I did start to wonder how many times I'd have to mention the words 'beer' and 'festival' to convince you... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Rover on August 01, 2001, 05:36:16 PM
Indeed Brian Breeze is on Suicide Sal along with a certain Jimmy Page. Mr Breeze knocks the spots off him naturally.

Back to reading the final pages of The Story Of The Potato (I kid you not)
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Post by: cumin trip on August 01, 2001, 05:41:37 PM
Does he play the tuber?
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Post by: Mike B on August 01, 2001, 07:08:02 PM
To answer my own question, If any one would like some up to date Wlesh Rock, then check out the new Super Furry Animals DVD. Its got elements of the Beatles, A beginning very reminiscent of the "Grateful Dead Movie', And even Psychedalia not that far removed from the BYstanders/Manband That we all know  and Love. C'mon SFA give the Manband a Support slot on your next tour, and give a nod and a wink to your heritage.
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on August 01, 2001, 07:53:19 PM
Mike - good to see someone else championing the Super Furry Animals - the new generation of Welsh psychedelia is in safe hands and 'Rings Around The World' is definitely a contender for 'Album of the Year'.
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Post by: Mike B on August 01, 2001, 09:18:38 PM
Absolutely Kevin, It's nice to get enthusiastic about a 'new' band for a change. It IS a fantastic album (can we use that word any more?).
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Post by: Bananagram on August 02, 2001, 12:31:13 AM
:p So Brunnygirl. Looks like we may meet again before Cardiff then? Oh no I'm from Swansea!
BGTY Bfee :cool:
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Post by: Fostz on August 02, 2001, 12:02:59 PM
They'd been bragging the new SFA album and the recent gigs so much on theyahoo indie chatboard that you could swear this was the greatest album ever made. Then it gets a mediocre review in the NME (the same issue as they give destiny’s child single of the week).
I know whose opinion I value more. That’s right, Mike’s.
Anyone else read NME lately? That's gone downhill. So has loaded and they don't draw Dennis the Menace properly anymore. It ended up I had to read the airlines own magazine.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 02, 2001, 02:30:42 PM
Jules, I'm having to scroll to see whole messages.  Is one of us putting on weight?
 
:confused:
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Post by: Tim W on August 02, 2001, 03:50:52 PM
Just as on the old board, it sulks if you put in a long string of characters without a space, either hahahaha or such like or a long URL as in this case. The table cell stretches to accommodate it. Learn to live with it... it's still way better than ArtistDirect board.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 02, 2001, 04:44:29 PM
Yes, the long word syndrome is something I haven't really addressed yet. Because this board is written in php it's something that I could dig into when I get a few spare moments. It might be possible to parse the messages and to arbitrarily slit long words into smaller chunks.

This would be a bit of a blow for all those hundreds of messages being posted with words like supercalifragalisticexpialidocious and antidisestablishmentarianism or for those lucky people living in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.

For URLs and e-mail ids I think we're probably stuck with the long strings as they are. Any attempt to split these would render them instantly meaningless. Nobody needs that.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 02, 2001, 04:45:45 PM
Oh look, someone would appear to have taken the p.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 02, 2001, 04:51:59 PM
Of course another approach would be to set your screen size to something approaching 1024x768, and have your browser window maximised, as then you'll find the vast majority of messages (and web-sites) will fit neatly onto the screen.

Ok, that's my soapbox topic for the day done with.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 02, 2001, 07:30:05 PM
A.Smith of points unknown has pointed out I've listed my e-mail address incorrectly a few messages back. try: donovansbrain@netscape.net

If you haven't check the first of the new Splaat pieces, on the Brains web site (thanks Jules) you'd better do it soon. There are songs to down load now, but they will be changing in a couple of weeks. The current unreleased song is an alternate guitar solo from Treece on the song Joey's In The Pouch. I've been digging through the GLEA vault, and turned up some things I'd forgotten about. Some of these will appear in the future. There is actually a lot more material than I expected, so the Splaat music series could go on for a while. Hesitate at your own risk.

On the other hand I've finally got Deke's new book, which is one of the funniest things I've ever read. I enjoyed it even more than Rhinos. I couldn't put it down last night, until the missus said, "TURN OFF THE FU**INK LIGHTS AND STOP LAUGHING"

Lastly I know there are a few King Crimson fans lurking around...the two newest Kollectors Klub discs are great: Mainz 1974 and Plymouth 1971 Good enough that I resubscribed to get them.

Rock On
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 02, 2001, 09:25:42 PM
So that'll be Allan Heron's fault then.  
'Tis a pity the news was so sad.  RIP JW  :-(
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 03, 2001, 10:05:56 AM
Ron - have you got the 80's Berkeley set through yet?  I've had this for about six weeks.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 03, 2001, 05:31:08 PM
......not only that but now Bert Foord's gone & popped his clogs.

Now bejasus we'll never get a decent summer....
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 04, 2001, 08:35:39 PM
Roll on cardiff 29,9,01.Starting to have the crazy MAN hee-bee-gee-bee withdrawrals.MAN- Wales finest and number one.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 04, 2001, 10:21:23 PM
Holy,Must be those crazy new crop mushrooms.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 05, 2001, 11:03:22 AM
which will be the bigger cardiff or greasy truckers LA - if big is what we want - poop hatch
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 05, 2001, 02:50:20 PM
if the same people turn up that went to the albert hall it wont matter which will be bigger
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Post by: Tim W on August 06, 2001, 04:01:11 PM
If you hadn't heard, the DVD release date has been pushed back to September 10.

A pic of the cover can be seen at the URL to your left.
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Post by: Tim W on August 06, 2001, 08:43:20 PM
He he,Man tickets at ?17 for the cardiff shindig.A mere snip for a quality night
out. See ya there.
     The witch doctor.
P/S  Hey garland i dig your tweed coat.
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Post by: tony on August 08, 2001, 06:55:54 PM
two two one two just testing
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 08, 2001, 09:59:17 PM
Its all so quiet, and no emails either.
Is anyone there, or are you all on holiday?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 08, 2001, 10:41:15 PM
Anyone going to the Transatlantic gig at the Astoria?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 09, 2001, 01:37:51 AM
you know who you are
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 09, 2001, 02:17:10 PM
Dave, I just wish that I was on holiday ! How are you ? Since the chat in the pub before the RAH I've got around to buying one Grateful Dead album - it is a live one from about 1968/69. It opens with Dark Star ( wow that narrows it down !) but it is not a particularly impressive listen. I've just cheered myself up by buying tickets for the 29 September concert in Cardiff for me and my cousin. Is anyone else planning to go to that gig ? Are Transatlantic the band with the Marillion bassist - their first album had good reviews about 18 months ago didn't it? When is the gig at the Astoria Mike ? Steph B, have you listened to Jackie Leven's new album yet; Michael H did a good review of it in August's Classic Rock, and I think it is up there with his best.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 09, 2001, 02:30:22 PM
Davies rubbishes Live/Dead controversy!!  :eek:

That should soon invite some rebukes from any Deadheads amongst us.

By the way, you're spot on - I never much took to that myself!
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Post by: halfamix on August 09, 2001, 02:32:04 PM
Hi All
I'm hoping to come to Cardiff on the 29th Sept (Can tickets be bought online?)
Arrived in the post this morning a mint copy of Dekes "Before Your Very Eyes" this is most excellant and hard as it is to believe I have never heard this LP before!! I've had the other two for years but had never seen a copy of this! Now I wonder if I can find a nice copy of "Map of India" on the net? :cool:
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Post by: halfamix on August 09, 2001, 02:36:23 PM
I still think the Deads best LP is "Terrapin Station" but I have never found anyone else who agrees with me?
:confused:
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on August 09, 2001, 03:23:20 PM
Rob: I would rate the new Jackie Leven his best yet. Recommended if you like the other albums. The single Spanish Dad has even made it to the Radio 2 play list!
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Post by: Tim W on August 09, 2001, 07:07:01 PM
Mix - the BYVE CD includes Map of India. My copy continues to be NOT for sale.
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Post by: halfamix on August 09, 2001, 07:42:26 PM
Tim
Whilst the little 5 inch silver fellows have there use. 12 inches of black (or any colour thinking of it) vinyl; still does it for me!(Ohhh Misses)Think of the original of "Be Good to Yourself at Least Once a Day" with its innoventive gatefold sleeve for a good example:cool:
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 09, 2001, 09:36:46 PM
Rob, I told you not to run before you could walk.  You clearly need a more lyrical introduction.  Try Steal Your Face from '74 or Dead Set from '80 and the acoustic Reckoning (also '80).  The studio and extended stuff may follow. ( I have an affinity with 'Touch of Grey' for obvious reasons!).  
Can't make Cardiff - I'll be in Portugal. Bad planning again, so it must be Sally's fault.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 10, 2001, 10:00:00 AM
Halfamix - I have a spare, near mint copy of 'Map of India' in gatefold sleeve. Please e-mail me if you want to do a deal. Failing that, go to www.netsounds.com, where there are currently 7 copies up for sale, including one purporting to be a 'very rare master disc plus artwork for the picture sleeve' at ?25!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 10, 2001, 01:04:52 PM
halfamix - I still don't think you're going to find anyone who agrees with you on Terrapin Station! Rob - you've got to get American Beauty. This was the second of the Dead's 'back to the roots' albums, and knocks spots off the patchy Live Dead - it's absolutely superb. And I too have an affinity with Touch of Grey.. and Out of the Dark from which it comes is recommended.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 10, 2001, 01:39:09 PM
Terrapin Station is fine, but devalued by an appalling attempt at 'Dancing in the Street.'  
American Beauty is an absolute stunner.
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 10, 2001, 02:46:25 PM
Dave, did you really expect a lawyer to be able to follow someone else's sugggestion either properly or accurately ?! Oddly enough, American Beauty is the other Dead album that I have got. I must relisten to it as I am clearly missing something. I must admit that for innovative Americana I prefer the Band's second album with King Harvest etc. Shame about Cardiff; how about Greasy Truckers 2 ?
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Post by: halfamix on August 10, 2001, 03:58:26 PM
Cumin Man !!
As I said I don't think I will ever find anyone to agree with me on "Terrapin Station" I have a large Dead collection with over 50 live tapes from 66 to early 80's but I still think TS is the best!
Mind you I think "Desire" is Dylans best album so what do I know?
Kev thanks for the offer re "Map of India" I am also a large Netsounds user
and am currently on a self impossed ban on buying singles as I've been buying to many LP's, hazards of bonging it up then visiting Netsounds are very expensive and if I start collecting singles who knows where it will lead? :cool:
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Post by: Tel on August 10, 2001, 05:43:21 PM
Any news on the little Richards?
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Post by: tony on August 10, 2001, 06:54:28 PM
i think its a boy or meybe a girl!!
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Post by: ron sandwich on August 10, 2001, 07:53:23 PM
terrapin station! steal your face! nah, two duds in my book. I think blues for allah was the last good album they made. saw em just before it came out and they were good. better than when i saw them in '68. they opened for the who in '76, but i went late both days. saw a little of johnny be goode one day. i always say it was all down hill after the first album.

Ron

ps you should have been out in bozeman last nite. you would have thought i was the drunken sailor on the rocking boat. i don't know what got into me? beer?
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Post by: Astrophobia on August 10, 2001, 08:13:19 PM
Money does,nt talk,it swears obscenity.
Who really cares? propoganda, all is phoney.   The great Bob Dylan.
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Post by: halfamix on August 10, 2001, 08:46:18 PM
"Trousers,wowsers,dungarees and jodphurs,trying to find a pair to fit.
Knickerbockers,plus-twos,easy-breezes.
Legless in a bottomless pit."
The Great Viv Stanshall
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Post by: carole on August 10, 2001, 10:44:52 PM
lift needed to cardiff gig   .
   share petrol costs.
    from kettering norhants area.
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Post by: The mellotron messiah. on August 10, 2001, 11:15:42 PM
You cant turn a dancing grizzlie into a ballerina,99% of the critics are dancing
grizzlies.
   The immortal Edgar Froese.
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Post by: Stoned Train Driver on August 10, 2001, 11:46:57 PM
"I don't care about the shape I'm in,
I can't sing, ain't pretty and my legs are thin."
The Immortal Peter Green.

"We want God to a man with a California tan."
The Immortal Deke Leonard.

"Every silver lining's got a touch of grey."
The mortal Jerry Garcia & Robert Hunter.

"The Dead have something for everyone.  All you have to do is search for it"
The intoxicated Dave Bardsley.

Nuff said...
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Post by: halfamix on August 11, 2001, 01:37:19 AM
I'm so far out I'm to far in-
Peter Hammill

A Spoonfull of Bromide helps the pulse rate go down-Vincent Crane

You can get anything you want at Alices Restaurant-Arlo Guthrie :cool:

Just played my copy of the Deads "Anthem of the Sun" now there's a interesting LP
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Post by: tony on August 11, 2001, 09:13:11 AM
titties & beer
titties & beer
titties & beer
frank zappa  a man who could really play
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on August 11, 2001, 01:39:31 PM
Why would[anyone]want to label themselves
I say,"lick my decals off baby!" I'm not
interested in making any new mustard or ketchup.I make very good mustard.
    The Captain(real deal)Beefheart,
    (aka)Don (the genius) Van vliet.
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Post by: Tel on August 12, 2001, 01:51:59 AM
According to Bob Harris site, the beeb are doing a short re-run of Whistle Test during September plus a 4 hour DVD as well.
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Post by: Tel on August 12, 2001, 07:28:36 PM
Whispering BOB rules.
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Post by: Tel on August 12, 2001, 08:02:54 PM
speak up who rules
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Post by: Tel on August 12, 2001, 09:58:08 PM
Id always thought music was too formal,
and thought"well,Ill get into this and
fix it.
       Don Van vliet.
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Post by: Tel on August 13, 2001, 10:05:18 AM
It's my birthday, everyone sing happy birthday to me.
How come none of you told me to listen to Smokey Tooth's version of I am the Walrus before this weekend? I had to find it holding up table with a wonky leg in my mate's house.
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Post by: Tel on August 13, 2001, 10:08:07 AM
Oooh, message 300, without even trying. What do I win?
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 13, 2001, 10:11:25 AM
New Old Little Feat live album released today.  From Spin Records website - A 2 CD set from 19th July 1973 Ebbetfield, Colarado. 'Late Night Truck Stop' was recorded for the radio but is a CD quality set and appears unedited. It apparently compares favorably with the classic "Aurora Backseat" bootleg from the same period, but in this case you get the full show and not only that, you also get a 20 page booklet crammed with photo's. And all for ?11.99, a steal for Feat fans. Tracks: Disc 1: 1. Apolitical Blues 2. Two Trains 3. Got No Shadow Part 1 4. The Fan 5. Texas Rose Cafe 6. Snakes On Everything 7. Cat Fever 8. Fat Man In Bathtub 9. Walkin' All Night 10.Sailin' Shoes Disc 2: 1. Dixie Chicken 2. Hamburger Midnight 3. Got No Shadow Part 2 4. On Your Way Down 5. Willin' 6. Cold,Cold,Cold

What a setlist  :D
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 13, 2001, 11:24:54 AM
Mind you, no Tripe Face Boogie  :-(
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 13, 2001, 05:23:22 PM
Currently listening to, amongst others, the 'God Gave Us Turtles' radio session.  'Twas my introduction to the Manband - and nigh on 20 years since I last heard it. Magic Moments !!
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 13, 2001, 07:51:36 PM
this week i have mostly been listening to ,  nektar:rember the future
     climax blues band:fm..plus
     grand alliance 1st album
     zappa live in new york
 and finishing of dekes rhinos winos third time ive read it
 what have you all been mostly listening and reading  this week
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Post by: halfamix on August 13, 2001, 08:13:37 PM
Mannnnn.... My turntable is still smokin from the hot tunes I been a playin this weekend....
Peter Hammill-"What Now"  (just released)
Dave Greenslade-"From the Discworld"
Alice Cooper-"Love it to Death"
Arthur Browns Kingdom Come-"Galactic Zoo Dossier"
......Nice....:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on August 13, 2001, 08:36:27 PM
OK I'll come clean, the Hammill and Greenslade were on the little five inch fellows, so the CD player was smokin as well!!
Which is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman?....;-)
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Post by: tony on August 13, 2001, 08:41:36 PM
whats the dave greenslade disc like ive got most of the others but not this one
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on August 13, 2001, 09:04:57 PM
Massive sale at HMV. 5 beefheart CDs
about 20 zappa,and a huge choice of other
artists.Sadly no man.4CDs for twenty pound.Just give my card a right royal pasting.www.hmv.co.uk.Get there quick
before it ends.Just been listening to
Tangerine dreams Rubycon,and no i havent fell asleep. Keep on puffing.
     Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on August 13, 2001, 09:21:24 PM
Half a mix.Hope you can make it to cardiff.The 3cdr keep will be there for you.If for some reason you wont be there,i will have to post them.
   Best regards CJ.
NP/ The mysterious semblance at the strand of nightmares.
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Post by: halfamix on August 14, 2001, 02:30:59 AM
Tony The Greenslade,'Discworld'CD is similar to his other solo stuff eg:"Going South" as it is mainly instrumental and very soundtrack like, imagine my surprise when Mr Time Team (Tony Robinson) hatched a cunning plan and appears on the CD doing a bit of narration!! Nice Cover with nice 'Discworld' artwork.
Colin I certainly hope to be in Cardiff, do you know if tickets can be bought online? And are there any ideas yet of a meeting place near to the Stadium?:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on August 14, 2001, 02:40:53 AM
Ahhh Colin the great "Rubycon" my first ever Tangerine Dream LP (The first of many) It takes alot to beat this LP as it is pure genius. Have you been following the arguement on the TD site guestbook about if the band play their keyboards live or if it's computers or DAT machines? Seeing as the Dream have been at the forefront of electronic music and used to build their own synths in the late 60's early 70's I think the argument is academic:cool:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on August 14, 2001, 04:22:15 PM
Hello half a mix.Here is the web address
for you or anyone else who would like to buy tickets for The enter the dragon gig
in Cardiff on 29,09,01 featuring MAN,
budgie,sassafras,racing cars and lonestar.www.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp-
events. Tickets at ?17.50 each and it all kicks off at 5.30pm.He he he a great
nights entertainment.
  Best regards   Colin.
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Post by: Colin J on August 14, 2001, 04:30:44 PM
Half a mix, On the subject of RUBYCON,it
is and always will be my favorite album.
awesome froese mellotron work franke the
sequencer king and the talent of baumann.
These were heady days indeed.I heard it as a 15 year old in 1979 and never looked back amazing stuff.I now own some 140 td cds and still follow them avidly.
As for the guestbook,who gives a hoot what they say,the majority have still got their arses firmly stuck in 1975.
They are not willing to open their minds
to the modern day TD.Anway i will leave that for the TD guestbook.Roll on the great MAN in cardiff,cant wait.
  Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: Alan Davies on August 14, 2001, 06:38:13 PM
This week I have been mostly listening to
Iceberg/Man BBC radio 1 In Concert. This turns me on as it was recorded in '73 a month before I first clapped eyes on both bands. Iceberg were excellent but Man blew them away. Terry's sheer pace, timing & power, Phil's organ (ooer Mrs) and Micky's sublime solos, what more could a man desire. Also playing Harvest by Neil Young & Led Zep III which I got for a fiver in HMV.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 14, 2001, 09:56:31 PM
HMV fivers (four for a score) produced a few gap fillers.  SRV "Soul to Soul", Byrds "Live at the Fillmore", Gary More "Blues Alive", Love "Love".  There was a shed load of Hawkwind, but they appeared to be compilations. Lots of other good stuff to fill gaps in anyone's collection.  Plenty of Zappa, but no "Hot Rats" (my missing link).  Fill your boots!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 14, 2001, 10:06:54 PM
Half a mix.The weatherspoons bar just
around the corner from the central station would be a good meeting place,
excellent selection of real ales and good
lagers at excellent prices.Get them in
early for the 5.30 start.
      colin.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 15, 2001, 01:12:28 AM
Got the Little Feat album I mentioned the other day - really goos stuff.  And to top it all, Dixie Chicken segues into an uncredited Tripe Face Boogie which makes me one happy punter.  Saw the Feat in 1976 with The Who and SAHB at Parkhead - incredible day (and each band with a key member no longer with us, unfortunately)

For those of you who haven't heard Little Feat there a bit like Tangerine Dream, but with instruments, music and songs  :p
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Post by: halfamix on August 15, 2001, 01:36:31 AM
"Feats Don't fail me Now" Your cutting statement on the great Tangerine Dream Allan had me reaching for the vinyl collection. Having played Dream Feat back to back, I see what you mean about the simalarity! Although 10 bongs in a row might have clouded my judgement!
:D:
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Post by: Rover on August 15, 2001, 09:23:36 AM
Do any recordings of The Dream exist?
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on August 15, 2001, 09:38:22 AM
I've found Allan's Little Feat 'Late Night Truck Stop' CD for sale on www.musica.co.uk for the princely sum of ?9.99, including UK delivery. Now there's no excuse for anyone not to own it!
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Post by: fostz on August 15, 2001, 10:30:27 AM
One thing we're missing here that we had on the imusic board is spammers saying "listen to my band, they're grate". So here's something for old time's sake.
I've just uploaded a couple of tracks by a new Llanelli band, artimus crisis, I think you'd probably like them. Artimus Crisis mp3
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Post by: Ian Johnson on August 15, 2001, 10:31:50 AM
This week's selection?

Still playing La Peste & Exile on Coldharbour lane(Alabama 3)
Zoot Allures & Guitar (Zappa)and (coincidently) Feats don't fail me now and the Last Record Album (Little Feat)

...and my wife says I have no taste just cos I don't like opera.....
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Post by: halfamix on August 15, 2001, 01:26:22 PM
I was very very drunk at the time but I think I've been listening to:
The Enid- Tears of the Sun
Rare Bird- Epic Forest
Amon Duul II- Yeti
Nektar- Journey to the Centre of the Eye
Deke Leonard- Before your very Eyes
.....NICE.....:cool:

A most fine selection even if I say so myself
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Post by: Rover on August 15, 2001, 01:39:36 PM
I remember seeing The Enid once. I assumed that they were having some sort of joke at the expense of their audience. Was I missing the point?
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 15, 2001, 03:19:57 PM
Trevor, I bought one Enid compilation album and hated it ! That's what I like about this board, the diversity of everyone's musical tastes - Tangerine Dream do provoke strong reactions though. I wish there were some recordings of the Dream available. Current listening: Chappo's A Stone Unturned, Man Live Bootleg 1999, Jackie Leven's new one ( keeps getting better), a Demon Anthology and Melissa Etheridge's first album ( has anyone bought the new one ?)
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Post by: cumin trip on August 15, 2001, 04:06:39 PM
This weeks choice is Strange Affair, how good Electric Fur Trapper sounds. Very Deadlike.
And on a different subject who knows what became of Andy Dunkley? And why was he MCing on all the old tours? Was he employed by United Artists or something?
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Post by: halfamix on August 15, 2001, 04:18:34 PM
Rover, when was it that you saw The Enid? I am a big Enid fan and have a large collection of their LP's,singles and CD's but I am very annoyed with Robert at the mo as he has owed me money for years now!
I think the band are finished now? But they did produce some startling sounds! Although I do realise they are not everyones 'cup of tea' :cool:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on August 15, 2001, 04:28:42 PM
He he he,Thanks for that one alan.Your
dream comment was not unexpected.Rob dav-
ies, pop into your local hmv and pick up
(force majeure) by the dream at a cheap ?5. If you dont want it i,ll take it off your hands,even though i have got it.
Rover, i have around 140 td cds including
boots so theres plenty out there,somehow
cant see you listening to them all.we all
have our favorites in life and i just love those dream guys.Enough said by me
on the subject me-thinks.How about a
meeting place for Cardiff chaps,weatherspoons would be an ideal venue?
    Best regards to you all-TD haters or
not.
          Colin
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Post by: Colin J on August 15, 2001, 04:31:46 PM
Just listening to Hawkwind,s (electric-
tepee). A superb album.
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on August 15, 2001, 05:10:45 PM
Playlist this week:

Ax Genrich: Wave Cut
Gong: Angels Egg
MAN: Back Into the Future
Flower Kings: Flower Power
Ringo Starr: Goodnight Vienna (!!)
Guru Guru: Guru Guru

Best regards
Peter
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 15, 2001, 05:42:52 PM
Good old Ringo - let's have a singsong; all together now;-

No No No No
I can't take it no more
I'm tired of waking up on the floor
No thank you please
It only makes you sneeze
And then it makes it hard to find the door  ;-)
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Post by: Rover on August 15, 2001, 06:32:16 PM
halfamix: The Enid gig must have been around 1979/80 in London. Might have seen them at a festival too. Reading?

CJ: 19 minutes late. Derailment at Clapham Junction. I was thinking of the 60s band 'The Dream' rather than the more colourful one.
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Post by: tony on August 15, 2001, 08:44:53 PM
this week ive played grand funk railroad live (at full blast in the living room and got a bollicking from the wife)
edgar broughton band oora
john martyn solid air
jim white no such place
beck mutations
and its only wednesday  so much music so little  time
ps any one heard from maurice recently
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Post by: tony on August 15, 2001, 09:53:58 PM
thinking aboutit was the bollicking for playing the music on full blast or for playing grand funk railroad!!!
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Post by: halfamix on August 15, 2001, 11:51:06 PM
Ahhh Rover you saw the best known Enid lineup,shame you didn't enjoy it but most people seem to either love or hate the band!
Peter that is a ...nice...selection of tunes (Spacey Kraut Rock Rules)+MAN of course!
Now Tony I reckon if you had played the Edgar Broughton at full volume a more favourable response would have been forthcoming? On second thoughts......?
:cool:
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on August 16, 2001, 12:33:25 AM
Rover: Were we at the same Reading Festival? I certainly saw the Enid there (must have been before 76). Their music stirred up some kind of emotion I remember, but not the kind to make me dash out and buy the record(weren't they heavily classically influenced?)
Last 5 played albums: Malcolm Morley (Aliens), Jackie Leven's latest (glad you liked it, Rob), Indigenous (Things we do), Townes van Zandt's Flyin' Shoes and Tangerine Dream (Force Majeure) - just checking if I missed something first time round. This album is certainly different than what I remember John Peel playing ad infinitum - once Tonto's Expanding Headband had done it, why do it again? However, I must admit that I do like the steam train on Track 1! Queue for Rover....
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Post by: Rover on August 16, 2001, 09:27:25 AM
A queute turn of phrase there big bro.
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Post by: halfamix on August 16, 2001, 02:37:43 PM
The first "Tonto's Expanding Headband" LP is from 1971! Tangerine Dream have been going since 1967 so if anyone did it 'first' it was TD. By the way don't bother with the second Tonto LP from 1974 it is not very good!
The Enid were very much influenced by classical music; if you listen to the first two Barclay James Harvest LP's you can hear this as Robert was musical director of the bands own orchestra and was responsable for such gems as "Dark now my Sky" and "Mocking Bird"
Most excellant :cool:
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Post by: tony on August 16, 2001, 03:52:17 PM
i think i saw the enid at the reading fest along time ago i think ted nugent,camel and rory gallagher were on the same bill but im not sure,the only thing i remember about the enid was there main man wots his name? there was also some regge bands on uroy and the mighty diamonds and i think they were bottled off . all very strange.
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Post by: Gordon Luck on August 16, 2001, 04:53:38 PM
The Enid,Rory etc. were at Reading in 1976. I've got some of it on Super 8 cine, no sound!
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Post by: halfamix on August 16, 2001, 05:06:22 PM
Just played both "Tonto's Expanding Headbands" LP's back to back and disregard what I said about the second LP its not that bad at all (Has been about 5yrs since last listen) Not as good as the classic "Zero Time" but not bad.
Buds and Bongs all day long!  :cool:
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on August 16, 2001, 05:12:02 PM
The Enid were also at Reading in 1977 along with Thin Lizzy,Hawkwind,Alex Harvey,Aerosmith,Golden Earring,Uriah Heep and all Cardiff goers take note:Racing Cars and Lone Star!!!
:-)
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 16, 2001, 08:43:34 PM
There is a poll on the Virtual Cardiff website for the best Welsh band of the 70s. Man are trailing Badfinger at the minute - even though these things probably don't matter perhaps we should all vote ?! Address for the site is www.virtualcardiff.co.uk . There is also a short plug for the Cardiff gig.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on August 16, 2001, 09:20:17 PM
He he he,impressive festival line ups chaps.Were you in cardiff on beefys 80/81
tour?I was. I WILL NEVER FORGET IT.at 17 I WAS YOUNG,A young bit of stuff asked me to dance to (big eyed beans), i said ok,it was avant-garde for a 17 year old
and gladly love.The captain is king.
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Post by: Anna on August 17, 2001, 12:32:27 AM
This weeks choons:
Alkatraz - 'DAM'
Sandy Denny - 'North Star..'
Porcupine Tree - 'Lightbulb Sun'
Nick Harper - 'Harperspace'

Radio stuff - Man, Micky and Deke on the KSAN Piledriver show, 1978.  Deke's 'An Eye for an Eye' is playing right now and I don't recall ever hearing it before.  Another Magic Moment !!
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Post by: Anna on August 17, 2001, 12:36:23 AM
I saw The Enid in the early 80's.  Only the once.
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Post by: Anna on August 17, 2001, 12:40:33 AM
Also saw Ted Nugent once.  I remember that because he wore exceedingly tight white trousers.  Almost as tight as Micky's red dungarees they were !! Goodnight.
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Post by: Denzil Throbber on August 17, 2001, 10:21:16 AM
From what I remember of Tonto's EHB, the first track (Cybernaut?) was outstanding,the rest forgetable. But it was along time ago, when I was young and could see my toes without using a mirror
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Post by: michael heatley on August 17, 2001, 12:02:37 PM
Just got the Man DVD - worth it for the bonus Martin Ace interview & acoustic sssion alone! TWC will be carrying it as merch, but email me if you can't wait for next issue!
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Post by: Tel on August 17, 2001, 04:09:47 PM
Anna - One of the guys in the office, Graham, is a Porcupine Tree fan!! We were talking about them only yesterday morning. I am going to investigate their web site over the weekend. Very Floydish he reckons - Tel
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Post by: Tel on August 17, 2001, 05:13:18 PM
It must be porcupine tree appriciation week. Me band were doing a gig with a local band, Misnomer, when their lead singer noticed our lead singer was wearing a porcupine tree t-shirt. Apparently he supported both them and Tangerine dream back in the old days (80s).
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Post by: halfamix on August 17, 2001, 06:08:59 PM
The Porcupine Tree play Bristol where I live,alot,must have seen them half a dozen times now. Well worth checking out (very Floydy like) All albums are excellant but I highly recommend "Signify"
:cool:
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on August 17, 2001, 07:13:09 PM
Halfamix - I was at the Porcupine Tree show at the Trinity Hall in Bristol last year. Most excellent! I have the gig on CD if you're interested.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on August 17, 2001, 08:23:42 PM
How are you all?This is my playlist for the weekend.
Frank zappa-sleep dirt.
Captain beefheart-bat chain puller.
Man-live at the star club.
Tangerine dream- live albert hall 1975.
Tom waits-sword fish trombone.
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Post by: tony on August 17, 2001, 09:17:21 PM
i lke doing this its great to see what every one is playing heres my weekend p
play list
santana dance of the rainbow serpents
jimi hendrix blues
zappa apostrophe(at least twice)
david johansen and the harry smiths
robin trower this was now 74-98(very loud!!)
and late on saturday night when the beer monster has got me ,
lou reed  rock n roll animal
now thats what i call music  have a great weekend every one cheers  tony
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Post by: halfamix on August 18, 2001, 12:08:59 AM
Hi Kevin
Yes I was at that gig in Bristol, Shame I didn't know you; two Man fans in the same venue!!
Turntable has been a smokin with
Soft Machine-"Third"
E.L.P-"Pictures at an Exhibition"
Neutrons-"Tales from the Blue Cocoons"
Flying Saucer Attack-"Further"
Steve Hillage-"Green"

MMhhh....Nice....:cool:
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Post by: spongehead on August 18, 2001, 12:46:35 AM
Add cider and bongs to:
Neutrons-tales...cocoons
Man-rhinos
Morley-aliens
Caravan-grey+pink
Fagen-kamakiriad
playlist:cool:
ps what about something in iridescent for the board colour? :D
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Post by: Squawker on August 18, 2001, 10:43:19 PM
Budgie (headlining of course!) will blow Man off stage. Seriously though I am looking forward to seeing both bands! Roll on the 29th.

Cheers Man Fans
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on August 19, 2001, 12:05:45 AM
Today, MAN appeared on the front page of the local paper here in Malvik, Norway.
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on August 19, 2001, 12:08:39 AM
Why? Well, I was to be interviewed about those infamous blue potatoes, when the idea struck me - MAN in the local paper, slipped on the T-shirt and it even hit the front page.
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Post by: halfamix on August 19, 2001, 01:20:14 AM
Man eats Budgie.....Shock,Horror !!!
:p
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 19, 2001, 01:27:37 AM
Where, pray, was the T-shirt when you slipped on it? And how perchance did this happen to strike the estimable Malvik Mail?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 19, 2001, 01:38:43 AM
Did somebody suggest iridescent? :confused:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 19, 2001, 10:22:03 AM
Excellent (united artists) promo photo
of Deke on ebay.The fillies will be
drooling over this one.Filed under Deke
leonard.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 19, 2001, 10:42:30 AM
And also a rather nice Man UA promo photo of the Williams/Jones/Leonard/Morley/Whaley line-up from the same seller on www.ebay.com  A 'snip' to buy now at $9.
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Post by: Tim W on August 19, 2001, 01:35:28 PM
Review of the Man Live DVD at the URL to your left.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 19, 2001, 05:26:57 PM
:D I've just learned that Bob and Liza Richards are now the proud (and devoted) parents of Eva Elizabeth Richards. Mother and baby are doing very well. Father is having palpitations.

A round of applause is due methinks.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 19, 2001, 10:32:56 PM
Congratulations to Bob and Liza.  Have we gone pink in honour of the arrival of Eva Elizabeth?  If so I won't complain...(but if not, I might!)

(Tel - Your tape is on its way.  Sorry about the delay)
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Post by: Tel on August 20, 2001, 08:31:20 AM
And that round of applause - should it go - clap...clap...clap...clap.clap.clap..clapclapclap..clap..........clap...clap :-)

Congrats to Bob and Liza welcome to the Madhouse to Eva. Right can we do away with the pink now - it's even worse than the Lime Green of our previous incarnation!!!
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Post by: Tel on August 20, 2001, 10:20:56 AM
This weekend I was only listening to a new cd I bought, King Rolf. Rolf Harris playing such songs as I feel good (James Brown), Roadhouse Blues, Walk on the wild side, etc.
All played to the accompaniment of wobble board, didgeridoos and heavy breathing.
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Post by: Tel on August 20, 2001, 10:27:45 AM
You sad man, Fostz  :o
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Post by: Tel on August 20, 2001, 12:12:09 PM
I think I might do Archer's pad in this shade when he succumbs to the inevitable and shares my domain.......
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Post by: Ian Johnson on August 20, 2001, 12:18:23 PM
This weekend I have mostly been playing Fun Lovin Criminals and Aja, though I did manage a quick splurge of Helps along the way

.....and the rest of the time I spent getting verr verr drunk in a marquee.....several black velvets, a dozen or more champagne and ports, half a barrel of IPA, a couple of spliffs, naked by 2 am and in bed by 5.30 am sunday morning (from a 12.30 Sat lunchtime start)

..not arf bad for an ageing old drunk...though its a good job 'er indoors didn't go.

I might have enjoyed myself
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 20, 2001, 12:19:28 PM
There ya go. Seems like everyone'd had enough of the pink and purple. ;-)
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Post by: Louis Cipher on August 20, 2001, 12:20:38 PM
...damn....we've gone all grey again

...anyone know the RAL number for that cerise number we just had? I had me colour card out and was about to order the paint for Jeffs room when it all went normal again....
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 20, 2001, 02:52:12 PM
Congratulations to Bob and Liza, fantastic news. Welcome back EW. Thanks for the review of the DVD Tim, I have placed my order with TWC so all I need now is a DVD player - any suggestions on good value (i.e. cheap) DVD players ? Stephen B, I hope a copy of the photo will be published on the Archive soon ?
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Post by: halfamix on August 20, 2001, 04:21:55 PM
My nose is sore and lungs hurt!!:cool:
A good weekend was had; but in amongst the debauchery I did get a chance to listen to
Spirit-"Made in Germany"
Intergalactic Touring Band-same
Peter Hammill-"The Future Now"
National Health-"Of Queues and Cures"
.......Nice.....:cool: :cool:

Ian so it was you I saw running naked through Bristol city centre at 3 in the morning with a traffic cone on your head?
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 20, 2001, 04:55:45 PM
Rob, I'd suggest the Wharfdale 750 model that is being sold by (I kid you not) Tesco.  It's very cheap, has a good picture and has a remote-based Region 1 hack readily available.
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Post by: Tim W on August 20, 2001, 05:23:08 PM
...of for less than 50 quid get a DVD drive for your PC.
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Post by: tony on August 20, 2001, 09:09:42 PM
after last weekend im gonna chill out to
cowboy junkies 200more miles
van morrison any album
eliza carthy red rice
the grateful dead ladies and gentleman(all four discs)
after that ill be ready for the weekend again!!!
cheers tony
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Post by: tony on August 20, 2001, 09:13:21 PM
ps i dont like the purple bit .....but i really love the pink.!!!!
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Post by: spongehead on August 21, 2001, 01:19:49 AM
who won the vitual cardiff band poll? I only voted twice before it was pulled. :D
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 21, 2001, 11:38:47 AM
For the John Martyn fans out there (and I know there's a few), there's a couple of good Voiceprint releases of live gigs in 1986. One at a brewery in Kendal is particularly recommended.  They are both acoustic sets with Danny Thompson on bass - the Kendal set has percussion as well.  Also recommended from the Evangeline label is an album of Gene Clark demos recorded between 1983/1990. All wonderful, haunting songs from a vastly underrated songwriter.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on August 21, 2001, 05:12:43 PM
It is interesting to read the playlists that are being posted - I have decided to play every single CD once, which is taking an enormous amount of time considering I only have a couple of hundred to get through. I was inspired by the thought that I seem to play the same 20 or so a lot of the time. So last night it was:

Eno - Taking tiger mountain (by strategy)
Laurie Anderson - Home of the brave

The first of these is a case in point - it hasn't been played for about five years. I put it on and loved it. I am saving the Man ones till the end, just like I used to with my meals as a boy - always saved the sausages until the end :D did anyone else do that?

On another point Rob how did you get on with Frank Zappa?
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on August 22, 2001, 08:37:43 AM
Mike - personally I always saved Bananas until the end!
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Post by: Paul Reilly on August 22, 2001, 12:11:28 PM
Have been on holiday for 2 weeks and just caught up with the message board. I particulaly like the lists of what people are listening to.

While on holiday I listened to
Goldfrapp
Starsailor
Man BGTY
Man Live Bootleg1999
Man Live in  london
Placebo, without you
Muse, Downloads from Audio Galaxy
Ten Years after, SHHH
Mr F. Zappa, Zoot Allures
Catatonia, Int Velvet,
Mixed mini discs featuring, Motorhead, Floyd, PJ Harvey, Stereophonics, Faithless plus others.

Most played, Starsailor and BGTY( still my fav album of all time).
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Post by: Paul Reilly on August 22, 2001, 12:17:54 PM
Further to Mike's point about Eno, a couple of months ago I bought the soundtrack album of VElvet Goldmine, which features a band fronted by Thom York doing covers of Roxy and Eno tunes, with Baby's on Fire being a very unusual cover. I wouldn't recommend buying the album, but if you can get hold of a copy to listen to it's worthwile.

Also listened to on holiday, because they played it every day for the Kids Entertainment Hour was The Court of King Caracticus by BLOODY Rolf BLEEDING Harris, you will be pleased to know I have issued a Fatwa.
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 22, 2001, 02:51:04 PM
Mike, regarding Zappa the honest answer is not at all. I have not got around to buying any of the albums as there has always been something else in Tower Records, or wherever, that has got in  the way. I am on holiday as from tomorrow though, so I hope to
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Post by: Rob Davies on August 22, 2001, 02:57:11 PM
... finish a message before posting it. What I meant to say was look for some Zappa next week as well as some other stuff. Given the quality of Roger Chapman's solo catalogue I am going to start picking up some Family albums, as I only have a Best Of at the moment. Also, in advance of Cardiff I shall be looking out for some live Budgie albums. Does anyone know if any Lone Star ( Tonka Chapman's band) albums are available on CD - wasn't there a review of a best of in one of the early editions of TWC ?
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Post by: ron sanchez on August 22, 2001, 07:29:36 PM
Rob- that is back to front, moving from Chappo's solo albums to Family. I have a few of Rog's solos, but it's the Family catalog and even the Streetwalkers that I listen to. The usual line is that the first Family album, Doll's House is the best, but I do like them all. The recent reissue of Dolls and the second lp is a prefect package. it's got the rare first single, loads of pics and notes. Bandstand and Fearless are very powerful works. As for the 'walkers, the first couple and the BBC are great. There is an album called Streetwalkers, which is the first thing they did after Family. This is a minor masterpiece. I picked up a copy in a Santa Cruz thrift shop for 25 cents this year.I got to see both Family and Streetwalkers. A rare treat for an American.

RS
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 22, 2001, 11:28:26 PM
Rob - Nicely timed for your return from holiday is an appearance by the said Roger Chapman and the Shortlist at The Worcester Park Club on Sunday 23rd September.  Its only down the road from you so have no excuse really!
Sadly I shall be on holiday then (which means I also miss Otis Grand and the Cardiff extravaganza).  Have a good time.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on August 23, 2001, 10:12:07 AM
I remember John Peel playing the Streetwalkers first album and have been on the lookout for it on CD. As far as I am aware it is not available in this country, but I remember loving it at the time. I find that availability of stuff from that era is still growing - another favourite of mine from the end of the 70's was Alvin Lee's "In Flight", again which I got into from John Peel. I have noticed that this has just been made available on CD. Ah, so many CD's, so little money.
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Post by: Fostza on August 23, 2001, 10:43:45 AM
On the subject of Zappa. I don't know how it started but there's been a surge of new Zappa fans in town. The last two local bands I've been to see have all played Bobby Brown goes down as did some teenager at our pub's acoustic night, Jazz Pig's had a new tattoo of Zappa on his forearm and I found this yahoo club for Welsh Zappa fans. Whatever next Tenpole Tudor playing at subterraneans.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 23, 2001, 12:01:09 PM
It's Family Entertainment and Fearless for me on the Family front with Anyway and It's Only A Movie taking up the rear.  Doll's House is great but it always seemed to be a different album from the rest, being as it's much more studio-reliant.  Shame about the current unavailability of the Streetwalkers stuff - rereleases of this would (rather like Bobby Brown) go down just dandy.
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Post by: halfamix on August 23, 2001, 04:41:21 PM
Frank Zappa surely a true genius if there ever was one;I saw Zappa in Hammersmith odeon in 1984 on the "Them or Us" Tour and it was something I never will forget.:cool:
Another classic by Roger Chapman is his vocals on the track "Shadow on the Wall" from the Mike Oldfield LP "Crises"
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 23, 2001, 05:23:04 PM
397 messages in two months.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 23, 2001, 05:23:59 PM
398 in 9 weeks.  That's over 40 a week
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 23, 2001, 05:24:58 PM
399 in 57 days.  Exacty 7 a day
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 23, 2001, 05:25:35 PM
That'll be 400 then.  Well done young Webmaster
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 23, 2001, 06:36:41 PM
This week I ar been mostly listening to Reef.
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Post by: Louis Cipher on August 23, 2001, 06:41:12 PM
Can you imagine the excitement when we get close to post number 7171551?

....trouble is that'll be about 9th November,in the year 4807.

I can hardly wait....
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Post by: michael heatley on August 23, 2001, 07:08:39 PM
We have Man Live DVDs in - a few weeks before release. ?15.99 (the recommended retail, I'm assured) inc P&P. You may get em cheaper but not quicker. End of commercial.
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Post by: tony on August 23, 2001, 07:20:28 PM
you know it makes sense michael, get one off to me today  thanks tony
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Post by: Alan Davies on August 23, 2001, 08:06:17 PM
On the Family front, I'd say Bandstand is probably the strongest studio cut with Burlesque, Glove and Top of The Hill absolutely outstanding. There is a BBC live CD available, which includes cracking versions of the above + Weavers Answer and In My Own Time, a couple of bonus tracks and some shitty sampled applause. Some of the tracks (like the Man/Iceberg live CD are from different gigs and lineups) but I'd strongly recommend the CD.
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Post by: Fostz on August 24, 2001, 10:15:34 AM
Unfortunately I won't be able to make it to post number 7171551 as acording to the death clock I will die of cancer on Nov 9 2034 at the age of 60. Bummer.
So what's the crack with this legends of Welsh rock; re-enter the dragon thing then?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 24, 2001, 10:57:10 AM
Fostz, the Re-enter The Dragon dealie is the Legends Of Welsh Rock gig at the CIA on September 29th. I was sent a whole bundle of blurb about it yesterday, but didn't get time to load said blurb up into the 'In Concert' entry on the Archive last night. I should get round to it over the weekend though. The line-up's pretty good. Budgie are headlining for some reason, but Man, Racing Cars, Sassafras, and Kimla Taz will ensure they earn their money. The blurb is interesting stuff, giving a brief (and in the case of Man, accurate) biog of each of the artists performing.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 24, 2001, 03:55:09 PM
I've just taken the death test and apparently I've got until May 25th 2038. Will the Undrugged album be out by then?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 24, 2001, 05:52:56 PM
and if you were wondering about the other tests. I'm a 46% bastard, 14% stressed, 49% pure, 79% intellegent, 42% gay, my arse got 62%, I have the personality of a businessman and I'll be a millionare at age 43. Isn't great when your manager takes the afternoon off?
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Post by: halfamix on August 24, 2001, 06:12:07 PM
You've all gone and lost me somewhere down the line (not difficult) what are these death tests and other tests you're going on about?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 24, 2001, 06:44:10 PM
halfamix: just follow the spark link in Fostz posts. Speaking as an 'accountant' personality type, I don't know whether to laugh or cry (my way to the bank). :rolleyes:

Paul: 'Undrugged' by Christmas this year I hear. It's all recorded now and final mixing should be done around mid-September. :cool:
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Post by: halfamix on August 24, 2001, 10:26:23 PM
Thanks Jules
My God it tells me I'm dead already,have been for ten years!!
Looking forward to Cardiff.What are Budgie doing headlining? I think an error has been made,who's going to come and see them? Joking apart I saw Budgie in the Granary, Bristol in the 80's and they're not bad live.
:cool:
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Post by: Astrophobia on August 24, 2001, 11:14:44 PM
Hi half-a-mix.The great music critic
Lester bangs said at a Tangerine dream concert in 1974,it was so good i thought i saw GOD.Need i say more. The avant-gardes finest.
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on August 25, 2001, 12:26:19 AM
The line-up of this year's Hell Festival just down the road from here includes a big tribute to Tony Ashton, who died earlier in the year. Apart from Colin Hodgkinson who first impressed me when I saw Back Door back in 1973, who else of this lot is worth seeing?:  The Jeff Healey Band ;Procol Harum ;Magic Slim &
The Teardrops ;Sarah-Jane Morris ;Ana Popovic ;Silje Nergaard ;Sheila Wilcoxson ;Rick Derringer ;Bj?rn Berge ;Steinar Albrigtsen ;Micky Moody ;Colin Hodgkinson ;Miller Anderson;Pete York ;Zoot Money ;Bernie Marsden ;Sven Zetterberg; Steve James
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on August 25, 2001, 12:29:33 AM
I'll be in San Francisco for a few days the week after next. Anything I should see or do?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 25, 2001, 12:58:31 AM
Well, you could always take a few friends and try and recreate the cover for Doing A Moonlight.

You should also make every effort to visit Titch's bar (Dylan's) in the Mission District. Wearing a Manband T-shirt (I imagine you'll have a blue one about the house somewhere) should see you 'right.
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Post by: halfamix on August 25, 2001, 01:41:45 AM
Astro Man I knew you couldn't keep a good Tangerine Dream fan down! As I read your posting "Thief" (part of the HMV 4 for ?20 offer) is spinning in the CD player. On the subject of God I saw him once when playing a Black Sabbath record at 78RPM after injesting some of The Black Mountains famous Liberty Caps:cool:
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Post by: Rover on August 25, 2001, 10:00:51 AM
Budgie should be high up in the pecking order.
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Post by: Rover on August 25, 2001, 10:01:48 AM
Stevil. I hear the SF steam rooms are a popular tourist pastime.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 25, 2001, 11:42:33 AM
Just been watching the Man DVD courtesy of Michael H's excellent offices.

Very, very impressed - the sound and vision are both top notch, with sound in particular with more bottom and clarity than was evident on the original video.

Martins session is most enjoyable as well - an album of accoustic songs would be most welcome, Mr Ace!!

The pedants amongst us will notice a couple of errors in the discography and the credits but this really does not take anything away from the excellence of the package.  Superb job!
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 27, 2001, 08:51:12 AM
Steve!

A fine line-up for the Hell!
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 28, 2001, 11:25:58 AM
Jules said,"'Undrugged' by Christmas this year I hear. It's all recorded now and final mixing should be done around mid-September."

Well thats my christmas presents taken care of. New cd, New dvd, new book(rhino's).
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 28, 2001, 11:28:44 AM
This weekend I was mainly listening to Blur (13) and Starsailor, but spent most time catching up on Sci-fi programms on video (trek,farscape,7 days, Buffy.
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Post by: Ian Johnson on August 28, 2001, 11:32:26 AM
I'm proud to announce that according to the death test I shall shuffle off this mortal coil at the ripe old age of 82 on Sept 2041, with only a 5% chance it will be from auto-fellatio.

That gives me plenty of time to finish this crossword then....
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Post by: Louis Cipher on August 28, 2001, 11:37:11 AM
You can't rely on these damn tests.....IJJ, I'd get the dictionary out right now, cos I've got you booked in for a week next Thursday. Fostz - by my records, you've got til November the 12th...at least the test got the year right....Paul...you're not on my list. Were you ever a boy scout?
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 28, 2001, 12:51:16 PM
I see that Michael Atherton's retiring from first class cricket at the end of the current season.  But as he's English, he's never played any first class cricket....:p
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 28, 2001, 01:11:16 PM
No Louis, I was never a boy scout, but I was a sheep worrier.
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 28, 2001, 02:09:47 PM
Mr Louis Cipher,my boss Lord Krishna has informed me of your meddling in the matter of my subjects reincarnation dates,be warned that if these misdemeanours continue your human form will be terminated for a more appropriate
one:Let me see Ganesh already has the elephants head and Hanuman is in the form of a monkey!!
:cool:
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Post by: Louis Cipher on August 28, 2001, 05:17:03 PM
......Ommmmm.....
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Post by: Louis Cipher on August 28, 2001, 05:21:08 PM
....anyway, human form be bolloxed...have you tried wearing a baseball cap with these horns? and try tucking this feckin tail into a pair of Levi's without looking conspicious. And as for trainers....not even high and bleedin mighty do a decent pair of Nikes to fit size fifteen cloven hooves.....

Anyway, this week I have been mostly listening to Tom Waits (Raindogs), Reef (Getaway) some Neutrons and a little Rhino's....
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Post by: Worried sheep on August 28, 2001, 05:23:16 PM
....baah....bumhug
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Post by: Pathetic Attempt At Humour on August 28, 2001, 05:54:37 PM
Tom Waits for no one
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Post by: Shiva on August 28, 2001, 07:56:29 PM
Horns my arse! Try having four arms and being coloured blue. :-)

Transendentally listening to
Death Walks Behind You-Atomic Rooster
Black Sabbath-Black Sabbath
Psychic TV-Dreams Less Sweet
and lastly halfamix's CD which is far to mellow for a chillum smoking deity like myself!:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on August 28, 2001, 08:44:02 PM
Hare Krishna to you Lord Shiva
So the S.I.W CD is to mellow for yourself! Thats what happens when you've been listening to George Harrison all the time!
:-)
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Post by: tony on August 28, 2001, 09:55:55 PM
last weekend we drank mostly holstein export and played neil young & crazy horse weld, quick silver happy trails
frank zappa live in new york and then i passed out. it was a good weekend , we plan to do it again this weekend first watch england beat germany in the footy drink more holstein and play more zappa,ahhh perfik!!!!
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Post by: spongehead on August 29, 2001, 01:32:40 AM
Poll : what colour would you like to see the Manboard?

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Post by: Tao Anye on August 29, 2001, 02:57:51 AM
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Post by: numbahflee on August 29, 2001, 10:08:16 AM
can it be smoked
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Post by: Cheech on August 29, 2001, 03:05:18 PM
You get a Goddam job before sundown or we're shipping you off to Military School with the Finklestein shit kid.
Son of a Bitch ;-)
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Post by: Gerry Mander on August 29, 2001, 03:06:54 PM
This Gough chap seems to have this board set up properly as you can't vote twice from the same IP address. Oh well, I'll just have to spend the afternoon loggin onto and off my office network to give me a different IP address each time ;-)
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Post by: Fostz on August 29, 2001, 04:51:42 PM
I hadn't smoked rollies for ages so I couldn't remember what to ask for at the Apu's. So my mate said just ask for a small golden vagina. It was such a funny line that I couldn't get it out of my head and did in fact end up asking for a small golden vagina. Oh, how we laughed.
:cool:
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Post by: numbahflee on August 29, 2001, 05:28:55 PM
can it be smoked.....salmon!!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 29, 2001, 06:03:15 PM
What is the difference between Deep Sea Blue and Sky Blue, or are they both blue and it just depends which way you are facing?  
Oh, and so far I have voted four times - just to see what the colours look like.
Personally I'd prefer it if you change it every now and then just to provoke a reaction.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on August 29, 2001, 06:03:36 PM
Malcom Morley's 'Aliens' now has an entry in the Archive discography (under offshoots). The latest Splaat has been loaded on the Brains site, with five more MP3's to download, including a couple of excerpts from Days Playing Perky Pat (a personal favourite).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 29, 2001, 06:11:53 PM
Just to clarify - The poll colours are the same, I only loaded a small number of differently coloured bars. I suppose I could create a few more and make them available, but then again, I could just go and make a cup of coffee instead. Mmmmm....doughnuts.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 29, 2001, 10:01:05 PM
TGC: Excellent review of Aliens. "I've ice and gold and fire inside my veins, I've got visions of the blue." Me,too...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on August 30, 2001, 02:04:44 AM
agro? :rolleyes:
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Post by: Allan Heron on August 31, 2001, 12:03:47 PM
It's Friday and you're probably all fed up playing that Scalextric game that was doing the rounds some time ago.

You could always try 3D table tennis!
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Post by: Rover on August 31, 2001, 02:29:40 PM
Enjoyable game Allan. Almost makes me want to brush the dust off my butterfly rubbers.
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Post by: Fostz on August 31, 2001, 02:35:46 PM
I do still enoy the odd game of scaletrix but I've also been recomended badger racing http://www.badgerracing.co.uk it's got badgers.
Does nobody partake of the traditional friday Arse anymore?
And anyone in West Wales go and see the lovers of alginoil gig in kavanaghs, Llanelli tonight. Tell them I sent you.
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Post by: Father Jack Hackett on August 31, 2001, 05:13:10 PM
Arse...drink...feck....arse....girls
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Post by: tony on September 01, 2001, 09:52:16 PM
its hell having a german wife at the moment but i dont care hee  haha five one ,what a result think im gonna play shut up and play yer guitar,very loud and have afew more holsteins ahh prfikk
have a great weekend everone cheers   tony.
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Post by: tony on September 02, 2001, 01:31:10 PM
what a perfik sunday, headache gone, just played john martyns anthology and now playin little feat late night truck stop,what a corker of a cd,
only a few weeks to cardiff still cant understand why budgie are headlining?
anyone know any b&bs in th area ?
cheers  tony.
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Post by: Colin jouxson. on September 02, 2001, 09:29:15 PM
Hello Fostz.
Been in tenby all week,if i had known i
would have done a slimy trip to the llan.
Could have done with some entertainment,nowt down here,only a superb record shop.
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Post by: Fostz on September 03, 2001, 10:21:36 AM
The problem with the Lovers gig was they're starting to become what they were parodying.
Fair enough, they come onto the stage to a backing tape of Wagner and they had the tight leopard skin trousers, the big hair and the flying v's and on cue the mic cut out as soon as the singer tried to sing the first line.
The problem was I heard after the gig that they'd kicked Chesty LeRue out of the band for not taking it seriously. And it can't be coincidence that they all had Man O' War t-shirts on after the gig, they couldn't have found them all in Bernado's.
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Post by: Edgar Froese on September 03, 2001, 04:51:04 PM
Hello friends

I see that there are some Tangerine Dream fans that contribute to this board. I must confess that I have had no control over any of the albums that have come out.  The record company has taken some tapes of my washing machine which I made to let an engineer hear its faults and Virgin put this out.  Phadrea was the noise the spinner made as it malfunctioned.

I'm now planning a box set based on the different settings on my fridge freezer - would this be of interest to you guys?

Lots of love,

Edgar F
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Post by: Mr Clean on September 03, 2001, 06:29:55 PM
Dear Edgar,

How marvellous it was to discover that your own musical masterpieces owe allegiance to that legend of the laundry room - the washing machine.

Some of my earliest and fondest musical memories are of Saturday afternoons round the launderette with me mam, grooving to the syncopated rhythms of the massed banks of MasterWashers and Industrial Cleaning Machines products. It would seem that such a background may also have inspired you to the giddy heights of, the giddy heights of.... May also have inspired you.

Over the years I discovered that the less spectacular tones of the average home Indesit and Hoover machines never quite hit the mark (although that would of course have been consistent with many 'drum' players), and that the Electrolux and late lamented Bendix genres were also less than satisfactory substitutes for a good old fashioned industrial strength spin cycle.

I must assume therefore that your own home instruments were heavily modified to produce such outstanding sounds. Clearly such modifications can only be described as works of genius.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with further details of your approach to loading patterns (separation of dark and light being of crucial importance I believe), powder and liquid detergent selections, spin speed management, deployment of foreign objects and no doubt a multitude of other factors that have combined to create that distinctive 'TD' sound.
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Post by: a scientist on September 03, 2001, 06:54:31 PM
Do your brightest woollens 'Phaedra' in the wash?

Does your 'Cyclone' lack 'Underwater Sunlight'?

After the 'Turn Of Tides' is your underwear still 'Near Dark'?

Then you need new improved "FROESE", with added whitening and brightening agents, polyhydrasoil lipamides, aquaspheres and all those other frightening little made up scientific sounding miracle words that advertisers are so fond of. But don't worry, it's kind to dancing dolphins too.
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 03, 2001, 08:42:51 PM
First day back after a week's holiday; not a happy day. Still, excellent news that Chappo is at the WPC on 23 Sept - thanks for the info Dave. Alan, are you going to Cardiff for the 29 Sept gig, or any of the pre-Christmas internationals ? Who else is on for the Cardiff gig ?

Regarding the DVD does anyone know why the full set that they played has not been included, and does DVD technology allow the editing out of the fella who spends what seems like the entire gig on his mate's shoulders just front of the stage ?!

Steph, if you pick this up make sure you go to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art - it is worth going just for the photography collection. Also, book a trip to Alcatraz ( I think you have to reserve a ticket a day in advance ) and visit Coit Tower for the views.

I have not listened to much music whilst on holiday and have not yet got around to buying those Family albums, but the Bystanders and QMS CDs have arrived from TWC so they are next on the playlist.
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Post by: tony on September 03, 2001, 10:12:44 PM
first of all homer simpsons kids taking the mick out grand funk railroad and now bart simpson making the church congragation sing a hymn version of iron butterflys in agadda da vida makes me feel old ....big sigh!
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Post by: halfamix on September 03, 2001, 11:44:14 PM
Hi Edgar
I wonder if you remember the night on the floating harbour in Bristol when before your gig we smoked many a pipe and had a right old laugh?
I still think your best album is "Bandages" but "Sing Brother Sing" and "Wasa Wasa" are also excellant.......
Oh no I thought it said Broughton!
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 04, 2001, 12:42:55 AM
It's ok Tony, your second childhood beckons
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 04, 2001, 11:37:06 AM
I'm afraid the offending shoulder hoisted Manfan appears in even greater clarity than ever before!!  You will be able to recognise should you bump into him at a Man gig - or rather, bump into the person whose shoulder he is sitting on.

Don't know that the other footage will still exist.  Would be nice to have it if it did though.

This week's recommendation is Nick Lowe's The Convincer.  No washing machines or fridge freezers on evidence there!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 04, 2001, 12:52:42 PM
You bast***s,you forgot Edgars battery
operated toothbrush.Your electronic
knowledge amazes me.Oh go on,F**k off
and play with your bontempis.(Experts).
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 04, 2001, 01:04:40 PM
Here here Edgar,Some of the people at this board think that an oberheim is a german with short trousers,and a prophet is something you get from a win on the horses.As you say,(Experts).Washing machines my arse,its a shame they wouldnt
wash their big fuc***g egos out in them.
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Post by: Rover on September 04, 2001, 01:49:31 PM
Gordon: another 600 refreshes and it's yours!
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on September 04, 2001, 05:28:03 PM
Well well well,It seems the scarlet pimpernel dream hater has returned.Just come home from work to read another load of complete gibberish bolux about TD.Well
i aint gonna rise to your bait,i think klaus and edgar have summed it up nicely.
"Go play with your bontempis"
now do i like that.He he he he he.
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Post by: Alan Parsons and my Projects on September 04, 2001, 05:52:59 PM
It has been bought to my attention that a disser of the mighty Tangerine Dream is loose on this Bulletin Board. Get a life, TD are the masters of electronic music inventing and building some of their first synths in the late 60's and still releasing some ground breaking LP's. Not like most of the computer based,DAT and MIDI running pretenders who aspire to play so called 'Kraut' rock nowdays.
:cool:
There is nothing like a listen to TD and MAN LP's; which is where I get all my inspiration for various projects
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 04, 2001, 05:58:33 PM
You must use very heavy vinyl if the records are ground-breaking.  Can't you just hold onto them a little bit tighter!
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 04, 2001, 06:45:32 PM
This is getting TDious.
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Post by: halfamix on September 04, 2001, 09:58:57 PM
At least Tangerine Dream are better and more popular than their countrymans football team.
:p
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Post by: Ian Johnson on September 05, 2001, 11:58:06 AM
Can I just say as my contribution to the great TD debate, that at the sprightly age of 42 I have never knowingly listened to or heard a TD album, and therefore any outbursts of a vitriolic nature on my part must remain limited to Phil Collins, Macca, and that other twat Sir Riff Clitoris.

I do,however, like like Soft Machine. Does that make me a bad person?
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Post by: Ian Johnson on September 05, 2001, 12:00:32 PM
PS I also bought that Leuitenant Pidgeon single Mouldy old Dough  once.

Does that mean I have a criminal record?
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Post by: Alan Davies on September 05, 2001, 02:50:28 PM
Hi Rob, I'm planning to get to the Cardiff gig and the Wales v Australia game, but both depend on tying in a visit to my Dad either before or after. (Nothing booked as yet.) I hope to stay over in Cardiff on the 29th, any ideas on a suitable B&B ?
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Post by: halfamix on September 05, 2001, 03:28:13 PM
Ian
I also like soft machine and in the recent HMV (4 CD's for ?20) Sale got hold of "Third" and "Four" and "Five"
(The band didn't go for snappy LP titles, did they?)
So if liking Soft Machine makes you a bad person I'm in there with you!
:cool:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on September 05, 2001, 06:34:33 PM
This is my last comment on the subject.
On the 8th june 1986 Tangerine dream played for a crowd of 60,000 people in
alburquerque,new mexico U.S.A, not 93 people at greasy maggies cafe bar in slough.No doubt youll say they are all oddball criminals.I think not.A big up
yours dissers.
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 05, 2001, 07:44:14 PM
Excellent news Alan. If I remember correctly Rob Woolfe, Neil Fore ( has anyone heard recently from our Manchester contingent ?) and I stayed in the Courtfield Hotel on Cathedral Road in April 2000 for the Endangered Species showcase gig at the Coal Exchange. Tel,  Allan, Sean and Derek Biggerstaff were staying in another guest house on Cathedral Road but I can't recall the name of it. The Courtfield was fine and reasonably priced - the number is 029 2022 7701.
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Post by: halfamix on September 05, 2001, 08:18:54 PM
Right On Solid and Gone
I agree with you Colin
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Post by: tony on September 05, 2001, 08:55:16 PM
halfamix have you got the glasonbury fayre lp because i think one side has got edgar brouhgton on it also i got a private tape off edgar at one of his gigs with superchip one one side and outtakes and unrealesed stuff on the other side if you want a copy give me a email cheers tony
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Post by: Annagram on September 05, 2001, 09:00:34 PM
Michael Jones  =  cajole his men
                       (to)
Deke Leonard   =  do reel naked
                       (at a)  
Martin Ace     =  manic rate

I missed that gig too!
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Post by: Tel on September 06, 2001, 08:59:10 AM
Tony -  Yep an entire side of Edgar Broughton doing Out Demons Out. As I recall, and I haven't heard it for some time, it's one of those live tracks where being at the gig probably helped but listening in the comfort of your living room (or wherever) tends to diminish the moment. In fact it can be rather tedious with EB ranting away over a drum beat for 75% of the track. Having said that it does seem to fit in with the rest of the album - somehow.
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Post by: halfamix on September 06, 2001, 03:22:42 PM
The Great Edgar Broughton is one of my favorite artists and the band are absolutely awesome live; although a whole side of "Out Demons Out" might even be to much for me.
To any Alabama 3 fans out there the band are at Bristols Fleece and Firkin on 23rd of September. I shall be there and six days later Cardiff: WAYHAY....Party on Dudes :cool:
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Post by: cumin trip on September 06, 2001, 04:11:05 PM
Or even
a dole red ken?
dear old knee
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 06, 2001, 04:44:27 PM
I was listening to Camel's Never Let Go album in the car today, and when they got to Ice I was overcome with the realisation that nothing has been heard from the legendary Maurice Chatigny for many weeks, if not months.  Come back, Maurice, we miss you
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Post by: Rover on September 07, 2001, 09:27:13 AM
Martin Ace performing solo acoustic. What tunes is he doing? Can I just mention Tangerine Dream?
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Post by: Rover on September 07, 2001, 09:28:43 AM
No justification for this message.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 07, 2001, 10:57:03 AM
Hey now look here, I worked really hard on that random justification feature for poster's names, and all you can do is whinge about it. Honestly, I sometimes think you people are never satisfied. I suppose you'll be wanting me to fix it now. Sheesh!
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Post by: pete feenstra on September 07, 2001, 12:06:32 PM
well here's a few more gigs for the over 30's...erm..40's..ok 50's in some cases
Luv
pete
www.feenstra.co.uk
Worcester Park Club
Park Terrace Malden rd, Worcester Park, Sy opp rail stn
Bookings 01784 46 00 94/info & Bookings 0208 568 0612
www.feenstra.co.uk  for updates

Fri 7th  Sept OMAR & THE HOWLERS (Austin, Texas USA)                    ?7adv

Classic Austin Texas Swamp blues band who promote their best ever album “The Screamin Cat” on Provogue records. Omar has a voice like Howlin Wolf meets Beeheart and a southern roots song writing sensibility to match.
Omar’s WPC appearance last year as part of his European tour was one of the highlights of the year. We expect this show to be equally compelling
Sun 9th t.b.c
Fri 14th Sept CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVED                            ?7adv
Another new WPC favourite, as vocalist Pete barton (Amimals & Friends, and superb guitarist Johnny “Guitar” Williamson bring you the best of John Fogarty and credence, from “Bad Moon Risin” and “Travellin Band” through to “Have You Ever Seen The Rain”; “Suzy Q” and of course “Proud Mary”

Sun 16th Sept BILL THOMAS BAND (Houston, Texas) ALBUM LAUNCH  ?6
Newly signed in the UK to Bluetrack records, Bill Thomas is a soulful vocalist with a Memphis feel, and a hugely original approach to songwriting. Tonight he officially launches his brand new album (details to follow)
Fri 21st Sept THE RETURN of THE BEATLES BAND                 ?7adv
Actually the return of Paul Mahoney as John lennn following his 6 week tour of the US as part of the Las Vegas Legends package. His hugely successful tour climaxed in Lubbcok, Texas where he played to 1050000 people, in Buddy Holly’s home town
Sun 23rd Sept ROGER CHAPMAN & The Shortlist                                         ?10
One of Britain’s greatest rock /r&b vocalists, the former Family/Streetwalkers front man tours in support of a new live album “Rollin & Tumblin” on Mystic records. This is a part electric/part acoustic show featuring Steve Simpson/Ian Gibbons/Geoff Dunne/Gary twig and many more in a Chappo style big band

Fri 28th Sept OTIS GRAND’s BIG BLUES BAND                                           ?7adv
Award winning blues guitarist/producer and big band leader Otis promotes his “Live Anthology” album on Mystic records. The album culls the best live highlights from Otis’s 12 year stay in this country. The Oakland blue master has also been nominated for a US Blues Grammy and his 7 piece band features Brother Roy Oakley (ASM/Greyhound) on vocals.
Sun 30th Sept JAY HOOKS BAND (Pasadena USA)         ?6
Provogue recording artist Jay Hooks, is a fiery rock blues guitarist in a Johnny Winter style of Texas blues. His self titled debut album has been well received on the blues rock circuit in Europe.

Fri 5th Oct BOBBY COCHRAN BAND                                 ?7adv
Nephew of the late great Eddie Cochran, the Oklahoma based guitarist Bobby has his own pedigree which extends from  his days in Steppenwolf, and Billy Cobham, to The New Riders of the Purple Sage and Bob Weir from the Grateful Dead.
Expect classic rock & roll, inspired guitar playing, and of course….Born To be Wild!                                                  
Fri 12th Oct   HAMSTERS LIVE ALBUM RECORDING                              ?7adv
The fiery rodent rockers return to the WPC to make a live recording of some of their favourite highlights from the last decade or more. Get down early and make a lot of noise for the hardest working blues rockers on the circuit.
Sun 14th Oct THE BEAUTIFUL HOUSEMARTINS                 ?6

Fri 19th Oct MICK TAYLOR BAND                                                                 ?10
Newly signed to cannonball records in the US, Stones/Dylan & Mayall guitarist Mick Taylor unveils his new album at this exclusive WPC date.

Sun 21st Oct WALTER TROUT & The Radicals. Special end of tour date
?10adv
Since going to press Walter Trout has entered the Billboard Blues charts top 10 with the new album “Go the Distance” on Ruf records. It’s a fair reward for a guitarist (Mayall/Canned Heat/Hooker) who since going solo, has recorded 10 albums and toured over 250 dates a year.

WINDLESHAM LIVE; Windlesham Village Club & Theatre, Kennel lane, Windlesham, Surrey Doors 8pm
BOX OFFICE 01784 46 00 94
Sat 29th Sept ROLLIN STONED            ?8adv/?10
Sat 27th Oct The BEAGLES play The EAGLES            ?8adv/?10
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Post by: Rover on September 07, 2001, 01:41:18 PM
THE RETURN of THE BEATLES BAND ... played to 1050000 people...
This makes them a better band than TD eh?
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Post by: . on September 07, 2001, 01:46:11 PM

A


Little


Experiment

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Post by: ..... on September 07, 2001, 03:03:10 PM

a


clever


doggie

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Post by: Fostz on September 07, 2001, 04:18:25 PM
Speaking of Tangerine Dream, have you heard the song, Tangerines Scream by Johnny Wishbone & the Voodoo Starfish
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Post by: Fostz on September 07, 2001, 04:22:55 PM
Oh yes, nearly forgot Arse but I bet no one's got that font installed.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on September 07, 2001, 05:33:10 PM
Have to say I'm off to see Omar & the Howlers tonight at Pete's little Worcester Park Club.  A pretty strong line up over the next few weeks.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on September 07, 2001, 05:36:18 PM
I shall spend this weekend happy in the knowledge that Fostz's arse is bigger than mine.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on September 07, 2001, 05:40:46 PM
That a big ARSE you got youself there Fostz.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on September 08, 2001, 02:17:54 AM
those of us with bony arse's only wish it was big.:o
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 08, 2001, 10:19:51 AM
I think I'll just grab message number 500 while I'm here. :D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 08, 2001, 11:33:21 AM
Edgar froese.
Oberheim eight voice polyphonics synthesizer,,twin keyboard mellotron mark v,arp digital soloist synthesizer,hotpoint microprofile 1400 deluxe,moog modular synthesizer&project electronic time control system,gibson les paul custom guitars,korg ps 3100 polyphonic synthesizer,roland gs 500 guitar&gr 500 controller,solina strings ensemble,ovation acoustic guitar.
Chris franke.
Moog modular synthesizer,project electronic sequenser,computer studio digital sequenser,loop mellotron,mellotron m 400,arp soloist synthesizer,elka string synthesizer,electronic percussion,oberheim sequenser,oberheim eight voice polyphonic synthesizer,oby one.
Steve Jolliffe.
vocals,bass flute,alto flute,c-flute piccolo,cor anglais,bass clarinet,hohner clarinet,elka string synthesizer,grand piano,fender rhodes,roland system-100 synthesizer,tenor&soprano horns,lyricon .
Klaus krieger.
Polyester custom built drums with multi trigger unit,electronic percussion,paiste cymbals,bubims,burma gong set.
There you have the line up for Tangerine dreams 1978 album Cyclone.
I was not going to mention them again,until someone else did.
I cant see any washing machines included?
Tangerine Dream-massive.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 08, 2001, 04:23:02 PM
:eek:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 08, 2001, 04:24:05 PM
EW, I didn't feel a thing !!
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Post by: halfamix on September 08, 2001, 05:03:41 PM
Ahh Yes Colin the great Steve Jolliffe of TD,one of the best flute and keyboard players around. He was kind enough to send me one of his most recent CD's for nothing the other day! He's been working in his recording studio in North Cornwall,most recently with Eat Static.
His engineer and mixing guy is a good friend of mine Steve Thomas who lives in a deep dark valley in Wales running his own "Small Trees" Studio.
Tried to get him to come to Cardiff but as well as engineering and mixing he's to busy Cavediving!!
:cool:
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Post by: tony on September 08, 2001, 11:11:36 PM
this weekend i am moist..ly playing donovans brain eclips and debris
roye albrighton the follies of rupert treacle
jim white wrong eyed jesus
alkatraz doin a monnlight
man at the starclub
and no tangerine dream ahhhh perfik!!
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Post by: The grim reaper. on September 08, 2001, 11:21:32 PM
Tony,Laugh at your peril,you are next pal.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 09, 2001, 03:18:06 AM
So, Bananna, the pills are working then? ;-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 09, 2001, 01:26:51 PM
I must have had the hottest curry ever last night washed down with a dozen stellas,im not kidding when i say my ringpiece is on fire.Beware of deepaks monsterous chicken ceylon.AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 09, 2001, 01:29:34 PM
Yes you swine,you guzzled all my stellas.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 09, 2001, 03:38:39 PM
Those of us with just bolux and skin wish it was big to.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 11, 2001, 08:11:27 AM
Half a mix.
Are you still going to cardiff on 29th.
Still got the 3cdr of The keep(ultimate
edition for you).
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Post by: halfamix on September 11, 2001, 01:24:13 PM
Astro My Man
Yep waiting for the tickets at this moment (Ordered them from box office on 4th Sept paying for Registered delivery and they are still not here!!)
I've got to meet Tony as well as we have some Edgar Broughton to exchange.
Any ideas where Man fans could meet? I haven't been to Cardiff for a while but my mate who's coming as well is from Barry! So a watering hole not to far from the Arena shouldn't be to hard to find.
:cool:
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Post by: Mike Aboud on September 12, 2001, 01:44:14 AM
Talking of Edgar Broughton, does anyone here know of Superchip? It was released at the end of the 70's (and re-released recently on CD, with a rather tedious "bonus" 17-minute track). It's one of my all-time favourite albums (minus the "bonus") and I was wondering how it compared to any of their other stuff.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 12, 2001, 01:56:01 AM
Last weekend I was mostly listening to :
Malcolm Morley - Aliens (several times)
Gemma Hayes - 4:35 a.m.
The Brecker Brothers - Collections 1 and 2
The Ozric Tentacles - Swirly Termination
Blink 182 - Take Off Your Pants and Jacket
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Post by: Mike Aboud on September 12, 2001, 02:29:24 AM
Am I the only one here who did not know that Repertoire had released "Man" with a couple of bonus tracks (single version of "Daughter of the Fireplace" and "Country girl")? It can be ordered from Milestone Mail Order (http://www.mileston-mailorder.com) but I gather that the sound quality on one or two Repertoire CDs has been less than perfect:eek:.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 12, 2001, 04:27:25 AM
No Mike, I didn't know that either. I wonder if this is the 'Man' related release that Tony mentioned a while ago, in conjunction with the Bystanders collection which was more widely known.

The single cut of 'Daughters' differs quite considerably from the album version (it was edited down to fit the time available on the reduced format), but I think 'Country Girl' is unchanged.

It'll be worth checking out the Repertoire release just to see if the album has been remastered, as both the bootleg version and the Point version leave a little to be desired in terms of sound quality.
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Post by: halfamix on September 12, 2001, 04:28:35 AM
Mike
I have "Superchip" on Vinyl as well as all of Edgars other vinyl LP's. This I think is one of their best LP's and unfortunately one of the last original LP's released by the band (They were by now just called The Broughtons)
I try not to buy re-releases on CD as I like vinyl but this can be like stabbing yourself in the back when tasty extra tracks are included, What are the extra tracks on the "Superchip" CD re-release?
This week I have been mainly listening to:
Alabama 3-"La Pesta"
ELP-"Pictures at an Exhibition"
Tangerine Dream-"Underwater Sunlight"
Bow down before the gods of electronic music ye of little faith!!!
The Neutrons-"Black Hole Star"
Ash Ra Temple & Dr Timothy Leary-"Seven Up"
Mmmmh Nice :cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 12, 2001, 05:09:53 AM
I've got a number of Repertoire releases and there has never been a problem with the quality with any of the ones I've bought.  As Jules suggest, this will hopefully give us a good quality version of this album at last - although a 20 minute skip after the album version of Daughter would not be unwelcome.

By the way, TD fans - you should be pleased that your favourites generate such a response.  Isn't this much better than an indifferent shrug of the shoulders?
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Post by: Tim W on September 12, 2001, 06:51:55 AM
Is it just me, or has this board become a time machine?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 12, 2001, 07:26:25 AM
Looks like the server clock's been reset. I shall modify the offset accordingly.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 12, 2001, 07:30:36 AM
There, that's better. Until the next time it gets reset again.
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Post by: tony on September 12, 2001, 07:43:37 AM
to all our american friends all our thoughts are with you at this terrible time .these people are not human.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on September 12, 2001, 07:48:59 AM
The Repertoire catalogue claims that "Man" has been digitally remastered and comes in a digipak. In fact it claims that "Endlich vernunftig auf bereitet. Digital remastert im digipak". Whatever that means:confused:. Any German speakers for that first sentence?

I was referring to the Repertoire release of Van Der Graaf Generator's "Aerosol Grey Machine" as not having brilliant sound quality. I've got the Repertoire release of In Hearing of by Atomic Rooster and it sounds pretty good to me. Great album :D - any Rooster fans out there?

Halfamix, the extra track on Superchip is called the "virus", and I think (from memory) it was recorded around 1990. It's a seventeen minute dirge, a bit like the Broughtons meet Tangerine Dream (not that I'm averse to either band, they just don't seem to go together).
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Post by: Adam on September 12, 2001, 11:52:16 AM
NYC is reeling, the whole city is in silent shock. We will never be the same. Hold on to your butts, there's going to be hell to pay. I only pray we don't start WWW III over it. Good luck world.
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Post by: halfamix on September 12, 2001, 12:04:52 PM
Thats the whole idea Mike, minds have to be kept open to ALL forms of Music, now I'm the most guilty person when it comes to being stuck in a time warp;but I happen to like 'Prog' rock!
Hold on to the Repertoire release of VDGG first LP as Hammill had that issue withdrawn and has now released it officially on his Fie! Label compleately remastered (Repertoire release was from a vinyl master)
I also like Atomic Rooster, I saw them years ago and had a chat with the late great Vincent Crane and have all the vinyl LP's originally released by the band. Vincent was one of the greatest keyboard players that has ever lived and a lovely guy who unfortunately lost his battle with mental illness in the 80's.
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Post by: halfamix on September 12, 2001, 12:08:58 PM
I would just like to add to our American friends that my thoughts are with you at this time.
It makes me ashamed to be a human being and as far as I am concerned the world would be a much better place if we were not here and nature could reclaim the planet
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 13, 2001, 02:44:07 AM
Can I add my sincere condolences to everyone affected by yesterday's horrific events. One of my best friends works at Merrill Lynch just opposite the Trade Centre, and the hours between 3 and 5 yesterday afternoon not knowing if Andy and his wife were OK were appalling - I got an e-mail from him saying that he got out in time, Thank God. However, many many of our clients had offices in the Trade Centre and are likely to be deeply affected by that obscene atrocity. Everyone, take great great care.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on September 13, 2001, 07:03:31 AM
Words cannot describe the way i felt when
i returned from work yesterday,to see the
horrific scenes in new york city.The person who ordered this and his adherents
are the scum of the earth.There are children without mothers and fathers,mums
and dads without sons and daughters,the list is endless.War is indeed a last resort for any lover of a peacful mankind
but those american people have every right to be bitter now,as has the whole of the western world,i hope that the scum who did this pay for it dearly.
U S citizens,my thoughts are with you.
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Post by: tony on September 13, 2001, 11:10:51 AM
i bought the new yes cd yesterday and i cant bring myself to play it or any other music i cant seem to get the terrible images of new york out of my head how those people must have suffered how any human could do that to another is somthing that i cant get to grips with at the moment music which i dearly love is just to painfull to play meybe the joy and fun will come back sometime, sorry to sound off like this but i thought i would just like to express my feelings.
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Post by: listening to J. Martyn on September 13, 2001, 02:01:41 AM
I don't want to know about evil
I only want to know about love
I'm waiting for the planes to tumble
I'm waiting for the sky to fall
I'm waiting for the cities to crumble
I'm waiting 'til I see you crawl
I don't want to know about evil
I only want to know about love
I don't want to know one thing about evil
I only want to know about love
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Post by: halfamix on September 13, 2001, 02:04:16 AM
I know what you are saying Tony about not feeling like playing music, I eventually found what I thought matched my mood and played The Industrial Hardcore band Skinny Puppys CD "The Process", Very hard going as full of industrial metal sounds with screaming vocals but matched the state of my head.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 13, 2001, 09:36:30 AM
Atomic Rooster's Death Walks Behind You is one of the Repertoire albums I have and the sound quality is excellent.  Was never too impressed by the other stuff that they did although I haven't heard much of the later stuff or the prodigious retreads of older material that they seemed to get stuck in.

Also like to echo everyone's thoughts about the events of Tuesday.  It is really quite unbelievable.  This has changed so many things in ways which may take some time to realise, with the potential to be for the better but with as likely a risk for the opposite.  Much as I disagree politically with Bush, I do hope that he manages to take the rights steps in seeking justice for those killed.  And I use the word justice deliberately rather than revenge.  A policy based on justice will maintain the coalition that seems to currently exist; one based on (or perceived to be) based on revenge will split this.  The signs so far in this regard are good.

As disgusted as I was by the sight of the Palestinians celebrating this disaster, I  must also compliment Yasser Arafat on the stance he has taken.  Giving a pint of blood in itself is not much, but it did send out a powerful message both to his own people and the rest of the world.  This was a demonstration of leadership but the pessimist in me fears that this may do him no good with his own people.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 13, 2001, 09:40:35 AM
Eh......it's 0836 on Thursday 13 and not as advertised  :confused:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 13, 2001, 10:21:46 AM
Unix clocks all rolled over to a billion on Sunday morning, and I suspect it's this that has caused the strange date and time displays that have been seen here (and elsewhere) this week. I've reset the time zone offset again to bring it back in line.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 13, 2001, 10:47:15 AM
I still can't find the right words to describe my feelings regarding Tuesday's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. I was, and remain, appalled. I'm keenly aware that only a few short weeks ago my eldest son sent home a video e-mail from the top of the World Trade Center. He and those of his schoolfriends who also made the trip are deeply shocked.

The world has changed.  

There is a need for justice. Cool-headed, but implacable, justice. It is difficult to envisage any punishment that could fit the enormity of the crime, but the perpetrators must be identified and apprehended.

Many European countries have declared tomorrow to be a day of mourning, a welcome gesture of solidarity with our friends and colleagues in the USA.

As a mark of respect to the innocent victims of these outrageous attacks, I am closing the Archive and the Manboard for a period of twenty-four hours, starting at midnight UK time tonight.

I hope you'll join with me in making Friday September 14th a day of reflection and remembrance.
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Post by: Tel on September 13, 2001, 12:12:09 PM
I also offer my thoughts and prayers to the thousands of innocent victims from tuesdays horrific tragedies. Being "remote" from the events it was not until last night that the shock of what happened began to sink in and the implications for the world of the future. As it has been said previously Justice needs to be sought, a Justice that will act as a deterrent to everybody who wages war against innocent people. However I also hope that this will give the Governments of the world a chance to reflect on their policies against countries where they do not share a politcal ideal or religious beliefs - both in the West and in the East - and look toward peaceful solutions in the future rather than unecessary military actions that serve no purpose and achieve no end. - Tel
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Post by: Tel on September 13, 2001, 01:46:48 PM
Another strange coincidence re WTC- The Band Drean Theater released a live CD 'Scenes from New York' on 11 th september, and on the cover was a picture of The WTC, statue of liberty and Manhattan in flames. I understand thay are removing it from the shelves at the moment.
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Post by: tony on September 13, 2001, 06:16:28 PM
who ever posted the john martyn song got it right    tony
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 14, 2001, 01:00:12 AM
Closing down.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 15, 2001, 01:02:57 AM
Re-opening. Thank you to everyone who has respected this short closure.
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on September 16, 2001, 06:32:41 PM
I was at the Cambridge v Cardiff football match yesterday and was interested to see the home side's shirt sponsors were none other than Quicksilver Messenger Service.Then,at half time,the PA announcer advertised the live music on offer in the clubhouse on Saturday evening - a band called Crazy Horse.

Nice to see quality music flourishing in the lower divisions!
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Post by: Fostz on September 17, 2001, 10:16:08 AM
and wasn't Cardiff's kit sponsered by the Super Furry Animals for the Welsh cup?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 17, 2001, 10:40:30 AM
This weekend I 'ave been mostly listenin' to: Buzzy Linhart, Gemma Hayes, Deke Leonard's Iceberg, Daft Punk, Tomita and Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Plus of course the comforting sound of a whirring hard drive.

:-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 17, 2001, 11:06:10 AM
My listening pleasure for the weekend was Dylan's 5 volume Genuine Basement Tapes, a 5CD compilation of Neil Young's acoustic tour in 1999 and half of the first box of ELP's Bootleg Series.

My viewing pleasure was seeing the Jags stuff the Clyde 3-0 and maintain our position at the top of the 1st division.  Another promotion season?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 17, 2001, 01:06:52 PM
Flash In The Pan

(another late lamented beat combo from the seventies)

;-)
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on September 17, 2001, 01:27:16 PM
Yes Fostz.Of course that was the genuine Super Furry Animals on that occasion.I supect this Quicksilver Messenger Service might be...erm...a messenger service.
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Post by: Tel on September 17, 2001, 01:35:47 PM
The Jags - another late lamented beat combo from the 80's
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Post by: Tel on September 17, 2001, 02:41:02 PM
I'd just like to thank EVERYONE for their messages of concern.....I escaped from SF at the last minute (the day before). Did Malcolm travel??
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 17, 2001, 03:09:13 PM
Tower Records in Glasgow have four (count 'em) copies of Maybe I Should Have Stayed In Bed at ?6.99 as part of a sale.  (Not sure I ever recall seeing any available at normal price, but I don't visit there too often)
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 17, 2001, 03:35:57 PM
Good to see the Re-Enter the Dragon gig getting press in the new editions of Record Buyer and Classic Rock. Has a meeting place been agreed yet for Saturday 29 in Cardiff ?
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 17, 2001, 03:47:40 PM
There's an advert in Mojo as well.  Also GT2 ads in Mojo and Classic Rock.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 17, 2001, 04:28:28 PM
Have Peter Hook and Martin Ace ever been seen in the same room together?  Are they in any chance related?
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 17, 2001, 04:46:12 PM
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 17, 2001, 04:50:17 PM
See link aside
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 18, 2001, 01:03:18 AM
Congrats to a certain Mr K 'Todger' Tanswell of Gloucestershire who registered page hit 30K on the Archive earlier today (or maybe yesterday if midnight has just snuck up on me again). Such patience and committed use of the refresh button shall not go unrewarded.

A suitably emblazoned t-shirt, unsponsored by either QMS or SFA, will be despatched shortly. Or rather, will be despatched extra-largely.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 18, 2001, 10:03:37 AM
I am desperately seeking the Neutons - Black Hole Star on cd. Tried Tim Whitcombe without success so he refered me here. Was it ever released? If not can anyone supply me with Going To India and Snow Covered Eyes on MP3 format.
Any assistance would be welcone.
Thanks
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 18, 2001, 10:13:24 AM
There have been posts suggesting that Black Hole Star was released on a bootleg CD in parts of Europe within the last couple of years. Don't know if anyone has actually received a copy though. Someone else may be able to confirm the story. Anyone got one?

Of course the technology exists to copy vinyl onto CD at any time, but an official digital release of the Neutrons output is still awaited (along with a number of other related articles).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 18, 2001, 01:56:39 PM
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 18, 2001, 01:57:39 PM
that'll teach me to try to be a clever bugger
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 18, 2001, 05:08:13 PM
..funny that

I've been listening to both the Neutrons albums this week, plus the sound of my VAT return form shouting "FILL ME IN, FILL ME IN......."

I 'specs I'll leave it to the last minute, as usual....
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Post by: halfamix on September 18, 2001, 05:25:16 PM
Stuart Gordon who plays Violin and Strings on "Black Hole Star" only lives down the road from me, he now plays violin for Peter Hammill and several local Bristol bands,last time I had a drink with him we chatted about the LP which was one of his first ever apperances on vinyl,he hardly rememebers anything of the sessions due to overindulgence!!!:cool:
Thats not the only connection to Peter Hammill as Paul Whitehead who did the drawings for "Black Hole Star" also designed Van Der Graaf Generators LP covers as well as the early Genesis LP covers
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on September 18, 2001, 05:30:25 PM
Half a mix, i will be in kiwis wine bar at around 2pm on sat 29,9,01 with about 5 or 6 mates,from there we cross just across the road to weatherspoons(the prince of wales) at around 3.30.Some excellent real ales on sale in weathers
the last few weeks, i was drinking one last friday called winter wobbler,summed it up perfectly.Happy hour in kiwis 11am to 6pm worthington at ?1.30 and carling at ?1.40 and its decent gear.I will have CDS with me.Hope to see you there and anyone else as well.
  Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: tony on September 18, 2001, 07:35:49 PM
halfamix at this moment in time i dont really feel like going to cardiff i cant seem to shake the image of planes and buildings crashing and collapsing and people jumping to there deaths i will let you know by next thursday if im going if i dont email me and i will send you the edgar broughton stuff
  tony
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Post by: Gordon Luck on September 18, 2001, 10:30:06 PM
Congratulations to Kevin on the 30k hit. Have a good time Wednesday night at the gig, I know I did last Thursday night!
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 19, 2001, 10:32:57 AM
Happy Arse all. Bin doin laden stuff about the globe...pushin' envelopes and such, I've got a lot of catching up to do.  (p.s. The website looks great Jules...RIPwrinkle to the old Imusic board)
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Post by: Ian Johnson on September 19, 2001, 10:37:13 AM
Seeing the Captain, Alex Harvey & Little Feat last night on OGWT

Marvellous.

Thats all for now...
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Post by: Ihan Jhonson (not a Narab) on September 19, 2001, 10:39:32 AM
I'm sure I speak for us all when I say welcome home Maurice
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 19, 2001, 11:11:57 AM
And so the atrositous once again reared it's ugly head making the children fearful of the world in whence they were to born. The futures untold, the pasts left unfold the darkness the light, the love and the fight. Hitlerize my Ghandi while I go get a bite...drinking Kirin calms the fearin', Al Kho Alik damaged frolic. Puddin and pie...and made them cry.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 19, 2001, 12:06:41 PM
took me about 2 hours to read back to this one..I'm a slow reader:"I was listening to Camel's Never Let Go album in the car today, and when they got to Ice I was overcome with the realisation that nothing has been heard from the legendary Maurice Chatigny for many weeks, if not months. Come back, Maurice, we miss you"..mutual...go y listen now. humbly legendary Man. (p.s. I still want to hear Mickey's version of "Ice" and "Happiness is a warm gum"
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 19, 2001, 12:15:41 PM
Been listening to this weekend Shubert's string quartet D.810 "Death and the Maiden" and string quartet D.87 in E flat/en mi bemol majeur   total  64.46
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 19, 2001, 12:31:31 PM
Am now listening to "Ice" from "Never Let Go" (thanks to Allan Herron) and although ice describes the heart of Bin Ladden "Ice" describes the heart of Man. Go ride a Camel.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 19, 2001, 12:53:32 PM
Although we may never meet face to face , I thank you all. I have found a home here amongst my kind. sincerely...maurice
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Post by: michael heatley on September 19, 2001, 01:04:14 PM
Just a thought, inspired by suggestions of songs for Micky to sing. How about we get a list of repertoire together and see if we can get a 'Man Under The Covers' album going? It's something they've never done, and if everyone suggests one song I could publish a list in the next TWC - or even give it them backstage at Cardiff. Wonder what the reaction would be?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 01:11:44 PM
Ah, bejeezus, the mighty Maurice has returned from his sojourn amongst the heathens. Marvellous, to see that the Chatigny vineyard is still producing a vintage brew. Welcome back.

:D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 01:15:45 PM
Crazy creatures of our doom, telling us there is no room.  Not enough for all Mankind, The seas of time, running dry. Don't they know it's a lie. Man is born with a will to survive. He'll not take no for an answer. He will get by, somehow he'll try. He won't take no, Never Let Go.

I here them talk about Kingdome Come, I here them discuss armagedon. I here the hour is getting late. But I can still hear someone say, this is not the way. Man is born with a will to survive, he'll not take no for an answer. he will get by, somehow he'll try, He won't take no, Never Let Go....no.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 01:16:00 PM
Michael, you're kidding of course. Surely we're not due another Man album for at least four more years yet.

;-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 01:24:27 PM
Absolutely agree with Michael Heatley's post (excuse me if I spelled wrong) I would much rather hear Man try to do a rendition of Sugar Sugar than hear the 1000th rendition of bananas...well OK, the 1000 rendition of Bananas could be GREAT too! (Song suggestions anyone...I've personnaly been contemplating Johnny Rivers' "Secret Agent MAN"
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 01:26:54 PM
Wow...Secret Agent MAN...Under the Covers...get it?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 01:32:01 PM
How about a 19 minute extended jam based on "A night in Dad's Bag"....just a suggestion. (p.s. bring back Tweke Lewis for this)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 19, 2001, 02:02:32 PM
Songs to cover choosology. Besides the songs I've mentioned..."Spirit In the Sky"...Norman Greenbaum..."Eyes of the World"...Greatful Dead..."Move On Up" ...Curtis Mayfield.
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Post by: Tel on September 19, 2001, 02:10:42 PM
Eh - welcome back Maurice - the race to 1000 will. be all the quicker??
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Post by: Tel on September 19, 2001, 02:15:13 PM
Seriously, I would like to see everyone  encourage Man to go back to the studio as a cover band to get back to their roots and celebrate the great songs since their roots.,,,if not it will be plain fun seeing songs you think would be classic "MAN" repetoire...MAN doing Helpyouself would be great.....I understand it's not that easy and a commitment must be...oh what the fu...
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Post by: Tel on September 19, 2001, 02:23:21 PM
Songs for the band to cover - good call Michael. (I think only 4 have made it to vinyl - Babe Im Gonna Leave - Codine - Let The Good Times Roll and Talk About A Morning. Have I missed any?) So how about - Capt Beefhearts "My Head Is my Only House Even When It Rains" - nice guitar work which would benefit from Mickey's interpretation. Tel :cool:
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Post by: Tel on September 19, 2001, 08:07:52 PM
Hey,what about BIG EYED BEANS FROM VENUS
with the ACE-MAN on lead vox. TSK TSK.
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Post by: Tel on September 19, 2001, 08:50:33 PM
:eek:
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Post by: Tel on September 19, 2001, 10:39:16 PM
Songs for the band to cover - if yesterday's S Wales Evening Post is to be believed, there's going to be another cover on 'Undrugged'. I won't spoil then fun by revealing what...... :-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 20, 2001, 11:03:19 AM
Man should cover Pink Floyd's Apples and Oranges.  Would make a fine companion to Bananas!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 20, 2001, 01:24:08 PM
Also to be included on the fruits Ep is; Lemon by U2 and the inevitable, Tangerines by Johnny Wishbone.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 20, 2001, 01:44:07 PM
After my last poor attempt at posting a pic here I don't think I'll try again. Instead here's a link to Pink Floyd's back catalogue
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 20, 2001, 03:53:36 PM
Fostz - your links are about as effective as your images :rolleyes:
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Post by: halfamix on September 20, 2001, 05:09:17 PM
Did someone mention Tangerine Dream again? Oh no it said Tangerines!
Tickets finally arrived for Cardiff. So it looks like Kiwi's bar if I can get there early enough if not the Weatherspoons pub from 1530 onwards;to meet Colin.
Let me know if you are going to be there Tony as I'll bring Edgar Broughton tape.
Hope to see a few there?
:cool:
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 21, 2001, 09:06:05 AM
pretty drunk the other night....pretty drunk tonite two.  tooo spellings, won life. hair of the dog.  multiple postinggasms.  more too come.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 21, 2001, 09:24:30 AM
Suggestion for Man cover album.  "Dimples" ala John Lee Hooker.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 21, 2001, 09:30:23 AM
I still vote Johnny Rivers' "Secret Agent Man" my number one choice for a cover.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 21, 2001, 09:46:38 AM
There's a Man who leads a life of danger. To everyone he meets he stays a stranger. With every move he makes, another chance he takes. Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow.

(Chorus)

Secret Agent Man
Secret Agent Man
Hey, giving you a number and taking way your name.

Beware of pretty faces that you  find.
A pretty face can hide an evil mind.
Oh, be careful what you say, or you'll give yourself away.

odds are you won't live to see tomorrow.

Secret Agent Man
Secret Agent Man
Hey, giving you a number and taking way your name.
Swinging on the riveria one day,
And laying out in Bombay in the next day.

Oh don't you let the wrong words slip,
while kissing persuasive lips.
odds are you won't live to see tomorrow.


Secret Agent Man
Secret Agent Man
Hey, giving you a number and taking way your name.
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Post by: Fostz on September 21, 2001, 10:35:27 AM
That's not on. I tried my link first to make sure it worked and it did and then the man goes and censors my photo just because it had one or two (six) naked ladies on it. Geocities? Worse than Hitler.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 21, 2001, 12:23:17 PM
It's Friday, so I though I might just possibly venture a small and discrete arse as the weekend approaches.
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Post by: rover on September 21, 2001, 01:44:45 PM
Hmm, a small pink one. That's unusual.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 21, 2001, 03:11:47 PM
I've just heard that the release date for 'Undrugged' has been put back until January.

:-(
 
The album has been mastered and is with Voiceprint for manufacture, but it will have to take its place in the overall Voiceprint schedule, which is looking encouragingly full right now. The Flying Aces and Turban Town projects are in the same position, a January release is expected for both these also.

Some excellent news though is that the band are heading back into the studio very soon to begin work on a new Man album.

:D

Loco Studios near Monmouth is a likely venue, and this'll be a new collection of original songs. I suspect the cover versions album may have to wait a while. As Phil is unlikely to be able to get over very often, Gareth has been asked to contribute his keyboard skills to the project.

Marvellous, I say. I reckon this is only fitting, as his presence in the band's live line-up over the last year has been a huge boost to the sound.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 21, 2001, 03:13:30 PM
I could grab 600 too. Just while I'm in the neighbourhood ya know.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 21, 2001, 03:19:18 PM
Dib dib dib Rover.
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 21, 2001, 03:43:11 PM
Excellent news about the prospects for a new album. Anyone know if there are plans to record GT2 ?

OGWT was interesting last night. Boy were REM crap, and although I have never much liked U2 their performance was actually quite impressive. Nice to see such an understated performance from Mr Loaf; the hardest working member of the band award had to go to his braces. I remember the Robert Wyatt performance from first time around. Any votes for clip of the week ? Mine would be for Rory Gallagher or Southside Johnny.

Tony, I hope you do decide to make it to Cardiff next Saturday. To paraphrase Garth Hudson ( who according to Mojo has filed for bankruptcy for the third time, which must be some kind of record ) from the Last Waltz, music is a great healer; we all probably need reminding of what can be good and life affirming, whilst never forgetting and showing respect and compassion for all those who have suffered so grievously in recent weeks.

Colin and Halfamix I will try and join you in the Prince of Wales after 3.30; Wren are you going ? Who else is going to be there ?
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Post by: Mark Davies on September 21, 2001, 04:11:52 PM
Monday's OGWT was running late. Val & I watched our recording and sat through 20 mins of pretty average stuff (Alice Cooper being the best of the rest IMHO), before the video switched off 30 secs into Rory G's first number (of 2). Bugger.
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Post by: Mark Davies on September 21, 2001, 04:15:17 PM
Rob:- funny you should mention OGWT. I'm in the middle of watching the excellent 2 disc DVD that came out this week. A host of outstanding performances including Lynyrd Skynyrd, Captain Beefheart, Little Feat, Rory Gallagher - even John Otway! Some entertaining reminiscences from past presenters too. No home should be without one..... (?17.99 including delivery from www.play247.com)
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 21, 2001, 04:55:23 PM
Re Garth Hudson - is to not the case that bankruptcy in the USA is used as a financial strategy by individuals/companies for their own convenience at times?  I don't think it's quite the same thing as we would regard it over here in the UK
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 21, 2001, 06:13:32 PM
Hello Rob.
I will be there with a few MAN die-hard mates whom i think youve met before,should be a fabolous evening and hope to see you in prince of wales after 3.30 will be great to see you.I always bring along the fantastic mark john, he is a 1968 onward die-hard.Its a pleasure to be in the company of the man.Come on you manoraks,lets make it a great one.
P/S Mickey Jones- the man is out of this world.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 21, 2001, 06:40:43 PM
Well, actually he's in Switzerland right now. I'm not sure if that counts.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 21, 2001, 11:23:17 PM
Hi Rob, yes I'll be in Cardiff next weekend for my birthday treat!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 12:03:27 AM
Ahhh - the inimitable chimings of Maurice!!  :o)

Rob, CJ, halfamix and Tony: hope to spot you in Weatherspoons!!  

Take care everybody.  The best of life and love to you all!  

Anna
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 12:06:14 AM
Maurice, that should've been a smile.  Good to see you back.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 01:09:35 AM
The greatest are coming to the CIA,the man are a complete quality performance.
Vintage rock from the avant-garde kings.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 04:04:27 AM
My vote for Man love song cover would have to be Whole Lotta Love by the Zep. Or Heartbreaker. I just watched Neil Young blow away Lennon's Imagine on the telethong thing there're doing for the folks at TWC.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 04:05:42 AM
thon
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 04:07:16 AM
WTC
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 05:18:55 PM
Interested in the debate about a Man album of cover songs.

If that's not possible - how about a live concert of cover songs?

I think they could find a lot of suitable material from some great music put out in the mid seventies.

There was a band - I can't remember who -  who put together one of my favourite albums, it really hangs together well and yet I've never heard more than one of the songs played live.

There was lots a fab slide guitar, great vocals, good tight songs, nice mix of roickers and ballads, great album cover.

I'd really love to see those songs 'covered' live by a great band such as Man.

Only problem is as I get older and my brain goes into slow motion, I can't remember the name of the band or the album. Cany anyone help?

PS If any of you Man fans are Swans fans and are not at Boothferry Park I can give you the internet address for the radio commentary - it makes great listening, even better than Man.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 05:24:31 PM
And Adam, was that blown away as in ruined? Or was it that you were blown away by Neil's version (I missed it).
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Post by: halfamix on September 22, 2001, 05:34:27 PM
Just a thought: How am I going to recognise anyone at this Weatherspoons pub (Prince of Wales)?
I refuse to walk in wearing a red carnation and carrying a newspaper under my left arm!
I'll have to look through my vast collection of T-shirts and let you all know the design/band name or logo of it so anyone who's not liked any of halfamixs comments can then throw things at me!!!!
See ya all there only a week now
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 06:31:14 PM
DJY, that forgotten album sounds like Little Feat's 'Last Record Album' to me. I wonder how many other candidates there are?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 22, 2001, 10:59:52 PM
DJY Neil Blew me away. I never really thought anyone could cover that song and do it justice to John L. It's on a list of songs some radio chains won't play interestingly enough and Mr. Young seemed quite pointed about it. The only words he changed were imagine no posessions, I wonder if I can...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 23, 2001, 12:17:49 AM
The whole show was seemless.I hope it will come out on DVD. Springsteen did a great opener and everyone was amazing. It brought in 100 million last night! For some reason I couldn't bring myself to tape it on the VCR. Very strong stuff. :)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 23, 2001, 07:13:13 PM
Jules as you well know the only little feet involved belonged to Micky Jones. He's probably used them since to trample over any chances of getting any of it played live.

Adam thanks for the info.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 23, 2001, 08:14:10 PM
Hello everyone, long time no speak. Hope you are all well, and many many condolences to anyone effected by the recent atrocities. We have family in N.Y. and 19 yr old cousin been called up as reserve. Really brings it home. Just been flicking through channels on Sky Digital, and joined a Radio Wales programme I think called Dragon's Breath about the influence of Welsh music on pop music. All about Tom Jones, Mary Hopkin (here we go), but on came John Cale, Andy F.L.(promising), Badfinger, and very brief mention of Eyes of Blue and Jets (very promising). Back to Tom Jones, but then......Martin Ace talking about Man, I think Mickey Jones talking as well, all to the backdrop of the original Spunk Box which was then faded up for about 20 secs. Brilliant, Man on  TV and not one of my videos. The prog. is a series, next weeks is on Welsh singer/songwriters (scope there)between 5.00pm+6.00pm Sky Digital channel 867.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 23, 2001, 10:42:29 PM
DJY, but of course. Forgive my obtuseness, I've been on a low-irony diet of late.
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Post by: Tel on September 24, 2001, 12:06:55 AM
Last week maurice - today Rob Woolfe - good to hear from you Rob.
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Post by: Tel on September 24, 2001, 12:09:04 AM
DJY - They're re-running the telethon now on the BBC and I hope you caught it. Mr Young's version of Imagine is indeed tremendous.
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Post by: Mark Davies on September 24, 2001, 01:35:31 PM
Appears that Radio 2 are doing a series of events from Cardiff between 9th & 20th Oct - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/event_cardiff_home.shtml .

No sign of the Manband in any of the stuff, tho'. Shame.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 24, 2001, 03:36:18 PM
Mark, The band have been approached by Radio 2 to do something during the week of November 9th, but I don't know anything more substantial than that. Given the ads that have been running on the radio lately I'd say that Man would probably running as one of the 'fringe' acts.

I shall enquire further...
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Post by: Alan Davies on September 24, 2001, 03:51:01 PM
This week I have been mostly listening to The Baddest of George Thorogood, Dylan's Blood On The Tracks, Rory Gallagher's Irish Tour and Rhinos Winos & Lunatics.
Looking forward to Saturday. I rang the box office line but haven't booked as there are lots of tickets left. Directions to the Wetherspoons pub anyone ?
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on September 24, 2001, 05:04:03 PM
Alan,whether you are travelling by bus or train,as soon as you get outside the central train station,take the second right into st mary street and the prince of wales(weatherspoons) is situated at the traffic lights.A sizable building which is easy to find.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 24, 2001, 05:07:18 PM
The Radio 2 in Cardiff date for Man is now confirmed as October 11th at Clwb Yfor Bach.

They're in Womanby Street, just opposite the southern end of the Castle.
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 24, 2001, 05:08:11 PM
Alan, it is a conversion of the old Prince of Wales cinema at the Central Station end of St.Mary's Street. It is on the corner of St. Mary's Street opposite the old Brain's Brewery site down by Caroline Strret - you can't miss it, it has a big glass fronted entrance . What time do you expect to be there ? The Irish tour CD is a corker - have got the video ? I'll bring my copy on Saturday if not.
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 24, 2001, 05:22:01 PM
Man are listed in the Virtual Cardiff fringe listings as playing on the Blues and Country Night with the Coal Porters - is that the band that features a former member of the Long Ryders ? Never thought of Man as either blues or country though ! Shame it is a Thursday as this will make it almost impossible to get to unless an Allan Heron type business meeting can be arranged !
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Post by: Alan Davies on September 24, 2001, 09:11:04 PM
Rob, Colin, thanks for the directions, I'll see you there Saturday, probably around 3-3:30. Rob I haven't seen the RG video but wouldn't suggest you bring it on Saturday as it may go astray if I end up in my usual Man gig condition.
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Post by: ronald sanchez on September 24, 2001, 09:14:11 PM
Syd Griffin is the x-Long Ryder in the Coal Porters. I'd think they'd be more like the Byrds, with a rock edge. Syd's a huge Rockpile fan, so I suspect he knows who Man is. If anyone goes around, tell Syd high for me. I sent him a 'pile tape a while back, and he seem to dig it. I get mailing from him still.

On the Brain front: Treece has heen in hospital for a week, but he's back home now, on the mend. Malc's been in Berkeley visiting. His plans for a visit to Montana didn't work out: distances and cost. He's got us down for his return visit. he asked if he "could jam with us" if he came out. We're preparing for another round of gigging. Joining the four of us is our friend Meagan Pickerel (from Swoon 23 and Jessamine. She'll be playing some e-bow, piano and singing back ups. The set features a lot of the new songs that'll be on the next album. We've also pulled Kew Observatory from Carelessly Restored Art, a song that's never been played live! We'll also be playing one of Jeff's songs. Crystal Palace has appeared on one of the Racketship cds (Jeff's band with Meagan) but we thought we should do it too. I'll be taping the next couple of rehearsals to see if we get any keepers. Either way, there will be live tapes from the gigs. Watch the web site for any signs of these....
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on September 25, 2001, 10:34:41 PM
The reason I'm so quiet is that we are in the middle of an enormous invasion of Lemmings - they are currently approaching from all directions at an alarming rate - the roads have literally turned into rotting lemming flesh. If we get through all this...damn there's  one going for the computer cabl
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Post by: halfamix on September 26, 2001, 01:50:11 AM
Ahh yes:
Lemmings an excellant song from Van Der Graaf Generators 1971 LP "Pawn Hearts"
Most fine
:cool:
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Post by: huh? on September 26, 2001, 04:42:32 AM
that low irony remark wasn't ironic, was it?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 26, 2001, 10:51:25 AM
No, just low.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 26, 2001, 12:14:34 PM
I will be in Cardiff on Saturday. I may be unusual as a Man fan I also have most of Budgies stuff on vynil. First saw them support Hawkwind at Barry memorial Hall in about 1970/1971 I think ( I was about 16/17). They were great live, but that is the only time I saw them.

I will be bringing my wife, my sister and her husband to swell the numbers. As a few others have mentioned I am suprised that Budgie are topping the bill, as the following for Man back in those days was much bigger.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 12:22:58 PM
Budgie being top of the bill on Saturday - a theory.  Metallica have covered a couple of Budgie songs which has no doubt swelled the bank account of Burke Shelley somewhat more than his colleagues.  This leads me to wonder whether Budgie are involved in the funding of the event, and the quid pro quo was for them to headline.  All other conspiracy theories welcome.......
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 01:28:42 PM
I had a problem at the weekend, with anti-matter sucking and pulsing periodically down my way. Still, took my mind off the diamonds I was trying to find in the sulphur mine, lacking sleep and food and vision.;-)
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 26, 2001, 02:42:13 PM
The gig seems to be promoted via da Records; their web-site suggests that they promoted the Racing Cars and Sassafrass gig at St David's Hall last year, which led to Racing Cars' Bolt from the Blue album - and a darn good one it is too.

Budgie probably have got a marginally higher recognition factor in South Wales than Man so I am not surprised that they are plugged as the headliners, and the Metallica covers may attract more hard rock/metal fans along. However, I don't think anyone "headlines" the Manband, they just happen to play after them !

Paul are you going to be in the Prince of Wales pre-gig ?
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Post by: halfamix on September 26, 2001, 03:49:59 PM
Lacking sleep and food and vision here I am again encamped upon your floor.
I think its the Metallica connection that has got Budgie as 'top of the bill' they have apparently been playing to 20000 plus crowds in the States and have more original members than ever!!!
I have a couple of their vinyl LP's and a orange 7" (ooooh) by the band but I personally find them a bit ordinary in a metal sort of way, I saw them in the early 80's live and they are OK but we all know who will blow them offstage and they must have a 'bit of bottle' to go on after MAN.
Still lifer "I'm so far out I'm to far in".
"Sinking ever down and down and ultimately passing away....Time which no longer has any meaning
:cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 04:35:18 PM
Halfamix - you sound like you were reading the article in Wondrous Stories
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 04:47:02 PM
Neutrons Black Hole Stare are available from Skivhugget in Sweden as a special order (3-6 weeks) www.skivhugget.se
-Peter
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 05:23:48 PM
Suggestions for Man Cover versions as per request from Micheal.


Man of the world – Fleetwood Mac ( Micky on vocals and lead guitar break, wicked)
Wide Eyed & legless – Andy f.Weather Low
Delilah – Tom Jones / Alex Harvey
American Woman – Guess Who ( Deke on vocals and heavy riffing)
Riders of the Storm – Doors
Son of Mr Green Jeans – Mr F. Zappa ( Martin Ace on vocals)
Good morning little schoolgirl / I woke up this morning – any point of ref you want
Neanderthal Man – Hotlegs / 10CC
Love comes to Town – U2 ( Deke on vocals,  Micky  solo, mmmmh)
I’m in love with my car – Queen ( Ace on vocals)
Get Back – Beatles ( Ace or Micky on vocals)
No more Heroes – Stranglers ( Deke on vocals)
Shot by both sides – Magazine ( Ace on Vocals)
Public Image – Public image Ltd.
No matter What – Badfinger
Ain’t no Sunshine – Bill Withers
Anything by Elvis ( to keep Deke Happy)
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 05:26:45 PM
Rob, Iwill try to make the POW before gig. Are Kamla Taz worth seeing as 5.30 is a very early start.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 26, 2001, 06:27:55 PM
Man dont have to top the bill,i for one know they are in a different league,and thats the premier league.No contest.
Show em how its done chaps.
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Post by: Rob Davies on September 26, 2001, 09:20:18 PM
Martin Ace's site has details of some gigs at the Patti. The Man Christmas party is listed as Saturday 22 December, and Josh Ace is on the bill. The Jets are playing on Saturday 24 Novemeber - two other bands on the bill. There are also dates for Chappo, Carl Palmer and others.

See you on Saturday Paul ! Cover version - Breadfan ? No that's been done hasn't it.
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Post by: minnie mouse's brother on September 26, 2001, 11:34:26 PM
So, how long will the Manband's set be on Saturday, and what songs are they likely to play? Any guesses?
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Post by: Paul Reilly on September 27, 2001, 10:07:43 AM
http://www.theonion.com/onion3703/marilyn_mason.html

Have a look and have a laugh
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Post by: Gareth Williams on September 27, 2001, 02:13:45 PM
The first time i saw Man was on the "Up For A Day Tour" in 1973 at the Top Rank in Cardiff and the first time i saw Sassafras was at a college just off Colchester Avenue,Cardiff also in 1973.
I have other wonderful memories of seeing
both Man and Sassafras at various venues in Cardiff in the 70's and i,m really envious of you lot that will be there on Saturday,hope it's a great night!
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Post by: halfamix on September 27, 2001, 03:28:05 PM
"Wonderous Stories" Allan...Nooo
Just a few choice lyrics by the true musical genius Peter Hammill (Van Der Graaf Generator-frontman)
:cool:
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Post by: Barney on September 27, 2001, 03:32:30 PM
I take this gig on Saturday is a sitty-down thing? Whatever next!
Any other Man fan going on their tod and would prefer to have some company?
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Post by: Barney on September 27, 2001, 03:36:22 PM
Relating to my msg below, I'm coming up from the West Country to go to Ninian Park before the gig. Any others out there with a similar schedule?
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Post by: halfamix on September 27, 2001, 03:39:30 PM
Colin I hope you're not bringing your mate John (L) who chats on the TD guestbook with you on Saturday as after slagging MAN off (in jest or not) in their gustbook he now refers to me as half witt!!!!! When all I suggested was that all forms of music should be respected. Cheeky ***tard
I am only a quarter witt with the other three quarters being very serious and sensible
;-)
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on September 27, 2001, 04:12:34 PM
Warning!
CD "Arthur" by Man are not by the real MAN. It?s a french jazzgroup. Not so bad, but no psychedelic rocking.
-Peter
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on September 27, 2001, 04:35:36 PM
I'm not able to get to the gig at the CIA this weekend unfortunately. I hope it's a great show for everyone who does go. I'm planning to be in Cardiff for the Clwb Ivor Bach show on the 11th, anyone else got that one on their agenda?
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Post by: Michael Heatley on September 27, 2001, 05:34:54 PM
Look forward to seeing you all on Sat.
However I also have to review gigs on Moinday (Jack Bruce @ Shep Bush Empire) and Wednesday (Gong & Orb @ Festival Hall) and ahve a spare freeby for each. Anyone interested please email.
In-between I have Fulham v Chelsea, but I'm afriad that's sold out!
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Post by: tony on September 27, 2001, 07:19:07 PM
hi every-peeps life has to go on so i will see ya halfamix in the pow pub i'll be the short fat bloke with the big heart,  cheers tony.
tis week ive been playing greenslade live
the climax blues band 25 years of
little feat late night truck stop
ryan adams gold
and donovans brain eclipse and debris
all great albums
the new nektar cd has been released according to roye albrightons nektar 2000 site but i cant find any for sale any one know of anywhere to buy it    
cheers  tony
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on September 27, 2001, 07:24:05 PM
Hi the great half man.As i said he is a complete wind up merchant,he has even slagged TD off on the TD page and he loves em.It is nothing more than Glenfiddich orientated fun.I tell you what,he has the upmost respect for the superb MANBAND, hes a musician himself.
See you in cardiff on sat my friend,the critical,JL will not be there.Cant wait ti see the genius of MAN getting us all sweated up.
       Best regards    CJ.
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Post by: doh on September 27, 2001, 07:30:42 PM
not that i watch much MTV, but there is an eyeful of Jennifer Love Hewitt in the Enrique Iglesias video, Hero worth mentioning. well, i thought so.
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Post by: Astrophobia. on September 27, 2001, 08:43:19 PM
This weeks playlist.
Pat travers-pat travers.
Edgar broughton band-wasa wasa.
Rainbow-rainbow rising.
Barclay james harvest-octoberon.
Stereolab-emperor tomato ketchup.
Man-be good to yourself at least once a day.
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Post by: halfamix on September 27, 2001, 11:05:11 PM
Nice one Colin, I will see you in "The Prince of Wales" (Weatherspoons) on Sat afternoon not sure what time as coming over with my mate Mark, who is on driving duty, to Barry where we are staying then catching train to Cardiff.
I'll keep an eye out for yourself as long as its the TD T-Shirt you are wearing?
Hope to see a few of you guys there.
A good evening is forthcoming I can feel it in my water!! (or should that be liver)
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on September 27, 2001, 11:11:10 PM
Sorry Tony,I will see you there as well and I've done the Edgar Broughton tape for you. Keep eye out for Colin in his very smart Tangerine Dream T-Shirt and I'll be the long haired fellow not far away drinking cider!!!!! (Presuming I get there in one piece)
:cool:
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Post by: Arthurmix on September 27, 2001, 11:20:04 PM
This week I have been mainly listening to:
Tangerine Dream-The Great Wall of China
Van Der Graaf Generator-World Record
Man-Live at Reading 83
Broughtons-Superchip
E.L.P-Tarkus
Terry Riley-A Rainbow in Curved Air
Mmmmmh Nice
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on September 27, 2001, 11:25:15 PM
"Anyone who has intelligence may interpret the number of the beast.It is a man's number.This number is 666.

The Apocalypse of John, 13/18

Careful all we have invoked the Great Beast by hitting his number!!
:cool:
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Post by: standing2 on September 27, 2001, 11:54:34 PM
we?
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Post by: halfamix on September 28, 2001, 02:21:34 AM
OK Standing2 I have invoked the great Satan but he's just popped round to Marilyn Mansons house then he said he'd pop in and see you if he has the time!
:eek:
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 09:00:48 AM
Of course the great satan is me! ( great laffs ..cartoon music and sudden philisophic arguements that end with y). Otherwise why would I only have courage to table dance when falling down drunk. Okay, Lord givce me the strength to fart.  Give me the strengthth to see farts coming anf hold onloy bridge tickets  that were'nt dated tuesdat.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 09:15:56 AM
this is pretty much like civilized behaiour. Did you ever see Peter Gabriel when he was shy and innocent? Well, as former President Reagan said, He is still shy and innocent, "the lamb lies down on broadway" was a cry to our country that few heard, in fact I thought it wasa hillarius!  Windshiekdwipers cost only a few bucks...not your genitals.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 09:23:01 AM
Okay it's just as I expected...everyone loves eachother...the love of their life is in tune, jimi hendrix was a one handed gypsy banjo player named Mike. and my dog shit on the floor again.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 09:38:26 AM
...and the lamb lies down on broadway. Early morning Man had honor, ocean winds blow on the land. Movie palace is now undone, the all night watch men have had there fun. Sleepling cheaply on the midnight show, it's the same old ending time to go...GET OUT!!! and the lamb lies down
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 09:45:13 AM
I must revert to my childhood and see that 1974 was the year that held much strength.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 09:56:04 AM
echoes of the broadway everglades. With your mythycal Madannas, the cheerleader waves her cyanide wand , there's a scent of peach blossom and bitter almond. Carl chessman sniff's the air and leads the parade, he knows, innocent, you can bottle all you made. There's
Howard Hughes in blue suede shoes, smoking at the maajorettes, buying Winston cigarettes.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 10:00:01 AM
and as the song and dance begins, the children play at home...with
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 10:06:58 AM
your children are too smart for Peter Gabriel...let them eat cake. But I will always know the lights are bright on broadway...and will follow something forming in the air.
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Post by: Maurice chatigny on September 28, 2001, 10:20:22 AM
Here's what I have to say. Peter Gabriel and any music he was involved with was my music. So The lamb lies down with me.
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 28, 2001, 12:32:05 PM
Gabriel plaigirises Maurice sensation :eek:
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 28, 2001, 01:07:37 PM
Looking forward to shaking my Friday ARSE!! on Saturday night
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 28, 2001, 01:45:16 PM
666 is the number of the beast, but contarary to popular opinion the beast is .......MAN
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 28, 2001, 03:47:57 PM
A happy friday arse to all.Anuses to the fore.
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Post by: halfamix on September 28, 2001, 03:54:02 PM
Or 777 by Steve Hillages System 7 an excellant CD.
Only a day away now
:D
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 28, 2001, 03:56:36 PM
The Girls Prayer

Our men's cash
Which art on plastic
Hallowed be thy name
Thy Cartier watch
Thy Prada bag
In Harrods
As it is in Selfridges
Give us each day our Platinum Visa
And forgive us our overdraft
As we forgive those who stop our Mastercard
And lead us not into Next
And deliver us from Benetton
For thine is the Cartier, the Dior and the Armani
For Chanel No 5 and Eternity
Amex
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Post by: Allan Heron on September 28, 2001, 06:14:22 PM
if he lies with lambs is he welsh!
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Post by: halfamix on September 28, 2001, 11:47:02 PM
Hi Tony
See ya tomorrow but thought I'd post this incase I forget or get to drunk!
The new Nektar CD you are looking for is I presume "Prodical Son" well that and all Nektars Bellaphon LP's (CD's) are available from plastichead.com
:cool:
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on September 29, 2001, 12:59:34 AM
Hospital phoned me today with recent blood test result. Apparently I've got a lot of potassium in my blood. Not brilliant I gather. They asked me if I eat bananas, which I do, quite a lot. Told me not to. So, when the Boys sing those immortal lines at Cardiff, please
outsing them with "I don't like to eat bananas....." :-(
To those who are going, enjoy the gig, the M/cr contingent will be back.
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Post by: franks left nut on September 29, 2001, 03:23:51 AM
this months CDs:
Depech Mode-Violator
Beach Boys-Pet Sounds
James Taylor-JT
Led Zepplin-Early Days
Sade-Diamond Life
ABC-Millennium Collection
This is the kind of predictable selection you get from mail order clubs! DM is proof of what a synth can do (Policy of Truth)BB and JT to mellow out. ABC a silly indulgence I fell in love to somebody with once (When Smokey Sings)Our song...
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on September 30, 2001, 11:43:38 AM
Well chaps,thouroughly enjoyed last nights entertainment at the CIA.A good turnout and some top notch music,i was very impressed with Sassafras they did an excellent set.The racing cars and morty(aka angus young lookalike) were very enjoyable,what does it for me is that ride and the view intro by the undisputed kings of welsh rock MAN,as soon as they came on i was on a different planet.All in all a great nights entertainment,roll on the xmas party,Man reign supreme.
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on October 01, 2001, 08:38:38 AM
Steve Barstow!
Gong in Norway see: www.planetgong.co.uk
 I will see them in G?teborg in november 21.
- Regards Peter
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Post by: StEvil(2001) on October 01, 2001, 01:03:04 PM
Thanks Peter - and in Trondheim too. No excuses then...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 01, 2001, 02:07:29 PM
I hope everyone who went to the CIA on Saturday had a great time, before during and after the main event.

It seems that some people may be having trouble getting tickets for the Greasy Truckers 2001 show at the end of this month. I had originally thought that the gig would be at LA2, under the auspices of the Mean Fiddler organisation, but although it is still being promoted by them the show will actually be held at the Astoria, not LA2. I would hope that the larger venue is a promising sign.

Anyway, my confusion may have meant that some enquiries for tickets were misdirected to LA2, who 'know nothing' about the impending Truckers party. My apologies to those of you who were thus mislead, and my thanks to Sue Ledger for pointing out my human frailties (well, one of them anyway).

Info from 020 8963 0940
Tickets from 020 7344 0044

Or follow the weblink over yonder (it's a horrible 'flash' based site, but after a while you get the option to return to html sanity)

Anyone answering the rollcall yet?
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 01, 2001, 03:27:22 PM
Hello to Alan, Michael, Paul and family, Colin and the chaps, Halfamix and Mark. Anna, were you there - sorry we did not see you.

It was a really enjoyable day. Alan and I arrived at the CIA just at the end of Kimla Taz's set , so can't really comment about them. I had not heard a note by Sassafrass before Saturday. I thought they were ok but not really distinctive. They had plenty of support there and got a fine reception - Wheeling and Dealing and their cover of I am the Walrus were the highlights ( plus Terry Bennett's dual tambourine playing !).

The Racing Cars played a really well received set. There were 5 or so songs from the last album Bolt from the Blue - The Time has Come is a great set opener. Morty was on speed and in fine voice, Graham Williams' guitar work was highly individual and just excellent on My Guitar Gently Weeps. Tel's favorite equine single closed the set and they had an immediate encore, closing with Faith in You. A really fine party/good time band.

Man were next up - they played Ride, Love isn't Love, C'mon, Popemobile and Many are Called, and it was glorious. As Colin rightly says Man are just top class. It was a shame that it was a shortened set, but what a set. Micky and Deke were sparking off each other ( and covered each other perfectly when equipment gremlins kicked in ). Many are Called was sublime, and Jones' playing in C'mon was incredible. The comment of the night went to Paul for his thought that the transition from Love isn't Love to C'mon " might just cause confusion for the casual observer " !!  

I caught 5 songs from Budgie before the M4 beckoned; Panzer divisions got destroyed and it was loud and well delivered but a bit lacking in subtlety. There were a lot of Budgie fans there on the night though and they gave them an excellent reception though. (I would not like to owe money to Budgie's drummer - scary man in appearance).

Great effort by the promoters to put on such a diverse bill and I hope their hard work and guts turned a profit. The bar ran dry of draught so the venue would have done well.
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Post by: halfamix on October 01, 2001, 04:04:19 PM
My head still hurts...
What a night I really enjoyed myself and was very very drunk at the time!
It was a pleasure to meet you Colin,Tony,Michael and others and I've certainly got some listening to do now with all those CD's and tapes that Colin and Tony kindly did for me.
It was as I thought and the Great MAN blew all off stage with a blinder of a set and we drank the place dry of all beer,lager,cider and Guinness as well (they borrowed 6 barrels from a pub around the corner but that didn't last long)
:cool:
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Post by: Colin Russell on October 01, 2001, 04:43:15 PM
Glad you guys enjoyed Saturday. Am looking forward to truckers, I am on the roll call Jules.I hope there is plenty of beer. Venue for beforehand?

Gong are at the RFH this Wednesday supporting the Orb. And Hawkwind playng same next Wednesday. Both original Greasy truckers albeit different years.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on October 01, 2001, 08:16:45 PM
It was great to see Rob and Alan at the CIA on Saturday. I thought Sassafras were good, just like i remembered them sounding, Racing cars were OK Budgie were just LOUD. I used to be a fan in my youth, but on Saturday it sounded like a parody of an american heavy metal band.

Man's set, although short, was exellent. I stood by Rob and Alan in front of Deke,instead of my usual position in front of Micky. I now think that Deke should be offered a full time job in the band, as he really assists Micky in sounding even more fantastic. Seriously though a great set, only Martin seemed a bit subdued, but given the time constraints that was understandable. Roll on Greasy truckers.
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Post by: Alan Davies on October 01, 2001, 09:42:45 PM
For those who missed Saturday in Cardiff you missed a good one. Great to see Rob, Paul, Colin J, Halfamix & friend whose name escapes me and Michael. Glad to say I did my bit to help drain the bar and had a wobbly walk back to the hotel after some witnessing some excellent music. Can't comment on Kimla Taz except to say that a Hendrix style Welsh National anthem seemed a shade corny. Sassafras were good, but not as good as I remembered from the seventies. I'd never seen Racing Cars before but had high expectations based on Rob's description of the guitarist and the singer. Rob understated them. I thought they were superb. As a front man I'd say that Morty gives even the great Roger Chapman a run for his money. Man were brilliant but seemed constrained time wise. The playing was of its usual high quality but never quite caught fire. They are not a band who should be relegated to a support slot. Budgie were a very good metal band played a very enjoyable set and were very well received. A very good value for money gig.
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Post by: halfamix on October 02, 2001, 01:40:04 AM
Just heard through the grape vine that the Sassafras frontman (read demon with two tamborines) can hardly move after Saturday! He gave it his all and is now as stiff as a board and hurting!!
That was the first time I have seen them since 1978! MAN were easily the best band of the night shame they weren't on a bit longer. I have to admit to drinking all the cider in the venue by myself!
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on October 02, 2001, 01:48:52 AM
Well....At least my head is telling me I had drunk all the cider and the lack of any cash-money in wallet proved the point!
Colin J, thanks for all the Tangerine Dream stuff I'm listening to the triple CD of "The Keep" at this moment.
:cool:
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 03:28:08 AM
Friday the 13th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:26:44 AM
Not to say..and ....so we have to describe the world. ANd if I die before. Tehlenam that describe anything are the men that ar e arseinall aithihng yiu. and ao we decideed to be the arse: and we were one eith theso time meant something. Friday the 13th.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:33:25 AM
ehre is my post. reliugion is money and polotics is where the losers are at. Bill gates gives money to alll,becuse he is the messiah. Bioll9ons are serves Bill loves you.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:40:28 AM
and so my ass flew to the wind. and Don Carlos found some peyote.the thing is I would forever feel embarassment. I never felt comfort with anyone..0
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:46:20 AM
but Don Carlos could fly. And he flew. Peyoter of erspectivs. buttons upon Don...ayeyote.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:48:52 AM
walking in the dsert. picking up a button. chewing a perspective. peyotre of god because my mother can't remember her own name.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:51:01 AM
so scoop a load with m brother. oh nice.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:53:56 AM
and then the one.. the hero.. would play you.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 04:58:29 AM
so what if anyone parses the evoolution of me. My time is spemt. Goodbye Mrs goodbarspinchter afamiliamaniahomosmiliametergod.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 05:06:07 AM
would anmyone remembner me or you beyond the caskets dawn or eve of worrows mistsken sunsdewt. however you mix it enjoy that last forever. Caust no matters how long it last, manst will not forever hvest Mickey nor Deke.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 05:13:15 AM
drunk again... afraid to face myself for days. Born a coward to my own heart. SOme love me more than I could love myself....that was Kero..scene. Deke
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Post by: Wily Coyote on October 02, 2001, 05:15:28 AM
walking in the dsert. picking up a button. chewing a perspective. peyotre of god because my mother can't remember her own name.
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Post by: Why me on October 02, 2001, 05:16:09 AM
walking in the dsert. picking up a button. chewing a perspective. peyotre of god because my mother can't remember her own name.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 02, 2001, 05:20:28 AM
Ther's nothing to do but listen to "C'mon" from "Back into the Future." or Fiday the 13th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: halfamix on October 02, 2001, 04:34:40 PM
Maurice I hope you're heads not to bad today, looks like you had an interesting night last night?????
:cool:
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Post by: Beefheart on October 02, 2001, 09:14:48 PM
CARDIFF - just got back and have to say MAN were great, a really rocking set which should have been longer & top of the bill. Budgie were a big diss - BORING! (cant say that about Racing Cars or Sassafrass!). I am not the only person who thought they were boring. One woman was so desparate to get away fromt he noize she dragged me into the ladies toilets and asked me to shag her. Of course I obliged and it WAS better than Budgie!
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Post by: Burke Shelley on October 03, 2001, 10:12:15 AM
That was no woman, you bastard - that was my wife!!
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Post by: Freddie Starr on October 03, 2001, 11:00:09 AM
Who ate my Budgie?
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Post by: King Dong on October 03, 2001, 02:23:48 PM
No Burke...I was doing your wife!
Beefheart was a bit pissed and shagged Mrs Mop (The CIA cleaner) she was only in the bog cleaning up puke when Mr Beef attacked her from behind but she had the best night of her 65yrs!!
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on October 03, 2001, 02:31:00 PM
Hi All
Colin thanks for the three CD soundtrack to "The Keep" does your third disc have a problem as the one you kindly did for me seems to cut off on various tracks and just seems to behave strangly in my CD player!!!! Not moaning my friend just interested if your original copy is the same (mind you its not the worst boot that I've heard; I have a VDGG bootleg on CD which runs at the wrong speed!!!)
:cool:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on October 03, 2001, 07:12:52 PM
Hello Half mix(Steve).Just playing disc 3
now,and it seems a few tracks to end quite suddenly,obviously this is the way it was put on disc.I find this collection an absolute treat,much better than shelling out ?100 nicker for the TDI
original on ebay aaarrggghhh.Some of the sound quality on the discs is superb,Eg
Heritage survival,and the superb longer version Rush of joy,the excellent Einsatz
commandos(remix),Dreamscape and the wicked sound of deadly silver crosses.
There again you have the first mix of gloria,which like several others,leave a lot to be desired in the sound stakes,obviously culled from dodgy boot recordings.Anyway hope you enjoyed the CIA,what a cracking night,the chuff and beer in full flow,until they ran out.We hit the cider then which was a hefty ?2.50 but went down a treat.The sad part of the evening was the curtailed set by  the geniuses of welsh rock MAN.H
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on October 03, 2001, 07:12:54 PM
Hello Half mix(Steve).Just playing disc 3
now,and it seems a few tracks to end quite suddenly,obviously this is the way it was put on disc.I find this collection an absolute treat,much better than shelling out ?100 nicker for the TDI
original on ebay aaarrggghhh.Some of the sound quality on the discs is superb,Eg
Heritage survival,and the superb longer version Rush of joy,the excellent Einsatz
commandos(remix),Dreamscape and the wicked sound of deadly silver crosses.
There again you have the first mix of gloria,which like several others,leave a lot to be desired in the sound stakes,obviously culled from dodgy boot recordings.Anyway hope you enjoyed the CIA,what a cracking night,the chuff and beer in full flow,until they ran out.We hit the cider then which was a hefty ?2.50 but went down a treat.The sad part of the evening was the curtailed set by  the geniuses of welsh rock MAN.H
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on October 03, 2001, 07:12:56 PM
Hello Half mix(Steve).Just playing disc 3
now,and it seems a few tracks to end quite suddenly,obviously this is the way it was put on disc.I find this collection an absolute treat,much better than shelling out ?100 nicker for the TDI
original on ebay aaarrggghhh.Some of the sound quality on the discs is superb,Eg
Heritage survival,and the superb longer version Rush of joy,the excellent Einsatz
commandos(remix),Dreamscape and the wicked sound of deadly silver crosses.
There again you have the first mix of gloria,which like several others,leave a lot to be desired in the sound stakes,obviously culled from dodgy boot recordings.Anyway hope you enjoyed the CIA,what a cracking night,the chuff and beer in full flow,until they ran out.We hit the cider then which was a hefty ?2.50 but went down a treat.The sad part of the evening was the curtailed set by  the geniuses of welsh rock MAN.H
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on October 03, 2001, 07:12:56 PM
Hello Half mix(Steve).Just playing disc 3
now,and it seems a few tracks to end quite suddenly,obviously this is the way it was put on disc.I find this collection an absolute treat,much better than shelling out ?100 nicker for the TDI
original on ebay aaarrggghhh.Some of the sound quality on the discs is superb,Eg
Heritage survival,and the superb longer version Rush of joy,the excellent Einsatz
commandos(remix),Dreamscape and the wicked sound of deadly silver crosses.
There again you have the first mix of gloria,which like several others,leave a lot to be desired in the sound stakes,obviously culled from dodgy boot recordings.Anyway hope you enjoyed the CIA,what a cracking night,the chuff and beer in full flow,until they ran out.We hit the cider then which was a hefty ?2.50 but went down a treat.The sad part of the evening was the curtailed set by  the geniuses of welsh rock MAN.H
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Post by: Colin Jouxson(continued). on October 03, 2001, 07:19:57 PM
How the hell they were not top of the bill defies belief,this superb band were in a league of their own,just like the mighty Leeds united-top of the premier league.MAN-they should be knighted now.
Just imagine,Sir micky jones,get a nice ring to it has that.
    Best regards  CJ. :P
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Post by: Colin J on October 03, 2001, 07:23:18 PM
Bloody hell,Sorry chaps,dont know what happened there.:p
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Post by: CJ on October 03, 2001, 07:30:50 PM
Half mix,track 11 Removing the silver cross is extremely dodgy.Seems to have come from a tape source if you listen.
Seems like someone is continually fast forwarding it?.  STRANGE,:mad:
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Post by: Beefheart on October 03, 2001, 10:04:01 PM
KING DONG may have a point there. I had drunk over ?20worth of Jack Daniels (four glasses I think!).
It could have been Mrs Mop, but its hard to say. It was dark when she grabbed hold of me and by the time we were in the light, her head was down the pan, so I didnt see it.
She had a loverly bum though....
What a great night out.
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Post by: Owen/Kardiff on October 03, 2001, 10:52:40 PM
Legends of Welsh Rock at the Arena. Budgie headlining???? Uh-oh.
They were er, loud. But that was about it.
Talk about an anticlimax.
Long live the Manband.
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Post by: killerbudgieeatsman on October 04, 2001, 03:45:09 PM
Man were OK I suppose but Budgie ruled the roost at the CIA. As for Man being top of the bill - hah - the Budg fans outnumbered them at least 5 to 1.

Roll on Round 2 !!

Respect really though. I grudgingly enjoyed Man with the help of a few not quite yet legal substances and a skinfull of cider !
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Post by: Chris on October 04, 2001, 04:19:59 PM
I am trying to get a copy of 'spunk rock'
I think it was about 1972 and had a playing time of approx 22 mins can anyone help me????
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 04, 2001, 05:15:05 PM
From the album Greasy Truckers Party, the Man tracks (Angel Easy and Spunk Rock) are available on an album via Eagle Records.  Available from good record stores or from the band website link aside
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Post by: halfamix on October 04, 2001, 06:08:07 PM
Hi All.
Colin (The Great Astro man) be careful when talking about "The Keep" on the TD board as they have deleated my messages that refer to the 'boot'! Thanks for the info on the triple CDr that you did for me, it looks like we will have to wait a long time for the TDI official release. If they spent more time sorting out the legal wrangles with the soundtrack rather than deleating harmless messages from fans,more people might be able to listen to this great peice of music.
By the way the headache from Saturday has finally gone! I had not drunk since January and hit the sauce hard again in Cardiff but what a night.
Michael I hope you are giving MAN the excellant write up they deserve for "Classic Rock"
Again it was nice to meet you all.
Peace and Love
:cool:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 04, 2001, 06:59:58 PM
Budgie top the bill?Get real Killer.They are not in the same league as the mighty MAN,go back and listen to your Rose tattoo albums,Now thats your league,Complete ogwash.Man, without doubt the worlds greatest pychodelic rockers.
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Post by: Martin Ace's large snout. on October 04, 2001, 08:22:06 PM
Man blew them all away,5 tracks or not.
They are the greatest.Put your budgies back in the cage.
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Post by: tony on October 04, 2001, 08:44:47 PM
this week i have mostly not played any budgie..... but i have played edgar broughton small groupwork(thanks halfamix its great)
wishbone ash argus
the greatful dead live/dead
john martyn solid air
and after there great show at cardiff  ive played man live at the star club twice!! next week i mostly wont be playing any budgie either.
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Post by: beaneyedbug on October 05, 2001, 12:44:40 AM
Man: The best presti digitators this side of Satori. that is all.
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Post by: AKA 44 on October 05, 2001, 01:33:25 AM
Jules wouldn't delete our messages, would he? I don't think I want to find out. (BTW, keeping track of AKA's?)
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on October 05, 2001, 09:14:11 AM
The Clwb Ifor Bach website is not showing a ticket price for the Man gig (or for that matter any of the 'Radio 2 in Cardiff' gigs) next Thursday - as it is a BBC Radio 2 sponsored event, does this mean that tickets are free and if so, does anyone know how to get hold of them?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 05, 2001, 11:50:59 AM
Message deletions? This is an unmoderated message board, you can say whatever you want about whatever you want.

Of course I have to reserve the right to expunge (or more likely to modify) posts that break the terms of my web-hosting agreement, but this simply boils down to preserving principles of common decency, respect and tolerance of people who hold different views.

It's your bulletin board, populated with posts from anyone and everyone who cares to make a contribution to the debate (whatever it might be).

If anyone's ever offended by anything that's said on this board, then just e-mail me with your comments. I don't guarantee to agree with you, but most issues can be worked out with honour on all sides.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 05, 2001, 11:54:59 AM
Kevin, does this mean you're going to the gig next Thursday? If so I'll bring your V30K garment with me. The shops round here have decided winter's arrived, so no t-shirt. You'll have to make do with a V30K sweatshirt instead. Fair enough?

:eek:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 05, 2001, 01:23:18 PM
I just rang Clwb Ifor Bach and they confirm that entry next Thursday is free. I suspect there might still be a need to become a club member (for the princely sum of ?1). Sounds like an excellent deal to me. What are the bar prices like?

:D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 05, 2001, 01:43:17 PM
Anyone seen a Breadfan around here? I could eat a horse (burp!)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 05, 2001, 02:35:55 PM
Jules - yes, I'll be there on Thursday. A sweatshirt sounds good, although I'm not so sure winter has arrived just yet - it's a glorious day down here in Cheltenham! When was the last time a Man gig had free admission - is this a first?
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 05, 2001, 03:20:29 PM
According to the Virtual Cardiff site a Radio 2 Fringe festival micro-site is planned which may feature streaming of gigs at Clwb Ifor Bach. Has anyone seen any press reviews of last Saturday ? The Western Mail seems to have ignored it although I would have expected something in the Echo - Wren, Colin or Owen have you spotted any coverage ? I shall buck the trend of this Board and buy some Budgie CDs this weekend !
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 05, 2001, 03:43:27 PM
Rob - there's a good few Tangerine Dream CD's you should be looking up before you even dream of Budgie.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 05, 2001, 04:31:20 PM
I had a quick look earlier on the Budgie bulletin board via the Sabre Dance site. Understandably their set was well received by the Budgie faithful, although there was one comment about the late start being due to "Man outstaying their welcome" !
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Post by: Tweety Pie on October 05, 2001, 05:17:53 PM
I tort I taw a putty tat....
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 05, 2001, 07:45:41 PM
Hello all. Say what you like,MAN are the greatest,I personally dont give a hoot what you people got to say.Man, WITHOUT DOUBT THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME, you doubters know its true.Jones Leonard,Ace
AAARRRGGGHHH im coming in my pants,the untouchables Wales greatest of all time.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 05, 2001, 07:59:58 PM
This weeks playlist.
1,Kate bush-hounds of love
2,patti smith -live 79(boot).
3,Killing Joke -Killing joke
4,Basement 5- basement 5
5,Captain beefheart-shiny beast
6,Doobie brothers-minute by minute
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 05, 2001, 09:11:32 PM
Sorry chaps, but i got to say it.Kate Bush is the most beautiful women i have ever seen,Stunning.
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Post by: Smiley Bananna on October 06, 2001, 12:47:00 AM
Hello all.

I was there on Saturday and had an exceptionally jolly time!!  Sassafras and Racing Cars were definitely worth seeing.  Thoroughly enjoyed them.  

For the Manband, though, there was no option but to get off our backsides and make a bee-line for the front row.  So, spent their set happily squished up against the railings - close enough to clock an eyeful of Mr Ace's footwear.  If only they HAD outstayed their welcome...

Budgie. Didn't Deke once say something about certain music inducing toothache?  Sheeesh!!

Called into the PoW earlier on in the day but didn't see any likely looking suspects so went off for a stroll in the sunshine.  At the Arena I did spot somebody in a Tangerine Dream t-shirt and (during Man's set) I thought I saw you Rob.  I said hello anyway!  Oh, and I saw Beefheart - looking rather flushed!!  Hope you enjoyed your birthday, Wren.

A million thanks to Phil.

Anna
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 10:44:13 AM
You know that I can only post when I've sufficiently destroyed that person named Maurice, usually 8 beers is the beginning. And forever In this world of drunkiness, I will float. And I'm hovering like a fly, waiting for the windshield on the freeway.
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Post by: Something solid forming in the on October 06, 2001, 10:54:58 AM
air. And the wall of death is lowered in Time Sqaure. No one seems to care, they carry on as if nothing were there. The wind is blowing harder now, blowing dust into my eyes. The dust settles on my skin making a crust I can not move in...And I'm hovering like a fly, waiting for the windshield on a freeway...are these psychedelic lyrics or what? the wind blow's a crust he can't move in until he hover's like a fly!
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Post by: Echoes of the broadway evergla on October 06, 2001, 11:07:16 AM
Echoes of the Broadway Everglades. With your mythical madonnas still waqlking in her shade. Lenny Bruce declares a truce(mumble the page is on a ham) Marhall McLuen caual viewin', head bearied in the sand! There's Howard Hughes in blue suede shoes, smiling at the majorettes smoking Winston cigarettes....and so how much do I have to post to convince you that The Lamb Lies Down is a song.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 11:12:09 AM
free to flutter in memory of my wasted wings.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 11:25:38 AM
It's the last great adventure left to mankind. Screams a drooping lady, offering her dream dolls at less then extorionist prices. As as the notes and coins, are taken out, I'm taken in, to the factory floor.  For the grand parade of lifeless packgeing, they're ready to use...
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 11:32:37 AM
I see faces and traces of home..Back in New York City. We're only as strong as the weekest link in the chain. you say i must i must be crazy because i don't care who i hit.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 11:34:47 AM
off we go... you can not buy protection from the way I feel.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 11:41:29 AM
I'm counting out time ....Lamb Lies Down (1974...the best album of all time).
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 11:47:36 AM
I'm counting out time ....Lamb Lies Down (1974...the best album of all time)...besides C'mon and Jam up Jelly Tight from "Back Into the Future"
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 12:00:50 PM
and I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a country man than a town man. But I'd give you all of my dreams, if you'd help me, find the door.  The door that doesen't lead me back here, but down here I'm so alone with my fear. My father to the left of me, my mother to the right.And I need someone to believe in. I'd give you all of my dreams if you's help me.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 12:07:59 PM
I still say try "Secret Agent Man" Deke.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 06, 2001, 12:12:09 PM
and so while the equestrians practice on fields of everglades forgotten, it's the same old ending, get out.
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Post by: halfamix on October 06, 2001, 05:22:00 PM
Hi All
The best dressed fellows last Saturday at Cardiff where without doubt Colin and myself in the Tangerine Dream T-Shirts with the exception of any person wearing any MAN items!
Just had a look at what Budgie I had on vinyl and the title of one of their albums is quite apt: "Never turn your back on a Friend" or they will shaft ya up the arse "Man Outstaying their welcome" ha ha ha
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on October 06, 2001, 05:31:14 PM
Just spoken to Ozzy who has run out of Doves for his head biting off stage act.
Informed him that MAN fans could supply a couple of Budgies as stand ins!!!
After a large bill arrived on my doormat-"Flumph" I had to listen to
Deke Leonard-"Iceberg" yes yes yes
Rare Bird-"Epic Forest"
Tim Blake-"Tide of the Century"
Tangerine Dream-"Great Wall of China"
Kate Bush-"Red Shoes"
Mmmmh Kate in 5" red high heels (Calm down halfamix)
Peace to All
:cool:
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Post by: The Mellotrom messiah. on October 06, 2001, 08:11:53 PM
Just met the MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE AT THE
STRAND OF NIGHTMARES,oh so lovely ,ah bisto.
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Post by: The Mellotron Messiah. on October 06, 2001, 08:13:51 PM
Just met the MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE AT THE STRAND OF NIGHTMARES,  AH BISTO.
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Post by: tony on October 06, 2001, 09:03:27 PM
just had a curry, got a case of holsen pils and now were about to play the mighty man dvd ahhh bliss if yer cant see em live every saturday this is the next best thing ohh and not a budgie in sight..cheers every one have a great weekend cheers tony.
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Post by: killerbudgie eats man on October 06, 2001, 09:49:55 PM
Ahh !!

You're just jealous guys because Man had to open for the Mighty Budgie. People were nodding off in the seats before the feathered ones hit the stage.

Quite agree about Kate Bush though !
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Post by: Pilots of purple twilight. on October 06, 2001, 09:57:03 PM
Cant beat a bit of BUSH.
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Post by: Beefheart on October 06, 2001, 11:43:34 PM
A bush in the hand is sure worth 2 budgies.

But gimme a bird in the bog anyday....it was justabout this time last week.....
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 07, 2001, 12:41:29 AM
On the Archive tonight I've just posted m'learned friend Rob Davies' review of last weekend's gig. A sprinkling of photos from Mike Peach and Bommaz round it out nicely.

Budgie got a mention too.
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Post by: Tel on October 07, 2001, 01:19:53 AM
Halfamix - Now there is a name from the past - Rare Bird. I still have the original 45rpm version of Sympathy somewhere.
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Post by: Tel on October 07, 2001, 01:21:47 AM
Maurice abandon's Camel - shock horror probe!!!
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Post by: halfamix on October 07, 2001, 03:32:08 AM
Excellant Tony
Thanks for the Edgar Broughton CDR I just gave it another spin and the unreleased tracks which I had never heard are excellant, as mentioned earlier I have all Edgars LP's on vinyl, does anyone know what the extra tracks are on the "Superchip" CD issue?
Tel, Rare Bird are a most excellant band and very underrated again I have all this bands vinyl LP releases and lots of offshoot LP's. In fact a Rare Bird has to be so much better than a 'common or garden' Budgie!!
:cool: Buds and bongs all night long
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Post by: Mike Burgess on October 07, 2001, 09:59:27 AM
Am I the only one here who enjoyed both Man And Budgie?!  It IS possible. I even own a TD album or too, though maybe I shouldlnt have mentioned that.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on October 07, 2001, 06:54:53 PM
Nice report Rob D, particularly your recognition of the Jones sniff. I've been intrigued by it for some time - didn't Sir MJ have a nose job a few years back? Did this cause the sniff? Was the sniff there before because I don't remember seeing it? Doesn't seem to appear on the Bananas video (no DVD yet) nor the Roundhouse video (from what I remember because Neil F has had it for the last year or so and still not got it back!)
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Post by: colin russell on October 07, 2001, 10:49:25 PM
The hawkwind site is denying any official  connection with the greasy truckers event at the Astoria and states that some of the advertised bands will not be playing. Blagging may well be part of the  industry but if we are left with another albert hall scenario is there a chance that Man could play for the whole evening. It would possibly be preferable to the original idea anyway.b
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 08, 2001, 03:08:20 PM
Hawkwind are not, and never have been, associated with the Greasy Truckers 2001 event on October 21st, so while the words on the 'official' Hawks site at http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/hw_x.htm are strictly speaking true, that doesn't actually make them relevant.


Nik Turner and the other members of the Hawkestra are independent of Hawkwind, and Nik has confirmed today that he and his band are appearing. Mick Farren will also be there (although some Deviants may not as they would have to fly over from the USA), and Man (of course) will be there.

The promoters have confirmed today that the event is going ahead, and why not, as there's been no change to the billing at all?

The current confusion appears to derive from the antagonism that various current and ex Hawks members seem to feel for each other. I understand it's also this that has prompted www.hawkwind.com (run by a volunteer web-master who didn't feel any need to toe the party line) to close down, which is a great shame under the circumstances.

As Hawkwind have their own show at the Festival Hall (what will they do with all those violins and ballet shoes?) to worry about, I'd suggest that attempts to disrupt the Astoria show be seen in that light.

Keep an eye open here for any further developments on the story. If anyone else gets any information I'm sure we'd all be grateful if it was shared.

In the meantime, don't forget to order your tickets via the Mean Fiddler's website, which is linked at the left.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 08, 2001, 04:09:33 PM
Great review from Cardiff Rob. It's refreshing to see my name in the same paragraph as Man without being preceded by 'he's not the' and followed by 'he used to be'.

Roll on Greasy Truckers. I hope we get more than a 'Golden Hour of Man'.
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Post by: halfamix on October 08, 2001, 05:01:02 PM
Hi All
I have just e-mailed and got a reply from Judge Trev of Inner City Unit who are playing at "The Greasy Truckers"
As far as he knows the Hawkestra line up is as follows:
The Mighty Thunder Rider (Nik Turner)
Terry Ollis.        The Calverts
Del Dettmar.        Ron Tree
Thomas Crimble.     Martin Griffin
Steve Swindells.    Adrian Shaw
Dave Anderson.      Captain Rizz
Mik Slattery.       Jerry Richards
Invited but not confirmed
Lemmy.              Dik Mik
Paul Rudolf.        Michael Moorcock
Alan Powell.        Danny Thompson

He also states that the ICU lineup is the original one that used to play at the mighty Stonehenge Free Festival in the 70's and early 80's
Hope that helps
See ya
:cool:
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Post by: colin russell on October 08, 2001, 07:21:42 PM
bloody good news. Sorry if I started a goose.see you there
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 08, 2001, 07:45:07 PM
The Virtual Cardiff Radio 2 Micro site has Man playing at Clwb Ifor Bach on Thursday but not on the Coal Porters bill - they have a separate gig at Fat Sams on the same night. Presumably a full set in prospect then. There is a list of the bands playing at the festival with short biographies - the Man one is pretty good.
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Post by: Peter Currie on October 09, 2001, 01:33:26 AM
Skinner's Rats (who were the band component of the Blackheath Foot and Deathmen) are still alive and well and have contacted the Astoria org re the GTII concert. For those of you who were there the first time, they came and got us when the power went off as we were the only accoustic band in the Roundhouse. Thats why our mugshots are on the cover but no track on the vinyl. We opened (to two gaslamps and  several hundred cigarette lighters) with...well you may remember... but we'll do it again if the concert comes off. Don't want to spoil the surprise!

Blossom & the Bishop of Skinner's Rats. 31 years continuous fiddle and accordion music and still knocking it out.
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Post by: Rover on October 09, 2001, 09:24:12 AM
I note from virtual cardiff: "Further releases, this time featuring archive live material recorded during MAN's 1970's tours of the United States are also anticipated. "
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 09, 2001, 02:21:09 PM
Yup, still anticipated even eighteen months or so after the words were originally written. Any news from Paul then Ron?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 09, 2001, 07:59:32 PM
I talked to Paul about this just the other day. It's really in his hands, as he's got to put in the time, and put up the money. I've just written Ace and asked him to contact Paul. Anything to get this moving.

Meanwhile, I've been helping Malcolm sort out some press for retail and radio mailing. He's following through with the dirty business of putting our your own record. Anyone who doesn't have this yet, should get on the case. Best Album Of The Year....

Malc's agreed to have a listen to some demos I've been trying to puzzle out. Much to my surprise, when I started digging around, I came up with a tune I don't remember recording. I was just trying to relearn it. It's a rocker.

The Brains are getting ready for our first gig in a year. That would be tonight. We've revamped the set from last time. There are four of the brand new songs: Colter and I each have two. We're also doing one of Jeff"s called Crystal Palace. This takes the place of Central Services in the set: the E Jam. Three of the Shambaholic songs are on the set list this time out: Kew Observatory, Make A Noise, and Pollyanna. Kew has never been performed live, so this is exciting. As it's John Lennon's b'day, we've pulled out Rain, a song we've done in the past.

Now if Marie let's Jules out to play, we will be posting Splaat #10, which will have the first of the "lost" songs from Eclipse And Debris.

Wish I was going to some of the gigs you lucky ones have got to see.

ron

ps: hi Maurice. good to see you back to normal
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 10, 2001, 12:20:54 AM
Hey whaddya know? I got out to play, so the latest Brain's Splaat, number ten, is loaded, with several lovely new MP3's to download.

Hope the Zebra below gig goes well Ron.
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 01:53:02 AM
the Zebra Below gig with Kinski was an all around sucess. The show drew a nice crowd (it's a small club in the basement of the old Bozeman Hotel). I was a but concerned as there was the Jazz Mandolin Project gig in town too.

Without Treece to lend a hand, we reworked the set list. As it was John Lennon's birthday, we opened with Rain. Next up was one of the new ones. Loving Indifference was put together by the whole band, though the title and lyrics are mine. I almost derailed that one cause I liked the sound of the first chord so much, I played it twice the usual length. Being sharp players, everyone hung with me. I was worried about remembering the lyrics, but I think I got most of them correct.

It seemed too early in the set to play Cloud Maker, so I called for Colter's rocker, All Fall Down. That one got peoples attention. Jules like that one too. It was back to me for Kew Observatory. This track from Shambaholic has never been played live. Needless to say it was either going to work, or crash and burn. Not only did we get through the tricky intro bit, but I then managed to sing it on key.

Okay, now the airy ballad, from Colter, Cloud Maker. We recorded this one last fall when Treece was here rehearsing for Terrastock. Megan Pickerel seems to have become the newest member of the Brains. Her voice is a major part of the recording of Cloud Maker, and on stage the four part harmonies filled out the sound. I sat at the keyboards for this one. It was yet another of the new ones up next. Punch Wax Circus has been around in several arrangements since the early 90's. We cut a version during the early stages of the Tiny Crust Sessions, which may now see the light. Once I explained to Colter that it was sort of like a Kinks song, he got right on with it.

I'd always wanted to play Jeff's song, Crystal Palace. It's on the last Racketship cd, and it goes down well at their gigs. As it's a one chord jam in E, it's replaced Central Services in the set. Megan plays e-bow on this one and sings with Jeff. I know it might seem like over kill, but I love the sound of three guitars playing an arrangement. We've recorded a great version of this two weeks ago. I'm hoping Jeff will let us put it one the next album. Otherwise, it'll have to wait for the box set. It proves to be one of the set's highlights, and a favorite in the Kinski kamp.

We finish up the short set with a varaiation on our medley. Megan moved over to the keyboard station for this segment of the show. We start off with Pollyanna Disillusioned, another one of the Shambaholic songs (though it appeared in a rerecorded version on Eclipse). As on the original Shambaholic cd, it segued into Make A Noise Quietly. Though I wrote this one too, Colter has made it his own. This then melted into the raga version of Days Playing Perky Pat that this line up has been playing. As usual, it's over all too soon. 45 minutes seems to be just about enough.

There's a quick change over despite the loads of gear both Kinski and ourselves have to move. Kinski play in that droney Terrastock style that some of you may know. They surprise us with a couple of vocals, and their sheer volume. The crowd loves them, though most have never seem anything like this. The get two encores, and a big roll of cash for their trouble.

The club manager is well impressed with the production, and assures me I can book  more bands as long as the Brain will open.:D
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 10:31:42 AM
A happy arse to all. I am glad to see Ron still about. I sit within my reach a minidisk transfer of the "July 14,2000 KGLT 91.9 FM tribute to Sean Donahue" cassette that he so very generously sent to me. I have still to find a suitable repayment, scoundrel that I am. My apologies to all for being the ranting drunk next door. Now listening to the sounds of Beserkley Records...Earthquake "Rocking The World". These would be good ones for Man to re-do...?
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 10:37:26 AM
Okay I'll cut it short, but "Get your Kicks on Route 66" would be an ideal Man/Helps song. (I.E. see Earthquakes version on Beserkley's "Rocking The World" release circa 1975. Recorded on Folsom street in San Francisco. Dem dare Slow Motion daze.
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 10:48:10 AM
Aw shit I'm sorry for abundant verbiage, but I just got to recommend this. Earthquake is the band ,1975 is the year, San Francisco is the state (city) of mind, and "Rocking The World" is the album. IF you are a Man fan You WILL love it guaranteed! (this is Rock'n Roll at it's best!)

Love Mo

belated birthday greetings to Anna and Mickey (just because).

P.S.S.  Maurice still loves all that pretentious King Crimson, Yes, Camel type crap.
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 10:57:22 AM
Double Arse! You know me I can't keep mey trap shut. I love your Prime Minister, Tony Blair, but this may (will) give a different perspective on tolerance and why Maurice is Unca Sam's Bitch. (The truth may lie somewhere in between or totally outside all our boundaries of imagination).

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq1/000719.htm
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 11:09:17 AM
Shit, I can't stop...alchohol has NO INHIBITIONS even with your stinking PROHIBITION (wrong year...sorry...I thought we were in 1930). Shit, I can't remember why I started this post....Oh yeah..Earthquake reminds me of Humble Pie..."30 daze in the hole."..okay I guess that's it.
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 11:19:26 AM
Just pulled out "Steve Marriott  Live at Dingwalls"  You Great Britaineers have all the fun...Man return to U.S.Asap.
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Post by: Ron S on October 11, 2001, 11:23:32 AM
I don't need no doctor!!.....(what d'you mean it's debatable!) Humble Pie!
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Post by: halfamix on October 11, 2001, 01:21:06 PM
Humble Pie are responsible for one of the greatest Live LP's ever made "Performance-Rockin the Fillmore" is just so good it hurts!
Maurice what do you mean? "King Crimson pretentious" Now where's my copy of "In the Court of the Crimson King" I fancy a blast of "21st Century Schizoid Man" to wake me up
:cool:
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Post by: Rover on October 11, 2001, 01:50:39 PM
I think the Helps did do Route 66 way back when. Nice lyrics...Don't forget Winona, Kingman, Barstow, San Bernandino.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 11, 2001, 04:14:44 PM
Still alive and kickin', and looking forward to tonight's gig at the Clwb Ifor Bach. 9:30 kick-off for the band, but doors are open from around now apparently.

Hope to see some of you there.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 11, 2001, 04:15:26 PM
And that'll be post 800 on the board too then.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 11, 2001, 05:12:05 PM
There are a couple Earthquake/Man connections.  Man opened for Earthquake the night Earthquake recorded their live album (Man's set was broadcast locally).  Also, Guitarist/Keyboard Gary Phillips was in Copperhead with John Cipollina before joining Earthquake.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 11, 2001, 05:15:11 PM
Rover: It was close relation Sam Apple Pie that recorded "...Winona, Kingman, Barstow, San Bernandino...".
Wasn't there talk of a possible Live Stream of the gig tonight??
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Post by: Rover on October 11, 2001, 05:42:02 PM
Was it Johnny B Goode then and nowt "Winona, Kingman, Barstow, San Bernandino..."?
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 11, 2001, 05:55:51 PM
Correct - BBC session from 72 I think..
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Post by: StEvil2001 on October 11, 2001, 05:58:39 PM
Rover: Should we introduce ourselves on the Barstow email list..have you noticed the recent surge of emails after none for several months?
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Post by: StEvil2001 on October 11, 2001, 05:58:48 PM
Rover: Should we introduce ourselves on the Barstow email list..have you noticed the recent surge of emails after none for several months?
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Post by: StEvil2001 on October 11, 2001, 06:04:08 PM
Listened to last night:

An old tape of BBC broadcasts from the 70s including Camel in Concert (Snow Goose), sessions from Gypsy and Wild Turkey, Caravan in Concert, sessions from John Martyn and Nic Jones
+Ron's latest freebies...
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Post by: StEvil2001 on October 11, 2001, 06:04:56 PM
Who's in Gong these days?
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Post by: Stevil Bluestow on October 11, 2001, 06:07:47 PM
Statistics on this year's Blue Potato harvest are ready
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 11, 2001, 06:13:54 PM
Hope everyone who is able to get along to Clwb Ifor Bach has a great time at tonight's gig in Cardiff. Jules/Kevin, reviews and set list as soon as possible please !!!
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 11, 2001, 06:42:10 PM
Damn! This is the first Welsh based gig i am going to miss for quite a while.The wife is nights and i got no sitters for my boys.I hope whoever goes has a fabulous evening,its a great venue,and of course you have got Wales GREATEST to
enjoy.Have a great one, radio 2 beckons.
         Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on October 11, 2001, 07:07:57 PM
The Great (half man) Steve.I am listening to the superb TD live in East Berlin 31,01,80.This must surely rank as one of (their)and(rock musics) finest hours. The First western rock band to play behind the Iron curtain,WHY WERE THEY ASKED?Probably cause they were massive.Quality music from a Quality outfit.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on October 11, 2001, 07:37:39 PM
TD's finest hour must surely have been at my brothers wedding "Do", when the band who were playing auntie and uncle type songs to dance to were rested whilst the dinner was eaten. My brother provided the DJ with a TD LP to play as backing music to the meal. Tangerine Dream, available for weddings, christenings......etc
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Post by: Rover on October 11, 2001, 08:12:06 PM
Too late Stevil, first strike for Rover.
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Post by: StEvil2001 on October 11, 2001, 08:29:07 PM
2-1. Perhaps you could now ask the assembled inhabitants of Barstow if there are any Manfans onboard?
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 11, 2001, 08:35:53 PM
3-1. Where are you, Rover?
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 11, 2001, 08:46:34 PM
Rob W, how are you ? Still no sign of Neil ? Bad luck on not being able to get to Cardiff Colin.

What does everyone think about the Copperhead CD ? I've listened to about 4 tracks so far and enjoyed them.
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 11, 2001, 08:56:06 PM
It's also bad luck that I can't get to Cardiff as well, isn't it Rob, and bad luck that I presumably won't even be able to hear a streamed Gough tonight either and even worse luck that I can't get to Greasy Truckers despite careful planning because I have to go to a pre-meeting meeting in the Netherlands on the Sunday night. But, I guess it's good luck that I managed to get a Manfan as a brother, isn't it? I mean he might have been a Barry White fan....
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 11, 2001, 09:03:02 PM
Album of the year: yes, Ron, it must be Malcolm M......and the whole family like it - I've even caught my daughter playing it. That's practically never happened with any of my other albums. 4-1, Rover
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Post by: StEvil Strong v.2001 on October 11, 2001, 09:10:47 PM
Well , we got more than we bargained for there, Rover. Here is the list of songs infiltrated by Barstow:

The ultimate version of Route 66 is by Nat King Cole, in my rather humble
opinion.  Tons of artists covered it.

Also, partly off the top of my head and partly off my list of MP3's:

         "The Big Heat" by Stan Ridgeway
         "California Okie" by Buck Owens
         "Barstow Blue-Eyes" by Jojo Gunne
         "Death in Barstow" by The Residents
         "14 Miles to Barstow" by David Grisman"
         "Barstool Cowboy from Old Barstow" by Spike Jones
         "Overwhelming World Suite" by America
         "The Barstow Sizzler" by Happy Apple (an avant-garde jazz group)

         Also, there's "On To Barstow" but I don't know who wrote &
performed it, and I'd love to know that.

Last but not least, there's "Eight Hitchhiker Inscriptions on Guardrail in
Barstow" by composer Harry Partch, performed by groups like Kronos
Quartet.  http://www.corporeal.com has more info on this amazing composer,
who was also a hobo & created his own instruments.  It also has an essay on
why Partch chose Barstow as his inspiration.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 11, 2001, 09:58:30 PM
It is bad luck for us all Steph ! Jackie Leven's album should be a contender for album of the year too, along with Roger Chapman's Rollin and Tumblin. I am yet to listen to Rant by Ian Hunter but Michael H has rated that very highly. There's still two and a half months for Budgie to nip in there though. Perhaps not.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on October 11, 2001, 11:06:33 PM
Well Rob D, since you're asking, got back from hospital yesterday. Feeling a bit sorry for myself tonight, so had a well hot bath (normally a shower person), loads of the kids bubble stuff in it, and listened to Star Club. The best album from any band ever. I'm ready to take on the world!...... Last spoke to Neil F when he phoned me for a lift to RAH but I wasn't going. Neil's busy organising the Commonealth Games in M/cr. And no doubt also busy listening to my tapes and watching my video!!!.... So far the M/cr posse for 22 Dec is 3 definite, maybe 4 if Neil comes along. M/CR IS BACK!!!
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Post by: Gordon Luck on October 12, 2001, 12:10:56 AM
Hope you had a good time in Cardiff. Just been to see the Carl Palmer Band tonight in Cleethorpes. Started with Hoedown and played 85 mins ending with Fanfare For The Common Man including extended drum solo. Noticeably, though, no vocals in the set.
   Last Friday saw UK Doorz, Doors tribute band.
   Looking forward to Sunday-seeing Rockbitch again!
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Post by: halfamix on October 12, 2001, 12:29:29 AM
Hello to all you lucky fellows in Cardiff tonight, hope you all had an excellant time? Shame I couldn't make this one but my liver is still recovering from Cardiff!
The great Astro man:strange you talk about the great TD;I have been having a Virgin years day and have played all the Virgin LP's back to back as I was wondering if a couple of CD's might replace a couple of the well played vinyl copies.
:cool:
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Post by: greencakes on October 12, 2001, 12:45:54 AM
Nine Feet Underground from Grey and Pink has been in heavy rotation this week. What's this about the lost Helps coming out? Oh God, Yes, YES! Please, PLEASE make it so Captain. Another vote for Morley's album of the year. Damn all this security! It's getting hard to find proper herbal supplements!On the other hand I got to get a gas mask for the trip to work. Talk about the line of duty. Pass the ammunition, Maurice...
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Post by: greencakes on October 12, 2001, 01:04:13 AM
I had a station wagon once. Nice little Pinto with the fake wood paneling. Sweet. Always wondered if I'd get toasted in it. But they don't like Yankees down south, you know, still sore about the 19th century. So it got left behind with some other broken promises. Blood isn't always so thick. And flesh becomes water. See what I mean, man?
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Post by: seen too much on October 12, 2001, 01:09:29 AM
my trainer lives right in front of the former WTC and told me the last guy he saw jump off did a swan dive. Sh*t, that is living!
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Post by: greencakes on October 12, 2001, 01:15:12 AM
all time hottest MAN jam (on CD at least) is ... well, Jam up Jelly..., of course! Now, tell me, what else is there like that? (no, really. on tape or something?)don't hold back on me now.
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Post by: D'oh! on October 12, 2001, 01:19:52 AM
i had no idea iloveman.com was a real site!oh well.arse.not.
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Post by: greencakes on October 12, 2001, 02:19:12 AM
Rob W., i'm ready to give up Bananas now as well. Glad you're on the mend. :-) -Adam
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Post by: dial 911 on October 12, 2001, 02:46:28 AM
call the cops, somebodys doing somethin!
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Post by: wasthatapowerserge? on October 12, 2001, 03:14:34 AM
and if you have not tasted Woodchuck's Granny Smith Cider you are missing ... bliss ... end transmission ...
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Post by: Clives little pinky booster on October 12, 2001, 03:37:09 AM
now on the backround vocal of hold your ferret aloft, is that ... " forget about your sport tease? " sounds like Zappa ... or forget about the spot please ... ?
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Post by: Tel on October 12, 2001, 02:00:37 PM
Anybody going to GT Revisited next sunday. There's a pub called The George in Goslett Yard -  2nd turning right past the Astoria from TCR. Sell's a goodly pint of beer as I recall. Seems like a good meeting point - Tel
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Post by: Rover on October 12, 2001, 02:54:38 PM
Ok that should do it now StEvil. The guys in the lab tell me that 'Barstow' is ahead of 'Tangerine' in this month's word count. Mission Accomplished.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 12, 2001, 10:51:23 PM
AAH, MR woolfe, your knowledge of music amazes me. go back to your ZIMMER frame expert,or should i say BAY CITY ROLLERS.
hE HE HE HE HE ameteur.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on October 12, 2001, 11:00:20 PM
Just thought I'd post a message that the M/cr posse (Neil n Me) are off to see Southside Jonny next Thursday so that'll be at least 2 Man t shirts in the audience and I see the post below. What's that about then? And Neil has given me no clue as to whether I'll see my video and tapes!! Thanks Adam for your comments. I'm back on bananas again both of the food and musical variety.
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Post by: Convention of the 24 on October 12, 2001, 11:04:10 PM
Obviously TANGERINE DREAM.The Greatest.
Cheers WOLFIE.
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Post by: Dirty Gurty from no30 on October 13, 2001, 03:18:31 PM
I was at Cardiff 2wks ago and I met ever such a nice young man who entertained me in the ladies toilet whilst whistling a tune which I later found out was called "Bananas" by one of the acts playing that evening namely MAN. Do you know where I might find this young man as he made an old lady very happy!
:cool:
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Post by: Paul Thompson on October 13, 2001, 07:49:56 PM
Regarding Pete Currie's posting (No.784, I think), I remember the occasion vividly, as I was Skinner's Rats' drummer on that occasion. I wonder if anyone can remember what I had on the front skin of my bass drum!

     Regards,
             Paul Thompson

PS No, I'm not the ex-drummer of Roxy Music.
PPS I haven't touched a drum kit since 1972, which is probably a good thing!
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Post by: tony on October 13, 2001, 10:06:57 PM
this weekends music is man star club (possibly their best cd)
frank zappa shut up and play yer guitar
the new ten years after live cd
john martyn solid air
and wish bone ash distilation
and all washed down with a dozen holstin pils
have a great weekend every one and hope to see some of you at the greasy truckers thing next weekend  
cheers tony
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Post by: Beefheart on October 14, 2001, 12:17:16 AM
Durty Gurty it WAS me! :eek:

But was it you?
How could I tell? Lets see....you choose:

Beefy or Buffy?
Bears or Fluffy?
TALK or SBTPM?
Your pants or mine next time?

Luv
Beefheart :rolleyes:
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Post by: Gurty on October 14, 2001, 02:50:06 AM
Mine dear Beefy. Copmanthorpe's so far away.

:D
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Post by: tony on October 14, 2001, 08:31:57 PM
did any one go to cardiff theres a deafening silence about the gig any reviews out there.
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Post by: Wren on October 14, 2001, 10:20:20 PM
Tony - Cardiff was excellent - wait for Jules' review (you are doing the review Jules, or am I?)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 14, 2001, 10:37:43 PM
The review's just been loaded Tony. You'll find it in the 'In Concerts' section of the Archive of course.

Some very happy surprises in the setlist just to make jealous those of you who didn't go to Cardiff last Thursday. Perhaps a bit of limbering up for next Sunday?

Pictures to follow, just have to take the film to the processors and see what develops.

Wren, a great pair of nights out last week. Some memories are always better than others! My best to you and Chris.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 14, 2001, 10:56:53 PM
No Gurty, I don't think it was you. You failed the TALK test!

Sigh. Cardiff was soooooo promising.

Will this shoe fit no-one? :-(
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 12:57:26 AM
I vote for stote. Weasel is evil.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 04:20:35 AM
Arse to all. Another win at Hoosier. Talking horseracing. Breeder's Cup this month.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 04:26:58 AM
Well the night was falling in the desert world as they began to settle down...Band on the Run!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 04:38:03 AM
Hi Hi Hi
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 05:39:30 AM
Of course when all music passes, Joni Mitchell comes through. She of the best vocals. The hissing of summer lawns.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 05:48:01 AM
Joni Mitchell is the artist.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 05:51:39 AM
If you want intelligent music sung by an angel. If you want jazz. Joni Mitchell. Who else?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 06:15:21 AM
The Big man arrives.
Disco dancesrs speaking.
plain clothes cops speaking.
small town Big man fresh lipstick glistening.

Sophmore jive,
From victims of type writers. The band sounds like typewriters, The big man he's not listening.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 06:23:55 AM
`It takes a heart like Mary's these day's when your man gets weak.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 06:27:28 AM
A woman must have everything.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 06:33:30 AM
this is the rock. station man. Blood on the foor. Hi Ho Silver., Jewel Eyed Judy.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 15, 2001, 06:45:23 AM
taliban boogie I'm feelin' down,
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Post by: michael heatley on October 15, 2001, 10:16:20 AM
If they play the Cardiff set at Greasy Truckers, I for one would die (dai?) happy. Actually, with the substitution of Brother Arnold for Popemobile. I was going to say Pope is my least favourite Man song since they re-formed but in fairness to Martin I should also say Even Visionaries Go Blind is in my top 3 faves. But Bob and Gareth wouldn't known that one?
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 15, 2001, 10:42:13 AM
Thanks for the review Jules. It sounds like a good night; shame there were not more people there. Fine set list, and a much better performance than Cardiff witnessed on Saturday. Popemobile seems to be one you love or dislike ( can't say hate about a Man song, except perhaps that John McKenzie one from The Welsh Connection ). I love the song but would trade it for Visionaries which I remember as being the stand out song from the first time I saw Man in 1983. Wren, how about another review for the Mailing List ?!
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Post by: Rover on October 15, 2001, 01:33:52 PM
Perhaps Angel Easy would be in the GT set list?
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Post by: Tel on October 15, 2001, 02:03:22 PM
Rob - Will you be at GT on Sunday? Anybody else - ROLL CALL CHAPS.(and chapesses)
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 15, 2001, 02:29:59 PM
I might be there Tel but it depends how Ann is. Anyone know what time Man are likely to play, and what is the meeting time at the George ?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 15, 2001, 07:06:56 PM
Sorry guys.  Going AWOL on Sunday.  I'm sure you'll have a great time and I wish you all an extended set. Please post your reviews.

-Rob.  Did you get to see Chappo?  Apparantly the gig was rave reviewed in The Times (at least PeteF said it was).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 16, 2001, 01:28:48 AM
Tel, I hope to be there on Sunday. It's a two-way drive on the day though, so another dry gig. See you in The George, driving (and parking) conditions permitting.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 16, 2001, 09:54:50 AM
I hope to be there on Sunday, driving, so dry. But hey! Man are intoxicating enough.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 16, 2001, 01:39:11 PM
i'll be there, what time at the george?
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Post by: halfamix on October 16, 2001, 03:05:38 PM
Hi All
I'm not going to be able to make it on Sunday as I can't get there or back again! The trusty old motorbike is using to much oil and I fear an engine meltdown if I try to get to London on it!
I've just had another e-mail from Judge Trev of Inner City Unit stating that Mick Farren and the Deviants are NOT going to be at the show,I hope this is the only cancellation for all you lucky fellows who can make it.
:cool:
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 16, 2001, 05:20:04 PM
Hiya Dave. I missed Chappo as Ann and I were in Wales that weekend and got back too late to nip along to Worcester Park. According to Martin Ace's site there is another Chappo gig at the Patti coming up. There are also some photos from the Cardiff Arena show on the site. Shame Micky blinked.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on October 16, 2001, 07:00:49 PM
Half mix (steve).Just got delivery of a three cdr set of the Dreams(most beautiful
rock for peace) gig in Poland on 31,8,2001,but thats not all,also a 2hour forty five minute video.AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHH IM CREAMING IN MY JEANS BROTHER.
     Best regards    CJ.
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Post by: Wren on October 16, 2001, 11:35:48 PM
The Writs - Wales' answer to the Brit Awards.

Just follow the link attached, archive search for 'The Writs' and click on the headline.

Given the comments re Man's eligibility, does anyone know how to serve a writ? Rob??
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Post by: Anna on October 17, 2001, 01:11:18 AM
Harrumph!  Pity they didn't mention Bonnie's availability for charity events.  That said, at least she IS still working.  Incredible.

Tel - I can't make it to GT2.  Hope it's a great night for all.

Hoping to get to the Charlotte show - is it on the 22nd or 28th?  Any other dates confirmed yet?

Maurice - a belated thank you (just because).
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Post by: greencakes on October 17, 2001, 03:08:45 AM
Jules. Thanks for the mouth-watering review of Clwb Ifor Bach. Excellent! Worth a trip from anywhere. Wish i wuz there. :-)
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Post by: bokchoy on October 17, 2001, 03:22:06 AM
nothing wrong with Chinese Cut either
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 10:40:33 AM
Anna, the gig at The Charlotte in Leicester is on the 28th. The date shown in the Archive currently is wrong (old information which hasn't been updated - mea culpa). It'll be corrected later today I hope.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 11:10:50 AM
Apparently Andy Dunkley is in the line-up of the 16-strong Hawkestra for Sunday...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 11:51:53 AM
Hmm well. Dunkley part of the ersatz Hawkestra? I'm sure 'they're a really nice band', but surely he'll be too busy 'looning around backstage'?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 02:44:17 PM
The Writs? A great idea, but I can't believe that the organisers would ignore Man on such a flimsy premise. Not sure if the band are still working or available? Do they not know what's going on in their own backyard?

I hear that the virtual mayor of Swansea may have a few words to say about it all. Always good for a quote the virtual mayor. Keep it clean though Paul.

Interestingly enough there is a feedback route on the Writs website (link on the left) if anyone should feel a need to comment on the panel's choices. Arse? Elbow?
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Post by: Tel on October 17, 2001, 02:50:21 PM
I meant to look at the kick off time on the ticket last night and forgot!! I think the doors open at 5-30pm Way oif life at the moment I'm afraid. I reckon 3 to 3-30. Maybe earlier - may be later!!
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 17, 2001, 05:56:38 PM
I saw the Writs mentioned in the Western Mail yesterday - there was a photo publicising the award nominations on the front page. Regarding the choice of names for the awards and their level of awareness it seems appropriate that there is no longer such a thing as a Writ - more prosaically now called claim forms. (Snappy title eh ?)

At least Dave Edmunds gets a nomination as best producer. I'm not so sure about Mike Peters of the Alarm getting the Outstanding Contribution to the Music Scene in Wales award though. Still we can all console ourselves with Bonnie's greatest hits album, a must for all Welsh music fans... ( cue Martin Ace's Van Morrison story ).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 06:21:00 PM
I just nipped over to have a look at the new CIA pictures on Martin's site. Excellent stuff, so a big well done to Bommaz.

I don't think Micky blinked though Rob, he probably just fell asleep standing up.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 08:10:25 PM
Nice set of snaps on Martins site,is that thierry henry on the snap in the dressing room?Dont look like GARETH.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 17, 2001, 09:48:47 PM
Looking forward to S'side Jonny tomorrow night with Neil F. If I get my video and tapes back, I may just bare my backside in Marks and Spencer in Bury on Saturday morning.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 18, 2001, 07:24:24 AM
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift, that's why it's the "present"...bloody arse, I've haven't enough to prime me. On order: Camel's "The Paris Collection" and "Camel 73-75 God's of Light" Anyone see Camel's last tour in Euro? I was sitting me arse on the U.S.S. Constipation and couldn't make it.  Good reviews...tomorrow is a mystery, looking forward to the "present". Wow! that could be a parallel monograph to "Back into the Future...i.e. "Looking Forward to the Present"...arse..owsa bout "Maximum Dekeness"...groans. I said I wasn't suitibly primed.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 18, 2001, 07:39:04 AM
Okay I'm just going to leave it at that...a call for a double album (CD) from Man apres "The rReturn of Ken Whaley...Happy Daze" named "Looking Forward to The Present" (a Man covers album) and "Maximum Dekeness" (a Deke album)...all of course with guest stars, times aranged and general Malay and the Gwalia Male Choir coming out of retirement from various AA meetings across Wales. Dreaming of Wales..makes me want to listen to the live version of Mountain's "Nantucket Sleighride"...ARSE.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 18, 2001, 02:21:06 PM
Ahhh The Great Mountain, a power trio if there ever was one. Just don't let your other half(amix) anywhere near a gun like poor old Felix did!
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on October 18, 2001, 02:26:09 PM
Hi All
HMV sale still on I just picked up the remastered Kate Bush "Hounds of Love" with extra tracks for ?2.99!!
Voiceprint are also doing their 3for?25 sale with lots of MAN and take notice Colin J the Astro man,lots of the newer Tangerine Dream releases (yes please)
:cool:
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Post by: michael heatley on October 18, 2001, 04:29:41 PM
All right - let's try again on this cover version lark.
How about Man covering Cry Tough by Nils Lofgren ? Micky singing? (After all he had him in the back of his minicab once?)
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Post by: michael heatley on October 18, 2001, 04:30:18 PM
All right - let's try again on this cover version lark.
How about Man covering Cry Tough by Nils Lofgren ? Micky singing? (After all he had him in the back of his minicab once?)
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Post by: halfamix on October 18, 2001, 05:10:02 PM
I would like to hear them have a go at "Laughed at the Judge" that was originally done by the Grease Band.
This GB song is brilliant but I know MAN could add that little something to it!
:cool:
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Post by: tony on October 18, 2001, 07:31:44 PM
hurricane by niel young micky on vocals and guitar of course great excuse for another blistering solo
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Post by: tony on October 18, 2001, 07:33:57 PM
of course i ment neil young , niel youngs version is crap
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on October 18, 2001, 07:37:41 PM
talking of Nils Lofgren, he's playing local in a couple of weeks but can't make it. Was brought his " Best Of" compilation  album year or so ago, and great surprise to see liner notes written by the one and only MH.  BTW, thanks very much for the past couple of TWC's. Didn't expect it. I am really grateful.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 18, 2001, 10:51:44 PM
How about a medley of Lost in France, Apache, Wired for Sound and Breadfan ... maybe not.

Alternatively, It Makes No Difference/Shape I'm in by the Band, Micky on vocals and anything by the Band which has a staccato solo from Robbie Robertson so that Micky can show him how it is really done ( or Hard on Me/Richard Thompson to hear Micky's take on the solo)  ; The Future's So Bright I Gotta Wear Shades/(whoever it was ), Deke on vocals; Atlantic City/Springsteen , Deke on vocals; Stargazer/Rainbow so that Bob can play Cozy's kit; Written on the Subway Walls/Dion de Mucci, Martin on vocals; Fear/John Cale, Deke on vocals ; When will I be loved/Everley Brothers, Micky on vocals. Caleb's Blues/ Tangerine Dream, Halfamix and Colin J on voc.. oops.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on October 19, 2001, 12:43:36 AM
Southside Johnny - a great gig, absolutely storming. The highlight? Having my blue Rhinos T shirt recognised by a Man in the audience - John Webb who I expect some of you will know. If you're reading this John, nice meeting you, see you at the Gong gig perhaps?
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Post by: TALK on October 19, 2001, 01:57:51 AM
10,000 virgins?

No thanks, I prefer the Bear essentials.

But wouldn't Angel Easy be great back in the set? I wish I could get to GT2.

If only I hadn't taken the easy way out....
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Post by: halfamix on October 19, 2001, 02:08:12 AM
There are some vocals on Tangerine Dream LP's just not very many and not very often!!
I was just listening to my American vinyl issue of Nektars "Remember the Future" LP and just noticed a credit on the rear cover thanking "The Man band for coming to Germany" I've had this LP for years and i'd never noticed that!
Mind you it is an album to be listened to whilst under the influence of intoxicating substances so no wonder I've never noticed!
:cool:
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Post by: leafy on October 19, 2001, 03:01:22 AM
Would anyone ever want to cover Stairway to Heaven? I think it could be done by ours truly. :D
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Post by: halfamix on October 19, 2001, 03:43:55 AM
I have a 12" single with Frank Zappa doing a version of "Stairway to Heaven" it is excellant and decendes into a rousing rendition of the tune from the "Teddy Bears picnic" at the end.
very cool
:cool:
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 19, 2001, 09:23:25 AM
AAh Calebs blues/Tangerine Dream,Great track from the excellent near dark soundtrack.Where did you buy that one Rob?Could you be joining the secret throng of Dreamers?I can see it now,Half a mix,you,and myself perched behind a wall of analogue synths and an indesit multi-spin with a giant reefer each at the hawthorn leisure centre Pontypridd surrounded by a 1000 hypnotised punters.Who knows,anything possible these days.I always knew you would come out of the closet.He He He.
You wont find many vocal albums buy TD.
Cyclone with the the great Steve Jolliffe
and Tyger with the wonderful Jocelyn B Smith are the two most obvious ones.NOW I KNOW YOU ALL WANTED TO KNOW THAT INFO-
closet Dreamers.He He He.
      Best regards to all   CJ.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on October 19, 2001, 10:03:12 AM
I might have trouble making GT2 due to work commitments.

Does anyone know how long Man are going to be on stage.
Is it going to be just 1 hour as at Cardiff?

This could be crucial to my descision, although 1 hour of man is a lifetime in Paradise( maybe I just want more than one lifetime).
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Post by: Fostz on October 19, 2001, 10:12:44 AM
Stairway covers eh?
I have the Austrailian Doors doing a cover and of course King Rolf. Then again I have versions of Rolf covering most songs.
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Post by: halfamix on October 19, 2001, 01:46:18 PM
Fostz my good fellow, do you have a copy of Alice Cooper doing Rolfs "Sun Arise" from Alices excellant "Love it to Death"
LP? Sheer class
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on October 19, 2001, 01:50:52 PM
I must add that was before Alice went all Rawkkk with his pretty boy backing bands, horrible thing to say but since he gave up the booze his music is not the same!!!
Mmmh There must be something in that!
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 19, 2001, 02:45:33 PM
Paul, I'm told that Man should arrive onstage around 8 o'clock, although it was pointed out that with 14 ex-members of Hawkwind about, anything could happen.

I don't have any idea what time the show closes, but we should insist that it doesn't happen before they play Spunk Rock AND Angel Easy.
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Post by: michael heatley on October 19, 2001, 04:14:08 PM
How about a version of James Brown's I'll Go Crazy with Deke on vocals. You know, the one that goes "You gotta live for  yourself, yourself and nobody else"?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 19, 2001, 04:22:41 PM
How about Micky doing 'Long Tall Woman In A Black Dress'? Deke doing 'The Young Ones'? Martin doing 'So Shy'?
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Post by: tony on October 19, 2001, 06:58:19 PM
the green ray cd arrived today 1 month after ordering it and its pretty amazing well worth the wait in fact its fantastic are there any other green ray tracks any where does any one know please.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 19, 2001, 07:16:03 PM
I got to say it chaps,I love that INDESIT
addition,its great to see some HUMOUR.
     Best regards   Edgar.
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Post by: Ginger Baker on October 19, 2001, 11:02:28 PM
Hi Webmaster.Are people allowed to burgle mid-sentence?If so can we all chirp in when we like$$*)+!!^???$?%?
THE HURDY GURDY MAN.
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Post by: Simon House on October 19, 2001, 11:05:55 PM
Dirty Dirty Webmaster?
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Post by: Bob Calvert on October 19, 2001, 11:47:02 PM
Space is deep.
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Post by: Giant Haystacks on October 19, 2001, 11:50:47 PM
Come on then! Come on.
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Post by: Honey boy zimba on October 19, 2001, 11:52:05 PM
What going on man.
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Post by: Kent walton on October 19, 2001, 11:53:34 PM
1,ner 2,eh 3 eh
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Post by: Tebor ZSAKASH on October 19, 2001, 11:55:05 PM
Arggh  Arrghhh 1 ner 2 ER 3 ER
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Post by: Kendo Nagasaki on October 19, 2001, 11:57:13 PM
hiaah yeeahh hiyyeeaah.
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Post by: Pat Roach on October 20, 2001, 12:00:11 AM
Bolux mun.
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Post by: Les Kellett on October 20, 2001, 12:01:41 AM
Oink.
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Post by: Alan glazier on October 20, 2001, 12:02:50 AM
The ton machine
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Post by: Johnny Kwango on October 20, 2001, 12:04:44 AM
ooooo ooooo ooooo
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Post by: Bert Royal on October 20, 2001, 12:05:59 AM
Wheres my hair?
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Post by: leafy on October 20, 2001, 01:28:04 AM
I used to be a huge Michael Moorcock reader. Wasn't he somehow hooked up with Hawkwind? From the little i ever heard of Hawkwind, never really took to 'em. A bit ... weak, i thought. More of a solid Zep kind of rock for me please. Has Man covered anything on record (or otherwise) besides Codine and Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You? Say, did any of you chaps attend Holland Park School in the early 70's? Or, hang out in the park with the wild ones instead? Seen you there! :D
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Post by: leafy on October 20, 2001, 01:48:00 AM
Tony. Sighs, Whales and Trees limited edition green vinyl LP is available from Forced Exposure for a lamentably low price. There is one track not on the CD, "Flying High" - you bet... Adam
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 20, 2001, 02:34:43 AM
I just got the Clwb Ifor Bach photos loaded. Click the gallery button on the review in the Archive to have a look.

:-)

David Bailey is not under threat.

:-(
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Post by: tony on October 20, 2001, 08:20:07 AM
thanks leafy iwill be getting the green ray 12" as soon as possible,ive only had the cd a day and ive played it 4 time its really is something else.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on October 20, 2001, 10:00:25 AM
My brother is going to tell me a story. About me and dad and going to the airport. I came home and I was out, this is the truth. I was supposda come home because dad had a pass (airline pass). Anbd ah, you really want to know the truthh? I know what happened. I',m going to tell you what happennned itf...so I';ve been drinking with my buddys...dad said i had to come home by 11 Pm to get the pass to Hawaaii. Well it would have been a free trip. So agter drinking with my bbuiddies I drove home. Well our car port, hadsingle poles on the right side.So I kinda bumped one. And I kinda got aout of the car and kinda twirled around and kinda said ahyeaheah!!!. so I wnt in the house and dad said, Frank, where the fuck you been? And I've alwys remembereded this all my life. so i was 18 band drinkin an so he says get in the car,and drive, you are driving, to the airport...SFO. So I starteed driveing, I was drunk. I drove down to fucking 3 blocks. I hit the curb. He says, I'm going to teach you a lessopn. He said "your my son, I'm buying your ticket, to get to the airport, I drove to the corner of Norfolk and Polk, and I hit the curb, I really did , I hit the curb. He say's if you are really man,
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Post by: Paul Reilly on October 20, 2001, 11:19:27 AM
Has something happened on the board. I've gone back in time to Oct 1st?
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Post by: Paul Reilly on October 20, 2001, 11:22:45 AM
I'm back to normal time now. If only I'd remembered those lottery numbers.
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Post by: Anna on October 20, 2001, 07:52:56 PM
Enjoy the Greasy Truckers reunion folks !
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Post by: tony on October 20, 2001, 07:56:41 PM
anna ,ive gotta pick someone up at irthlingbro,nr wellingbro do you live near by, gotta spare seat if you want it returning same night.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 20, 2001, 10:38:47 PM
Just had the bargain of the month at HMV.
The superb Electric teppee By HAWKWIND at a ridiculous ?4.99.This 1992 album is surely one of their best,it replaces the cassette which i have played the balls off.Get down to HMV now ,before its to late,a superb album.A right to decide is AWESOME.
           Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: halfamix on October 20, 2001, 11:21:44 PM
Colin me old mate I got an even better bargin "The Hounds of Love" Remastered and with extra tracks by Kate Bush for ?2.99 from HMV!!!! A bargin indeed.
:cool:
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Post by: Cinderella on October 20, 2001, 11:41:48 PM
Tony, thank you !!  I've emailed you.

Halfamix - would you be interested in a Kate Bush home demo tape?  Yours free of charge if you want it, just email your address over.  Think it was made when she was 16 (I never got round to listening to it).

Anna
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Post by: Anna on October 20, 2001, 11:46:27 PM
:D
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Post by: tony on October 21, 2001, 12:27:22 AM
tonight me and ian drank beer and wine and played the green ray and played tracks by donovans brain, today i saw in my mates record shop all te hawkwind cds on emi with extra tracks ?6.00 ea so im going to start buying em to replace my records is stacia still with em
see you all in london at the GT2!!
man are going to blow em off stage .....
again.:D
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Post by: halfamix on October 21, 2001, 01:28:47 PM
It would help if I could spell Bargain! (and me with English Language 'o'level)
Thanks for that Anna I'll drop you an e-mail.
Tony...No Stacia is no longer with Hawkwind, hasn't been since the mid 70's! now I wonder why you wanted to know that :-)
To all you lucky ****ards that are off to GT2 have a great time and have a couple of beers for me.
I'm off to hospital to see mate that fell of Harley and has broken legs. (poor sod)
:cool:
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Post by: Tim W on October 21, 2001, 04:36:28 PM
Stacia's role will be taken by Sam Fox at the RFH, according to Dave Brock.

See

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4267410,00.html

(Apologies if that forces horizontal scrolling).
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Post by: Tim W on October 21, 2001, 07:39:50 PM
:-(  

Oh well.  Never mind.  I'll see them at Leicester next week.  Hope you're all having a good time NOW !

Hurry up with those reviews.
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 12:54:17 AM
Well we tried. We turned up at the Astoria in a taxi from our second gig of the day, complete with instruments headmics and lead bag. Your names aren't on the guest list. You don't get in. But we are performers not guests! Nick Turner is God and if he hasn't put your name on the list you don't get in.
OK we tried anyway. Goodnight to you...Taxi...Taxi...
So much for ten days phoning around and trying to set it up. All I can say is that I'm extremely glad Paul didn't come down from Scotland to play drums (as he did in '72 and that Richard did not delay the start of his Italian trip for this poorly organised piece of rudeness. Our salaams to the Man Band. Sorry we missed you after alll this time  but we'll meet up again some time.
Peter & Barry,   Skinner's Rats/Blackheath Foot & Deathmen
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 05:41:24 AM
Inner City Unit...who's gonna win the war?
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 05:50:40 AM
Raj Neesh
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 05:58:22 AM
Hawkwind is the band. All of their albums have music that is of interest. I could name anysong from any album and it is an original. Hawkwind is the band.
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 06:05:02 AM
Listening to "Work" from"Best of Hawkwind, Friends & Relations"...great!
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 06:13:14 AM
Tibet is not China (Part II).
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 06:21:34 AM
Erections in the course of a night.
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 06:39:33 AM
--*And Gimme Shelter...It is the business of the future to be danger0us.
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Post by: Tim W on October 22, 2001, 10:52:18 AM
I had a bit more success than my mates from Blackheath... Having got past the sub human on the door, who needed convincing I was a suitable candidate to be let in without a ticket bought in advance, I was looking forward to a great set from the lads. What a disappointment to only get 3 short songs! I had to leave at 9.45 as the last train left at 10.15. What did I miss? Did the band come back on again? What happened? What time did it finish?
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Post by: michael heatley on October 22, 2001, 11:55:28 AM
What a night! what a night! It all just reinfoces my opinion that I go to Man gigs for the standard of the audience as much as the music. You did not let me down, chaps/esses. While I understand why Man couldn't play more songs, they siad more in 25 minutes than the Hawkestra (with five bass players was it) said in an hour 25.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 22, 2001, 12:55:07 PM
An extraordinary gig !! Man came on at 9.00pm played Ride and were cooking. Deke changes guitar, Micky starts up the riff for Romain, I look quizically at Colin R, Colin says maybe this is a reworked short set , band play another stormer. Then Martin says " That's All We've Got Time For - Goodnight !" and I think now that is funny - another addition to the Man book of stagecraft and humour, so what is next in the set. Unfortunately they meant it !! Off they troop. By now stunned disappointment has given way to stunned swearing. However, the compere comes back on and says they can have one more as long as it is a short one. Several cries for a very long Spunk Rock go unheeded but they played the best version of Daughter of the Fireplace that I have heard on album or live.  It was worth the ticket price alone. Then they went off and that was it and it was 9.25pm !!

Tel was not happy ! He made that very clear !! I had to make a move early anyway so missed the Hawkestra; their first song was memorably described by Jeff as all effects pedals and bontempi organ. Never was going to be my cup of tea.

I thought the first band - I think called the Theory - were quite good. Magic Michael was - actually I do not have the words, bizarre is the best I can do. Inner City Unit were fun in a shambolic way - Nik Turner gives it everything, Watching the Grass Grow was raucous ( although Tel called it Watching paint warp - not a happy man ), Space Invaders was completely unlistenable and the guitarist looked like Danny from Withnail's less sophisticated elder brother. Nik Turner reappeared for the Hawkestra in a deeply strange suit and there was apparently a bassist convention.

Jules, Tony, Tel, Jeff and Michael, I hope you had safe journeys home - a long way to travel for such a short set. Colin R great to see you - I will e-mail tou soon. One hell of a different night.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 22, 2001, 03:43:29 PM
I can't believe it.  How can anyone expect MAN to play for less than half an hour.  Its an insult to their audience (let alone the band) and, it seems, a monument to the hawk-egos.  I hope the boys got a full fee.
My non-attendance was, in part, based on info from someone just outside the Hawkwindestra camp.  Piss up in a brewery was mentioned among other references to egos and internal strife; all of which made me think that all might not go too well - but its absolutely disgraceful that God-fearing MANfans should suffer.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 22, 2001, 04:00:24 PM
Dave, I think the timing all stemmed from the horrendous hold up on the M4 yesterday, which led to the band's late arrival and the strict 11.00pm finish required at the Astoria. It had a best of a bad job feel about it; no one's fault just bad luck. Still, another 15 minutes wouldn't have hurt - at the rate they played DoTF we could have had Conflict of interest and a breakneck Spunk Rock. What could have been ...

Colin J, I bought the Near Dark soundtrack at a record shop in Newport in 1987/88 after seeing the film. I dug it out recently after all the TD related comments on the Board !
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Post by: Cheech on October 22, 2001, 04:15:18 PM
Dave's not here man.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 22, 2001, 04:23:55 PM
A review of Man's performance yesterday is on its way (shouldn't take too long to write this one), but I'd just like to echo Michael's and Rob's thoughts. It was a crying shame that circumstances forced a much truncated set.

Spare a thought for Gareth and Bob who were not able to use their own instruments and had to make do with whatever was on stage.

No soundcheck, no preparation, no chance to recover after the awful journey up, and they still delivered a great performance. A terrific 25 minute set, played with energy and commitment. I felt they were the only band on the day who seemed to know what they were doing, and did it.

The abbreviated, high-energy approach to yesterday's show made me wonder. Is it perhaps time to weed out a few of the longer more reflective songs in the setlist (such as the Love Isn't Love/C'mon sequence for example), in favour of a collection of harder-edged tunes? Maybe a return to 1983 wouldn't go amiss nowadays?
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Post by: tony on October 22, 2001, 05:13:47 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!1
c'mon must never be left out it should be longer and more soloing from the micky jones(were not worthy, were not worthy)
great fun last night great company  and a great set of dancers (meybe they were there to distract us from the hawkthing music..... it worked)
cheers everone a tired but happy tony
ps any one going to see the band on there autum tour 2001?:D
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on October 22, 2001, 05:36:01 PM
Hello everyone.
Nice to hear you all had a great night at
GT2 last night,but what the hells this 25 min set by Man? This shite has got to stop,it was bloody amazing they were not headlining in Cardiff on 29,9 that was bad enough,but 25 minutes is a disgrace.
This great band should never be limited to that sought of time,they can over ride that with one of their excemplery performances of c/mon alone,its a crying bloody shame.As far as im concerned they should be top of the bill everytime,because ive yet to see them share a bill with any band thats in the same league in the last few years.
Rob hope you can still enjoy that album,some great music on there.
Long live the mighty MAN-BAND,what we need is a forty five minute version of c/mon with Maestro Jones at his finest,now thats entertainment.
   Best regards to all   CJ.
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Post by: Chong on October 22, 2001, 06:42:10 PM
MAN's not here Dave.
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Post by: Colin J on October 22, 2001, 06:55:48 PM
Forgot to ask! Hows Sam fox,s jubblies these days?
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Post by: Alan Davies on October 22, 2001, 07:45:12 PM
This week I have been mostly listening to Man - Live at Penarth, Stereophonics - Word Gets Around and Metallica's Black Album. (Sad But True.)

Couldn't get to GT2, from the post gig posts probably no bad thing. However good the Manband were, 25 minutes can't represent value for money. Was it down to the van siege on the M4?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 22, 2001, 10:58:54 PM
Yes, the explanation given via the promoter yesterday was that a combination of appalling traffic conditions on the M4, and mechanical failure on the part of the big blue van resulted in the band arriving late. Four hours late, so all credit to them for getting anything together at all under the circumstances. Not good value for money for MAN fans perhaps, but there were other attractions also. That marvellous moment some 85 minutes into the Hawkestra's set for example when all those bass players, guitarists, keyboards men and other noise makers suddenly discovered that their fingers could move and formed a second chord. Fantastic.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 23, 2001, 01:15:19 AM
Truth is going to win.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 23, 2001, 10:33:00 AM
Anyone passing the Kashmir Club in London this friday 26th, pop in and see Tyderium play. Tell them they're shit. I put a ?50 bet on with their guitarist that I'd be on Top of the Pops before them. Problem is that they're signed and I'm not even in a band so they need to be discouraged from doing too much.
Saw Deke in Asdas a couple of weeks back, I was going to tell him about this message board but I thought that he probably didn't care (sad but true).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 23, 2001, 11:47:50 AM
Truth: a negotiable commodity.
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Post by: halfamix on October 23, 2001, 01:37:04 PM
Hi All
25mins is that all, I think I'd have been pissed off if I'd travelled far to only get 25mins from the boys, but if circumstances conspire there is nothing to be done I suppose? What a great shame though. I thought the set at Cardiff was a little on the short side! What we need now is MAN headlining at all these one off events and then they can decide how long to play for! Mind you 25mins is better than none at all.
Peace to All MAN fans
:cool:
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Post by: Rover on October 23, 2001, 01:39:03 PM
Glad to hear that the Hawkestra struck a chord with you Jules. No show for me partly due to Holmer Green Ladies vs Tring footie (and partly due to Man not topping the bill). The 3-1 defeat was their best result to date.
Now the last show at the Astoria I attended was the Welsh Convention. That was excellent and reasonably well attended. Are WCs moneymakers? If so lets have another.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 23, 2001, 02:16:07 PM
Rover, it sounds like Holmer Green ladies are in need of slightly more support at the back. Perhaps you should ask for volunteers?

I'm pretty sure the Hawkestra did manage more than just the one chord though. It seemed that the first song had one, the second song (Born To Go?) had two, the third song three, and so on. The fourth song had promise (it was more melodic than those that preceded it), but I don't know what it was. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Inner City Unit were pretty good I thought, although admittedly somewhat rough and ready. There was a certain amount of onstage steering going on ("ok, now we change to a G"), suggesting some rushed rehearsals. At least they played a varied set, and were good enough to stretch out their time to give Man a chance to find the plugs and sockets.
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Post by: Michael Heatley on October 23, 2001, 02:57:55 PM
Any truth in the rumour Micky wants Bob to play a kit that size every gig?
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 23, 2001, 03:43:46 PM
Jules: In fear of also being drafted by the Holmer Green Ladies, I snuck into the country from my sojourn in the Netherlands and lurked in the shadows at the back and made notes: Here is the Nikestra set: Ghost Dance, Born to Go, Poem: Rock of Ages?, Spirit of the Age, D-Rider, Orgone Accumulator, Poem read by Calvert, Master of the Universe, You shouldn't do that, Hassan i Sabha, Brainstorm and a welcome return of the Power Cut! (followed by Nic's rendition of Happy Birthday on the sax). A very unfortunate evening - I had a similar experience at the Patti Pavilion (Rocking for Kate gig in 1997?) which was my reintroduction to bad after a lay-off of 20 years, only to be thwarted by the council pulling the plug 45 mins. into Man's set (I had travelled from Norway that day)
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 23, 2001, 03:55:04 PM
There has been a great loss recently in the entertainment world. The wonderful Larry LaPrise, the
man who wrote the "Hokey Cokey", died last week at 83.  

The most traumatic part for the family was getting him in the coffin. They put his left leg in first ...... and things just started to
go downhill from there...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 23, 2001, 04:00:35 PM
St Evil. I thought I saw you there. You were the bloke stage left during the Nikestra (good term) set, playing the emaciated banjo weren't you? You've aged well.

D-rider was the song I nearly enjoyed. Thanks for the set list.

My poor attempts at humour aside (I confess Hawkwind and their relations are not amongst my favourites), I'd like to add a voice of support for all the hard work that Nik Turner put in trying to get the day off the ground. There was a lot of disinformation about the gig being circulated around the London area in the weeks prior to lift off. Nobody deserves that kind of double-dealing and abuse.

A plea by the way, does anyone have an Astoria ticket they'd be willing to scan for me, or send to me so I can scan and return it? I don't need a TicketWebTicket version as that's where mine came from, but a proper Astoria version.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 23, 2001, 04:05:22 PM
MAN should never go onstage unless they have a three hour window - that's the time scale I like - 1 hr warmup - 2 hours to reach the summit - then an hours freewheeling. Odder than Nik Turner's rubber reptile suit and Man's walk-on part, was a brief appearance on the hawk drum-set of that drummer from Culture Club - im sure im correct. Thought ICU were still entertaining.
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Post by: halfamix on October 23, 2001, 09:20:08 PM
As far as I know that is the first time ICU have played in 15 years. They were always at Stonehenge where I saw them many a time and have always been a bit rough and ready. I have most of their LP's and singles and these also have a very light hearted amaturish punky feel but always good for a laugh.
:cool:
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 23, 2001, 10:19:15 PM
Jules: Do you realise that you have just made history. That was the very first entry of "emaciated banjo" on the whole wide internet? I am pleased to have been a part of it. Just to put it on the record, I am also not overly fond of Hawkwind, and Nic Turner's playing along on Spunk Rock at that ill-fated Jonkoping Space and Rock festival a few years ago must in retrospect be the worse version ever. You are lucky that Spunk Rock was not played as NT would have insisted on joining in.  The StEvil 1973 diary tells me that I sold In Search of Space early that year just before I bought Greasy Truckers. (Rover: SG bought it).
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Post by: Skunk Works on October 24, 2001, 02:01:45 AM
Tangerine Dream the masteres of electronic/synth music.....Whoops wrong message board.
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 02:56:57 AM
Jeff, thanks for the ticket and flyer scan. You da man, man.

St Evil, my mum always said I'd go down in history. She was right, I got very, very poor grades.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 07:32:58 AM
I just have to illiterate, once again, my awe of the work Jules has put into this website! My humble acolades forever! What do we have to do to encourage more reproduction of Jules types, and less of WTC bomber types...Jules, have mucho childreno. What a glorious world it could be if everyone listened to and enjoyed MAN. MAXIMUM DEKENESS NOW!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 07:39:03 AM
I was checking out the Voiceprint Catalogue last night and I will say it is of much interest.  The dirth of Man sound clips is horendous of course. I am currently working on my first CD and hope voiceprint has the good sense to pick it up....arse it's just a joke.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 08:07:36 AM
Anon Man: Dead right, it WAS Jon Moss of Culture Club (born: September 11th, 1957)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 08:10:36 AM
AAAAnd now that I have sufficiently browsed the Hawkwind bashing (what else could I call it), I am mildly surprised and disappointed. Because I  am on record as finding most of Hawkwind's music very entertaining.   MAN should cover one of Hawkwind's songs...owsa about "Tibet is not China (Part 2)."
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 08:17:45 AM
And if you read my earlier post...let Man cover this and transition into.."""Let Barking Dogs Lie""" It appears that Hawkwind can't play live, but to me that's okay, I think that genius is recorded on tape sometimes."""
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 08:24:02 AM
For those who doubt...If you own "It is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous" play tracks 3 and 4 at volume sufficient to wake YOU!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 08:25:13 AM
not to mention track 5
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 08:36:31 AM
If Mickey covered these songs it woulld be a glorius event.
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Post by: Michael Heatley on October 24, 2001, 01:36:39 PM
Following Jon Moss joining the Hawkestra, Boy George wants to guest at Man's next gig. Apparently 25-minute sets are very much his cup of tea.
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Post by: Rover XP on October 24, 2001, 01:48:45 PM
I thought George had already played with the band. If not who was that playing the A chord on Spunk Rock WC IV.
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Post by: Roy hay on October 24, 2001, 02:08:20 PM
You don't mean Rostock Roger, shurely?!
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Post by: Rover XP Home Edition on October 24, 2001, 02:16:33 PM
No, no. The one on the red SG.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 02:23:22 PM
Rover XP, are you supplied with all facilities fully integrated, or do I need to order the upgrade and associated lifetime passports?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 24, 2001, 02:44:58 PM
Disclaimer: Don't expect me to work all the time or to be very helpful if I'm not working.
Anyway the main thing this is to improve on the -162 goal difference achieved last season. I'm not really sure if they need more support up front or at the back.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 24, 2001, 05:21:07 PM
Has anyone listened to the Man reissue on Repertoire - is the sound quality better than the Voiceprint release ? ( It would be hard to believe that it could be worse !)
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Post by: tony on October 24, 2001, 06:51:47 PM
has anyone been able to get here hands on the man reissue on repertoire,if so where from? cheers    tony
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 08:23:12 PM
Fear not manfans thats the way it goes and its not the first time the van has broken down belive me. the bill all seemed a bit naff to me anyway as they were not even playing with the real hawkwind and anyway they should of been headlining the concert even though Nick Turner had put it on. Roll on the Patti!!!!!!!!
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 08:48:49 PM
Rover, I've got the FA coaching licence - I'll coach the ladies footy if they can coach me............ :D
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 09:04:38 PM
Err, just had a thought. I'm still in mixed adult basketball mode which we played this afternoon. My comments below may not be appropriate. Sorry no offence meant.
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 09:40:29 PM
Can we all have a whip round to help the boys buy a new transit?
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 10:48:57 PM
I'm Waiting for my MAN
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 10:50:39 PM
I'm Waiting for my Van
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Post by: George Jones on October 24, 2001, 11:02:10 PM
You cannot be serious!
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Post by: Rover on October 24, 2001, 11:02:34 PM
Thanks
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 24, 2001, 11:10:23 PM
I am now compiling my Christmas list.
For all those at the RAH and Astoria: No more short sets.
For the Manband: Recognition for the true professionals that they are and the music they create.
For me: A trip to The Patti in December.
For the future: To see Maurice and Colin in the same room (just a few feet in front of the Manband). Awesome.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 24, 2001, 11:14:39 PM
THANKS FROM ITALY
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 24, 2001, 11:45:59 PM
this reminded me of something... "In Halberstadt, Germany, in September, an organist kicked off a performance of the late, radical composer John Cage's 'Organ 2/ASLSP' (an acronym somehow derived from 'as slow as possible'), which was written for 20 minutes, but thanks to technology and imagination, will be performed over a period of 639 years. The first six months will be devoted to creating the organs first note. The purpose of the performance is to contrast the piece with the frenzied pace of modern society." uhh, ok. :p
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 25, 2001, 08:38:42 AM
Thanks from Norway
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 25, 2001, 12:27:44 PM
I vote that we continue to pretend we haven't noticed. OK?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 25, 2001, 01:06:12 PM
I agree.

We wouldn't want to encourage him after all.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 25, 2001, 01:10:36 PM
George, howcome you haven't wangled a slot on the bill at the Patti in December? Are you perhaps going to be guesting with Josh?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 25, 2001, 01:11:29 PM
I reckon that John McEnroe post was a load of balls.
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Post by: Rover on October 25, 2001, 02:19:01 PM
Poll : Shall we ignore it?

View Poll | Add Vote
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Post by: StEvil v.2001 on October 25, 2001, 02:21:25 PM
How do you know that the person behind the George Jones post is the genuine article - the famous one I mean? Perhaps we should ask him to tell us something about his Dad that only he would know?
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Post by: Nelly on October 25, 2001, 04:07:15 PM
Get your own Nelly you can not have me,I am spoken for and am very shy and retiring.
:cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 25, 2001, 04:13:04 PM
We could always ask if Tammy expired with assistance.

Tonight, the bottle let me down.......
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 25, 2001, 07:17:08 PM
George wouldn't know would he? Surely they got d-i-v-o-r-c-e'd long before 1983.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 25, 2001, 07:29:20 PM
OH the wonderful sounds of MENG TIAN.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 26, 2001, 12:31:21 AM
The Truckers review is now available for inspection. A few photos and flyer / pass / ticket scans can also be seen.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 26, 2001, 04:02:12 AM
Thanks from NYC
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 26, 2001, 05:51:56 AM
Only to realize that my life might be so flippantly tossed aside. like some dumb bitch playing quarters into a video barside pal at a bar when quarters are king.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 26, 2001, 06:02:44 AM
Ducktrimmer....look for a webpage soon. Maybe not because I'm lazy. I still think I out play Mickey.Mouse...and GOd created me and you. Man's vociferious desire to be better than the next guy has sent jesus up a tree. The penguin is juxtiposed to the fruitloop. And how can tucan? The real answer is that it has never mattered.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 26, 2001, 11:34:10 AM
Oh I used to work in chicago
In a department store
I used to work in chicago
but I dont work there any more
a lady came in for some Richard
Some Richard from the store
Richard she wanted
Dick she got
an I don't work there any more.....
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Post by: tony on October 26, 2001, 12:22:00 PM
anyone going to see the band on there autumn tour,? if so see you all sunday.
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 26, 2001, 01:32:14 PM
Something to while away the time on a Fridat afternoon!
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 26, 2001, 02:06:38 PM
Tony, I will not be able to get along to the Charlotte on Sunday - hope it is a great gig and that you enjoy a much longer set than GT2 ! I really enjoyed your review of the Cardiff gig in the current TWC, and I am looking forward to your Charlotte review, hopefully Monday ?!! Anna, are you going on Sunday ? Jules, fine review of last Sunday. Have a good weekend all, I shall be mostly trying to buy the Rory Gallagher Live box set.
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Post by: halfamix on October 26, 2001, 02:55:41 PM
Hi All fans of quality sounds!
Unfortunately I will not be able to make Leicester on Sunday due to the state of the transport situation in this country (I don't want to get stuck in Leicester,late on a Sunday night!) but I hope you all have a spliffing time, have a couple of jars for me.
:cool:
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Post by: Great Wall of China on October 26, 2001, 02:57:34 PM
Can you hear the "Silence of the Barking Monk"?
:cool:
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Post by: Anna on October 26, 2001, 04:48:11 PM
I'm still planning on being at the Leicester gig.  Even daring to hope for a DotF !!  

Tony:  See you at the merch stall.

Jules: Are you going?  If not, I'll take some photos for the Archive.

Halfamix:  I'll get that tape posted off soon, sorry for the delay.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 26, 2001, 04:53:25 PM
Enjoy the show on Sunday all those of you who are going. Photos will be very welcome Anna, as I'll not be at the Charlotte this time.

I noticed this afternoon that Martin's posted a brief apology on the Manband.net site, regarding the foreshortened set at the Astoria last Sunday.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 26, 2001, 05:09:11 PM
Rob.  Best of luck if you mean the G Men series (or Bootlegging the Bootleggers).  I know men who have spent years in the fruitless quest.
If you get no luck, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do!!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 26, 2001, 06:03:09 PM
Can you see (Thru metamorphic rocks).:eek:
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 26, 2001, 06:24:18 PM
Just got back to my desk after our building was evacuated for a bomb alert - thankfully a false alarm. Dave, it is the official box set currently out, 4 albums one of which is a previous bootleg from amsterdam in 1993 which has a live performance of Continental Op, according to the reviews, which is one of my all time faves.
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Post by: tony on October 27, 2001, 12:28:27 AM
anna wots a dotf
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 27, 2001, 10:26:54 AM
Thanks Rob.  I'll keep my eyes open. But you should also go for a listen to G-Men if the opportunity arises.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 27, 2001, 11:19:27 AM
Tony Smith you should be ashamed of yourself, take one hundred lines immediately. Don't attempt to climb up any chillums.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 27, 2001, 12:19:23 PM
my figers type ARSE. My figers lie over the ocean...oh bring back my figers to me.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 27, 2001, 12:28:25 PM
Why do I keep Fuckin' Up? -Neil Young
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 27, 2001, 12:36:13 PM
and so the perplexisms of a 25 cent do dad were many. they thouht amongst themselves about the infinite meaning of they. but unbeknownst among themselves th wizard came. a false profit of doom and gloom warning of bitter harvests for children yet not amongst. and so the nomads scratched their keys amongst the camels of hated nomads and cabbage was planted but never harvested, because such is the life of a nomad...ARSE.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 27, 2001, 12:41:35 PM
and sew the perplexisms of doubt amongst the mighty acorns who so humbly oak out a living.
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Post by: tony on October 27, 2001, 06:11:44 PM
oh you mean that kind of doft,
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Post by: Fostz on October 27, 2001, 06:53:59 PM
why do you keep fucking up Niel Young?
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Post by: Rubycon on October 27, 2001, 10:12:15 PM
TD we love you.
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Post by: leafy on October 28, 2001, 06:46:26 PM
granny smith has plucked me from the branch of sobriety :D
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Post by: tony on October 28, 2001, 07:55:25 PM
here we go, here we go, hope the van gets there ok, and its a full show,i know mickys gonna be on fire,ohh i cant wait, i know its going to be a good one,sunday night in leicester could be worse,(meybe) see you later   tony
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Post by: Anna on October 29, 2001, 03:40:21 AM
And, tonight they played:

Do it.
Hangin' on.
Love isn't love.
C'mon.
The Ride and the View.
Popemobile.
Many are Called.
encore:
Bananas

I didn't bother requesting DotF !!
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Post by: tony on October 29, 2001, 04:22:03 AM
nice to have met you anna, well what a show only 70ish people there but the band were on fire sound was great everyone had a great time and the jones boy was right on form best cmon and many are called ive seen live for a long time .  see you at swansea next
cheers for now tony ,tired but happy.
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 29, 2001, 11:49:59 AM
When's the Autumn Tour?  Oh shit, I've missed it!!!

Nice to see a bit of variety in the set even if mostly in the order they tackle the songs.  Also nice to see Romain having been put to bed for a while, but it would be nice to have Daughter as a barnstorming finish.

See you all in Swansea
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 29, 2001, 11:52:00 AM
Mind you, it looks totally different but all they've done is swapped Ride and Do It about.  Fooled again!!

By the way, do we call it Do It when it's guitar led and Conflict Of Interest when it's keyboard led?

I'm a Conflict man myself
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 29, 2001, 02:03:46 PM
Sounds a great gig in Leicester last night; Tony you deserved a full set after last Sunday's disappointment. I guess Bob and Gareth must have enjoyed being able to play their own drums and keyboards too.

No luck with with the Rory box set - looks like it will have to be mail order for that. I did pick up a Southside Johnny Best Of on Rhino, Chappo's last but one live album from 1999 and a double pack of Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and 3 Sides Live which was pretty reasonably priced at ?22. That's this week's listening sorted out.
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Post by: Mark Davies on October 29, 2001, 02:12:39 PM
Charlotte gig. Deke had  big problems with his amp - chunks of C'Mon and Many are Called ended up being Mickey jamming to fill in waiting for Deke to come back online - no bad thing. Deke spent much of the evening looking v. pissed off, but delivered a killer Ride & The View during a brief spell when everything worked. Strangely, I also had camera problems during C'Mon - some strange empathy with the band that I could well do without.
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Post by: Mark Davies on October 29, 2001, 02:58:38 PM
I didn't wish to imply that Deke being offline was "no bad thing" - it was Mickey's jamming I was referring to. Deke remains my hero, and can do no wrong. His amp is a different matter...
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on October 29, 2001, 03:34:52 PM
Good to see Ride returning to a mid-set slot.  I have always felt it was too good to be an opener and all the more enjoyable when you are listening to it among a fully "worked up" audience.  Do It/Conflict may be a better choice for an opener.

Rob. I recall hearing about a year ago that Donal Gallagher was putting together a set of Rory's live acoustic recordings.  Would this be part of your box-set?
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Post by: Allan Heron on October 29, 2001, 03:44:25 PM
Rory's acoustic set has still to see the light of day.  I must say that I'm pretty hacked off about the new live box set having bought the remastered versions of the albums when they were reissued (as, no doubt, did many fans).  We're now being asked to buy these again (albeit at a reasonable price - about ?24) to obtain the CD of newly available stuff.   At this stage, I've no intention of buying this box and will look to get a copy of the additional CD by fair means or foul.

You do expect something better from Donal Gallagher....or maybe I remain outstandingly naive.
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Post by: Rob Davies on October 29, 2001, 04:03:41 PM
Dave, the acoustic set is not included in this box set; the live albums in the set are Irish Tour, Live in Europe and Stage Struck and the 4th is the Amsterdam bootleg. Allan has been on the lookout for the acoustic album too - it has been trailed in the Mail Order section in Mojo for ages but I don't think it has ever appeared ? I must admit that I don't mind where Ride appears in the set as long as they play it !
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Post by: George Jones on October 29, 2001, 05:33:35 PM
No I am not the famous country and western singer!!!!!!!.I will however prove to STEvil Vs 2001 that I am Jones Jnr,because I know this. On my fathers old gibson 335 what distinguishing feature did it have on both cutaways send your e-mails to huwbuw.hotmail.com and give me your answer. I will then announce the people who got it and no Julian you can not enter because you probably know already. If you are masters of the art YOU WILL KNOW!!!!. NOW GET LOOKING THROUGH THOSE SCRAPBOOKS!!!!!!!!!. P.S if you want to check out some good new albums manfans, get Super furry Animals- Rings around the world, according to Noel from shiadwell they are all man fans.Have a listen and find out for yourselves (i think there is an influence of Man in there)P.PS AND DYLANS NEW ONE TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 29, 2001, 07:16:36 PM
I reckon somebody's been feeding him too much red meat.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 29, 2001, 07:42:15 PM
And verily the Lord sent down his begotten Son to spread the Word.  And the Word was that Super Furry Animals might roam the earth and carry the word of Man, and the prophet Dylan shall be placed on high.  And the sign shall be the cutaways on his guitar.

Must be getting near Christmas.

Now was that Dylan the Thomas or Bob variety?  :confused: They say the Thomas one is very big in Swansea.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 29, 2001, 07:48:14 PM
For five minutes the (lion) might need a draw :p
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 29, 2001, 11:29:13 PM
Perhaps I will bring Deke a new amp for Christmas... Ho Ho Ho
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 12:09:25 AM
Tony, it was good to meet you too.  Thanks very much for the CD.  I felt quite rattled when I finally arrived at the Charlotte.  Being stood on a train packed with drunken oafs (aka Chelsea football fans) wasn't a pleasant ride or view!  Then I couldn't get a taxi and had to walk around the city on my todd in search of the venue.  Still, could've been worse - at least I hadn't missed anything when I eventually did get there.  And, blessings, that crotchety old Manvan had beaten me to it !!*

Great gig despite Deke's amp problems.  Took a few attempts to get those seagulls in flight.  Micky was on god form and even included a natty dance step during Ride.  Nice solo spots from Gareth and Bob.  A "The Mensa boys are in tonight" comment from Martin.  I was getting fed up of hearing Bananas as an encore, but last night's ended the show on a real high note which would only have been bettered if they'd managed to squeeze a Daughter in too.  

Dang !!  That's what you get for not keeping your wishes to yourself.

*Leicestershire gets hit by a minor earthquake (although biggest for 250 years) minutes after the Manband arrive.  I wasn't a bit surprised.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 01:06:20 AM
Rob, I've just got SJ new album "Messin' With The Blues". Disappointing.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 02:11:26 AM
thanks for the reviews. Jules, this place just keeps getting stickier.
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Post by: George Jones on October 30, 2001, 12:16:45 PM
MMMMM!!! Red Meat. By the way in Swansea it is Dylan Thomas week, he is a popular lad. Bob Dylans album I ment (check out track No 2 called Mississippi). It seems that a lot of Manfans  dreams might come to life , seems like a Roundhouse gig might go ahead. Ive only seen that one in pictures and on the H.T.V vid. Recently the band Spiritualised recorded an orchestra in the Roundhouse for there new album see Classic Rock.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 01:32:12 PM
George, I've no idea what was so special about your dad's 335. The few pictures I've seen of it don't appear to show anything unusual. Got me beat pal. Does this mean I have to give my Manorak back?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 01:51:51 PM
I'm sure there's a link between George Jones (country singer) and Micky Jones. Mike Nesmith's in there somewhere. Anyone help?
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Post by: George Jones on October 30, 2001, 01:58:06 PM
The cutaways used to have stars ingraved on them but he took them off because he thought they were crap. I just thougt it would be a giggle to see if anyone would know. Dad is playing on thursday with Contraband at the Adam and Eve with the immortal wizzard Clive John.
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Post by: George Jones on October 30, 2001, 02:07:05 PM
You"ve earned a manorak but you"ve also earned plenty of attention on your website,Over 32000 visitors thats quite amazing keep up the good work. P.S Are you coming to the Patti gig I booked work off for it yesterday
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 02:15:55 PM
St Evil, you could probably get there through Chet Atkins and Dave Edmunds. You might even go Jones G. - Atkins C. - Knopfler M. - Williams T. - Jones M.
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Post by: halfamix on October 30, 2001, 03:38:08 PM
Hi All
Glad all you lucky fellows had a good time on Sunday night and good to hear that the blue van made it to Leicester?
:cool:
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Post by: Pilot of Purple Twilight on October 30, 2001, 03:49:31 PM
Now it would be interesting and highly enjoyable (I think) if the mighty Man and the mighty Tangerine Dream jammed together! Imagine those improvised guitars mixing it with those swirling keyboards......Mmmmm Nice.
:cool:
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Post by: tony on October 30, 2001, 05:29:49 PM
man and TD jammin oh nooooooooooooo!!
IF THIS HAPPENS DEKE WOULD NEED A BED ON STAGE MICKY WOULD BLOW EM OFF STAGE ANYWAY IF THEYCOULD HAVE JAMMED WITH ANYONE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LATE GREAT  FRANK ZAPPA NOW THERES A THOUGHT.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 05:38:19 PM
I reckon the early seventies gigs in Germany must have been something like that. Deke recounts some tales in his first book, of how they'd play all nighters, free-form jamming through the early hours and with various folks gradually dropping off to sleep onstage. I think there might even be a photograph somewhere.

Perhaps they could merge the bands and call themselves something appropriate, like The Rockin' Somnambulists, because MAN sure do rock.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 30, 2001, 06:21:44 PM
By the sound of it Edgar Froese might be able to lend Deke a reliable Amp!
I wonder if the bands ever did run into each other in the heady days of the early 70's in Germany?
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Post by: halfamix on October 30, 2001, 06:28:56 PM
I wonder if I could ask alls advice?
For several years now I have been trying to complete my MAN vinyl LP collection but have had trouble getting hold of the late sixties and early seventies LP's as they are just too expensive,my question is: Is it worth buying the re-issues (If I'm right these are on 180g vinyl?) or should I continue looking for a bargin on the first few original LP's. (Thanks) :cool:
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Post by: halfamix on October 30, 2001, 06:31:17 PM
Or should that be a Bargain
:o
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Post by: Rover on October 30, 2001, 06:34:01 PM
Tangerine Man. Quite possibly. Transits sometimes do have sloppy steering, particularly back in the 60s.
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Post by: tony on October 30, 2001, 06:49:57 PM
i sometimes wonder if deke nods off during c'mon .
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Post by: tony on October 30, 2001, 06:56:37 PM
halfamix why dont you list the lps you need people may have stuff to sell, you never know.
ps i got the cd open air burg herzberg, wir sind kinder der revolte vol 2 there is a live edgar broughton track dreamlights in your eyes (should be greenlights)do you want a copy. i really wanted vol 1 any one know where i can get a copy.
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Post by: The Astrophobia Man on October 30, 2001, 07:19:42 PM
Half mix,i i did ask martin ace this question in the Pontypridd district club
on 28,12,99 and he said NO.Quite surprisingly  i thought in those heady days of German touring,they might have bumped into each other somewhere,and enjoyed some quality lebanese or perhaps morrocan,perhaps they cant even remember
:cool: ;D
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Post by: Mike Burgess on October 30, 2001, 10:17:47 PM
Halfamix, I may be able to help you with some early Man Vinyl. Since my record layer went to the great turntable in the sky, they need a good home to go to.  Email me if interested.
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on October 30, 2001, 11:12:24 PM
Tony - I have the first Open Air Burg Herzberg CD (Gong, Guru Guru, Hawkwind, Faust, Embryo, Chris Karrer and Man (Ride and the View, 10 minutes long). E-mail me if you're interested.
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Post by: Sore Did on October 30, 2001, 11:32:01 PM
No wonder Mike's off his vinyl if he's got a record layer.

DOES IT MAKE YOU GO DEAF?
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Post by: Mike B on October 31, 2001, 12:15:04 AM
Always in desperate need of a 'P'
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Post by: Adam on October 31, 2001, 01:44:52 AM
anyone know where to get a CD of the Man BBC radio one? my last man cd. :D
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Post by: adam on October 31, 2001, 01:54:07 AM
from the past of course. Roll on Manband.
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Post by: *snickers* on October 31, 2001, 04:41:19 AM
... the best i ever had ... eh, mix? :cool:
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Post by: the seeker on October 31, 2001, 01:07:47 PM
all vote for Man as best contribution to welsh music, or you could pick Shaking Stevens. go to the welsh music awards.com
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 31, 2001, 04:31:29 PM
Well perhaps, if you supplied a link, we could. Shouldn't you be busy composing?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on October 31, 2001, 07:15:02 PM
Adam, have a look on GEMM (link on the left) searching for Deke Leonard, you'll find a couple of copies towards the end of the list.

Then you have to start looking for the singles.
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Post by: Tim W on October 31, 2001, 09:06:46 PM
There's a review and photos from the Charlotte gig now available at www.ringsoft.demon.co.uk/man/

And while I think about it, there's a bit of news at www.malcolm-morley.com ... some of the forthcoming archive material will be taken from Richard Treece's remarkable scrap book, which should really be kept at the British museum for the sake of posterity.

Malcolm is also very chuffed that his protege and Aliens contributor Hope Grant has been signed by Sony.
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Post by: Tim W on November 01, 2001, 02:20:45 AM
when displaying one's man disc collection, does one typically order them in strict chronologic order in a single group or split the groups by catagory? If single group what do you do with the issues with more than one date on 'em?
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Post by: halfamix on November 01, 2001, 04:40:42 AM
Hi All
Does anyone have or has seen any of the vinyl re-issues of the first couple of LP's? I wanted to know if they came with the original artwork and gatefold sleeves and if they are on 180gram vinyl as I've been learnt to believe. Found a couple of the first LP's on re-issue at ?10 each.Which has to be cheaper than the originals will be if I can find them.:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 01, 2001, 12:33:24 PM
Halfamix, I think the 180gm re-issues come with the original (UK) artwork, with minor changes. Much like the 'See For Miles' releases kept the spirit intact but added an occasional new company logo here and there.

You'll find the Pye and Dawn original issues pop up fairly frequently in Record Collector (much of their traffic has moved onto the RC website now, but the mag is still a reasonable read). Prices tend to be somewhere between ?10 to ?20, depending on condition, but mostly nearer the ?20 end.

The same price range sounds about right for the US (Manpower) edition of 'Revelation' and the German (cow cover) edition of '2 Ozs Of Plastic With A Hole In The Middle'. I'd expect to pay much less for a 'See For Miles' re-issue of either. Not that I'm buying.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 01, 2001, 01:36:29 PM
just wondering - I'm just wondering why you don't get out more..
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 01, 2001, 02:20:04 PM
just wondering - surely you'll arrange them alphabetically on Mondays, chronologically on Tuesdays, categorically on Wednesdays, chromatically on Thursdays, volumetrically on Fridays. Just like everyone else does.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 01, 2001, 02:59:47 PM
Anyone know what's happened to the Radio Never Say Die web site? Can't seem to get it any more
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 01, 2001, 05:45:49 PM
does bob richards look like harry potter or does harry potter look like bob richards
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Post by: halfamix on November 01, 2001, 05:49:40 PM
MAN LP's have to be displayed all around the room with several half rolled numbers being skinned up on them, guests then wonder whom this band they've not heard of before is and you then have the chance to get the disc a spinning so garnishing their head with a little MAN
COOL
:cool:
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Post by: Ian Johnson on November 01, 2001, 06:00:24 PM
Now I'm confused....batting along the autobahn near Bonn on Monday I rooted out a tape with no label on to find a cracking live version of "In Search of Sarah..." Now I can't find which bloody CD I taped it off...HELP...someone!...by the by, apart from that, this week I 'ave been mostly listening to The Hamsters Hendrix Memorial concert, Helps Beware the Shadow, and Robin Trower (the first 2 albums). Nice.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 01, 2001, 07:09:29 PM
Johnners, I'd guess "Looking For Ms Cheeseman And The Indian Chief" would be from "Radio One Live In Concert".

How was Bonn? Bonnie?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 02, 2001, 05:39:52 PM
Of course when it comes to how to irder Man CDs, the ones that really blow it are BiTF (live and studio, with two different line-ups) and Rare Man (many different line-ups, sudio plus live, one re-issued single i.e. Bananas, which itelf was issued in 1975, from the same sessions which spawned BiTF). What I tend to do at this stage is sneak off and quietly masturbate at the thought of a Roundhouse gig :o ...I was there at the Sunday night of All's Well that Ends Well when I was a school boy :D:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 02, 2001, 06:19:43 PM
...ah, found it. Ta muchly.

....filed under D for Leonard, not M for Man...( actually a lie, as all my CD's are in a large heap in the corner, but hell who gives a monkeys)

...and it was in the land of sauerkraut and sausages, the sun was shining, the beer was bon(Bonn?) and the Frankfurters German.
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Post by: halfamix on November 02, 2001, 06:25:27 PM
Just noticed there are a couple of nice MAN flyers on e bay.co.uk. Welsh Connection and a 1970's Liverpool gig flyer. Bidding starts at ?20 but there is only a couple of days left. I think they are to expensive but they are nice. Wish I had a spare ?20!
:cool:
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Post by: Edgar Froese on November 03, 2001, 12:58:56 AM
The pinnaqcles of life:eek:
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Post by: Arthur Daley on November 03, 2001, 02:42:00 AM
Halfamix, wot RU on? :cool:
?20 for a 5"x8" piece of paper?  The same guy is also selling a Petula Clark 1970's UK Palladium Programme - much better value!
Arf Arf!
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Post by: just wondering on November 03, 2001, 03:40:01 AM
cumin trip-my gas mask's in the shop.
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Post by: sad party on November 03, 2001, 04:35:32 AM
ok, so i never made it to the round house. did you make it to the aussies place with the marantz on 23 hours a day?
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Post by: sad pantry on November 03, 2001, 11:12:06 AM
Arse
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Post by: Germaine Pantry God on November 03, 2001, 11:19:23 AM
...and it was in the land of sauerkraut and sausages, the sun was shining, the beer was bon(Bonn?) and the Frankfurters German...and to the south a loud explosion and warm southerly winds..what proportion...else we were up against...what could it be we were up against in this hells kitchen full of um pooh pahs and rat a tat tats?
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 03, 2001, 11:26:48 AM
okay that may have been me fooling around on the two previous posts.  To Leafy...I have been infrequent in my email checking, it's good to here from you. And the sombere zombies with sombreros were still a few candies short of a pinata he noticed on his sojourn. the impossibilities filled his heart with the possibillities, and the beverly hillibillies did a granny dance unti jethro learnt to wittle a little.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 03, 2001, 11:36:23 AM
I've started mixing my first CD utilizing my mini disk to VCR tape technology studio in my bedroom. Any suggestions for a MAN song we all would love Maurice to re-invent? I'll try to ovecumbent my incumbent lazis to get it done. My plan is to have a CD available for free sometime in the near future. Capitialism...ARSE.  What's your MAN song? I only have to buy (and figure out how to use a ) CD burner.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 03, 2001, 11:45:57 AM
Most and sew the perplexisms of doubt amongst the mighty acorns who so humbly oak out a livingof the time I have to shed a few days befor I return to my cowardly fields of postistic dreams...but I have to admire my own work with this one "
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 03, 2001, 12:05:17 PM
And so the root of all addiction was proven to be lies to one self...denial...but don't be so hard on your self because lies and deceit are the brilliance of a monkey hiding a bunch of banannas! You don't want your banannas stolen do you?
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Post by: halfamix on November 03, 2001, 03:29:31 PM
Arthur you know full well what I'm on
:cool:
As I said ?20 is too much of the folding! But they are nice flyers!
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Post by: tony on November 03, 2001, 09:40:31 PM
saturdays here again, crack open the holstein ian and sue comin round to play man band cds and stuff, to night its gonna be the star club, and zappa's live in new york  and also the torture never stops from zoot allures, your all welcome bring booze and smokes  have  a great weekend   cheers  tony
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Post by: Edgar The mellotron Messiah. on November 04, 2001, 01:24:02 PM
Have been to visit,(The deadly silver crosses)with my(supernatural accomplice).
:eek:
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Post by: The Specific Gravity of Smile. on November 04, 2001, 08:55:16 PM
Bring me the pongmaster.:p
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Post by: Drunken Mozart in The Desert. on November 04, 2001, 08:57:56 PM
Or,should i say fetch :rolleyes:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 04, 2001, 10:59:57 PM
The latest article in the Brain Splaats series on songwriting has just been loaded. This one features an in depth look at "22 Lost Marbles". One of the rarities in the Brain's catalogue, this has so far only seen an official release on the Ptolemaic Terrascope's cover disc (issue 30). It's been around since the fruitful days of 'Shambaholic', and here you can follow the song's development since then. There's a live bonus song too, never before available.

Don't forget, the downloads only stay active for one month, get 'em while they're hot.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 05, 2001, 12:47:32 AM
This weekend I have been mostly listening to
Genesis, The Lamb, cracking keyboards
Man, Twang, some great songs
Lenny Kravitz, some old stuff
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 05, 2001, 12:49:22 AM
I've always wanted to be 1118
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 05, 2001, 11:12:24 AM
And to finish off Sunday night, I listened to
Man, Live in London
Ry Cooder, Crossroads ( courtesy of Alan)
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Post by: Rob Davies on November 05, 2001, 02:33:46 PM
I listened to the first side of Lamb on Saturday, and half of Three Sides Live last night ( One for the Vine and Fountain of Salmacis were the highlights of that). I have not listened to Lamb for about 10 years - it was one of those that I always meant to buy on CD after the record player packed up but never got around to. Great album. Chappo's double live In My Own Time is worth a listen too.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on November 05, 2001, 08:35:44 PM
Just sat down to the superb SECONDS OUT.
The second CD of the set is awesome.
Suppers ready,The cinema show,Dance on a volcano and Los endos,its enough to give you quivers down below.Alot of people said they were past it after Gabriel,but how wrong they were. Collins Banks,Rutherford,Hackett with the Multi talented Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford,a real humdinger of a double CD.
Genesis live is good,but Seconds out is easily my favorite live album of theirs.
Dig out that old double vinyl,listen and enjoy a  Quality piece of music.
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Post by: Adam on November 05, 2001, 10:47:09 PM
Man stuff in the player this week: Live Padget Rooms, Slow Motion and Official Bootleg. That version of Chinese Cut is mighty hot. Padget shoud also get a nod for cover art, very nice indeed. That's an interesting little box up there... :cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 06, 2001, 02:21:45 AM
It's amazing what you can turn up without even looking for it.

Although the site isn't fully operational yet (looks like an expression of hopeful intent rather than a fully realised vision) this would tend to lend weight to the rumour that the All Electric Fur Trapper's daddy is still kicking about. Somewhere.

No contact details though, so I can't even say thank you to him for writing "Daddy Put The Bomp".
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 06, 2001, 04:30:15 AM
Germaine Pantry God is Maurice. Must say that I'm stoked that old Genesis is getting a listen...as they were always my favorite up there with Man. Three sides live is awesome. I see my brother John. Rain drops keep falling on my head. Get me out of this cage.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 06, 2001, 04:38:37 AM
No matter what aversion to Phil Collins Deke has (had) I think Phil is a top flight musician that has deep sentiments to experimental music.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 06, 2001, 04:42:07 AM
I've lost everything and I give you my soul.  for the mean time.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 06, 2001, 11:35:32 AM
We'll look after it for you 'til you get back.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 06, 2001, 11:55:45 AM
I'm a guitar picking ghost
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Post by: halfamix on November 06, 2001, 03:32:13 PM
Hi All
All this talk of Genesis got me searching through the vinyl to see what I had,just given "Lamb" "Trespass""Nursery Cryme" and "Then there were Three" a spin all excellant LP's which I had forgotten about as I was always a bigger fan of Charisma label mates "Van der Graaf Generator"
:cool:
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Post by: White Eagle on November 06, 2001, 03:37:26 PM
Edgars Mellatron, be careful of those "Silver crosses" as what they conceal might be very unpleasant!
:eek:
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 06, 2001, 03:39:37 PM
I've always been a sizable Genesis fan, but have always been of the opinion that "And Then There Were Three" was easily their weakest album.  For all the abuse he takes (and Ian's not started on him yet) he is one of the finest drummers going and he does have a pretty good record when it comes to experimentation.  Now, all those who have the Tarzan soundtrack in their collection, hands up!!!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 06, 2001, 06:17:44 PM
...I never said he wasn't a capable sticksman...my well established hatred of Fill Collins comes from those cheeky chappy winky wanky plink plonky sparse pointless little ditties like "Coming up for hair tonight,wo-oh" upon which he built so much of a career. I was never a big Genesis fan, though some of the early Gabriel stuff was engaging enuff, and I actually quite like parts of Abacab, with ol' baldie on vocals, no less. In the meanwhile I am sweeping up Little Feat CDs to replace some of th4e casettes I used to own, so you listen to collens and I'll stick Lowell George, thank you...
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Post by: Ian Johnson on November 06, 2001, 06:19:43 PM
....err... that should read you listen to Collins and I'll stick WITH Lowell George....fat finger syndrome I'm afraid. Did I mention I also hate Riff Clitoris????
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Post by: Ian Johnson (again) on November 06, 2001, 06:24:15 PM
...and while I'm on the go, I finally gave up and bought Dark Side of the Moon on CD yesterday. I used to own the vinyl (probably still do) but it has been on my list of albums I used to like but are too popular to own. In Our Prive yesterday they were playing the new "Echoes" compilation, and had DSOTM in the sale, so I gave in to temptation. Does that make me a bad man?
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Post by: Peter Gabriel's Bald Head on November 06, 2001, 06:35:51 PM
Well, I reckon Phil says more in three minutes of Groovy Kind Of Love than that weird bastard Waters and his cohorts manage in 40 minutes (although it's probably less) on Dark Side Of The Moon.  Much better employed spending your money on the latest Steps album - concept or what!!  (And my favourites the little Welsh girl!)
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Post by: ron sanchez on November 06, 2001, 10:32:00 PM
I found it curious that there was nothing from Obscured By Clouds on the new Echoes comp. I always rated that as one of the best mid period Floyd albums. It's a lot like DSOTM, with out the concept. Just a lot of great songs. When we asked Gilmour why they never really played anything from it live, he said "Richard didn't like it"?????That's odd cause Richard Wright wrote a good number of songs on that one.

I'd have to check again, but I think they also overlooked the sound track to More. Another good record with a few Floyd classics.

As for p Collins: Having seen him a few times, I agree he is a good drummer. But when we interviewed him, it was clear he was a real tw*t. Makes it hard for me to care much about anything he did....

Hey Jules, thanks for the update. The new Brain Splaat illustrates how a song was saved from the trash bin. Seven years of work, and I just gave it away to the Terrascope. Oh well. :confused:
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Post by: My Name is Nobody on November 07, 2001, 12:15:15 AM
Many (dark side of the) moons ago I bought "The Honest One" CD and the thing I always wondered but didn't want to spend more money to find out was - is the scratch during one of the tracks ("Spunk (b)(r)ock", I think) still present on the Voice and Eagle reissues? By the way, atleast that CD had historical interest to save it - but isn't "Rare Man" the worst CD in the history of Man? They should have put a warning on the cover - Angel Air warned about the sound quality of their Atomic Rooster "Live and Raw" CD and that sounds a hundred times better!!
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Post by: the masked skeptic on November 07, 2001, 12:27:11 AM
:mad:don't even get me started about Rare Man! Bad tapes, awful cover, what else could they do wrong. It was bad enough that they bootlegged their own albums, copied from their own scratchy copies. There should be a great compilation of all the odds and sods, but their isn't (not that you can buy anyway)
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Post by: The Loan Arranger on November 07, 2001, 12:31:40 AM
:rolleyes: Yeah sure, but why get all steamed up about it? Missed opportunities on the cover, notes and some tapes fer sure, but the big opportunity (for us to hear some otherwise unavailabe stuff) got hit. It'd still be cool to put together a mock-up of the lost German album though.
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Post by: floydinian on November 07, 2001, 01:50:44 AM
why just today on the train i thought should i get the PF CD when i read in the poxy murdoch rag that TDSOM sells 8,000 copies a week and has been in the charts 1,281 weeks. holy cow, batman! Doesn't everyone remember where they where the first time they heard it? I recall there were some temple balls involved... :cool:
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Post by: dynamite on November 07, 2001, 02:12:51 AM
i love Rare Man. One of the best Banana's i think, too bad my burner always crashes when i try to compile it. The lost songs from Slow Mo., the devastating Last Birthday Party, What a Night, Eating... all bloody brilliant.
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Post by: Nine Bar on November 07, 2001, 03:50:32 AM
Floyd dissers beware there is talk of Waters rejoining the rest of the boys as his attempt at solo stardom was such an obvious failure (this does not include "Amused to Death" which is an excellant album!)
I have heard talk of some new material as well which is about time as "The Division Bell" is now 7 years old.
:cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 07, 2001, 11:20:14 AM
Pigs might fly before Waters rejoins Floyd - oops, they've done that!!  Seriously, I think its more likely that John Lennon will be resurrected and the Beatles reform before that happens, particularly with all that has been said.  It would be highly amusing (to death or otherwise) to listen to reformed Floyd with Waters playing stuff from the last two studio albums....or maybe they'll take The Final Cut on the road!!!!

Gilmour has indicated that he has no plans for a further Floyd album at the present time, and I think you can take this to mean there won't be one.

An interesting point from Ron about PC, but I'm not certain that him being a prat should necessarily detract from an appreciation of any music he contributes to.  I'm always very wary of meeting musicians that I admire/respect/idolise (delete as necessary) precisely because your own mental image of them may bear no relation to them in reality.  It's often best to leave the illusion undisturbed.

Having said that, there's a great chapter in the book Razor's Edge about the authors meeting with Bob Dylan in a restaurant in Camden Town in the 1990's.  It's a fantastic piece of writing and the sheer excitement of the moment is communicated excellently.  Now, if I could just manage a word with Brian Wilson when he's over in January.....
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 07, 2001, 11:24:16 AM
More Waters - apparently his suggestions for the compilation included seven tracks from The Final Cut.

The sound of the point being missed.

(Now that would be a great Waters track title!!)

I'm glad I'm not James Guthrie who is the poor bastard who acts as the middleman for all of the Floyd corporate meetings given that they don't speak and won't be in the same room as each other.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 07, 2001, 01:50:31 PM
I have to admit to being partial to a bit of Floyd every now and then. It was hearing 'One Of These Days" and "Echoes" that began the process of opening my ears to some intelligent music way back when. It was when I began to realise that for me the music would always speak louder and more directly than the words.

The period from 'Obscured By Clouds' through to 'The Wall' would be my preference, although the post-Waters releases have also found their way onto my shelves. I'd agree with Ron that 'Obscured By Clouds' seems to be under-rated. 'Free Four' is a great song (then again I also like Nektar's '1-2-3-4' and Tom Robinson's '2-4-6-8-Motorway' perhaps there's a connection somewhere), and 'Stay' is one that has indeed stayed in my head.

When I bought 'The Final Cut' on vinyl on its original release, it nearly killed the legend for me, and that particular album will not be featuring in my playlist ever again. I find the post-Waters stuff a shade too dense and claustrophibic for my personal tastes, but still worthy of a listen every now and then. The middle period still thrills me each time I go back to it.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 07, 2001, 03:11:46 PM
So how many 'Man' bands are there? - I've just picked up (in a charity shop in Cheltenham for 50p!) an album by an American 'Man', no date (it's a radio station only promo on U.S. Columbia ) but I'd imagine early seventies and entitled 'Sleepy Eyes and Butterflies'. A bit of a curate's egg this LP - the good is great, the bad is ugly! Anyone got any background on this band?
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Post by: halfamix on November 07, 2001, 04:02:57 PM
Kevin. Thanks a million. I almost bought "Sleepy Eyes and Butterflies" from a UK site a couple of weeks back as I thought it was some rare MAN bootleg I had never heard of! Thanks for the info.
I have all the Floyd LP's which are all great but its the mid-period that does it for me, this might be because my first introduction to pychedelic substances was with the Floyd on the turntable!
Now where are those little Liberty caps.
Pot head pixies ahoy!
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on November 07, 2001, 04:13:50 PM
On the Genesis front, it looks like I was telling porkys Allan, as I haven't even got a copy of "And then there were three"!! It was "Trick of the Tale" that I was listening to. (I knew someone had just left the band so the confussion came from that)
And Ian surely you didn't mean "Riff Clitoris" but Clit McTorius! Randy Californias Bass Man (alias for the legendary Noel Redding) on the splendid "Kapt.Kopter and the (Fabulous)Twirly Birds" LP
:cool:
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Post by: Rob Davies on November 07, 2001, 08:02:55 PM
Regarding the weakest Genesis album, everything after Abacab rather than "And then there were three" would get my vote. All seemed too much like PC's solo material and Mike Rutherford's Mike and the Mechanics stuff.

I have never listened to The Final Cut but Not Now John was a great single. Gilmour's comments that Allan mentioned were in the last Mojo (I think) and all the articles in last year's Classic Rock and Mojo would make for an extremely unlikely although extremely interesting reunion ! I saw them in 1988 at Wembley Stadium and it was a great gig. Gilmour seems to be doing some solo London shows in January ?

My Floyd album collection runs to DSOTM and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. I always mean to buy The Wall but it seems hideously overpriced - something like ?29.99 in Tower Records last time I checked. What else of their back catalogue should I look out for ?

Has anyone seen any non-Man gigs recently? I wanted to to see Fish at the Mean Fiddler this week but couldn't get along; Tull are on tour soon and I'd like to see them.
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Post by: Wren on November 07, 2001, 08:38:09 PM
Rob - go for Meddle (worth it for Echoes on all of side two alone) and Animals.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on November 07, 2001, 10:05:25 PM
Its definetly MEDDLE for me.The wonderful ECHOES is my favorite floyd track,and Waters bass on One of these days is magic,Think they smoked some quality substance on Seamus/I am also a huge fan of Animals,that ones always in the CD player especially Sheep.I bought the Video of live at pompeii last year after several times watching it on the box,worth every hard earned penny.
          Best Regards   CJ.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 07, 2001, 10:38:02 PM
Just listened to Big Audio Dynamite, Tighten Up vol 88. Which as very enjoyable.

Now listening to BGTY by Man. It never fails to amaze me how good this album sounds( I now have 3 original  copies, 2 on vynil, 1 on CD, plus copies on minidisc & tape dtted around the house, in cars at work, in portable players etc. It struck me tonight listening to C'mon that although the live version has developed a life of it's own, wouldn't it be good to see Man go "back to the songs roots" and perform a revised version based on the original. And how about Life on the Road back in the set. I love the version on Live in London.
& how about getting Will Youatt and Clive John back in for a couple of gigs?, how about a weekend of Man?, how about a Xmas gig near London?
And how much would Man charge to play at my birthday party, and would I be able to choose the set list( yes Rob & Alan, you'd get an invite, and yes Rob you could include THAT song in the set list).

I most probably couldn't afford it but i@d love to try.
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Post by: Alan Davies on November 08, 2001, 12:11:16 AM
Rob, I'd agree with the comments about Meddle as THE Floyd Album to choose but would add Wish You Were Here which no-one seems to have mentioned. As a track to get blasted and chill out to I'd put Shine On You Crazy Diamond right up there with C'mon off BITF and Drivin' Around. Are you going to any of the Wales games in the next few weeks ? I'm  going to the Aussie match but switching the game to the Sunday has thrown me a bit.. :-)
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Post by: tony on November 08, 2001, 12:20:11 AM
how about a welsh convention again im not sure who organised the last one but we could petition him/her, on a saturday in the middle of the uk birmingham perhaps send your list of who should play and who we should have as special guest, also how about a box set of c'mon over the years aaahhhh ..bliss.
my list.
man
neutrons
micky jones band
contraband
flying pigs
silverbirds
special guest : nektar.
that would be a great weekend.
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Post by: the caustic punster on November 08, 2001, 12:22:42 AM
I saw the PF Pompii movie the first time on a head full of Ah-Cid. I thought I was sitting in the dirt in the middle of the ampatheater with the band. Sort of got sucked in, and then suck out....came to smelling the overpowering smell of the lady next to me and her perfume. The missus was just talking about some brain disfunction where you eat an apple and it tastes like a song or you see the color blue and it tastes like gravy. catch my drift...
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Post by: halfamix on November 08, 2001, 12:51:49 AM
Rob
Well I better put my pennies worth in and say "Wish you were Here" is a must. "Animals" is essential and "Meddle" and "The Wall" have to be added to the collection as well.
I was at the Wembley Stadium gig in 1988 as well which was awesome and with me full of some of Morrocco's finest an excellant time was had!
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 08, 2001, 03:26:39 AM
Rob, the Floyd suggestions that have been made already are definitely worth following up on as soon as possible. Meddle, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall, and Obscured By Clouds are all essential albums for the collection.

Of these, Wish You Were Here is probably the lightest, so you may want to go for Animals (play this one loud and in a darkened room - Pigs on the wing 1 and 2 are pretty trivial but the three core tracks are all knockouts, with Dogs and Pigs (3 Different Ones) softening you up for the killer Sheep), The Wall (well worth the money, and repays careful listening) and Meddle (as mentioned, Echoes is one of the great classic tracks of all time, and you may appreciate why C'mon is sometimes referred to as Man's Echoes) as a priority, then pick up the others.

The Wall came out just as the punk movement was plateauing. It was like they'd waited for the fuss to die down and then released a two disc set that said "This, boys and girls, is how you do it properly."
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 08, 2001, 09:35:07 AM
23rd January 1972. Pink Floyd at Southampton Guildhall. Set 1: Dark Side of the Moon Set 2: One of these Days, Careful, Echoes;  Encore: A Saucerful of Secrets. Quadraphonic sound....We payed 50 pence (!!) for our tickets at the back, but we grabbed a couple of vacant front row seats when the lights went down. You can imagine the impression this gig made on a spotty youth (Rover, you were there, weren't you?). Had been introduced to the Floyd through Atom Heart Mother. Bought Obscured by Clouds that year and saw the film "the Valley" (love to see that again - is it available?). Bought DSOTM on its release, but after continuous exposure to this album (and Supertramp's Crime of the Century) in 73 while living in Halls of Residence grew a heavy aversion, which has only recently worn off. Personal top 5 Floyd albums: Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, Obscured by Clouds, Wish you were here, DSOTM (now just edging out Ummagumma).
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Post by: Rover on November 08, 2001, 10:30:04 AM
No I never did see The Floyd. I think that on that particular evening you had bullied me into mucking out the stables in the bottom field. 13 with a pitchfork.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 08, 2001, 11:20:14 AM
Now A Trick Of The Tail is a damned fine album, and worthy of inclusion amongst Genesis' best.  

Rob - not sure I would agree with your comments about post-Abacab Genesis.  I haven't heard much of Mike And The Mechanics beyond the singles, but wouldn't think tracks like Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea, Domino, Driving The Last Spike (to take one track from each of the subsequent albums) sound much like Collins or Rutherfords solo efforts.   This is an issue that has pissed at least some members of the band off considerably - the point about sounding like a Collins solo number was levelled at both In Too Deep and Hold On My Heart buy they were both Tony Banks songs!!!

Can I also confirm my agreement with most of the Floyd recommendations.  However, I always felt The Wall was grossly over-rated - there's some great stuff on there but it's also surrounded by too much cack.  Also, Waters motivation for writing it (and for the concept of the stage show)
should be subject to more scrutiny.  He's made some great music but his attitude to his fans/fans in general sucks big time.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on November 08, 2001, 12:11:27 PM
St Evil I have been on the look out for Obscured by Clouds aka la valle? for some years, ever since I saw it as a student, pissed. I remember not being able to find the toilet, so I peed in a sink somewhere. Happy days. Don't remember much about the film apart from some people running around covered in mud - everything I have read about it since says it is a truly appalling film though.

On recent gigs, and Genesis, a mate of mine went to see regenesis recently - they played the whole of Lamb Lies Down apparently - and he heartily recommends them for fans of that era of Genesis music.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 08, 2001, 02:51:15 PM
Re Floyd: Its Meddle and Ummagumma for me, (but don't bother with the studio LP unless you want to remember how pretentious things could get in those days).  After that its DSOTM & Wish You Were Here and I still listen to Piper at the Gates of Dawn & Saucerful of Secrets.  All Good Stuff.

Re Recent Gigs:  Walter Trout at Worcester Park (hence non-appearance at GT2.  There, my secret is out).  Stunning, stunning gig.  I'm only sorry that the GT2 turned out the way it did.  Also The Hamsters at Putney Half Moon (not one of their best efforts though).

Re Welsh Conventions:  The last three were promoted by Pete Feenstra (of Worcester Park, Mean Fiddler, Torrington & Bottom Line fame). Pete is a MANFAN, and I suspect we all owe him a big debt of gratitude for his work over the last 10 years.

Sorry. Genesis is not for me.  I'm a Big Bang theory man myself.
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Post by: Tel on November 08, 2001, 03:02:20 PM
It's a shame that seems to be a dismissal of early Floyd. Arnold Layne was on TOTP2 last night and is just excellent. Saucerful Of Secrets and the live Umugumman (but not the studio) I think are essential as is Relics - one of my Fav's.

(We haven't had a good Genesis debate for ages -) As for Genesis, after a period of hating them for Wind & Wuthering, Then There Were 3 and the rest, I thought Invisible Touch was not bad.

What time does the Yes debate begin???
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Post by: Tel on November 08, 2001, 03:51:54 PM
When they played Arnold Layne on TOTP2 they said that was one of only four times Syd had been caught on tape.
I've seen the one of them playing cricket to see Emily play and a tape of Syd sitting in a field looking at some mushrooms in his hands so what's the other one?
If you're in the mood for buying early Floyd then may I also suggest Syd Barret's last album, the madcap laughs, the remastered one with plenty of out-takes.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 08, 2001, 04:30:40 PM
Tel - I certainly wasn't being dismissive of the early stuff.  I still play PATGOD and SoS because I like them, I don't play The Wall (That's dismissive!).

As for YES - First saw them as a support band for Iron Butterfly and was knocked out.  Bought The Yes Album the next day.  Gave up at around the time Wakeman left, as they seemed to have run their course (and by then I was solidly into bass, lead(s) & drums with few, if any, vocals).
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Post by: Rob Davies on November 08, 2001, 04:32:11 PM
Thanks for all the Floyd suggestions; I feel impending bankruptcy coming on but it shall be in a good cause for my musical education. Alan, I won't be able to get along to any of the games this month, but given the performance against Ireland I'm not sure that this is a bad thing ! May God bless Iestyn Harris though. ( How David Young is still captain is one of those enduring mysteries.)

Allan, I'm sure that you are right about the sound of post-Abacab Genesis but I just lost interest after Duke. I loathe the "I can't dance" track ( accurate though it is about my movement skills ), Mama and especially that one where Collins appears as a Jimmy Swaggert type character in the video, and I have never really worked out why. I've never got into Steve Hackett's solo stuff - one second hand copy from Cardiff market of Voyage of the Acolyte was enough for me - nor Gabriel's stuff except for 4, so perhaps it is because I never forgave them for splitting up before I got to see them live. Wind and Wuthering is one of my favourites though Tel !

Yes - another band that I own two albums by. Machine Messiah from the Buggles version of the band is in the top ( or should that be bottom) 5 songs of all time, but the album with Don't Kill the Whale is pretty good. My what a major contribution to musical debate I can make !
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 08, 2001, 04:37:28 PM
P.S. Was the other Syd appearance from the UFO session filmed for a BBC2 arts programme?  I believe the presenter asked them why they had to play so loud and seemed a little bemused by it all.  Those were the days!
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 08, 2001, 04:50:48 PM
So the two albums by Yes that Rob owns are Tormato and Drama - possibly the two (along with Big Generator) likely to be put near the bottom of the pile of Yes albums by most of their fans.  Personally, I think Drama's better than its' reputation but there are any number of Yes albums which knock the spots of the two you own.  The Yes Album and Close To The Edge should be in your collection at the very least.  Anyone heard Magnification?  I think it's a pretty good album, although I'll be giving their concert tour a miss - not wanting to pay ?35 (or thereabouts for a ticket) having seen them 2 years ago on the Open Your Eyes tour (and that's another album for the bottom of the pile!)

Can I confess to a liking for Several Species of Small Furry Animnals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict - now that should have been on Echoes!!!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 08, 2001, 07:43:52 PM
Not so sure about "Close to the Edge" now, although I loved it the first time around.  I would add Relayer and the non-ego tracks from Fragile (5% for Nothing sums them up).

Allan. Did you ever play the "Grooving with the Pict" track at the wrong speed.  There's a bit where the line "That was pretty avant guard, wasn't it" is spoken.  Now those were the days when I had nothing better to do!!!!
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Post by: Alan Davies on November 08, 2001, 07:57:21 PM
Helping to pass the boredom of three trips up and down the M40 this week have been: Dr Feelgood - BBC sessions, Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Californication, Stevie Ray Vaughn - Soul To Soul. (Paul R, the instrumental version of Little Wing on this is worth the price alone. Go and buy it without delay) I nicked the Chilli Peppers one off my son and am quite taken with it.

Thinking about SRV got me pondering what sort of band might be gigging in heaven, Jimi and SRV on twin lead guitars, maybe Duane Allman adding some slide, Berry Oakley on bass with John Bonham on drums? Possibly Lee Brilleaux on vocals & harp.
Any other ideas ? :D
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Post by: Tim W on November 08, 2001, 08:08:51 PM
There would be a queue of guitarists... Chippo for a start.

Anyway... further, better quality photos from The Charlotte gig have now been added to the URL to your left.
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Post by: Rob Davies on November 08, 2001, 08:50:09 PM
As you have spotted Allan I am not very good with Yes album titles ! Machine Messiah is another irrational dislike, although with a story. I bought Drama and Rainbow Rising at the same time from Cardiff market in December 1981, around the time that I discovered that there was more to life than punk and new wave, after having started to buy the Genesis back catalogue. I'd listened to Rainbow Rising lots of times in school but knew nothing at all about Yes other than they were proggie, and you also saw the band's name embroidered on denim jackets in the Valleys and Cardiff , which seemed a bit of a litmus test at the time for a band's credibility . Of all the albums that I could have picked it was Drama, and the first track of the big disappointment was MM. Cue longstanding and unmerited dislike of Yes.

Floyd and Yes are blind spots in my collection so I will probably start with one from each, soonish.
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Post by: Colin Jouxson. on November 08, 2001, 09:35:26 PM
Rainbow rising,Gotta be Rainbows finest hour.Ronnie James in immaculate form on the superlative STARGAZER,&Starstruck and the talented Tony Carey on keys,As far as YES are concerned Relayer minus Mr Rick Wakeman is a massive album.The superb Patrick Moraz,and the unexplainable brilliance of The gates of delirium-YES at their MIGHTY best.
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Post by: Steve Howes balding bonce. on November 08, 2001, 10:09:03 PM
Relayer is the greatest,incredibley complex composition.Steve howe must be one of the greatest technical guitarists
ever,you are right,Who needed Wakeman.Moraz put up a superb show.I have got the loftus road QPR live 1975 gig,Moraz is outstanding.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 08, 2001, 11:23:23 PM
Talking of Rainbow, I never got the chance to see my first ever favourite band, Deep Purple, but saw Rainbow, stood next to speakers, couldn't hear for a week! Richie Blackmore threw his guitar into the crowd, one lad who must have been one of the first to land on it covered in blood......Do I recall a Cardiff City fan on this Board? If so, an amazing fight just after half time last night at Gigg between Bury mascot  and Cardiff City mascot. Both got ejected.Alan, does the Jags mascot go in for anything like this?
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Post by: Adam on November 09, 2001, 02:16:07 AM
Thanks Jules, am now listening to C'mon off the BBC Radio One disc. What a rare and priveleged experience it is to hear this song anew. What a cracking version it is too. The Singles, you say? :D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 09, 2001, 04:08:03 AM
:confused: Ya Wha? Oh yes, the GEMM link. Glad it helped.

:D Good news for brethren in the principality. Another pre-Christmas Man gig is now confirmed. This is at The Point in Cardiff on December 14th. RingoLevio will be supporting.

;-) No news on the American tour though.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 09, 2001, 08:20:04 AM
went to an AA meeting tonight and I must say they have it all figured out. I will be telling them all about how I don't give a shit about four eyed noodle leader this and that and how mom is fucked up. So until then I don't respect myself and don't expect any of me to respect you.
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Post by: Rover on November 09, 2001, 10:22:37 AM
Maurice I have no respect for you or your sentiments. Peddle your ignorance elsewhere.
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Post by: Rover on November 09, 2001, 10:26:53 AM
Back to the adults.
It's so many years since I've heard Yes. I much admire The Yes Album, liked Fragile for a while particluarly te acoustic guitar, but then we had Jules favourite (Topographic Oceans as I remember) which frankly bored the [ants off me and I never returned.
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Post by: Rover on November 09, 2001, 10:31:17 AM
We should all do our best to scroll the nonsense below off the screen (ha ha yes my posts too).
When I first saw Twang Dynasty era Man upstairs in the Nags Head High Wycombe (1992?) I was fooled by Martin's diction into thinking that one of the songs was Man On Earth (actually Mad On Her). To this day I still hear this song and it makes no difference to the lyrical meaning as far as I can tell.
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Post by: mike burgess on November 09, 2001, 11:38:28 AM
I aslways used to hum Topographic oceans to myself whilst fielding deep on the cricket pitch. Sometimes i'd be playing cricket too.  Except side 3 of course. Now that WAS shite.
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Post by: mike burgess on November 09, 2001, 11:39:10 AM
Well, it was a hobby i suppose.
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Post by: mike burgess on November 09, 2001, 11:41:54 AM
Anyone going to see Transatlantic tonight or tomorrow? They're recommended for all you ol' time prog freaks out there. They even have a member of Mar*****n. What more can you ask for?  Well, maybe a pop up Deke  in the middle of the photo section of 'Rhinos..' Worth it at any price.
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Post by: MIke Burgess on November 09, 2001, 11:42:35 AM
I'm struggling now, someone help me out please!
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Post by: Mike Burgess on November 09, 2001, 11:43:04 AM
Nurse! the tablets are wearing off.
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Post by: uriah heep on November 09, 2001, 11:46:10 AM
Now, there was a band. Anyone seing them in December?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 09, 2001, 11:46:39 AM
I always found Relayer and Gates in particular too dense to really enjoy - the Soon sections comes as a blessed relief to be honest.  To Be Over was nice, and Sound Chaser was abysmal.  Their resuumption of a more open sound on Going For The One was welcomed by me for sure (although they blew it again with Tormato).

Rob - you can get your chance to see Deep Purple as they are touring the UK early next year.  Check the link.  Don't worry about the absence of Itchy Blackhead - they are much much better without him.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 09, 2001, 11:46:54 AM
Apologies, seing should have of course read 'suing'.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 09, 2001, 11:47:27 AM
I'm just going for a lie down now......
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 09, 2001, 01:03:43 PM
I much admire The Yes Album, liked Fragile for a while particluarly the acoustic guitar, but then we had Jules favourite (Topographic Oceans as I remember) which frankly bored the [ants off me and I never returned. That was an easy post....
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Post by: Rover on November 09, 2001, 01:44:08 PM
Yes but I had mistyped *ants.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 09, 2001, 02:47:13 PM
I'll still maintain my respect for Topographic Oceans regardless of voices contra.

As I recall I was not long out of short [ants when introduced to the Yes fraternity by A: a tall Welsh bass player with a big nose (not to be confused with a certain M. Ace esq whose influences stem more from the Presley/Holly/Cochrane school), and B: a normally sized English girl with long ginger hair and freckles (she kept her [ants firmly on much to my chagrin). Given such a broad base of appeal it was hard to resist the calls to give them a listen.

Topographic Oceans started the Yes journey, which then went backwards through Yessongs, Close To The Edge, Fragile, The Yes Album. I loved them all in parts, music on a grand scale. It didn't go forwards until 90125 with the Yuggles lineup.

Owner Of A Lonely Heart has another of the great guitar riffs of all time. It's one of the challenges I always put to amp simulators, can it do the OOALH riff (The Pod v2.0 makes a creditable attempts for anyone interested).

Another long gap then until Keys To Ascension 1 and 2, which is more in the cast of the early seventies releases. I haven't been inspired to follow up on these.

Yes have never been top of my list of faves, but have always been an element of influence. A bit of seasoning rather than the main ingredient.

Watching Steve Howe though is an education in it's own right. I've always been fascinated by the absence of any connection between his body language and the music he's playing. It always looks to me like I'm watching the video track from a different song.

He does have an enviable guitar collection. Anyone know his address and the code for his burglar alarm?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 09, 2001, 03:07:59 PM
Maurice, I'm also alarmed and disappointed by the tone and content of your recent bunch of posts.

As I've mentioned before, this is an unmoderated forum, and I have no plans to change that.

The responsibility though lies with the individual poster, to maintain acceptable standards of tolerance and respect for others (whether that be individually or collectively).

I feel you overstepped the line this time.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 09, 2001, 03:35:55 PM
Sassafras supporting Quo at Port Talbot Dec 18 and Hereford Dec 21 not to be missed
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Post by: halfamix on November 09, 2001, 04:05:53 PM
Hi All
Respect and tolerrance of all human beings is what its all about and racist statements don't belong on this board as MAN fans have more intelligence than sinking into a diatribe of incoherrant drivel!
I first came across Yes at boarding school when a prefect played "Yours is no Disgrace" which affected me deeply as I was listening to T.Rex at the time?
The only Yes LP that I own is "YesSongs" as I found the double CD very cheap (The vinyl is a triple I think) anyone got any ideas what other LP's I should get by the band?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 09, 2001, 04:51:22 PM
halfamix - the one's already mentioned as favourites will fit the bill.  You'll be familiar with The Yes Album, Fragie and Close To The Edge from Yessongs.

I'm still listening to T. Rex AND Yes so what's the prob!?! :cool:
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on November 09, 2001, 05:03:53 PM
Blooming marvellous!I come on here to forget about my football team's shortcomings and I have to bump into a Bury supporter.I should have known I was on to a loser when I went avail myself of the facilities before the game and inadvertantly dipped my trousers in a shallow pool of piss.

The mascot fight supposedly started off as a staged bit of fun but apparently Bartley the Bluebird landed one rather too squarely on Bobby the Blue and it escalated from there.Our contingent were shocked and stunned - we thought it was a woman in that costume.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 09, 2001, 07:23:06 PM
Alan Davis wrote
Helping to pass the boredom of three trips up and down the M40 this week have been: Dr Feelgood - BBC sessions, Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Californication, Stevie Ray Vaughn - Soul To Soul. (Paul R, the instrumental version of Little Wing on this is worth the price alone. Go and buy it without delay) I nicked the Chilli Peppers one off my son and am quite taken with it.

It must be a parallel universe, 'cause I've been listening to Dr. Feelgood and Californication, which I nicked off my son, but I haven't been anywhere near the M40. Stll looking for Stevie Ray Vaughn, but making do with Man Live in London and Starsailor (Great voice).
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 09, 2001, 11:18:54 PM
Paul.  Just an endorsement of the Soul to Soul, SRV recommendation (Just to boast...  saw him in up-state Washington, sadly only two months before the accident.)  Try looking in the ?5.99 sale section of HMV.  You might find some other good stuff there as well.
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Post by: tony on November 09, 2001, 11:44:09 PM
i have for sometime now thought that you maurice have lost the plot,you are one sandwich short of a picnic, your racist comments have no place on this board so  dont come back untill you have grown up...tosser.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 10, 2001, 12:00:23 AM
Allan - It's ironic that Deep Purple will pull thousands, yet they are nothing like they were in the mid 70's. They can't do it anymore and playing for the money. Man, on the other hand, are playing better than ever, the old songs (c'mon etc) even now are still evolving, most of the newer stuff is fresh with flashes of old mixed with the new, and the gigs are hot. But barely 100 turn up. It really hacks me off.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 10, 2001, 12:09:02 AM
Wyn -  The man inside Robbie the Bobby is a 28 year old ex amateur boxer. Been ejected from the ground twice and pulled the ears off the P'boro mascot at our previous home game.
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Post by: Rob Davies on November 10, 2001, 01:10:39 AM
Scuffling mascots ( which is the B-side of Duelling Banjos) seems to be a bit of a problem for South Wales clubs as Cardiff and Swansea have attracted bad publicity for people misbehaving in swan and bluebird outfits - how daft can you get ?!

I saw Purple at Wembley Arena in 1987 when Blackmore threw a wobbly and refused to come back for the encore. I was a bit disappointed by them then; lots of volume but no apparent enjoyment on stage - perhaps that is the effect of RB, and the Hell or High Water video was hilarious. They certainly push their product out on CD, and whilst they just can't recapture the sheer energy and excitement of earlier years I suspect that they would still be ok live. Rob W is spot on about Man's wider horizons and why more people don't get along to see the world's finest is unfathomable.

Maurice, I don't believe that you meant your posts below but no amount of upset (for whatever reason) merits such outbursts whether drunk or sober. I am sure that you will retract them when you have time to reflect.
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Post by: Tel on November 10, 2001, 01:43:13 AM
So the Yes debate began!!! I didn't mean it - I was being a little facesious. I still say The Yes Album is their greatest moment - with Time And A Word in 2nd place. I stll listen to these two a lot - Still can't stand Topographic Oceans.

There was a quick mention of Uriah Heep earlier. A great band torn apart by big ego's unfortunately. Heep - they are really nothing more than a nostalgia trip for Mick Box now. The biggest tragedy is that Ken Hensley is now playing in a Heep tribute band!!! They lost the plot when Gary Thain left/was fired and although the next two albums (with John Wetton) had some excellent moments it was obvious which way it was all going to go. It all imploded when Dave Byron's drinking took over and allowed Hensley a completely free reign. It was a shame as one of the greatest gigs I have ever seen was in about 1975 with Uriah Heep at Ipswich Gaumont (now the Regent - and Deep Purple are playing there next year).

Talking of DP - Rob - I think your statement about Deep Purple doing it for the money is a little off the mark. The last two studio albums, pupendicular and abandon, are very good, and the "solo" stuff on the concerto album from 1999 shows a willingness to experiment. There is a tour early next year and it may be worth checking out.


By the way - one of those internet anorak statistics - late last year I read somewhere there were 474 separate Uriah Heep web sites. What can they all say?????? :confused:
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Post by: Tel on November 10, 2001, 01:45:56 AM
Rob - 23:10 - I'm at home - are/were you still at work. GHYSB!!!!!!!!:p
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 10, 2001, 01:51:37 AM
I'd echo Tel's comments about Deep Purple - their current albums are up there with the '70s stuff and live I think they might even be better.  I've just invested in a set of soundboard recordings from their Austrlasian tour from last year and the playing is superb with a lot more genuiue interaction between the band.  They are also mixing up the back catalogue a lot more and are less reliant on the Made In Japan set which they trundled out with Blackhead for years and years and years..........
deffo not doing it just for the money as the creative is well and truly there.
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Post by: halfamix on November 10, 2001, 03:23:49 AM
Maximum respect to Marc Bolan and T.Rex Allan.
What I meant was that I was 11 when sent to boarding school and I had never heard any 'prog' rock before having only listened to the charts and hence T.Rex.
My Bolan collection is still one of the largest collections by one artist that I have and I for one think of Bolan as a true innovator.
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Post by: michael heatley on November 10, 2001, 11:32:58 AM
Just a swift reminder that if you want to be in on Deke's forthcoming solo release (as oer last TWC), email me swiftly. We are making decisions this week on how to proceed. It's even possible we may do a series of limited edition singles (to be compiled later), but to work out the best way forward we need to know who's in. You won't be committing yourself.
Also, to start a thread, woudl epople lile to nominate their fav Deke solo track fo times past and why...? I'll have to go with Map Of India, as the first verse lyric has always seemed far too relevant!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 10, 2001, 12:14:50 PM
If you turn down the opportunity to go and see Steve Morse in action, you're missing probably the world's best living rock guitarist. Not the fastest, flahiest or best coiffured, but the most gifted. His positive influence on Deep Purple has been mentioned below, but don't get fooled into thinking he's all tricks and solos. Morse is an ensemble player of outstanding talent. It's a great tribute to the likes of Jon Lord and Roger Glover that they've been able to raise their standards to match his.

Listen to his solo albums, and especially the Dixie Dregs albums, which are masterclasses for guitar, bass, keyboards and drums.

Um, he is still playing in Deep Purple isn't he?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 10, 2001, 02:39:27 PM
Can't agree that DP's current stuff is up there with the 70's.  I feel Burn was the beginning of the end with a couple of great tracks but mostly poor. Then Stormbringer with not a decent track etc etc. But as they say, "it's all about opinions innit?" My statement about only playing for the money was foolish, but I just don't think there's any spark there. Still with DP,on www.deeppurple.com,they have a recording of a live gig from LA in 1998. I wonder if we could have something like that?  Is it possible, Jules?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 10, 2001, 04:02:54 PM
Does anybody know if the first MONTROSE album was ever released on CD format.I would dearly love to get hold of a copy.
       Regards   CJ.
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 10, 2001, 04:49:04 PM
Deke Solo fave. 7171-551 does it for me every time. With healthy dollops of wah-wah for preference. Nurse, the screens....
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Post by: halfamix on November 10, 2001, 05:42:06 PM
Colin me old mate
101cd.com have copies on import of the first Montrose LP. I've just noticed they are doing most of the Floyd LP's we were talking about at ?8.99 mmmmh now a nice new CD copy of "Meddle" has got to be a must, after 24yrs of skinning up on the cover of the original.
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Post by: Tel on November 10, 2001, 07:24:11 PM
Rob - I still like Burn a lot but I agree about Stormbringer. Perfect Strangers is not perfect but it's not bad as is the same with House Of Blue Light. I gave up after Slaves and Masters with the ill advised attempt to use Joe Lynn Turner as a replacement for IG. (I'll ignore Come Taste The Band which I think is a decent album - just not DP)

Try and get a listen to the Live Abandon album, recorded in Australia in 1999. It's a double but it was hearing this that put me back on the track - I bought it on impulse after AH recommended it to Jules. Allan and Jules are right, Steve Morse (Jules - Yes, even though the Dixies are touring at the moment) has given them the impetus that was needed and also the well documented problems between Mr B and Mr G have obviously vanished. Have you read any of the reviews on the DP web site. There is one that refers to Steve Morse grinning from Ear To Ear because he is playing with his heroes.

My mate Paul (who some of you met at RAH) is a BIG Blackmore fan and I am hoping that he will change his mind on the band which he treats with a certain amount of disdain with RB's departure.
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Post by: Tel on November 10, 2001, 07:29:57 PM
Also have a look at the set lists for the gig's (as Allan mentioned). They're playing stuff at the moment that probably hasn't seen the light of day since the 70's (such as Mary long and Fools).

By the way today has mostly been Procul Harum and Jeff Beck. :cool:
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Post by: Tel on November 10, 2001, 09:01:17 PM
Thanks Tel, I know what you're saying but I mostly agree with your mate Paul. Due to this thread, instead of watching England, I was listening to the DP live in LA recorded in 98. Played some good past numbers such as No One Came, When Blind Man Cries (I think its called), Hush mixed with new numbers. Then listen to Star Club, same year recorded, old songs and new. Can't compare the two. Man blow DP away. Probably will see DP next year, would rather see Rush, now they're still doing it!!
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Post by: Tel on November 10, 2001, 09:01:18 PM
Thanks Tel, I know what you're saying but I mostly agree with your mate Paul. Due to this thread, instead of watching England, I was listening to the DP live in LA recorded in 98. Played some good past numbers such as No One Came, When Blind Man Cries (I think its called), Hush mixed with new numbers. Then listen to Star Club, same year recorded, old songs and new. Can't compare the two. Man blow DP away. Probably will see DP next year, would rather see Rush, now they're still doing it!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 10, 2001, 09:01:32 PM
Rob W, I don't think MAN played a live gig in LA in 1998, otherwise I'd be delighted. Sorry.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 10, 2001, 09:13:50 PM
Don't think I said they did.....did I? (as doubt sets in).  Same year (98) and similar content (mix of old and new), hence my comparison.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 10, 2001, 10:49:35 PM
A favourite Deke track? Just the one? Now that's a toughie Michael. Would it be 7171-551? Or perhaps Razorblade And Rattlesnake? Maybe it would be In Search Of Sarah And Twenty Six Horses, or possibly Fools Like Me?  

None of the above, my personal favourite would have to be the subtle appeal of Broken Glass And Limejuice.

It would be just as tough a choice, trying to decide which of the above list would get kicked out of my top five favourites though.

PS. Rob W, my post was in response to yours numbered 1215. I can't type quickly enough to have caught the later ones. Of course jokes are never funny if you have to explain them. Maybe I should go back to the day job.
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 12:19:35 AM
Fav Deke track!! Pehaps it ought to be limited to tracks that Man have not played. The thing with Deke is he is the Rock'n'Roll side of the band.

I've always liked Jesse for the lyrics. Afterburner Boogie is very west coast (Steve Millerish - he'll probably hate me for saying that) and a great song. Perhaps it needs some more thought.:-(
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 03:26:48 AM
Hyundai is using the opening of Tull's Thick as a Brick in it's adverts in all too accurate mockery. What Man song would you sell a car with, Ride and View? :cool:
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 10:17:35 AM
"I was lying on my hotel bed, there was a hooker on the floor" ? Not sure how many cars that would sell.:-)
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Post by: Colin J on November 11, 2001, 10:41:42 AM
Steve(half a mix)
Thanks for the info on the Montrose CD,i ordered it straight away,just love that album.The 101 site really is a cracker,it really is value for money.Keep your eyes peeled for a new TD release this side of xmas,i think it might be a 2cd from the Bernau concert in Germany of 7,10,2001.Shame theyve closed the guestbook again,i feel they are just being a TAD petty.
      Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: Colin J on November 11, 2001, 10:50:21 AM
Steve
Forgot to mention that Edgars solo LP AGES is available at 101 for a very good price,i dont know if you have it,but its well worth a purchase.It is one track short of the original double vinyl release,but sounds excellent on CD format
The 21 minute classic(Tropic of Capricorn) is worth the price alone.
This is one of his very best.;-)
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 11, 2001, 12:28:58 PM
To sell a car.  How about "Fast and Dangerous"
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 11, 2001, 02:33:10 PM
Favourite Deke track, Eddy Waring from Paget Rooms.

Song to sell cars, Popemobile, surely.

This weekend has been mainly

Best of Groundhogs
Best of Bonzos
Bob dylans Greatest 1967
dido, No Angel(Burning extra copies for the kids)
Man, live in London(stuck in my car cd)
Genesis, Lamb
P J Harvey, is this desire( No I didn't desire it, to mechanical).

With Groundhogs, I always thought of McFee as a wisened old blues rocker, but listening to the lyrics on the tracks again 20 years on, he was an old hippy.
Great guitarist though, very gutsy. Do they still tour?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 11, 2001, 02:34:30 PM
Diamond diary-Awesome gear.
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Post by: Colin J on November 11, 2001, 02:38:24 PM
Ahh,good question.They undoubtably tour,when they decide to turn up?What ever happened to their appearance at the Coal exchange with Man back in 2000.One things for sure,a real quality outfit.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 11, 2001, 02:42:13 PM
Surely with winter upon us, if they were going to use a Tull track, it should be "Skating Away on the Thin Ice of A New Day"
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 11, 2001, 02:45:17 PM
Or to sell a car,especially if it's me buying, how about the Who, "Won't get fooled again"
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Post by: CJ on November 11, 2001, 02:47:49 PM
Or,if they were using a vanilla ice track surely it would be Ice Ice Baby.
:rolleyes:
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 11, 2001, 05:22:19 PM
Alan Davies (no relation) said:
Stevie Ray Vaughn - Soul To Soul. (Paul R, the instrumental version of Little Wing on this is worth the price alone. Go and buy it without delay)

There is no Little Wing on my copy of Soul to Soul - is this the new remastered one with bonus tracks? If so, is it the same Little Wing as on The Sky is Crying cd, which I have got?(an absolutely phenomenal cd considering it is a bunch of outtakes)
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 11, 2001, 07:16:42 PM
My DL favourite must be "Frank Bough" even though I've never heard it, and along with "Eddie Waring" was a Helps tune. It just sounds like a classic. Then there's the superb "Four Corners of Hell". If I'm limited to official albums, I'll reluctantly have to go along with Jules and Broken Glass and Limejuice (Kamikaze)
Incidentally, I have a recording of the latter from the BBC soon
after its release - Ann Nightingale and Alan Black played it on their show.
The track ends with a sigh of pleasure from Ann (she clearly fancied Deke), and Black says "Deke
Leonard with Broken Glass....and the album is Kamikaze, and I think there's
a little bit of the Who in there someplace".
"You think it's the only reason I like it, don't you" continues Ann (Who fan)
"No, not at all , I know it's the only reason you like it"
"Not entirely true..." and into the next track....... Question: What Who track is it most like??
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 11, 2001, 07:21:01 PM
I'm still patiently waiting to buy a copy of Unfinished Business. Michael: Will this ever see the light of day? Might have to beg someone for a copy soon. By the way, what's the track listing? Couldn't find it on the archive...
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 07:48:02 PM
St Evil - Afterburner Boogie (Take 3); I Didn't Ask To Be Here; When Was The Last Time; Someone Is Calling (Demo); Hot Nights And High Spirits; Love Changes: Bad Luck (Demo) Let It Go; Do You Believe Me; This Is Another Song; Can't Keep A Bad Women Down (Demo); Needle In A Haystack; Map Of India (Demo); Joyful Soul; Oh (Demo); Sweet Sweet Love; When Am I Coming Back; Goodbye.  - Howzat!!!!
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 07:49:43 PM
Not A Man track but a Deke one - "Afterburner Boogie" to sell a car?
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 11, 2001, 07:49:45 PM
Stevil2001 said:
My DL favourite must be "Frank Bough" even though I've never heard it.

This message board clearly exists in some strange parallel universe that only Maurice truly understands.
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 11, 2001, 08:41:07 PM
My Unfinished Business was stolen along with the car. More disappointed about losing the tape! Favourite DL track - either Broken Glass & Limejuice or In Search Of Sarah. I remember reading a review slagging off Map Of India saying something like once upon a time Deke Leonard had a scorching single called Diamond Road and is now reduced to this. I've never heard Diamond Road - any opinions please? And any decent hotels near the Patti please?
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 08:44:31 PM
Rob -  Diamond Road is a bonus track on the twofer reissue of Iceberg (along with Kamakazi) - Tel
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 08:50:29 PM
Hit the submit button sorry -its a slow to medium tempo twelve bar with some wicked slide guitar and typical Deke lyrics - something about she kicked him in the head I seem to recall.
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 09:26:45 PM
Sometimes you can tell that a song is a classic from the title alone (or perhaps you're right and you are in a parallel universe). Deke penned another one from around the same time called Ludovic Kennedy, but that just sounds like it must be a disaster. We demand to hear Frank Bough.....
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 09:28:06 PM
Were these Deke BBC Classics inspired by Monty Python Episode 39?
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 09:35:57 PM
I Just Can't Win or Louisana Hoedown are in my prefered Deke solo list. Paul, come to think of it, maybe it was Skating by Tull. That bit with the flute... Driving Around would be good driving around music I bet. I don't have a car. I remember James Taylor's Traffic Jam. Road to ruin. :-)
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 09:45:51 PM
Turning In Circles is another one of the B sides added to the Iceberg/Kamakazi reissues. Fanstastic tune. One of my many favorites. The version of Aching Is So Sweet runs a full two minutes longer than the single!! Get It
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Post by: Tel on November 11, 2001, 09:46:25 PM
wait, i change that to Broken Ovation.
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Post by: Alan Davies on November 12, 2001, 12:51:20 AM
Been to Wales this weekend, journey enlightend by Who's Next and Back Into The Future. Favourite Deke track is a toss up between Hard Way To Live and I Just Can't Win, both off Iceberg. I always tend to think of 7171-551 as a Man song.
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Post by: Cornelius on November 12, 2001, 12:54:51 AM
It was Moorcock who came up with the Multiverse, an infinite number of paraell universes. Perhaps the nexus is located nearby.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 01:29:43 AM
- engage manorak mode -

According to the esteemed Martin Mycock's Mannerisms II, The Helps recorded a version of 'The Only One Who Gets Me Off Is Frank Bough' for the BBC in October 1972. Malcolm was in absentia at the time (presumably this was a cultural exchange with a bevy of absentians).

The recording was broadcast on Sounds Of The Seventies in November that year. Surely someone must have been recording it under the bedclothes?

I've always suspected that this was a retitling of 'Eddie Waring', but I've no evidence to justify that view.

- disengage manorak mode -
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 01:39:07 AM
Mark, spot on regarding The Sky Is Crying. That's in my top three SRV albums, and Little Wing is a standout track. There's also Chitlins Con Carne (which inspired me to track down some Kenny Burrell CDs and was a journey well worth taking), and the glorious Boot Hill.

All the more amazing given, as you say, it was a series of out-takes and rough mixes that he left behind.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 02:41:59 AM
Three in a row. I must be the only person in the whole wide world who's still awake then. Hmm.

:cool: Just finished loading a terrific bundle of pictures that Ron DeGiorgio took at the Truckers gig last month. Plus a review of last weekend's Silverbirds gig at The Tenby (thanks Wren). Two firsts on that one, the first web-review of a 'Birds gig (I think so anyway), and the first appearance of Josh Ace. You'll need to be wearing the Anekin Skywalker hat and a pair of cool shades now Josh, otherwise everyone in the street will recognise you. :D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 02:45:53 AM
Think I'll go for a fourth.

Dear Marge, my youngest son went shopping for clothes on Saturday, and returned home with a black KORN hoodie, multiple 'I heart S&M' badges, and a matching leather collar and wrist bands studded with 3cm long spikes.

What should I do?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 10:34:34 AM
Jules,
I understand your concern. Suggest that you go out and buy an identical outfit, but a few sizes bigger. Share your pain with fellow Manoraks by wearing same to next gig. You will be shown respect.
M
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 12, 2001, 10:50:08 AM
One of my favourite Deke songs (which is also a Martin song) is Nothing Is Happening from the Iceberg album.  Broken Glass And Limejuice and Bad Luck from his other two albums are up there as well
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 03:10:31 PM
Apparently Deke will be appearing on the radio this weekend, on a programme called something like 'Road Tales', which sounds as though it should be very entertaining. Anyone heard of it and know what station it's broadcast on? If it's a station that netcasts, a link would be very welcome.

Keep an eye on Martin's website (link left) for more details as they become available.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 03:23:00 PM
Dear Marge,

I followed your advice and visited the local mosh shop today. After considering my quest for suitable garments briefly, the young assistant (I wasn't able to determine which planet of origin they had beamed in from) offered me a smoked glass mirror and suggested I should 'get real'.

A check of the mirror left me none the wiser. Perhaps I should look in the sun.

One option I tried was to purchase a lead, and to chain my youngest up to the rail in front of the newsagents (with a clean bowl of water of course, I wouldn't wish to cause any undue suffering), in the hope that someone may take pity and offer him a new home. Unfortunately, Sunday evenings in my locality are very quiet, and we received no enquiries.

I'm at my wits end, and don't know what to do. Should I buy a kennel and leave him outside as a deterrent to the neighbourhood burglars?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 12, 2001, 04:46:55 PM
And what is a "mosh shop" ? (Could someone also remind me who the Beatles are ?)

However, my favourite compositions by that purveyor of fine popular tunes Mr Deke Leonard are Liza and 7171 551 with oodles of the aforementioned "wah-wah".
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Post by: halfamix on November 12, 2001, 04:55:26 PM
Jules Confiscate said items of clothing and jewellary from sibling and replace with afgan coat,sandles,patched jeans and a flowery headband and tell offspring to get a life! Mix a little of something nice:cool:in tonights tea and that should do the trick!!
:cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 12, 2001, 05:01:37 PM
Not sure about the Afghan coat in the present climate, mind you!!
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Post by: halfamix on November 12, 2001, 05:03:14 PM
Thanks for the info Colin J I must update my Edgar Froese collection as all I have is a scratchy old vinyl copy of "Stuntman"
So many CD's to buy and so little money!
I hope you manage to get the Montrose CD as I'm not sure what 101cd are like with their imports, let me know please.
They did me a copy of "Optical Race" for ?5.99 which can't be bad.
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on November 12, 2001, 05:07:32 PM
Ha Ha Allen and you didn't even mention that I had spelt Afghan wrong!
Special Forces have just broken into Bristol dogs home and shot all the Afghan
Dogs dead (yes I know its an old one)
:cool:
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Post by: pair of Ls on November 12, 2001, 09:12:30 PM
I know i could use a spelt checker :cool:
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Post by: Sebedeus on November 13, 2001, 02:25:31 AM
My master has informed me of a possible influx of Man fans into my domain, may I say you will all be made most welcome.
We'll go along for the ride and the view.
:cool:
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Post by: Here Comes the Sun on November 13, 2001, 06:17:28 PM
Hare Krishna to George Harrison
:-)
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Post by: Mike Burgess on November 14, 2001, 12:34:12 AM
Just seen this weekend, Transatlantic insert  a medly of Beatles tracks from abbey road, side two I think into their own medly of bits that they stuck together, twice! I think it worked. Now what do people think of medlies, and do you have a favourite one. I'm quite partial to the Genesis one on side 3 (old currency) of 3 sides live- erm in the cage/cinema show/slippermen/afterglow. Great to airdrum to.
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Post by: Larry Prankfer on November 14, 2001, 01:59:32 AM
Merry Prankster Ken Kesey has taken a final mystery tour where the cool aid flows like water. We'll see you there. :cool:
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Post by: halfamix on November 14, 2001, 04:15:00 AM
That is sad news, Ken Kesey was a true gentleman and him and his work had a great effect on me when growing up.
Luckily I have both of his best known books autographed by the man and several posters etc hand signed by Ken and several other of the Pranksters.
Rest in peace, Never trust a Prankster
Still on the Bus
Halfamix
:cool:
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Post by: Daytripper on November 14, 2001, 04:16:06 AM
OK, the first Beatle track that creamed my jeans was Ticket to Ride. Clean lines, off tilt drums, harmonic convergance, heart breaking words still rip flesh.
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Post by: Francis Rossi on November 14, 2001, 09:35:46 AM
Quo do some good medlies
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Post by: Mike Burgess on November 14, 2001, 12:43:42 PM
Someone stol my spelcheker!  And my ability to form a correctly, punctuated.and gramaticalie correct sentenc,
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 14, 2001, 01:56:07 PM
It seems last night would have been a good night to visit the Tawe Delta Blues Club.

Although Johnny Marrs cancelled (due to an unfortunate familly bereavement), the replacement act went down a storm. At the end of the night an impromptu session featured Clive John, Micky Jones, Martin Ace and, in a welcome return, a certain Mr Terry Williams esquire on the drums. I'm told the set included 'Romain' and 'Mercury Blues' amongst others.

Deke's on Radio Wales on Saturday evening according to the latest update on Martin's website. Do they netcast anyone know?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 14, 2001, 03:12:05 PM
The BBC Wales website trailer for Saturday's interview with Deke reads:

Sat 17 Nov, 18:00 - 19:30  90 mins      
     
Former guitarist Deke Leonard gives a glimpse into the rock n' roll lifestyle with behind-the-scenes anecdotes of life on the road with Welsh band, Man.

To which I can only ask, 'former?' :confused:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 14, 2001, 04:34:31 PM
The following link gives details of online listening for Radiio Wales, or satellite if you're lucky enough.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/programmes/radiowales/

:-)
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Post by: Colin J on November 14, 2001, 07:55:48 PM
Its Hawkwind at the coal exchange on friday night,looking forward to a good nights entertainment.I wonder if Barney Bubbles, furry freak brothers and the Chillum tribe are still around,now that would be interesting.:cool: :eek:
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on November 14, 2001, 11:13:46 PM
I know I'm a bit late on the 'covers' debate but I reckon Man would do a splendid version of Television's 'Marquee Moon'. Micky could stretch out on an elongated solo, the ideal counterpoint to Deke's choppy guitar - and Micky would also fit the vocals perfectly. Mind you, the playing would have to be exceptional to outclass Tom Verlaine, still one of my favourite guitarists all these years on since I saw them live in 1977.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 14, 2001, 11:32:14 PM
Clwb Ifor Bach where Man recently played is mentioned in the 2002 Network Q Rally Guide as one of the places to visit in Cardiff. It's a pity the Patti isn't mentioned (not Cardiff of course) as on the Saturday night of the Rally, (24 Nov), the Eyes Of Blue, Silverbirds etc gig is on at the Patti. I'll be in S.Wales following the Rally, so will the Patti allow an 11 year old in (my son, not me!) and my brother, (he of scrubbing the very first JBO off the tape, still watches Steve Harley, and playing Tangerine Dream to the wedding guests fame)? PS Anyone know of any decent Guest Houses/hotels in the Patti area please? Thanks.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 14, 2001, 11:34:39 PM
I seemed to have jumped a year to 2002. Not bad since most things in my life still revolve round the 70's!
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Post by: Adam on November 15, 2001, 03:11:45 AM
Jules, perhaps that was meant to read ex-former.
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Post by: Adam on November 15, 2001, 03:31:08 AM
There was a debate? :-)
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Post by: Howard Chard on November 15, 2001, 03:50:02 AM
The Radio Wales title page intimates that you can listen too its programmes
provided you have RealPlayer8.  As instructed by the BBC, I have deleted RealPLayer7 and tried to load RealPlayer8 - only for Freeserve to disconnect me once and for the bloody thing to jam twice.  After 2 wasted hours I have had to stop.  Anyone have any advice on how I can listen to Deke's broadcast (and commentry on future Swansea games) without going home to the Mam?:confused:
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Post by: Howard Chard on November 15, 2001, 04:00:29 AM
And it goes without saying that my favourite Deke track is "Bad Luck".

Are we all still agreed that Millington is better than Yashin, Herbie is better than Eusabio and Park Avenue are in for a thrashing?
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Post by: Rover on November 15, 2001, 10:23:46 AM
So who is in the line up for the Eyes Of Blue, and when was their last gig?
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on November 15, 2001, 11:03:20 AM
Howard,

I can't really help you with Radio Wales except to say it does work ok on Real Player 8 if you can get it running.

Don't worry about missing football commentaries as they can't webcast them anyway - the official websites own the rights.

Try
http://www.swanseacity.net/match/view/match_live/0,1563,10354,00.html or just click on the link to the left and go to 'the match live'.

Sorry everybody else for talking about football again but he did ask,and let's face it, the J*cks need all the help they can get just now!
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Post by: Tim W on November 15, 2001, 03:29:41 PM
If you are prepared to add to Rupert Murdoch's income, Sky Digital broadcasts BBC Wales on channel 867. Almost as popular as Al Jazeera (channel 674) on my dish.
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Post by: halfamix on November 15, 2001, 03:44:25 PM
Rob
Now anyone that plays Tangerine Dream to wedding guests has to be cool in my book.
Now if only your brother could have played TD before the wedding it would give all parties time to reflect on WHY they need to get married!!!
:cool:
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Post by: Wren on November 15, 2001, 08:42:44 PM
Just had Cob Records latest mail order listing - included on New Releases for Sept, Oct & Nov 2001 is Seashells by the Flying Aces
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Post by: tony on November 15, 2001, 09:26:35 PM
hi wren how ya doing,
has any one been able to get man cd on  repertoire from any where yet,
this weeks music has been ,fleetwood mac live at the beeb,the yes album,donovans brain  carelessly restored art, and the green ray cd great stuff!
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Post by: Del Detmaar on November 15, 2001, 09:33:06 PM
Here here Half mix man,what more could one want on their day of marital bliss other than the gigantic Tangerine Dream,Those guys taught the so called keyboard players HOW to PLAY.Tangerine Dream,Such Top notch Brilliance.My best regards to the bride & groom.
       Best regards  Edgar(The Messiah).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 15, 2001, 09:48:41 PM
I got a note from Wolfgang earlier this week, confirming his receipt of the Repertoire version of Man. Sound quality is apparently excellent, and the bonus tracks (single edits of Daughter and Country Girl) make it more attractive too.

There are a few minor errors and omissions on the liner notes, but of course it wouldn't be a proper Man release without these.

:-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 15, 2001, 10:13:54 PM
Have a listen to Maroubra bay.:cool:
Need i say another word? The man is GOD.
:eek:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 01:36:29 AM
Chaps, I'm bored with all this Tangerine Dream nonsense. Could I politely ask you to take it elsewhere?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 02:58:56 AM
Yet again Tangerine Dream fans are not appreciated (Theres nothing new in that)
But as it seemed several MAN fans also liked TD, I thought a little tolerence and understanding of differing forms of music would have gone down well?
;-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 03:38:50 AM
Tolerance and understanding oozes from my very pores I hope. It's just that the contant banging of the single TD drum has become tedious to me, especially when in a forum not intended for that purpose.

I'd encourage everyone to take in the broadest possible range of musical influences. Single-tracked musical evangelism however, I find rather tiresome.

Perhaps you might consider sharing some of your other favourites with us instead. Bonus points awarded for the greatest possible distance from TD?

:-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 03:51:16 AM
Kraftwerk were always interesting?
Oh no more German synth players;sorry!
:p
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 04:33:45 AM
1 point.

;-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 05:16:53 AM
Really, if we're going to do synth players, we've got to mention the Mighty Bo Hansson, not of Germany, who made the perfect TLOTR sound track in 1970! Attic Thoughts and Magician's Hat also bear fruit. nice. :D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 05:35:28 AM
get right down to it, Deke tickles some mean ivory. see call down the moon...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 07:49:52 AM
For some good mind blowing sounds check out Funkadelic - Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, Maggot Brain!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 10:56:18 AM
So does anyone want me to type up the interview with Deke from yesterday's Llanelli Star or have you heard all his stories before?
As coincidence has it, this week I have mainly been listening to Parlament.
One messageboard under a groove.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 16, 2001, 11:30:13 AM
Fostz - that would be interesting - would you be able to get it scanned?

Listening to Parliament?  I've always found Question Time intellectually challenged and lacking in any depth in exchange for a little knockabout fun.  Maybe Guy Fawkes had the right idea!!

Or wasn't Parliament that group featuring Bill Clinton?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 11:40:06 AM
Buy George, I think you're right!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 03:22:04 PM
Deke to re-activate The Jets as Man don't get out enough....
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Post by: halfamix on November 16, 2001, 03:24:17 PM
Today I have been listening to Arlo Guthrie "Last of the Brooklyn Cowboys"
How many points do I get for Arlo being differant to the unmentionable (TD) sssh
You can get anything you want from Alices Restaurant!!
:cool:
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Post by: Gold Frankincense on November 16, 2001, 03:30:25 PM
Mr Parallel you must be a man of excellant musical tastes as the great Bo Hanson is one of my favs as well but if you really want the synth mistro check out Ian Boddy or Andy Pickford.
(halfamix):cool:
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Post by: halfamix on November 16, 2001, 03:35:14 PM
**ck **uk **ck just found out I've got a Christmas party that I have to attend on Dec 22nd. No Patti Rooms for me then. Are there any other MAN gigs in the pipeline before or after xmas?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 16, 2001, 04:05:39 PM
I thought Swansea was the Xmas party you HAD to attend - sod the other one.

For my part, I'll either be avoiding my office Xmas bash on the Friday night or attending in a non-drinking capacity so that I'm in fit shape to drive the following morning.  More likely to be the former - not drinking is difficult when it's all free.

Daft story from last year's bash - went to the bar, asked for three double whiskies and two double vodkas.  Barman said "Sorry sir, we're instructed not to serve doubles"  Ok, says I, that'll be six whiskies and four vodkas then.  "No problem" said the barman!!!  Daft or what :rolleyes:
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 16, 2001, 05:53:32 PM
Was just checking out the Cardiff photos on the official site.  Pleased to see Micky wielding a copy of the very fine Everly Brothers album It's Everly Time which was released as a twofer with A Date With The Everly Brothers.  Both absolute classics and worth ?10.99 of your heard earned cash.  Contains the absolute definitive version of Love Hurts as well as other classics like Sleepless Nights, Cathy's Clown, Stick With Me Baby, That's Just Too Much and many, many others.

Enough to make you forget about T*******e D***m :-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 06:21:52 PM
Halfamix, there's the 14th December gig at the Point in Cardiff to consider, but no other Man events I'm aware of before Christmas. The Jets at the Patti on the 24th of this month of course.
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Post by: halfamix on November 16, 2001, 06:26:25 PM
Unavoidable I'm afraid Allan as I'm Treasurer of one of the parties that are holding party on 22nd so I have to be there to pay for the damn thing!
When's there going to be another convention then? The last one I attended was in Fairfield Halls Croydon (can't remember when it was) I can remember that my feet hurt and I got pissed as a parrot. Didn't know anyone then and the only person that spoke to me all day was Deke.  
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Post by: halfamix on November 16, 2001, 06:36:06 PM
Ahhh thanks Jules
Just dug out The Point flyer that I was given at the CIA no mention of MAN but I see Colin Blunstone and Rod (Hold your Head up)Argent are there tonight and Jan Akkerman is there next week. Does anyone know how many The Point holds as it says "Limited capacity-Book early"!
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on November 16, 2001, 07:41:41 PM
Ok Jules,Point taken.Sorry if i have upset you with the TD chatter,but i can assure you i mean no malice to this board
I find this page interesting and most importantly it is used by knowledgeable and tolerant individuals,and the TD crusade was just a bit of light hearted wind up banter,in future i will keep my individual Tangerine Dream feelings to myself,as merited i feel they are.
Keep up the good work at the archive.
      Best regards  Colin
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on November 16, 2001, 08:51:31 PM
On the subject of Bo Hannson,i once owned a mint(promo) vinyl copy of Lord of the rings on the Charisma label,Sadly like a bloody idiot i sold it amongst a group of other LPS to a dodgy dealer.I realised when i got home,but the ongoing arguments proved fruitless,how i stayed a free man i will never know.Bo,s organ on that album is magic.The things we do for a night on the Ale.  :mad:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 10:17:52 PM
Um, look, I had no intention of suggesting that 'Tangerine' and 'Dream' were banned words, merely that there are several thousands of other good words to choose from too.

On the Bo Hansson topic I'd like to confess to a little confusion, and a woefully inadequate memory. About twenty years ago a friend played me an album by someone whose surname was Hansson. I really enjoyed it, but was well beyond the capacity for rational thought when presented with the album sleeve to look at. I vaguely remember the music being fairly heavy guitar and hammond based jazzy-proggy rock, proficiently played and with a possible touch of the Tolkein mystique about it. I don't recall it being called Lord Of The Rings though.

I've no idea whether it was Bo or Junior Hanssen (never having heard any more by either of them). Any guesses?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 16, 2001, 10:19:22 PM
I don't know how Hannssenn was spelt either.
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Post by: Tim W on November 17, 2001, 12:54:27 AM
OK, here's on which comes recommended by Malcolm Morley.

The CD is Cocoon Crash by the band K's Choice. I had never even heard of them, but that doesn't mean much. Anyway, they are a Belgian band based around brother and sister Gert and Sarah Bettens. The album is 14 songs which are both delicate and powerful, and the lyrics of such a high quality it's hard to believe they are not native English speakers. Even their website's good, especially the video clips of 'Believe' and 'Everything for Free'.
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Post by: halfamix on November 17, 2001, 04:23:52 AM
Yes Jules it sounds like you were listening to the Swedish keyboard player Bo Hanson who did several excellant LP's for Charisma Records in the 70's. If it wasn't "Music inspired by The Lord of the Rings" it must have been "The Magicians Hat" or "Attic Thoughts" which are in a very similar vain.
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Post by: Adam on November 17, 2001, 04:45:26 AM
Jules, that sure sounds like Bo Hansson, perhaps Magician's Hat. See the link for a sample. My personal favourite track is The Sun. I have the TLOTR LP, but on the Charisma Label. The LP says 1972 and the CD, 1970? Hendrix jammed with him and recorded his track, "Tax-free."

http://www.cdnow.com/switch/from=sr-301709/target=buyweb_purchase/ddcn=SD-7676+33655+2
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Post by: Adam on November 17, 2001, 04:56:11 AM
Huh, wha? Halfamix, you beat me to it! Now I've been considering dumping Media Player for Real Player, 8 is it for 10 bucks but am wondering what your all experience is considering the post below.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 17, 2001, 11:06:33 AM
Yes indeed not one of my proudest moments. Thanks for the concern. I can't even bring myself back to the board to face what I wrote, but I did glance at it in the morning and without reading it, I knew in a state of panic and denial that I was staring at an ugly part of me.

My apologies for bringing such unwelcome sentiments to your fine domain. I can't justify or explain myself, but believe me when I say I am truly sorry. Exile is next to exist, but very far away. The things I wrote are crap, not worthy of a play.

I only post in a deep state of intoxication on this board. The reason is unclear to myself also. Tonight I am semi-clear and without hatred fear or anger at myself or others, if only the world was as such, we could all live in peace.  If I am a racist hater in your heart then I have fooled you. I sometimes like to push the envelope out the door with the filing cabinent.  What I have learned is not much. I have learned that fear and hatred and anger are all the same. We all need to fool ourselves into believing we are in control and when the doorknob falls off when we are late we are angry that we are humbled.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 17, 2001, 11:39:22 AM
oh and by the way did I say I'm sorry.

totally humbled-MO
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 17, 2001, 12:07:49 PM
Maurice, this board would be a much duller place without you. We all make mistakes occasionally, and hopefully learn a little by doing so. Welcome back, and let's move on.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 02:00:51 PM
Jules - Bo Hansson gets a mention on the on the left
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 02:01:18 PM
Thats link by the way
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Post by: tony on November 17, 2001, 03:53:35 PM
jules, do you know who is stocking the man cd on repertoire . thanks  tony
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Post by: halfamix on November 17, 2001, 04:39:26 PM
Adam I downloaded "Realplayer 8" onto my 40 English pounds special computer! (eg no memory) and I've had no problems.
Being mister vinyl annorack I have all of Bo Hansson's LP's which are all good but "Music inspired by Lord of the Rings" is the best released in the UK by Charisma in 1972 it won gold status here and in Australia, the original came with a nice poster of Tolkein under a tree (not Treebeard!) picture taken by Lord Snowdon.
The CD uses the original 1970 mix which was remixed and extended in 1988 and released with extra tracks from other LP's in 1993.
Whewww
Welcome back Maurice
Smoke more herb :cool: and drink less it works for me! :-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 17, 2001, 05:46:08 PM
Tony, CD Now have the MAN Man album listed, but because in the US it's an import the price is quite high. Interestingly they have it classified as Heavy Metal. I reckon the US have gone soft.

As the disc is sourced in Germany you'll probably find it quicker and cheaper to order from one of the European traders. CyberCD have never let me down yet.

Tel, Adam, Halfamix, I chased down the link to some Bo Hansson clips (thanks Adam), and he doesn't seem to be the artist I recall hearing. A bit on the precious side compared to what I remember, which had much more guitar going on. I shall keep looking.

Regarding Real Player, I've had a few grievances with it in the past. Whenever I install RP, somehow I always end up with a load of background tasks floating around in my machine from then on. It's always a bit worrying when your drive starts chugging away for no apparent reason. Occasionally these appear to send information about my machine's contents, and my websurfing habits back to Real Media. While I accept Real Media's assurance that these are not identifiable back to me, but never the less it's a drain on my system's resources I can live without. Real Media indicate that the informaton they gather helps them to target the downloads and adverts offered to me more effectively. Well thanks very much, like I don't get enough spam clogging up my inbox already.

The other knock on effect of the spyware is that all other applications I run get their performance downgraded. Because I'm on an old machine here (a 133Mhz PII) I grumble about this a lot. Grumble, grumble.

I've just installed version 8.0 so I can have a go at recording the Deke inteview this evening, and although all my applications are now running like one-legged greyhounds, the netcast seems to be ok. Once that's done I shall probably remove Real Player again, and get my system back.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 06:17:21 PM
When anybody complains to me about machines running slow, especially browsing the net, my first reaction is normally get rid of Real Player if you don't need it.

I was a little disappointed with the guide to progrssive rock site - absolutley no mention of Man and they even give a credit to the 2nd Greasy Truckers album and ignore the first - bizarre. Mind you if I had all of the albums mentioned, plus the Man releases I would be fairly happy.

Could be a little on board competition - have a look at the site and see how many you own..... Link on the left?
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 06:22:38 PM
Personally - 43
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 07:34:41 PM
Tel, Man have got a mention. 1973 review of BITF where Nektar's Tab In The Ocean album was described as "a cross between Pink Floyd and Man". BTW, What's happened to your website? is it still accessible?
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 08:19:14 PM
Finished the set yes yes yes we've got an agent pinafore tray she sang she's coming round the mountain when she comes try was mangled audience went wild animated million pound contract Eddie Cochran.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 08:23:39 PM
We were the kings of Llanelli.It was wonderful.My Babe by the Pirates. It was just full of groups. Group vans as far as the eye could see. Fart lighting contest. That sort of feel might still be there bu I doubt it. Seven at teh weekend. 35 quid on the night. Bench Mark. Micky Green on guitar. Oh dear me...
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 08:32:36 PM
got an offer to joint he Blackjacks. The Shadows were an offense to civilisation. Tour of ary bases in France. Near the German border. The thing we found wierdest. All the black on one side. If we did a song like Downtown all the white guys would cheer. Cming together. St. Germain in Paris. When we got here the club had been closecd because of a race riot. Sergean Washington. Loved him If a race riot into the room and stay there until it was over. I like guitar players. Wsn't a race riot. In American army bases, no it's a military base. last song of the last night. What would you like here. All the white guys "Wipe Out". "Can I get a Witness" a joy to play. Half way through the song and changed into can I get a witness. A volatile and dangerous at times. A wonderful time. Loved by both the white and black guys. We were just naive. This is "Can I get a Witness". I'm not playing can I get a Witness.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 08:37:36 PM
By MArvin Gaye. Telephone from Martin Ace. Got absolutely plastered. Alcoholic distance. Is uppose I'm out and Deke's in. Suddenly I was in the Jets. There was no 12 bar sets. You'll gonna lose that girl by the Beatles. We still do gigs. We'd rehearsed and played in the Tivoli. Beau Adams. Where's my snare drum It's been nicked. Called the police. Driving along the Mumbles road. White shirt. Pulled up. Offered a lift. Gave the snare dram. Beau it's great and yu've got his snare drum you swine. We did drop him in the Gower. He might still be there for all I know. Tax Man by the Beatles
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 08:48:11 PM
Endless stories about Life on the Road. London areas. Jack Farland. Can't offer you London work but I can offer you the Top Ten in Hamburg. Started seven at night and finish at 4-5. By the end of the month you were match fit. Barracks above the Top Ten . I went to a bed and there was a dark patch on the wall. Every morning John Lennon spat on the wall. Outside foyer an into the club. As we got into the foyer. Shotgun Plum's back. The Tony Sheridan. I've head you're good. Can I play with you. Sheridan was absolutely plastered. I donnttt wancchaa play guitar. Drum rhytmn. Some other guy. Martin dragged him off and threw him of the stage. Following night sober orange juice. Redeem myself. You must be joking. OK OK. Handed him guitar and he was a terrific singer. Nobody's Child. Brilliant. Redemption of himself. 4 months latere he turned up again. Taking a band to Vietnam. Offered Ace the job, Martin decided to take it, but Sheridan had already offered it to someone else. Ace might never have come back. The Nobody's Child by the sublime Tony Sheridan.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 08:54:29 PM
The ghastly Nobody's Child. The Regal - a dangerous place. Dancing a contact sport. Supporting the Who. LOcke themselves in the dressing room. Supposed to be always fighting. Marin was castigating them. You're supposed to be fighting. We stood in the crowd right in front of Moon. They lurked at the back of the stage. Moone was a terrific drummer. Terrible Camping Nun. At end of Dancing in the Street. Martin and I clapped. And even the audience stopped fighting. Back in the cars. They were terrific. This is Dancing in the Street by the Who.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:00:02 PM
I remember it being far more apocalyptic than that. Booked at the Speakeasy. One night Stills had blown Hendrix off stage. Half an hour on half hour off all through the night. Trying out new songs. Candles in orange bowls. One person in the darkness. Please not rush to stage. Clap at every song. Thank you for applauding and thanks for being a good audience. Hendrix. Bony hands. Long Hands. Fingers like telegraph poles. He was born to mingle. Tall Nordic blonde. Waved back. Bliss. Hendrix with Stone Free
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:07:14 PM
This is BBC radio Wales, Deke Leonard still on the road trip. Corncrackers to the Dream. Frank Zappa. Freak Out album. Guitars on top of amps. Raided local gardens for flowers. Thunder sheet. At one point Martin rang a school bell. Why not fill the bell with meths. In habit of wearing a loin cloth at that  time. Meths on Terry's cymblals on fire. Martin stood at the front of the stage. Semi-moron grabed the bell. Meths starting to tip down Martin's arm. No alternative but to tip meths over the guy. We assume he threw himself in the nearest river. Could we do it every night. Moby Grape...
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:14:33 PM
Most of recrding at Rockfield. Edmunds lived just down the road. Go to bed lstenin to Edmunds dubbing the 89th guitar. When he got up in the morning. Sounds like God walking past. Studio rings. It's his wife. Driving a jag. So Davie Charles and I went to look for Edmunds. Car parked off the road. Got out. Crash?. Church nearby. Heard a voice. Help Help. Edmunds swinging on the railings, feet off the ground. Wanted the toilet and slipped. It was briliant. One of the tracks he was doing at the time was Down, Down,Down ...
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:20:22 PM
I mentioned Davie Charles was drummer of Help Yourself and introduced me to Mike Nesmith. Dave and I plyed all the time. Press interviews always mentioned John Stewart, Help Yourself, Mike Nesmith. Red Rhodes the most psychedelic steel player in the world at the time. Poor bugger's dead,I think. Jeff Hooper briliant sound man. Nesmith on stage, Jeff doing the stage. Watching Nesmith. Brilliant. Jeff behinn the mixing desk. Fast asleep. End of set. Woke him uo. At the ene of set told Jeff it was best sound he'd ever had. Favourite Nesmith song Tumbling Tumbling Weeds. John Wayne film.
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:29:34 PM
It's nearly all over. One more story. John Cipollina joined the Man band. QMS one of the best. Dino Valenti - dreadhful singer. Thrown into jail. ade sublime albums. Out of Jail. John left. Support Hall and Oates. Two identical half hour sets. John not there. Dino big strong Man. Valenti was so boring. Valenti sort of went for me. Literally threw me out. About a year later and John joined the band. He didn't live in his ownhouse.Thompson sub-machine gum Sidle up to the guy. Othere thing was guitars. In theatres and cinemas... he was so loud . Probably the reason why Jones is deaf. Brother Mario continues to play. QMS and Babe I'm Gonna Leave You.....Good Luck...
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:31:34 PM
Discuss!
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Post by: Tel on November 17, 2001, 09:53:12 PM
Had Digital TV 867 in one room, Real Audio in the other room. 2 minute or so time delay, so if I missed a bit on one, I could quickly listen to the other, and if missed both, read St Evil's commentary! Was very much like a reading of "Maybe I Should've Stayed In Bed" interspersed with relevant rock n roll songs of the time, ending with the only Man reference, that of Cippo's tour of UK with Man, so ended with QMS "Babe I'm Gonna Leave Ya". The time delay  meant I got an extra 2 minutes of it - great stuff! The synopsis on Digital TV previewed this as "ex guitarist Deke Leonard......" not happy with that!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 18, 2001, 01:00:50 AM
What a remarkable performance St Evil Bluestow. Go quench those fingers in a bowl of iced water. Marvellous.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 18, 2001, 08:34:54 PM
Thanks StE for the entries, next best thing to listening in. What a great show. Just one question: what is meths?

I found this bargain bin searching Deke Leonard on Google. Had that BBC One for half the price I paid for it. Some interesting stuff.

Tel, I only managed 15, but I was just a poor schoolboy and hadn't figured out how to stuff an LP down my pants!

I think I'll skip Real Player, thanks Jules.
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Post by: Tim W on November 18, 2001, 10:53:56 PM
Meths is short for methylated spirits, a very flammable alcohol based liquid. If you drink this, you can't get much lower. Well, maybe Budweiser...

I believe it's not generally available for sale in the US for safety reasons. (Meths, that is, not Budweiser).
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Post by: Rover on November 19, 2001, 10:22:04 AM
StE. Couldn't be bothered to read all that stuff. Send a tape will you?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 11:08:29 AM
Checked out the prog-rock site - some interesting selections there.  Love Beach?

Anyway, I'm able to lay claim to 67 of them in my collection with this number likely to rise in the future (reissue of first Caravan album, Camel reissue programme etc etc)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 11:32:55 AM
I though meths was sums in a posh part of the country
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 11:47:40 AM
Speaking of which, in this particular posh part of the country I add my approved prog rock collection up to the princely sum of 30.

No Tull, Van der Graaf, TD, or Caravan amongst them, nor anything of continental extraction either (unless you count Nektar in that). No Gong, no Crimson, no Hamill, no Softs no Wyatt, no Cow.

Have I led a sheltered life?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 12:46:51 PM
Rover: Was so busy typing, sipping the wine and eating pizza that I didn't notice the first side of the tape had finished. Noticed with 15 minutes to go, so there's about half an hour missing. Therefore, you're gonna have to read through all that stuff. Jules: A series of 12 on-topic messages must be some kind of record here?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 12:49:13 PM
Gong play Trondheim tomorrow night. I asked before, I'll try again. Is it worth going? Heard a good review from Bergen last night.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 12:49:47 PM
Anything over two wins that prize!!
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Post by: Tel on November 19, 2001, 12:50:12 PM
Jules - I also have no Henry Cow (for which I will ever be grateful).

Rob - I still could'nt find the reference to Man ytou referred to
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Post by: Tel on November 19, 2001, 12:51:45 PM
Who got 30,000?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 01:01:42 PM
Almost undoubtedly a record. I can't check though, I'm too busy trying to figure out how many hands you have. Drinking, eating and typing at the same time is impressive. Perhaps a case of keyboards in the wrong feet?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 01:07:20 PM
It's there Tel, in the review of Remember The Future. I was a bit surprised to read that Nektar always returned to England to record. I'll bet Dieter Dierks would be surprised too.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 01:09:26 PM
Twas I - I did attempt to send a screenshot to Jules in an outrageous attempt to win a prize but it was zapped somewhere between here and there.

Oh well....:rolleyes:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 01:17:45 PM
Thus fuelling my suspicion that it was all an illusion anyway. No t-shirt prizes for mega-hit counts on the Manboard though. We're seeing over a thousand page views weekly, and I simply can't operate the loom that fast.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 01:23:00 PM
Aside from the SOFT WEED FACTOR and the last track on their Paris live album (SOFT SPACE?) Soft Machine are pretty much unlistenable. Same old "emperor's new clothes" syndrome as found with Syd Barrett - everyone goes along with the same old "genius" tag rather than say what they really think - ie. his solo stuff was terrible, blew his mind on acid - am I supposed to respect that?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 19, 2001, 01:23:11 PM
Trivia hunt.

Amongst other things I updated the posters and tickets pages in the Archive Artwork section this weekend. While doing that I noticed an error on one of the posters pictures.

The challenge? Find the error. All the information needed is in the two pages mentioned.

A round of applause to the first person who posts back here with the right answer.
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Post by: Tim W on November 19, 2001, 01:58:07 PM
My spy network informs me that Martin Ace was at a Colin Blunstone - Rod Argent gig this weekend, and got a namecheck from RA and a round of applause.
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Post by: Tim W on November 19, 2001, 02:45:59 PM
...and Rod Argent and Colin Blunstone are on the same Radio Wales programme as Deke next Saturday.
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Post by: Tim W on November 19, 2001, 02:47:26 PM
Deke was also mentioned several times in the programme which followed his broadcast including a plug for his two books.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 04:49:42 PM
Can I just plug a (relatively) new band I saw live on Friday night.  They are called Mostly Autumn and they hail from Yorkshire (but don't let that put you off).  Stylistically, they are like a cross between Pink Floyd and Fairport Conversion - Pink Convention if you like!  Proggy elements balanced with a roots approach (flutes, recorders etc) and the odd jig/reel thrown in.  They've released three increasingly excellent studio albums to date and have just produced a live CD/DVD.  There is also a Lord Of The Rings set coming out in December (can't imagine why!)- not entirely exploitative as they have done Tolkein in the past (cf Out At The Inn, Helm's Deep).

They also have a male/female vocal mix which is very appealing - and the main female singer is very appealing in her own right as well!!!!

They are currently on their first "proper" UK tour and will be touring with Karnataka (from Wales) next year

Heartily recommended.

:-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 05:43:42 PM
Fairport Conversion? :o
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Post by: George Jones on November 19, 2001, 06:06:58 PM
Saw Nils lofgren Last night with my dad and a friend,he played a very enjoyable two hour set. Some of his playing reminded me of Jeff Beck. Seems that Deep Purple are playing the C.I.A in feb 02 I might check that one out as well. I would like to see Blackmore in the band his unpredictable manner makes him all the more exiting to watch I feel. I recentley saw him at the Grand in Swansea with Blackmores Night, which was a great show.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2001, 06:12:55 PM
Looking forward to seeing Nils myself in Glasgow at the end of the month.  A great support player but also a very underrated songwriter in his own account.

George - are you and/or your dad catching Brian Wilson in January?
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Post by: Mike Aboud on November 19, 2001, 06:24:12 PM
Well I got to 34 on the prog rock website, thanks in no small part to my pH/VdGG collection. Nice to see the Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come albums mentioned - he is a very talented musician and it's a shame that he has had to live with the "God of Hellfire" albatross around his neck for so many years.

Back to Man - the other night a little thought popped into my head. How much would it cost to hire the band for an evening. If, say, fifty of us chipped in twenty nicker a piece would they be happy to come and play in my back garden for a grand? Or a suitable hostelry? I love the idea of a "private" Man gig and they for once would have the satisfaction of knowing the crowd was "select" rather than just small. How many of us could make the journey to somewhere in/close to London?
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Post by: halfamix on November 19, 2001, 07:11:57 PM
I'LL come Mike.
I knew I was a vinyl anorak I reached 85 on the prog site as has been said earlier it was helped alot as I have all Hammill/VDGG LP's and all Arthur Brown's stuff but no MAN LP's mentioned!!! and whats ELP's "Love Beach" doing there? its awful and even the band themselves are ashamed by it!!  
Yes Gong are worth seeing I saw them about a year ago and they still do a good show now if only Tim Blake and Steve Hillage would rejoin! that would be worth seeing
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Post by: Pilots of purple twighlight on November 19, 2001, 08:19:48 PM
Well Mike,that seems a (Grand) idea.How about the boys playing an open air shindig up around Raglan castle in the mid to latter part of next august,they have one of the Finest Mushroom crops in the surrounding fields in Wales.
Now that should lead to a super evening.
;-) :eek: :-)
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 20, 2001, 12:20:12 AM
Nils Lofgren in M/cr did a semi Martin Ace. Whereas Martin Ace will not do requests full stop, Nils Lofgren asked if any requests. Some bloke shouts a song title for his 14 year old son (his favourite I think)  Nils says "can't do that one, anyway, at 14, he's old enough to learn that life can be a shit".....on subject of requests, Southside J best for requests. Like a cabaret act, but brilliant all the same.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 20, 2001, 02:05:53 AM
My favourite gig of the year to date was Ryan Adams in Glasgow last month - a three hour plus extravaganza where requests were the order of the day, including from Mr Adams himself who wanted a member of the audience to sing Search And Destroy while he played the drums.  

Only people who can top this are Nils Lofgren, Ian McNabb and the mighty Manband who are the remaining gigs in my diary for the remainder of the year.  Although that forgets the legendary Tommy's Magic Arse who play their annual gig at The Clyde Bar, Helensburgh on 29 December!!

The best gig of 2002 will be Brian Wilson and there will be no competition for this!
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Post by: halfamix on November 20, 2001, 02:09:18 AM
Another one that won't do requests is Peter Hammill I have seen the man countless times and I have yet to see him do a request. Mind you when a request does come from the audience its almost always for a Generator song and with Peter just touring with ex Neutrons string man Stuart Gordon on violin that might be a bit difficult?
:cool:
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on November 20, 2001, 11:42:45 AM
I once saw Glenn Tilbrook out of Squeeze doing a solo acoustic show at the Dublin Castle in Camden.Talk about requests - he must be able to bash out three chord versions of nearly  every popular song from the last forty years.Amazing ,and not a bad little earner when you're only splitting the proceeds one way!

By the way Mike,where do I send my Twenty quid?
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Post by: halfamix on November 20, 2001, 02:26:02 PM
Mike I've been thinking! (try not to do too much of this as it makes my head hurt) The great city of Bristol would be a cool place for MAN to play,being at the crossroads of M4 and M5 easy to get to for most people and I can't remember the last time they played in the city.
:cool:
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Post by: Rover on November 20, 2001, 02:44:28 PM
Jules,
On the poster 'Two Of Man's Great Achievements', Deke looks a bit like Hank Marvin. Is this the mistake you are looking for?
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Post by: Mike Burgess on November 20, 2001, 03:20:14 PM
Yes Halfamix, It would be a good idea methinks. Maybe at the Fleece and firkin? I could certainly bring a crowd down, but enough of me being depressing, I could also take a few people with me to se the manband in Bristol too.
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Post by: halfamix on November 20, 2001, 06:10:48 PM
I'm thinking of popping down to the Fleece and Firkin in Bristol on Dec 3rd as Fish is playing and I haven't seen him since a memorable night several years ago when Fish and myself stayed up all night in the Bierkeller in Bristol after one of his gigs,he supplied a case of "Sol" beer? and I the smokeables it was a memorable night much to the displeasure of Bierkeller owners.
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 20, 2001, 07:07:22 PM
Rover, no that's not it, although the Hank Marvin impression ties up neatly with his Cliff Richard impression on The Welsh Connection cover. Bruce Welch next?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 20, 2001, 09:49:09 PM
Now lets have no needless slaggin of Mr Welch.......any man thats shared a bed with Olivia Neutron Bomb is worthy of respect  ;-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 21, 2001, 02:40:36 AM
Who said the US has gone soft? Damn right we have. It was the Budweiser, yer Honor, or maybe the 57 different ingredients. Man is heavy metal then Barry Manilo is rap. Too much jello in the middle maggot brains voting for globalization. Subisdised cancer for sale. Bitter? Damn right I am.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 21, 2001, 02:59:03 AM
would you like some ... tea ... ?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 21, 2001, 06:00:40 AM
Philly Cops Charged in Anthrax Hoax
By JOANN LOVIGLIO PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Two police officers were charged Tuesday with sending an obscenity-laced anthrax hoax from their patrol car computer to every police car and dispatch center in the city.
District Attorney Lynne Abraham said the text message read in part: ``We don't care ... We can't stand America. We have anthrax in our car ...''
Officers Gina McFadden and Dawn Norman, both 25, turned in themselves Tuesday after warrants were issued for their arrest, Abraham said.
The women could be sentenced to up to 46 years in jail if convicted on all nine charges against each, including felony counts of criminal mischief and criminal conspiracy and misdemeanor counts of terroristic threats and making false reports, Abraham said.
``I believe it was something that got out of hand,'' said Deputy Police Commissioner John Norris, head of Internal Affairs. ``I think after they sent it they realized it was a mistake.''
Norris said the officers denied sending the message, but would not divulge how they explained the incident.
``We don't know whether they were joking or serious but obviously they were fooling around, while on duty, in a police car and in full uniform,'' Abraham said.
Fraternal Order of Police president Richard Costello referred calls to Norman's attorney, Jeff Kolansky, who said his client told investigators that McFadden typed the message as a joke. He said Norman ``thought the message had been deleted but apparently it was sent.''
McFadden's attorney Calvin Taylor was out of the office and could not be reached Tuesday.
McFadden, an officer since January 2000, and Norman, an officer since October 1997, had no prior disciplinary problems, Norris said. They will be suspended for 30 days with intent to dismiss, he said.
On the Net:
Philadelphia Police: http://www.ppdonline.org
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Post by: George Jones on November 21, 2001, 11:40:20 AM
When and Where is Brian Wilson playing and is he performing with the orchestra (doing pet sounds) ??????. He did have a U.K Arena tour last year but cancelled the lot.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 21, 2001, 11:47:23 AM
28/29/30 January Royal Festival Hall, London & 25 January Clyde Auditorium, Glasgow.

No orchestra but the usual 10-piece band he's been playing with for the last few years

Apparently he was singing "Surf's Up" in the USA this year :cool:
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 21, 2001, 11:49:01 AM
I have a couple of the orchestra shows on CDR - contact me off-line if interested
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Post by: George Jones on November 21, 2001, 12:22:04 PM
That would be cool. I just went on the Brian Wilson website and the tickets for the gig were ranging from ?25-?50. Ah well thats the price you pay for Genius!!!!!. Other gigs this year. Vai at the astoria and I will go to this time. By the way did anyone catch Uli Jon Roth at the welsh festival this year I heard he was a blast!!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 21, 2001, 03:56:54 PM
George, Is Steve Vai doing any other shows in the UK do you know?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 21, 2001, 04:34:37 PM
Steve Vai gigs;-

12/04 • Manchester, England [Apollo]
12/05 • Wolverhampton, England [Civic]
12/06 • London, England [Astoria]
12/07 • London, England [Astoria]

American date formats - not a gig once a month!!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 21, 2001, 05:43:47 PM
Ah yes. A quick check on vai.com confirms. So Tony McAlpine is covering Mike Kennealy's usual role. That's quite a hard act to follow. The interaction between Kenneally and Vai onstage was great fun on the G3 tour a few years back.

Midway through the third song of Vai's set the power on his amps cut out. Kinneally stepped up to the mic, closed the song with two well chosen chords and said "Thank you very much, goodnight".

My how we laughed.

:D
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 21, 2001, 09:50:09 PM
Tea? Yessss! Gong were great fun last night here in Trondheim and a tremendous atmosphere - fantastic to see Gilli Smyth and Daevid Allen getting that kind of reaction from a crowd who could have been, and possibly were, their grandchildren. Glad I made the effort....still unable to get a stupid grin off my face...
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Post by: halfamix on November 22, 2001, 02:44:14 AM
Ahh yes the good witch Shakti Yoni still going strong in Gong. I can remember must be 25yrs ago now! Being almost overcome with lust at the sight of Gilli Smyth singing "Witches Song:I'm your pussy" from "The Flying Teapot" LP,
:cool:
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 22, 2001, 11:05:37 AM
and so I'm listening to Brinsley Schwarz.  Pop in any of their CD's and you will find fine music.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 11:11:10 AM
Morning, folks
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 11:11:39 AM
:-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 11:16:45 AM
Morning Allan.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 11:31:11 AM
darling I know you must believe me. before I go out of my mind. you can stay on your starship baby dont be unkind to me, we belong to one another but your only half way there.. I can promise you anyting, but you just wouldn't care .baby I love you. I swear that I do. that's why i'm hesitating re. to get
back home. darling I know you must believe me before I go out of mind,  you can stay on your starship
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 11:37:11 AM
I lost track of and so I am still apologizing but I stil remember the girl who brings love.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 11:39:39 AM
Maurice, surrender to the rhythm that is calling you home
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 22, 2001, 12:59:07 PM
Any news about ticket availability for the Patti bash on 22/12?
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Post by: michael heatley on November 22, 2001, 05:00:38 PM
Okay. Bands doing Man covers (tribbute CD not included).
I had a call form a nice bloke called Phil Tunnicliffe who recalls a Stoke band called Chaser playing Deke's Razorblade & rattlesnake from 73-76 (when, coiincidentaly with Man) they split. Chaser emerged from Boulevard whose songwriter was Des Parton, a bloke who, as David Parton, had a hit with that Godawful Stevie Wonder song Isn't She Lovely. So, Pete Frame ? Deke to Stevie in four moves.
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Post by: ron sanchez on November 22, 2001, 07:33:26 PM
while you talk of pot head pixies, it's Thanksgiving here. I'm getting ready to put the turkey in the oven. We'll have a house full of family and friends in a few hours. For those of you who don't know about T'giving. When Man were here, and we went to the Jones' for the very same meal, they said: "oh, it's just like Christmas Dinner". Actually I'm sure it's just a new name for an old pagan festival. 'er, have some more....
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 22, 2001, 08:25:47 PM
Any Welsh (or non Welsh) Man people lining the Welsh forests over the weekend watching RAC Rally? Just wondering,like.  If none, I'll have Spunk Rock blaring through Resolven forest on behalf of us all. ( And I've recommended on Rally messageboard to spend Saturday night at the Patti. Many were going to the Wetherspoons pub ib Cardiff to meet up which is where we've met prior to Coal Exchange. Apparently earlier this week it was damaged by fire, not sure how bad.
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Post by: Tim Whitcombe on November 22, 2001, 08:41:57 PM
Looks like Maurice got up early for Thanksgiving. Or stayed up late the night before. Whatever.

Anyway, talking of the Brinsleys, he might be interested to know that Ian Gomm (who produced Morley's unreleased solo album) has released a solo album of his own, Rock'n'Roll Heart, recorded in Nashville and Wales. Relaxed country music, if you like that sort of thing it's a very good example of its style.

Hey Ron, I hope you're watching the Lions getting stuffed... 'cos I'm listening!
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Post by: Green Eggs and Ham on November 22, 2001, 09:05:12 PM
I just wanted to say that probably ten years after everyone else I ordered a copy of Man's 1999 Legal Bootleg album - thank you Mr Ace - and found it to be excellent - when I first heard Mr Ace's and Mr Jones' introduction to "Spunk Rock" it was a bit squirm inducing - Mr Jones* sounded so proud I felt like I was eavesdropping at a private family get together but it's a good track nonetheless. One band which fills me with the same sense of excitement as I felt when I first got into Man back in the mid 1980s (a friend at school taped BITF for me, stuck some DP on to fill up the tape and I've always associated the last track of side two running into Hallalulah!) is Spock's Beard.. one of the few bands, Man and Hendrix aside, I would pay full wack for a CD by - everyone else I'm happy to wait until they're reduced!! * Yes, I did watch Resevior Dogs on Sunday!
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Post by: ron sanchez on November 22, 2001, 11:50:52 PM
Tim-

The Pack just managed to pull their nuts out of the fire. Good one.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 01:12:54 AM
Happy Thanksgiving.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 09:29:04 AM
Newest progressive rock albums in my collection. "The Paris Collection" and "Gods of Light" both by Camel. The Former is a recording of their most recent tour which I did miss, even though they did come to San Diego...Arse! The former is of much older lineage and features material with Peter Bardens...it is quite wonderful.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 09:55:17 AM
43 on the prog website have slipped through the cash register into my hands.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 10:17:55 AM
my figers type ARSE. My figers lie over the ocean...oh bring back my figers to me....Arse that's a hairy potter.
Title: Ancestral Manboard
Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 10:25:02 AM
"The Paris Collection" is also quite wonderful. Andrew Latimer personnally autographs each CD you order from his website. Whata guy. http://www.camelproductions.com/
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Post by: Rover on November 23, 2001, 10:26:39 AM
BBC Two morning  
afternoon  
 
 
 
UK peeps,
BBC2 Sat   19:25   Omnibus: Syd Barrett
Crazy Diamond: Founder member of Pink Floyd, Syd Barrett, was the creative genius behind the band's pioneering music. But his growing dependency on drugs would throw him into fast decline. W/S.
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Post by: Germaine Pantry God on November 23, 2001, 10:48:48 AM
Late night version
Tel me your searching for a new place.
They tel me tomorrow will have a true face.
They say that I don't understand.
You speak of your summer time land.
Slow yourself down coming along.

They tel me your past often hurts you.
And even your friends they would desert you.
But now you are beginning to see, the same things have happened to me.
Slow yourself down, I'm coming along.

Tel me your dreams have been broken
and not enough words have been spoken.
The time has come to see it through, ...slow yourself down I'm coming along.
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Post by: Germaine Pantry God on November 23, 2001, 11:08:35 AM
Now listening to CAMEL. The first one.

Have you seen the mystic queen?
Riding in her limousine.
Over hills and over dales 'til morning.

If you like I'll take you there.
We'll find some covers we can wear.
Covers  that you'll only find while sleeping.

Have you seen the mystic queen?
Riding in her limousine.
Over hills and over dales 'til morning.

If you like I'll take you there.
We'll find some covers we can wear.
Covers  that you'll only see while sleeping
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 11:20:42 AM
Thank God that even as I grow old I still have things that I love.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 11:29:14 AM
MAN is born with a will to survive, they'll not take no for an answer.
they wil get by, Somehow they'll try, They won't take no. Never let go.

Never let go. Never let go. Never let go. Never let goooooooooooooooooo.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 11:44:27 AM
Anyone have a high school yearbook from Aragon high school dated 1976?...I didn't think so...thank god.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 11:51:03 AM
I remember that the "quote" by my picture in the highschool yearbook was "you never blow yr trip forever"-GONG from the "You" album circa 1974. What a confused lad I am. Wish I still had "Zoot Alures" I feel like listening to "Black Napkins"
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Post by: Germaine Pantry God on November 23, 2001, 12:10:19 PM
and so me mum eats bananas and shits her pants near every day. and once upon a time there lived a man brought into the world by the strongest of sperm, a man of big prediliction and of little concern. a man of mans manna to the banana. hop skip and a jumpity to  humpity hump. god of light revisited. smirnoff jerkoff beerishnakov tunitoff justahairoff whataturnoff getitoff smirkoff slurpoff itwasonandnowitsoff gods of light revisted.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 23, 2001, 12:26:48 PM
Arubaluba...play it loud...from the new Camel...Gods of Light.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 23, 2001, 01:27:07 PM
Elbow. I've heard good things about their music ( Pink Floyd meet Genesis). anybody actually heard any music?

Is prog rock back!!!
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Post by: Adam on November 23, 2001, 06:27:37 PM
Having snagged a copy of the Open Air Berg Herzberg 1988 in quest of all things MAN, the other tracks have been growing on me, Gong's Would You Like Some   Tea? in particular. What other Gong should I start with? Hawkwind is also better than I expected... Prog Rock, I think ... I ... ... like it.
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Post by: The Alchemist on November 23, 2001, 11:19:19 PM
There is nothing worse than WELCOMING back a RACIST,I will never post here again,Racist comments are UNACCEPTABLE'You have SURPRISED me,totally UNACCEPTABLE.
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Post by: Magne R?skaft on November 24, 2001, 12:23:41 AM
Hi! I am from Trondheim, Norway and was lucky enough to experience the Gong concert in Trondheim last Tuesday. After the concert I talked with the man next to me, and since he is a MAN fan he recommended me to visit this bulletin board. And now I am. I have never listened to anything made by MAN. But after his recommendation I sure would. Well, when I am here I will use this opportunity to advertise for my own home-page, Progressive Rock from Norway, (http://home.c2i.net/raj.montana). I will appreciate your visit.
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Post by: Rover on November 24, 2001, 11:39:24 AM
Hej Magne,
Interesting web site and link to "Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock" where we find that Man are not progressive rock. I always supected this myself. Welcome to this board and my sympathies to you in meeting St Evil Bin Barstow.
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Post by: Adam on November 24, 2001, 08:35:05 PM
I'm sorry I don't feel that way. I don't think Maurice is a racist. He himself has disavowed those words. Given the nature of his contributions to this board I for one am willing to forgive and forget about it. When he's on he's on and worth all due consideration. Thanks.
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Post by: tony on November 24, 2001, 09:46:44 PM
i dont agree with what maurice said ,and i think he is very portentious in a arty farty way and ive certainly not welcomed him back,but im gonna keep posting here because i enjoy it, and also its the man band  board which julian has put a lot of hard work into, and if any more shite rears its ugly head then at least i will be able to make our felings known .so dont be chased away from it alchemist ,you post here because you enjoy the band so stay and if need be confront it , if it dares repeat itself.  
this weekend ive been listening to
open minds roadrunners vol 1
open air burg herzberg vol 1&2
the green ray
nektar prodigal son
have a great weekend
cheers  tony (my real name)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 25, 2001, 01:43:11 AM
I hope that there would not be anyone who posts here regularly (indeed at all) who would support Maurice's outburst of a few days back. I've corresponded with him privately on this issue and I'm satisfied that the sentiments expressed on that unhappy occasion were not truly representative of his views.

Those of us who have enjoyed Maurice's unique outlook on life, also appreciate that he sometimes walks the thin line. Alcohol does not always bring enlightenment, it can also bring despair, isolation and a loss of control.

This is a community noticeboard, shared by many people who have in common an appreciation of Man's music. It is a unifying force to cherish, but there will always be differences between us all.

I don't feel issues like these can be solved by banishment. Excommunication of Manfans is not a prospect I would relish. I don't think I have any right to judge (my own character would most likely not stand up to close scrutiny), so I don't. I do however utterly condemn any form of racist behaviour and I trust that there will be no repetition. If there are further problems I will institute a form of login account that will allow the barring of individuals. I don't believe this should be necessary.

I've come to regard this community as an extended family, and sometimes families have problems that need to be worked out.

Alchemist, I recognise and respect your strong feelings on this matter. I hope you'll stay with us, and continue to contribute (although I note that there are no other postings from that particular alias in the messageboard database).

Maurice has been strong enough to apologise publicly for his behaviour, and has published his e-mail address. I'd politely suggest that one way forward might be for you to contact him directly and seek to understand the background a little better before pulling the plug.
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Post by: tony on November 25, 2001, 11:03:10 AM
a bit of news for nektar fans ,the original nektar and larry fast are to play the near festival 2002 in trenton nj  usa on the 29/30 june 2002 including the the amazing light show, there are plans to film it for dvd/cd .
the entire backcatalogue is going to be revamped along with a master of RTF to proper stero and a transfer of man in the moon to cd, hopfully before june
roye albrighton will be playing with his rock combo on 13th december in a hot sweaty dive in  a stafford club called the surgery , the club holds about 150-200 but according to roye it feels like 50000!!
i for one can't wait  i wonder if i can get the wife to let me go to the usa for a weekend in june 2002  .
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 25, 2001, 12:53:34 PM
Re: Adam & Gong. Camembert Electrique and the "Flying Teapot Trilogy" - Flying Teaport, Angel's Egg & You - do it for me. If I had to pick one it would be "You" - "Isle of Everywhere" is just awesome. They both have that rock solid rhythm section, allowing solos to bob and weave at will - in the same way that a live "Ride & the View" does. The later post "Shamal" stuff doesn't really have the same impact IMHO.
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 25, 2001, 12:56:22 PM
A key part of Gong's sound is Didier Malherbe's sax playing. I really do like listening to saxophone, but I'm sat here trying to imagine Man with a sax player, and I'm not sure that I can. Can you see it working? Discuss.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 25, 2001, 12:58:56 PM
That's great news Tony. There are still a couple of Nektar albums I don't have on CD (the 'Live In New York' ones especially), and the RTF remix is one I've been waiting for for what seems like a long long time. If that one does eventually get sorted (it's been promised for years, but never has materialised) I will gleefully stomp on the crap-mixed issue that Bellaphon put out in '87.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 25, 2001, 01:12:44 PM
As I remember, there were moves to get some brass added to Rock And Roll You Out.

Around the same time there was a review in NME (written by Pete Erskine) of the October 2nd 1974 gig in Glasgow in which he suggests of C'mon "It would still be nice to witness a few horns on this toon, though, like Mel Collins f'rinstance." C'mon at that time was something of a fuzz/wah fest I think.

Personally, I prefer Martin's unrelated comment, "We're not a fucking karaoke band".
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 25, 2001, 02:08:20 PM
Jules. Can I make two requests.  Firstly if there's an issue of controversy relating to a post can you identify the post number so that occasional visitors like myself aren't left scratching their heads.  I know the answer is to visit more often, but there are a lot of Hull City sites to visit first.

Having finally found Maurice's post in question, after about 30 minutes of searching, I personally think it should be removed.  It's outrageously offensive and apologies, background etc, do not make up for this. If it's an unmoderated board in the sense that you don't have the ability to delete things then I think for your own sake you ought to make it a moderated board somehow.

Otherwise you could face potential legal dangers. That post itself I'm sure would constitute incitement to racial hatred. And if you can't delete posts then libel is another danger.

I'm not a lawyer but I'm sure someone like Rob Davies could tell you more.

If you DO have the power to delete posts, then I think you should delete that one, and any similar ones.
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Post by: Tim W on November 25, 2001, 05:04:18 PM
Just to remind everyone, Roye Albrighton's site is on the left.

--

I've been through enough incitement versus censorship arguments not to want to get into another here; I suggest we leave it to Jules and his hosting provider. That's what the T&C are for. And if anyone doesn't like how things are conducted here, they are free to set up their own board.
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Post by: Tim W on November 25, 2001, 05:38:07 PM
A sax is unimaginable indeed. It's hard to picture any wind instruments with MAN, except maybe a little Tullish flute here and there. Golden Earring did some good stuff with hard rock and a flute as I remember on Moontan. I don't really think of MAN as prog rock either but then how do you explain Many Are Called But Few Get Up or Love Your Life?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 25, 2001, 06:51:18 PM
Moderating the board isn't something I'm going to get into. This would require each and every post to be read and ok'd before it would be published. To my mind that would remove the whole purpose of the forum; instant communication would become occasional communication as contrary to popular opinion I don't sit and watch this board constantly (yes, I have a life to live too ya know).

I can't see any real value in providing backward pointers either. Soon we'll be communicating by post numbers only ("Hey Beavis, that post 1032 was a great one wasn't it?" "Sure, and what about 807? Fnah, fnah").

Ultimately it just all sounds like too much hard work and I'm far too busy toting barges and lifting bales.

So generally speaking this board carries on as it would do normally. Perhaps we're all a little wiser now. I don't like to operate any kind of censorship policy because I reckon we're all mature (that's a polite word for 'old') enough to know what is and isn't acceptable behaviour. On this occasion though I feel it's right to remove the offending and offensive posts. I have now done so (the numbers were in the 118x range if anyone chooses to go back and look), replacing them with a simple 'this post has been removed' message. I have no wish to get into any kind of grief with my host provider, life is too short. David, thanks for the advice (which I've acted upon), and Adam, thanks for the e-mailed alternative (which I've also acted upon).

(Rob, there's no need for professional advice so don't trouble yourself making up the invoice :D )
 
Maurice, if you have any problem with this, my address is on the left. Alchemist, if you're still here and have any outstanding issues please mail me.

Can we move on now please? Anyone can engage in any debate on any subject that might be of interest to Manfans. Everyone is welcome, although I may have to draw the line at Queen fans. We should make every effort to maintain standards after all.

;-)
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Post by: Colin J on November 25, 2001, 08:57:24 PM
Hello all
There was a slight improvement in our national side today,but they can and must improve
This weekends playlist
Thomas Jefferson Kaye- first grade
Steely dan-Aja
Tangerine Dream-Sonambulistic imagery
Robert Schroeder-floating music
Vangelis-spiral
Captain Beefheart- ice cream for crow
       Regards    CJ
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Post by: david young on November 25, 2001, 09:11:27 PM
Jules post 14443 mentioned Tangerine Dream. Don't they come in the same category as Queen ...;-)

Also post 14439 mentioned Hull City. :mad:

I enjoyed your reply.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 26, 2001, 12:09:43 AM
Adam, get hold of the Jonkoping video, Spunk Rock with Nik Turner playing sax.
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Post by: Rover on November 26, 2001, 10:16:50 AM
Jim Horn played with Man once too. I remember him raving about Terry Williams in a review somewhere sometime.
Jules, Queen fans out seems reasonable. But what about the Queen Mother?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 26, 2001, 12:09:50 PM
Interesting news from SpinCD;-

We've had huge interest the recent Free re-releases, so the news that the next 4 Free titles are slated for the end of January should be welcome. There'll be more details when we have them, but again expect extra tracks. The same goes for Camel (5 mid-price reissues, due mid to end of January), Caravan ( 2 more titles) and a huge Magma re-release operation is set to swing into force. The French Avante-Gardists are due to unleash 25 CDs in the very near future. Finally, following on from from other recent live titles, 2 more Japanese-only Todd Rundgren titles are on their way. A price on all the above soon.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 26, 2001, 12:20:15 PM
Ok folks, your suggestions of suitable Christmas gifts for the Manband.

My starter for ten: To Deke, an after dinner keep fit kit, comprising Cliff Richard's (ahem) delightful 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow' single, and a large hammer.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 26, 2001, 12:32:05 PM
Happy Christmas to Bob; With a new baby in the house, 1 pair of ear plugs.

For Liza and Eva (with a drummer in the house) 2 pairs of ear plugs each.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 26, 2001, 01:56:29 PM
Rover, the Queen Mum should be safe enough on here, no-one's mentioned Fish for a while.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on November 26, 2001, 03:38:48 PM
I tried contacting Voiceprint recently, to see if they had plans to release the Neutrons albums - I haven't heard anything so far but I'm not holding my breath. Does anyone know of any plans to re-release them? The two albums run to 72 minutes and so would fit very nicely on a single CD. Maybe Point would be interested - if they are taking on "Man family tree" release like Flying Aces and Before your very eyes, maybe it could be a flier?
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Post by: George Jones on November 26, 2001, 04:22:51 PM
This week I have been mostly listening to Alkatrazz - Live Sentence, Beach Boys-Sunflower/Surfs Up, Rainbow- Final Vynil,Z- Shampoohorn(Dweezel Zappas band) and The Strokes- is this it. check Shampoohorn out Dweezel and his brother Ahmet used to have a good band together.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 26, 2001, 04:23:03 PM
Also re the Alkies album
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 26, 2001, 04:53:37 PM
Did anyone go see the Jets and the Eyes Of Blue at the weekend?

Hello?

Anyone?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 26, 2001, 06:15:57 PM
Do we take that as a no, then?  :-(
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Post by: halfamix on November 26, 2001, 09:51:34 PM
You will be lucky if you get a reply from Voiceprint, Mike as they don't seem to reply to letters or e-mails:mad:
If anyone is interested Inner City Unit are having their Xmas party at Dingwalls,Camden Lock,Camden Town,London on December 17th at 7.30pm,tickets are ?9.:cool:
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Post by: wren on November 26, 2001, 11:32:16 PM
Jules, couldn't make the Jets on Saturday and I think the Eyes of Blue pulled out at short notice.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 26, 2001, 11:45:57 PM
Just to let you know that there's a  programme - called 'Great TV' - going out at 8:30 tomorrow evening on BBC 2 Digital in Wales (a special opt out
called '2W') in case you can find a way of seeing/taping it.

This is a documentary type review of Welsh rock music and features some footage of the Manband. I'm told that there are excerpts from the 1973 'New Horizons' schools programme (filmed during the recording of BITF), and from the 1975 OGWT.

If anyone's able to see it I'd be very interested to know how the programme turns out.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 12:27:43 AM
This weekend I have mainly listened to
Zero 7, New purchase, very laid back,
Groundhogs, Best of, wont come off the CD player,
Bonzos, Best of, last listen, has to go back to library,
Page & plant, that live one with moroccan influences,(why oh why????),

And, has anybody headr any Elbow?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 12:33:03 AM
It's getting to that time of year, so shouldn't we be posting our top five new releases of the year and top ten purchases?

Just to put in, top five guitarists still alive:

Micky jones
Bob Fripp
Alvin Lee,
Peter Green
john Squire
jimmy Page

O K so I can't count, it is late.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 02:22:58 AM
Just where does on find copies of MAN videos, anyway? :-)

I've been trying to compose a little Deke sampler that might go something  like this:

Many Are Called.../Maximum Darkness
Louisana Hoedown
I Just Can't Win
Bad Luck
The Ghost Of Musket Flat
Ten Thousand Takes
Broken Ovation
Get Off The Line
Broken Glass And Limejuice
Love Changes
When Am I Coming Back
What Am I Gonna Do When The Money Runs Out
Many Are Called.../Legal Bootleg '99

And wonder if a different last track would be better. What MAN song highlights Deke's quintessance? Ride and The View? Which version? So many ...    
:rolleyes:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 02:37:06 AM
I don't have anything by the Jets. Has anything been put out on CD?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 03:12:08 AM
Born With A Future~All's Well That Ends Well ... ???
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 12:23:32 PM
Maurice, Your latest tirade has been deleted from this board. You have abused your welcome. Please do not come back.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 27, 2001, 05:24:31 PM
Jules - it can't have been an easy decision to 'expel' Maurice but I reckon you've got it right. When confronted with another raft of offensive rants on the Board this morning, I would imagine even the most patient of 'regulars' would have whole-heartedly supported your actions. Now, if only every posting could be in the style of Halfamix - always interesting, inevitably humourous and often enlightening!
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Post by: tony on November 27, 2001, 06:10:42 PM
jules you did the right thing, i saw the messages this morning and thought i would leave it for a while before commenting, but im not going to lower myself you have spoken for all of us.
tony.
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Post by: halfamix on November 27, 2001, 06:16:30 PM
Thank you Kevin (the wad of used notes is on its way to you!):D
I didn't see the offensive posts but I to support your actions Jules.Alcohol does strange things to some people (I should know) but offensive comments are unacceptable.
Who else is going to be at The Point on 14th? I am trying to make it across as I can't make Swansea on the 22nd
:cool:
PS. Tony is the new Nektar CD worth buying?
:cool:
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Post by: tony on November 27, 2001, 06:59:31 PM
could any one please give me the full track listing from the buzzy linhart album buzzy and is it avaiable on cd
thanks tony
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Post by: Tel on November 27, 2001, 07:16:23 PM
Tony - Try the link on the left - Tel
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Post by: Colin J on November 27, 2001, 08:30:27 PM
Half mix, i will be there on the 14th,do you want any CDR,s done?Theres also the Yes gig in ST Davids hall on Fri 7th dec,
and of course Swansea on 22nd.Should be a very entertaining month.Half if theres anything on CDR you are after,if i have got it i will do it.(TD copies) OOPS
       Regards   CJ.
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Post by: Ian Johnson on November 27, 2001, 08:50:54 PM
Guitarists still alive and Albert Lee not mentioned?....shurely shome mishtake...
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Post by: tony on November 28, 2001, 12:05:44 AM
thanks very much tel,
halfamix  the new nektar cd needs to be played afew more times yet its good but i think its needs a few more listens yet
  cheers tony
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 28, 2001, 04:51:39 AM
I've just finished coding some ip address barring routines which have now been added to the Manboard in case they are required. Although I've tried to do all the obvious testing, there may be a few glitches here and there. So far the routines haven't been checked on Netscape browsers or on macs.

If anyone would be willing to help me finish the testing, by volunteering to have their address temporarily barred, please just add a post here to that effect (please include your e-mail address so we can keep in contact).

I'm off to bed now though, it can wait until the morning.

:-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 28, 2001, 05:55:51 AM
I'll take the test. Let me know when I'm turned back on.

R
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 28, 2001, 12:09:17 PM
Alvin Lee, Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 28, 2001, 12:14:30 PM
Ron, thanks, but I could do with someone in the UK being victimised first.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 28, 2001, 12:45:33 PM
Oh, all right - I'll volunteer.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 28, 2001, 01:11:27 PM
Jules, was there any feedback on the BBC 2 Digital in Wales program? Did anyone see/tape it?
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 28, 2001, 01:15:26 PM
TEST - if you can see this, then I'm not barred after all  :D
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 28, 2001, 01:16:04 PM
TEST 2 - last one was submitted via Preview. This one isn't
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 28, 2001, 01:40:32 PM
It's always embarrassing when the shortfalls of your rusty coding skills can be viewed in public. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

:-(
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 28, 2001, 01:45:13 PM
Mick, no-one's mentioned anything to me about the Beeb digital show last night. I don't know if there's anyone in the world who actually subscribes to the service even.

I've never seen the schools programme footage that they were running excerpts from, but it's good to know that the film's still in the vaults.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 28, 2001, 02:04:00 PM
Hell's teeth, I could have caught that.  Sky Digital has all the regional variations of BBC2 available to all subscribers.   :-(
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Post by: Ken on November 28, 2001, 02:56:43 PM
I taped the show last night and had a very quick scan through it this morning whilst eating my cornflakes.

If you blinked you missed the Man segment. Two minutes max including the introductory bit.

Two clips were shown, the first was the end section of C'mon in the BGTYALOAD lineup with what I assume was the Gwalia Male Voice Chair standing in the background and then an instant switch to the Whistle Test version of Day and Night with the Slow Motion Line Up.

The rest of the show featured heavily on Mary Hopkin and Bonnie Tyler with, what I took to be John McKenzie on bass in Bonnie's band.

Also a full run through of Day After Day with Badfinger.

A short piece of Dave Edmunds with a certain Mr Williams on drums and ending with Super Furry Animals, Stereophonics and Manic Street Preachers.

Owen Money got a mention for having been sacked by the Bystanders during the transition to Man (though the presenter thought that the lad hadn't done too badly since).

All in all a bit of a let down as it was over all too soon.

I seem to have left the tape recorder running 'just to make sure I got it right' and ended up with John Sparkes as 'Frank Hovis' fronting a very dodgy Pub Quiz, but quite funny all the same.  I think the public should be warned.
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Post by: Ian Johnson on November 28, 2001, 08:16:48 PM
This week I ave been mostly listening to:-
Dr Feelgood 25 years of...
Frank Zappa Zoot Allures
Little Feat Dixie Chicken & As time goes by
Al Dimeola (forgot which tape)
Some Beefheart
and a rather wonderful car tape with some early Helps and Manillo, Empty Room, Brother Arnold & a few others

I'm having a rather good week
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Post by: tony on November 28, 2001, 09:14:30 PM
wow,is it me or has this board changed size, some advice please, after all the talk earlier onabout stevie ray vaughan i went out and bought a cd called blues at sunrise which is bril, i wouls like to get some more,what are the best cds to have  cheers  tony
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 28, 2001, 09:17:41 PM
To The Seeker, not Alvin Lee's latest stuff, but listen to his playing on Schhhh(early 70's I think). Good morning little schoolgirl is worth the price of the Cd alone.
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Post by: Alan Davies on November 29, 2001, 12:20:13 AM
I bought 10 Years After Live in 1990 a few weeks ago (recorded in Nottingham of all places) and would recommend it. Also playing this week Maximum Darkness, Little Village - Little Village(Nick Lowe as a tenuous Man link) and Derek and the Dominos - Layla. Key to The Highway..... Nice.
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Post by: halfamix on November 29, 2001, 12:53:27 AM
oooh everything has got BIGGER.
Colin J we'll have to meet up again for a beer or two before gig?This week I have mainly been listening to:
String Driven Thing-"The Machine That Cried"
King Crimson-"In the Wake of Poseidon"
Steve Jolliffe-"Zanzi"
Peter Hammill-"Unsung"(Just released "Sonix" CD)
Nice
:cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 01:01:03 AM
Tony, IMHO essential SRV would be "Texas Flood", "Couldn't Stand The Weather", "In Step" and "The Sky Is Crying". All the others are essential too, but these are essentially essential.

There are loads of live recordings, both sanctioned and unofficial.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 01:04:24 AM
Guys, whaddya mean the board has got bigger? It all looks the same to me, but I have been adjusting the software over these last two nights and I may have reset one of the parameters.

If the size has changed are you :-) or are you :-( ?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 02:03:36 AM
it looks the same to me but I'm still :-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 02:17:52 AM
attention supporters of poxy murdoch corporation: you are in league with the dark one who must one day answer for his deeds. think thee well what yea do.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 02:28:43 AM
and no, i'm not m.c.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 29, 2001, 11:02:00 AM
All looks the same to me  :-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 29, 2001, 12:03:13 PM
Just checking that I can get back in again!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 29, 2001, 01:14:29 PM
Looks the same to me too. And yes, Shhhh is a brilliant album. Remember a brilliant gig at the RAH 69/70 where TYA were supported by Blodwyn Pig and Stone the Crows. Good Morning Little Schoolgirl has the distinction (along with EC playing Crossroads on Wheels of Fire) that my old man (a classical music lover) actually asked me to play him on his state of the art record player - a rare honour.
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 29, 2001, 01:37:43 PM
I must say that I always found SSSSHH to be a patchy album.  I thought Cricklewood Green and Watt were both better albums, particularly the former
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 29, 2001, 01:38:36 PM
.....whatever combination of S and H's it is!!!
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 29, 2001, 01:42:53 PM
Post no. 1475 was a wide one, and was causing things to look slightly different, but its on page 2 now so page 1 looks ok.
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 29, 2001, 01:44:09 PM
Re: SRV - "Texas Flood" is essentially, essentially essential.
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Post by: Ian Johnson on November 29, 2001, 02:50:42 PM
Re. SRV - I thought Couldn't stand the weather was pretty especially essentially essential in an essentially essential sort of way.

I forgot to mention I've also being tracking back through my Tom Waits...esp Blue Valentine and Raindogs. Does anyone know if the recent one is any good?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on November 29, 2001, 03:03:45 PM
Try as hard as I might I can't think of a poor SRV track.  Even "Mary Had A Little Lamb" has its good points.
My only advice is to avoid compilations, as you will want to buy the originals in due course - and they are often available in discout sales.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 03:10:41 PM
It was SRV's take on 'Mary had A Little Lamb' that first got my attention. My boss played me 'Texas Flood' during a long car journey one day, but it didn't really register on first hearing. The MHALL approach (Buddy Guy meets Albert King) bubbled around in my sub-conscious mind for few weeks until I succumbed. Everything else dropped into place pretty quick. Rude Mood, Testify, the sublime Lenny.

Boy do I miss him.
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Post by: Mark Davies on November 29, 2001, 03:46:57 PM
Thinking about it some more, the "Live at El Mocambo" video (must be out on dvd too, I guess) is also essential to the power of 2. That the remains the best music video I have ever seen, Bananas included. Known as "Live at Morecambe" at our house, for no real reason.
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Post by: halfamix on November 29, 2001, 03:47:44 PM
Ahhh thats better board back to right size again!
Good to hear the name of Tom Waits mentioned,I have copies of "Blue Valentine" "Small Change" and "Swordfishtrumbone" which are all excellant, but I'm not sure what his recent work is like?
:cool:
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Post by: halfamix on November 29, 2001, 03:55:14 PM
A mate (yes I do have some) played me a SRV dvd on a eight by six foot projector the other night, he was playing in a small club in the states and started off by doing a Hendrix number which was incredible,don't know much by Stevie but I must check some more out as his performance on this dvd was awesome.
:cool:
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Post by: Rover on November 29, 2001, 03:58:51 PM
Re: Tom Waits.
The recent stuff is quite different from the fall off the barstool and hitch all the way to Minessota. Some people hate the newer stuff. I love all eras of the man, country singer to gargle with bourbon to whatever he does now. Recommend Rain Dogs as a first foray. This was his most successful album I think.
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Post by: Rover on November 29, 2001, 04:01:31 PM
The recent Mule Variations is excellent too.
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Post by: Rover on November 29, 2001, 04:04:26 PM
Don't get TW Black Rider. He picked up some tramps (I'm choosing not to use the US version here) at the railway station and got them learn instruments and create music. Sounds exactly like it.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 29, 2001, 11:36:22 PM
MAN in UK Tour Shock!

Well almost. March 2002 is deemed to be the focus of the band's next UK tour. Three dates have been announced so far, covering all compass points (nearly) of London. March 8th at The WPC, 9th at Rayners Lane and 10th at The Torrington. All courtesy of Pete Feenstra who therefore deserves a round of applause.

Further dates are being arranged (hopefully extending the tour out beyond the inner ring road), and the intention is to fill March with gigs.

That's another 28 shows to be sorted out then, so if anyone has a burning desire to promote a MAN gig (for your birthday or otherwise), or has contacts with suitable venues around the country, please make yourself known.

Incidentally, the Silverbirds are playing in Tintern on Friday night, and Ebbw Vale on Saturday. That's Micky, Martin and Merthyr Tom usually. Worth a dollar of anyone's money.
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Post by: tony on November 30, 2001, 12:03:41 AM
beware i think there may be dodgy e-mails doing the rounds with names of people who are not in the mailing list
 tony.
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Post by: tony on November 30, 2001, 12:12:26 AM
march would be a good time for a welsh connvention meybe pete  f and michael heatly could get something going
man ,jets,silverbirds,flying pigs, contraband, bonnie tyler well meybe not
malcom morley with aliens come on michael can you make any thing happen im sure you would get a lot of support it just needs to be on  a saturday so i can get pi ....well have a few beers any way   tony
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Post by: Paul Reilly on November 30, 2001, 12:17:49 AM
Great news about the march dates. How about something on the south coast, Brighton or Hastings. I would be happy to help promote anything local.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on November 30, 2001, 12:37:28 AM
There is one fully paid up member of the M/cr posse who's birthday is on 7 March who by the way was last week mostly listening to Live At The Rainbow and most things Welsh whilst cooking a mega fry up on the forest tracks of Wales with the sound of anti lag from Group B rally cars rumbling and echoing all around. Bliss absolute bliss.
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 30, 2001, 08:41:01 AM
If you are going to delete me, you should let stand the terrible things I wrote. Don't let this board be a facilitator of ignorance.

(This bit added by Jules - I've left this one in so you can understand what we're dealing with.)
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Post by: Maurice Chatigny on November 30, 2001, 09:32:14 AM
What I mean is you shoud not ignore what I wrote and just dismiss it because it is repulsive. Art is sometimes distubing, and I am an artist. Vanquish me if you will. I think I was just looking to stir your emotions. If I was a bit strong , so be it.

(This bit added by Jules - I've left this one in as well.)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 30, 2001, 10:28:39 AM
Well, there's King Tut's/The Ferry/G2 in Glasgow, The Liquid Rooms in Edinburgh and I'm sure there must be suitable venues in Newcastle and Carlisle (or perhaps even Dundee and Perth) that would make a suitable foursome to make a trip up to the real north worthwhile ;-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 30, 2001, 10:41:30 AM
Another one taken :-(
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Post by: Tel on November 30, 2001, 11:19:45 AM
Yep - Goodbye George - Love and Peace.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 12:03:09 PM
As you can see below, Maurice is still able to slip in occasionally, as his dial up access takes a random server within the pool available to him each time he connects. I'm barring each address as he reaches it, so before too long these insertions should stop.

I'm a bit reluctant to wipe out the entire server as this might block others from posting legitimate messages. Let me know if you feel I should be doing this differently.
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Post by: George Jones on November 30, 2001, 01:13:24 PM
The band are not to keen on king tuts in Glasgow seems there a bit hard work with
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 30, 2001, 01:32:05 PM
Oh well.......but G2 or The Ferry would do just as well!!
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Post by: Tim W on November 30, 2001, 02:09:35 PM
Jules

This is always going to be a problem... most dialup service ISPs assign an IP address from a pool each time a user logs on. Depending on the ISP, there might be dozens, hundreds, thousands... it could take ages to find them all. And of course the downside is that you risk blocking other, legitimate users of the same ISP.

The alternative is to use a board with user ids and passwords. This has a larger administrative overhead which is not what you want. And you still can't stop a persistent offender just reregistering with a different user id.

It's the good and bad side of the internet - freedom to comment means freedom to abuse. If I see a post which I don't like, I ignore it, and read the next one. Drawing attention to them probably only encourages them.

In Maurice's case, I suspect it's a case of the drink (or whatever) talking. Whether this is a reasonable excuse is open to debate. Who among us has never had one too many and said something they regretted next day? Trouble is, saying something in the pub is different from posting on a public forum.

A good weekend to all...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 02:17:32 PM
Tim, Yup, you're right of course. I've considered the userids and passwords route too, but as you say this is just as open to abuse. Ok, it would make it a little more difficult for anyone who had been booted out to get back in (they'd have to re-register) but wouldn't really prevent it without a vetting process for new users. Even this would incur a risk that legitimate visitors might be blocked without cause.

Sadly I can't insist everyone takes a breathalyser test before posting messages on the board. I'm working on that though.......

;-)
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Post by: George Jones on November 30, 2001, 02:30:52 PM
A Man convention No 5 is due I think. Who would you like to see play.
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Post by: George Jones on November 30, 2001, 02:41:50 PM
I saw Gong in Goteborg last november 21st. Fantastic concert.
Radio Gnome!
Peter Brandholm
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 02:51:17 PM
WC5?

The Jets (Plum, Deke, Martin, and Simon), Alkatraz (Jimmy, Will, Jeff and Stuart), The Silverbirds (Micky, Martin and Merthyr Tom), Donovan's Brain (Ron, Ron, Jeff, Colter, Richard, Ken and Malcolm), Iceberg (Deke, Martin, Brian and Dave), and um, Man through the years (all of them, although Ray and Chippo have other engagements I believe). Edmunds to guest on Spunk Rock.

Bonnie Tyler could do the merch stall.

:-)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 03:58:25 PM
Sad news about George Harrison. Died yesterday. -Peter Brandholm
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 04:20:45 PM
Sunrise doesn't last all morning
A cloudburst doesn't last all day
Seems my love is up and has left you with no warning
It's not always going to be this grey

All things must pass
All things must pass away

Sunset doesn't last all evening
A mind can blow those clouds away
After all this, my love is up and must be leaving
It's not always going to be this grey

All things must pass
All things must pass away
All things must pass
None of life's strings can last
So, I must be on my way
And face another day

Now the darkness only stays the night-time
In the morning it will fade away
Daylight is good at arriving at the right time
It's not always going to be this grey

All things must pass
All things must pass away
All things must pass
All things must pass away
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 05:30:25 PM
WC5 combined with the first Aliens convention: This will do for starters - Man (with George Jones jamming on Spunk Rock), Malcolm and friends, Eyes of Blue, Crosscut Saw, Iceberg and a Terry Williams drum clinic.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 05:34:29 PM
Two Man compilations spotted in Athens airport yesterday (actually, there was a tremendous collection of "prog-rock" stuff including the Edgar Broughton Band, Gong, Gentle Giant and many more...)
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Post by: Rover on November 30, 2001, 06:32:18 PM
How was the plane spotting?
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Post by: tony on November 30, 2001, 06:44:19 PM
welsh connection :micky jones band
                  micky jones solo
                  flying pigs(with micky jones)            
                  contraband(with micky jones)
                   silverbirds (with micky jones)
                  er.and man
the only artist maurice is ,is a piss artist   tony
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Post by: Allan Heron on November 30, 2001, 06:46:32 PM
That wouldn't be Man featuring Mickey Jones, would it Tony!!!  :cool:
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Post by: halfamix on November 30, 2001, 06:52:43 PM
"He left this world as he lived in it,conscious of God,fearless of death and at peace"
Its not just Georges guitar thats weeping today.
Hare Krishna
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on November 30, 2001, 07:37:39 PM
Tony, you forgot to mention :

Clodagh Rogers (with Micky Jones)
Defenders Of The Faith (with Micky Jones)
The Elderly Brothers (with Micky Jones)
Manipulator (with Micky Jones)
The Attack (with Micky Jones)

A nice well-balanced show I would have thought.
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Post by: tony on November 30, 2001, 08:06:54 PM
the new man cd could be c'mon played for about 80 mins with a great solo from micky!! ahh bliss  tony.
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Post by: Rob Davies on November 30, 2001, 09:04:07 PM
Very sad news about George Harrison; a wonderfully dignified, poignant and ultimately hopeful tribute by his family that Halfamix has quoted earlier.

Tim, I think we all look to ignore posts that we don't like and you are absolutely right about the tension the internet presents in particular between freedom of expression and the scope for abuse. I also think that the people who share this Board display great tolerance and breadth of interest in their enthusiasms and views - hell the Board and the Mailing List even allow an employment lawyer to participate which must offend at least some rule of natural justice ! - but repeated offensive posts merit something more than just turning a blind eye, albeit more in sorrow than in anger.

I would love to see Steelwater play at Welsh Convention 5 as Gary and Taff were absolutley excellent at the RAH; Racing Cars would be on my list too - Graham Williams' playing on their cover of My Guitar Gently Weeps would make Harrison proud - as would John Otway and The Jets and Jackie Leven whether as John St Field or not ! Fantastic news about March too - Pete Feenstra take a bow.
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Post by: Tel on November 30, 2001, 09:45:14 PM
Jules - As much as I applaud your line up for a possible WC5 Martin would be knackered at the end :-)

I'd love to see Iceberg reform for a WC5 though and of course the vastly underated Alkatraz. I agree with Rob Racing Cars (provided they didn't play THAT song)and Steelwater, and perhaps Tweke, Clint and Terry in there somehow. Oh and yes Ron and The Brains of course.

Venue - somewhere with decent beer please!

Any room for Sam Brown on backing vocals :-)
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Post by: Tel on November 30, 2001, 10:16:58 PM
I would just like to extend my regards to the wonderful George Harrison,may you rest in peace.
          Best regards CJ.JJ.SJ.CJ.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 01, 2001, 12:03:31 AM
Tonight I am mostly listening to 'The Concert for Bangla Desh'.  
Sadly, its the only George Harrison I've got (apart,of course, from Badge).
SRI KRSNA.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 01, 2001, 12:14:12 AM
On a lighter note.
I'm with Rob on the Steelwater invite (they deserve it on the strength of their RAH loyalty and performance) and Racing Cars too (they need to get out more, and I'm tolerant of 'that song').
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 01, 2001, 02:03:52 PM
Hello Friends,

On this somber Saturday, following the passing of Beatle George, I'm writing to find if anyone is going to the Dec 22 Man gig in Swansea from the Stafford/Birmingham area.  I'm on extended vacation, presently in Amsterdam (in an internet cafe, you know).  Ironically, I'll be in Swansea earlier un the week, but am heading to the Leicester area to see Roger Chapman on Friday the 21st.  Would like to get back down to Swansea though.

Can anyone help or offer a suggestion.  Is a train feasible?

Thanks alot. Keep on Crinting,

Phil Hildenbrand
riohilden@aol.com
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 01, 2001, 04:53:34 PM
Bereaved. How else to describe the loss. It's like losing a parent or lover. The Beatles were not only the soundtrack of my life but the engineers of many momentous events in it. Humanity has been diminished...
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Post by: Mark Davies on December 02, 2001, 11:08:45 AM
Looked at a new, big coffee table hardback whilst shopping yesterday called "The Book of Rock" (I think). 1 page per band, including photo, and a paragraph about them. Our heroes feature in there with a picture of Mickey sporting an SG and a fetching sleeveless woolly pully. Can't remember exactly what was written, but it was accurate and complimentary. Michael Heatley must have had a hand in it somewhere, but I couldn't find the list of contributors. Other good 70's music seemed to feature in there too.
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Post by: Mark Davies on December 02, 2001, 11:38:32 PM
This weekend's listening:-

The Groundhogs - Split
The Adverts - Crossing The Red Sea
The Bystanders - Pattern People
Joy Division - Closer
David Bowie - The Man Who Sold The World

Variety is the spice of life!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 02, 2001, 11:39:44 PM
This weekend I 'ave been mostly listening to :

Chris Thile - Not All Who Wander Are Lost
Sean Watkins - Let It Fall
Confederate Railroad - Unleashed
Cafe Jacques - Round The Back
Jeff Beck - Guitar Shop
Steve Vai - Lots of stuff from Steve
Albert Collins - Iceman
T Lavitz - Storytime
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 02, 2001, 11:55:44 PM
Anyone looking for the two Archers/Green Ray 12" vinyl releases? I've just noticed they're both for sale on Ebay in the US at about ?6 each (go to category 'music' and search on Help Yourself). A nice addition to anyone's collection.
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Post by: Tel on December 03, 2001, 01:12:41 AM
And this weekend I have had the following gracing the speakers

Jethro Tull - Stand Up
Curved Air - Air Conditioning
Alanis Morisette - Unplugged
Pink Floyd - Meddle and DSOM
Malcolm Morley - Aliens (Again)
Yes - Various (Classic Yes Album)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 03, 2001, 01:34:53 AM
Another nice item for anybody's collection was a little gem I spotted in this month's Record Collector. It's a white label Japanese Pye pressing of 'The Storm' on 7" 45rpm. I'd never known of the existence of this before, and it's not listed in Mannerisms.

Sadly, it had been reserved by the time I got to the phone. I do know who by though......
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Post by: tony on December 03, 2001, 01:51:26 PM
this weekend  we listened to
buzy linart, buzzy
stevie ray vaughan , texas flood
the green ray
the sensational alex harvey band ,next
frank zappa ,sheik yerbouti
red hot chilis , californication
edgar brouhhton band ,oora
we also drank lots of stella !!
my how we laughed high on holding hands
then on monday we had to go back to bleeding work
  tony
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on December 03, 2001, 03:29:09 PM
I see the Archers/Green Ray items I drew attention to 4 posts ago have both now sold - could the purchaser, Ebay user ID 'Tony 7965' be anyone connected to this board?!
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Post by: tony on December 03, 2001, 05:11:07 PM
er well yes its me thanks for the info kev,are you going to swansea for the christmas party  if you are i'll see you  at the bar .  tony
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Post by: Mr Angry on December 03, 2001, 06:19:26 PM
..grrr...every time I log on to this blitherin' board it takes me back to message 1304....slightly before the Great Chatigny Rift of '01....wot am I doing wrong?....

This weekend I sang Roadhouse Blues in a Karaoke bar. And Delilah. Twice. And Minnie the Moocher. And my buddy Dirty sang some god-awful David Cassidy song I'd hoped I'd never hear again. Were we intoxicated perhaps?

Answers on a postcard, please, to:-
The Liver Transplant Unit,
National United Alcohol Abuse Hospital, Pisstup Road,
London
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 03, 2001, 08:02:13 PM
Mr Angry, at a rough guess I'd say your bookmark (or favourites) entry for the board has got a relative parameter attached to it somehow.

If you look at its properties and it doesn't say the URL is

 http://www.manband-archive.com/manboard/manboard.php

    then try deleting the bookmark or favourite, and adding it again.

Another possibility is that your browser is set to not check for newer versions of pages you visit. Have a look (in IE) under Tools > Internet Options >General and click the Settings... button in the Temporary Internet Files section of the dialogue box. If the 'check for newer versions of stored pages' value is set to "never", I'd recommend changing it.

Netscape has a similar bunch of values hidden away in Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Cache > "Document in cache is compared to document on network"

I find checking them once per session is usually good enough. You'd usually know to refresh any pages that change more often each time you visit them.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 03, 2001, 08:42:12 PM
Anyone have any advice please on Guest Houses near the Patti?
And as we say, this weekend I have mostly been listening to........nothing, revising for exam taken today. 43 and still doing exams, what's the point of it all?????
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 03, 2001, 09:21:20 PM
Just getting ready for a busy gig schedule next few weeks,its YES on friday in cardiff,then the two MAN gigs on the fourteenth ans twenty second,top class entertainment beckons.
This weeks playlist
Hawkwind-Palace springs
Frank Zappa-them or us
Soundchaser-Intergalactic radio station
Chuck van Zyl-Celestial mechanics
Man-be good to yourself at least ETC
Ozric tentacles-Afterswish.
Best regards   CJ.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 03, 2001, 11:39:53 PM
It's raining Man.

Another live date in the vicinity of (wait for it, wait for it) London.

Saturday Feb 2nd 2002 at the Standard in Walthamstow. Promoted by those good people at Radio Never Say Die, who are opening their new Saturday night season with an appearance by the Manband.

Tickets ?8.00, or ?9.00 on the door.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on December 04, 2001, 04:00:13 PM
I don't think anyone's mentioned the Neutrons as TWC5 contributors.

Does anyone remember Glenn Phillips (that's ex-Hampton's Grease Band Guitarist, not the Toad the Wet Sprockett version). I have been trying to get hold of his music on CD for some time without any joy.

Man at Rayners Lane. On a Saturday. Deep Joy. I just hope it is better attended than last time.
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Post by: michael heatley on December 04, 2001, 04:56:33 PM
I godda flu (groan).

Du cadt hab da Nutrond @ TWC coz Fil is duk in Dedbark!

Eddyway wen is TWC5 codz nobuddy's tode be?!
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Post by: michael heatley on December 04, 2001, 04:56:43 PM
I godda flu (groan).

Du cadt hab da Nutrond @ TWC coz Fil is duk in Dedbark!

Eddyway wen is TWC5 codz nobuddy's tode be?!
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Post by: michael heatley on December 04, 2001, 04:57:27 PM
make dat dubba flu!
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Post by: halfamix on December 04, 2001, 06:08:57 PM
I had a flu jab two weeks ago, happy to report am feeling fine and dandy and waiting for Friday the 14th:-)
:cool:
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Post by: Rob Davies on December 04, 2001, 10:34:25 PM
Oh God - four London gigs a month apart in February and March and our baby is due on January 2nd. I sense some potential tensions regarding weekend leisure time in the soon to be expanded Davies household. I have seen Man at each location and they were all memorable and enjoyable gigs; the Standard earlier in the year, Torrington and Worcester Park in 1999 and the glorious experience of seeing Man for the first time since 1983 at the Cine Bar (good venue) at Rayners Lane in October 1997, and with Phil Ryan too. And they played Spunk Rock; and I wasn't driving so chain smoked and chain drank with nervous energy from the doors opening until about half way through the set and I can still remember that they played Spunk Rock.

This week much like last week I have been listening to ante-natal classes and trying to keep my panic and complete uselessness in check. Ann is in control and I'm thinking about whether getting to the hospital at least two weeks before contractions start might not be leaving it a bit late.

Did anyone see Later last Friday ? Tom Jones and Jools did a couple of fine versions of Jerry Lee Lewis tracks and Feeder did an incredibly bad cover of Can't Stand Losing You, a single that I bought on blue vinyl with a picture cover that made my Mother question what the world was coming to.

Halfamix and Colin, have a great time in Cardiff on the 14th and everyone else who is going to the Patti on the 22nd do likewise. Rob W - the Patti is not far from Wind Street where we saw Man at the Railmen's in December 1999 so any of the B&Bs along the front will do the trick.
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Post by: tony on December 04, 2001, 11:11:30 PM
any one know anything about man at the roundhouse video michael is offering for sale via twc, is it a gig or a documentry cant wait for the patti party is every one going,  cheers  tony.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 05, 2001, 12:45:58 AM
I may have to buy the Roundhouse video as Neil F still has my copy (with accompanying  tapes). Approx 2 years now I guess!! Tony, video is a documentary with some Roundhouse 76 footage. Won't say more, just get it.
Rob D, best wishes to you and Mrs Rob D. Was this planned so you could have your pictures in the local paper with first baby of the new year and all that? Does this mean no Patti? The M/cr 5 are looking forward to the Patti gig. Will be going via Rockfield Studios again. Will NOT be going to the same Guest House as last time in Swansea. And Robbie The Bobby has been sacked. Abusive language to the officials - a sad day for Shakers everywhere.
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Post by: just asking on December 05, 2001, 01:52:56 AM
I been meaning to check the Groundhogs for a while now but something has been ... holding me back. Anything I should know?
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Post by: Adam on December 05, 2001, 02:01:31 AM
Yes congrats Rob D.  :D Try to relax, they've been having babes for awhile now since even before hospitals! Why, I (or should I say she) had our pup at home with the midwife no sweat. :-)
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Post by: Bobby Fisher's pawn on December 05, 2001, 02:29:40 AM
now in my second listen to side 3 of Yes, Tales From Topographic Oceans it's bloody brill. If you are committed to the the jam it is great. If not it does stink. How odd. It's a great LP.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 05, 2001, 03:03:11 PM
Rob.  The baby will be two months old in March and quite able to look after itself by then.  
Congratulations (and don't forget that you will need to visit all the London venues so you can be sure eveyone has seen the photos).

P.S. Has Micheal got pluralsy?
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Post by: halfamix on December 05, 2001, 03:31:38 PM
Hope all goes well Rob with the upcoming sprog. I made a promise to myself when a teenager that I was not responsable enough to have kids and now at the age of 41 I am still keeping to that promise (although I nearly fell down when a costume designer with BBC's Casualty series became pregnant!)
Further to the info I gave earlier on Inner City Units xmas party I just had a e-mail from Nik Turner stating the venue has been changed from Dingwalls in Camden Town to The Mean Fiddler (formerly LA2) its still on the 17th Dec at 7.30pm and tickets are still ?9.
Is it just going to be Colin J and me at the Point on the 14th? Come on boys(and girls) who else can make it? Oooh e-mail from Mike B hes coming as well. The more the Merrier.
:cool:
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Post by: Tim W on December 05, 2001, 08:38:55 PM
Roundhouse video is reviewed at

http://www.ringsoft.demon.co.uk/man/video/rndhse76.htm
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Post by: Tel on December 05, 2001, 11:09:18 PM
I'M BACK!!!!

My Man web site, which went walkies in July is now back in a new all singing all dancing version. It can be found here http://homepage.ntlworld.com/willsont/Man/ or by just clicking the link on the left. Please note the URL has changed slightly so if you had any bookmarks/favourites they will need to be updated. Any comments/crticism please let me know - my E-Mail address is on the left. Keep On Crinting - Tel
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Post by: michael heatley on December 06, 2001, 11:16:37 AM
Sod drugs, Nurofen colds & flu is the stuff!
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Post by: halfamix on December 06, 2001, 05:37:23 PM
Michael I recommend downing a bottle of Benylin (cough medicine to non-UK persons) if it doesn't sort the flu out,it'll make it far more interesting!
I am speaking from experience although it was about 20yrs ago that I sampled this particular delicacy.
:cool:
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on December 06, 2001, 05:44:49 PM
Halfamix - I intend to be in Cardiff next week for the gig at the Point - is the venue out in Cardiff Bay? And where is the meeting place beforehand? Perhaps we could share a bottle of Benylin?!
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Post by: Tim W on December 06, 2001, 05:45:12 PM
The site to the left is worth a look if you're bored; links to more sites than you can shake a stick at.
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Post by: halfamix on December 06, 2001, 05:45:55 PM
Today I am mostly listening to "Exiles" by ex Crimson violin player David Cross,this CD rocks! With guests Peter Hammill and John Wetton in fine voice and Mr Fripp in full 'wig out' fuzz feedback mode,lyrics by the talented Pete Sinfield,a good addition to the crimbo stocking if there ever was one.
(although a fine shapely pair of female legs also look good in a stocking!)
Ohhh sorry wrong board!!
:cool:
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Post by: Cheryl Baker's Legs on December 06, 2001, 06:01:52 PM
I always thought that "The Land Of Make Believe" was Mr Sinfield's creative peak
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Post by: micky jones' pyjamas on December 06, 2001, 06:17:19 PM
Wasn't Benilyn (sp?) the cause of Man's late arrival @ GT2?! I'm sticking to Nurofen...
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Post by: halfamix on December 06, 2001, 06:41:08 PM
Hi Kevin, not sure of a meeting place as of yet as I don't know Cardiff very well.We met up in the Prince of Wales near the station when the boys played CIA in September. The worlds biggest Tangerine Dream fan Mr Colin J might know of a place? (Are you out there CJ)
:cool:
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Post by: ony on December 06, 2001, 07:47:42 PM
my  chistmas wish list
micky jones solo gig in my front room
thin lizzy box set
deke leonard unfinished busines on cd
man undrugged
plane ticket to new york to see nektar next year,
not bad eh,  
bet i only get a pair of socks again,
oh well im the king of wishfull thinking (where have i heard that line before)   tony
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Post by: t on December 06, 2001, 07:48:26 PM
heres the missing t
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 06, 2001, 11:33:27 PM
Congrats on your site. Was on it for ages last night, really good. Interesting your first Man gig was in 1975. It seems many people who I've met through the Board discovered Man in 1975/6 era. I remember M/cr crowds increased a lot from 75 which always used to make me wonder why they packed it in. Anyway, great site, hopefully see you on 22nd.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 07, 2001, 12:22:08 AM
Lools like I had a missing T, e, and l.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 07, 2001, 12:46:43 AM
Outline planning permission gained from the 'more than significant other' for a pre-christmas shopping trip to Swansea - only she's not coming!!!.
Hotel/Guest House needed.  Any recommendations? Any to avoid?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 07, 2001, 02:10:11 AM
Thanks TWC for the overwhelmingly enticing merchandise mayhem which has blown a hole through most of next years CD budget, that's only fair. :-)
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 07, 2001, 10:02:25 AM
Christmas shopping? I would highly recommend the Electric Guitar Slinger John Cippolina video.I purchased it back in June.With a bankers draft it cost me a total of twenty seven quid , took about two weeks to arrive and was well worth the wait.There are some blinding live clips and hugely entertaining interviews with various famous names.Unfortunately there is no involvement from the Manband (a few words from the boys would have been great)Also the live clips are all too brief and leave you wanting more.Apart from that it`s superb.Buy now!
I was also wondering if anyone backed the 3.30 at Wetherby a few Wednesdays back.The horse in question romped in first at 9-1 and was called Help Yourself.Who says picking out horses by name does`nt pay? I wonder if Keith Hodge backed it? Lastly, George Jones is spot on about the Super Furry Animals(has Deke heard Run Christian Run, I wonder?).........Merry Christmas to all!
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Post by: Mike Aboud on December 07, 2001, 12:35:40 PM
I got into the band around the release of Slow Motion (now there's a top album...) which would have made it 1974, when John Peel was championing them on his Radio show. Then straight after that was Maximum Darkness (oh deep joy). Maybe that would explain their surge of popularity around 75? I could have gone to the gig where that was recorded, but I went to see Deep Purple at the Empire Pool Wembley with Tommy Bolin instead. Serious, serious, serious error of judgement.
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Post by: Gordon Luck on December 07, 2001, 03:08:08 PM
Tim-I was there when the Roundhouse video was filmed in 1976. Pictures taken at the time can be found on my site.
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Post by: Tel on December 07, 2001, 07:55:41 PM
For those who had problems with my Web site - it's now Netscape friendly. I haven't had chance to test it Netscape 6 but it should be okay.

URL on the left

Tel
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Post by: Tel on December 07, 2001, 09:08:33 PM
Today I have been mostly listening to White Stripes - White Blood Cells, Family - Radio 1 Live In Concert and Hawkwind - The 1999 Party. Yes this is the same Chicago gig the Man bootleg came from. I spotted it today in a shop called Powerplay in the Kennet Centre, Newbury. I'm a bit disappointed to have stumbled across this shop as it's going to cost me a bloody fortune. It is overflowing with 70s rock stuff, an aging hippy's dream. Any one within striking distance of Newbury should pay a call. Can't make the Patti, my band has a gig in Wallingford (Oxfordshire) that night.
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Post by: tony on December 07, 2001, 10:30:05 PM
this weekends listening is gonna be the stevie ray vaughan box set, i played the dvd last night and it blew me away its so good i played it twice im gonna play the cds this weekend ,i cant understandhow this man escaped me for so long he was truely amazing thanks to every who sugested the cds   tony
ps i know my spellings crop!!
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Post by: a gape on December 08, 2001, 04:27:06 AM
Jules, don't you think this board needs a jolly, laughing emoticon?
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Post by: applejack on December 08, 2001, 05:36:12 AM
:D
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Post by: Owen/Cardiff on December 08, 2001, 09:27:26 PM
My Xmas wish list

Man at the Point, Dec 14:
C'mon, Ride and the view, Bananas, Spunk Rock, Storm, Do it, Daughter of..., Many are called, Even Visionaries... BLISS
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Post by: Colin Jouxson on December 08, 2001, 10:18:37 PM
Hello all
Went to see the superb YES last night in Cardiff,believe me just as superb as ever
Anderson never ceases to amaze me,a complete genius of a front man,close to the edge,ritual,and you and i and my personal favorite the GATES OF DELIRIUM amongst other CLASSIC goodies,if you can catch them on the remaining dates of the tour,GO FOR IT ?38.00 of well spent cash.
Roll on the Greatest MAN 14,12,01 THOU SHALT BE THERE
 Best regards    CJ
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Post by: Colin Jouxson(aka Edgar Froese on December 08, 2001, 10:25:14 PM
Hello the great half man(STEVE),I will be in the prince of wales from 3,0 clock on next friday,hopefully a nice quick day on the back of that sweaty dustbin cart,and an immediate departure to Cardiff HOPE to see you there PAL
        Best regards   CJ
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 08, 2001, 11:35:28 PM
:p
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 09, 2001, 12:24:15 AM
An unusually meek retort? :rolleyes:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 09, 2001, 04:24:06 PM
I wasn't retorting (!) I was grabbing message 1600 :cool:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 09, 2001, 07:27:08 PM
Well the new smilies are here. They'll make you want to :laugh4: or :sad5:

It was hard work, so somebody owes me a :beer2:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 09, 2001, 09:14:17 PM
:arse:
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Post by: tony on December 09, 2001, 10:01:52 PM
mmmmmm nice and rounded.
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Post by: a grape on December 09, 2001, 11:19:26 PM
:smile3:

that's what i'm talking about. :laugh4:

Next time you're in my neighborhood I'm buying the beverages. Tony as well. C ya here. Cheers, Adam (my real name)
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 10, 2001, 12:33:35 AM
The M/cr 5 for 22 Dec will now be The M/cr 3 :sad5: however should still be ample to be able to :beer:
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Post by: Adam/nyc on December 10, 2001, 12:47:34 AM
this weekend in the cd layer it's been
Van Morrison: St. Dominick's
Joe Walsh: Rocky Mountain High
Blind Faith
MAN: WC4 LA2 98, Welsh Connection
Yes: Tales Topographic
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 10, 2001, 12:58:49 AM
Turn To Stone has always been my favourite Joe Walsh track....Just thought I'd say,like. And has Rocky Mountain Way more recorded versions than Bananas?
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 10, 2001, 01:07:48 AM
Hey......Joe Walsh sings John Denver  :eek4:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 01:12:16 AM
Hmm, some of these smilies seem a bit jaggy on a grey background. Looks like I have a little tidying up to do.

This weekend the cd player has been spinning :

Peter Green Splinter Group - Time Traders
Kevin Brown - Rust
Dixie Dregs - What If & Freefall
Little Feat - The Last Record Album
Dire Straits - Dire Straits
Blink 182 - Take Off Your Pants And Jacket
Asana - Shrine
Bob Dylan - Love And Theft
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 10, 2001, 01:20:28 AM
I caught up with my outstanding listening to new stuff this weekend - no doubt the postie will drop another bundle of CDR's for me tomorrow and the whole process will start again.

I've just got four great CDR's of Rockpile which made me regret never catching them when they were around.  Really terrific stuff and Mr Williams really does state the case for his being recognised as the best drummer around.

Also a great Dylan show from Newark in 1998 which finds the man in great form.

Ian McNabb recorded half an album with Crazy Horse and toured with them - I've got a CDR of their performance at Glastonbury in 1994 and it cooks.

Only "legitimate" release I've listened to all weekend is the Live At The Roxy album by Brian Wilson - counting down the days to the 25 January  :tongue2:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 01:47:44 AM
The latest news update from Montana has just been posted in the Donovan's Brain website.

Some intriguing hints of a possible European tour are mixed in with the studio and live snippets.

:splat:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 01:55:39 AM
If you like the James Gang, you've got to give props Joe Walsh. Turn to stone is a classic. Denver? Well, to pay the bills?  :hippie:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 02:15:54 AM
:eek3: oops. I mean Rocky Mountain Way. And it's Meadow i like best.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 12:18:25 PM
How I hate going back to work on a Monday morning after a few days off. :mad3:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 01:09:19 PM
This weekend I visited my local library and borrowed some Cd's including a couple of Zappa compilations. But the ones I've listened to this weekend are:

Rory Gallagher - BBC recordings, great stuff.

Stevie Vai - from 1995, can't remember title, 7 tracks only 33 mins, mainly instremental. Great technique and playing, but dies he have any sole?:rockin:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 01:10:29 PM
Should read "does he have any soul?"
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 10, 2001, 02:07:27 PM
You kidding? Listen to 'Tender Surrender' and weep. Just imagine what it feels like to play that piece.

:love:
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Post by: Mark Davies on December 10, 2001, 03:32:04 PM
A friend once lent me Steve Vai's Passion & Warfare, but it was far too widdly for me.
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Post by: tony on December 10, 2001, 07:34:29 PM
firstly i think i'll nab 1621 before any one else, this weekend was spent listening to stevie ray vaughan and david gilmour live from the melt down fest,
stevie ray vaughan won hands down  tony
roll on the 22 dec the pattie does a crap pint in a plastic glass but the musics always great,(except when bony tiller was singing  )   cheers  tony
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 10, 2001, 08:37:13 PM
Where are we going to meet for drink/food (the latter optional) before the gig on the 22nd.  We're staying in Oystermouth Road which I know is just along from the Patti but it'd be good to have the chance of some decent beer beforehand :beer:  We'll be starting out from Paisley at about 0830/0900 and would like to think we can make Swansea by 5 o'clock at the latest
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Post by: Colin J on December 10, 2001, 10:26:37 PM
Hmm to right (T) the beer at the patti was crap last time,plastic glasses and ?2.50 a can for strongbow,aarrgghhh.
A bottle of Glenfiddich in the inside pocket is a must,if your pockets are big enough.
      Best regards   CJ:WINK2::BOUNCE:
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Post by: Colin J on December 10, 2001, 10:28:30 PM
:wink: :bounce: thats better.
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Post by: Colin J on December 10, 2001, 10:31:25 PM
:brickwall:
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Post by: tony on December 10, 2001, 11:08:35 PM
the panty gyder in richardson street is a good pub not to far from the patti, a lot of man fans drink there and clive and micky(im not worthy im not worthy )have been known to pop in for a jar or two thats where me and dave will be ,last time we got a cab to the patti from there it cost ?1.50 and thats cos the bastard thought we were tourists and toke us the long way round it took two mins to get there . cheers  tony
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Post by: tony on December 10, 2001, 11:12:04 PM
im not sure if i mean took or toke!!nudge nudge wink wink....wot no little men banging there heads. tony
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 10, 2001, 11:42:52 PM
Allan, which Guest House are you staying at? I've tried a few places including a cheapish hotel which Patti recommended and they're shut.....Anyone, drinks near the Patti as mentioned below, or Wetherspoons in Swansea centre then curry?
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 11, 2001, 12:56:41 AM
The Scottish contingent of four is booked into The Lyndale (01792 653882) which is at 324 Oystermouth Road and is the one I stayed at two years ago.  Tel's booked in there too.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 01:02:29 AM
Can't go :sad3:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 01:08:47 AM
The panty girdle's always a good bet. Curry after? Up a bit, left a bit, down St Helens Road, a few good places in the area. Then left again down to the Patti and Robert's yer Farver's Bruvver.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 03:47:07 AM
"And has Rocky Mountain Way more recorded versions than Bananas?"

>>>wait a sec, sombody has a count of the recorded Bananas tracks? :sonar:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 04:17:09 AM
Enjoy the gigs you lucky dogs :sad5:
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Post by: tony on December 11, 2001, 08:43:22 AM
got it 1634!!!   tony
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 12:51:41 PM
:help:

1634?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 12:53:14 PM
Perhaps it's the number of recorded versions of Bananas? :ewj:
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Post by: George Jones on December 11, 2001, 01:07:25 PM
If you are looking for somewhere nice to stay in swansea for the man gig, seek out the Singleton hotel on Dylwin Street the rooms are ?15 a night and they have a small but well kept selection of real ales and single malt whiskey. The old man is also a regular here and it is also where i work, to pay for my strings and crazy nights out on the razzzzzz. The landlord Alan is a madhatter and the landlady Linda who is Italian is quite simply the best cook in the world ( apart from mum ) No really it is your beest bet if you are looking for somewhere to stay. Chowbella!!!!!!
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Post by: George Jones on December 11, 2001, 01:10:29 PM
Forget the pantygwyder its not the same pub anymore the beer is expensive and there is no atmos after Wayne the old Landlord left
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Post by: George Jones on December 11, 2001, 01:27:13 PM
Jules, send me some of your stuff like Vai, satriani, Morse etc on C.D.R and ill make you up some Cds of some stuff that I like ( I promice I wont put any Yngwie Malmsteen in there ).  you must check out the tracks Black Star and Far beyond the sun, also Icarus dream sweet. Malmsteen can be quite breathtaking to listen to. I saw him at the astoria in June and he blew the place up
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 02:19:22 PM
George, it's a deal. Watch your letterbox.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 11, 2001, 02:21:41 PM
By the way George, did you get to see Vai at the Astoria, or was there another bizarre hostage taking incident on the M4?
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Post by: halfamix on December 11, 2001, 10:21:57 PM
Hi All
Colin J or should that read Mr wink2Bounce! I will see you in the POW on Friday 14th don't know if I can make it as early as 3 o'clock as Mark is giving me a lift over again so its up to him.
All this talk of Joe Walsh got me spinning a few discs that don't get played to often but I can assure you all the the LP "The smoker you drink the player you get" is an excellant LP.
I was lucky enough to see Steve Vai playing with Frank Zappa in 1984 all I can say is whew! The only CD I have from Steve himself is "Sex and Religion" which is good and technically proficient but seems to lack soul:cool3:
:rockin2:
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Post by: Rob Davies on December 11, 2001, 10:22:30 PM
It is very frustrating watching all the messages about the Patti and knowing that you can't make the gig yourself, although impending parenthood is the best possible reason for missing out! Thanks for all the kind wishes from everyone; Ann is well, the midwife seems pleased with her progress but the little Davies looks set on arriving before 2 January. My panic levels fluctuate between extreme and, well, extreme but hopefully all will be fine.    

As a pre-Christmas treat and in an attempt to provide a distraction on Saturday I bought the Floyd compilation and a Boz Scaggs Anthology, on the strength of his performance on Later recently. Very impressive; Lido Shuffle is brilliant. I still have not tracked down a copy of the Rory Box-set in London so it will have to be mail order. Any ideas on where to pick up the Repertoire reissue of Man - Michael H, will TWC be selling this ?
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Post by: Paul Reilly on December 12, 2001, 11:10:14 AM
Julues, listened to Stevie Vai again last night. Your right, Tender Surrender is a lovely peice. I will Percy Vere with the album, as I said a great player, but overdoes it a bit at times. Plays guitar like Maria Carey sings ( is this a first mention for maria on the site?).
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 12, 2001, 11:11:52 AM
But does he have the figure to match - a lustful :bounce:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 12, 2001, 12:22:11 PM
I s'pose we'll be needing a lechers smilie now will we? Unisex of course.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 12, 2001, 02:15:35 PM
Paul, When I first heard Steve Vai (on Flexable) I wasn't impressed. Likewise Sex & Religion didn't do much for me, being rather sterile and having far too many vocals. Passion & Warfare is hard work for a few gems (Greasy Kids Stuff being one of them). Alien Love Secrets and Fire Garden are both brilliant in my view, and interestingly were recorded during the same sessions.

Once I'd understood where he was going I was hooked. It takes a little while to get into his head, but pays off in the end. I was initially somewhat anti-Vai, having been put off by all the hype and guitar magazine veneration. They were right though, and Zappa knew what he had in his little Italian stunt guitarist.

I should also point out that most of what he does on record, he does onstage too. Apart from play all the instruments at the same time. The guy is a superb player and an outstanding showman. By far the best guitarist to watch that I have ever seen, he doesn't take himself too seriously and just has a ball.

When I saw him in Sheffield a couple of years ago he was so good that he made me laugh out loud in admiration. I would have thrown my panties onstage, but nobody needs that.

Ultrazone disappointed me, but then he's off ploughing a particular furrow. The 7th Song is primarily a compilation, with one new track. The latest live double I haven't got yet, but that's on the list.

Despite all the above, I still think that Steve Morse is the better ensemble player.
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Post by: tony on December 12, 2001, 05:40:08 PM
im off to see think floyd tonite at lincoln any one seen them are they any good, i saw the counterfete stones last year and they were bleein great, i like the tribute band thing ,if i could play, i'd do a micky jones er i mean man band tribute .   tony .  ps any spelling mistakes are intentional!!
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Post by: tony on December 12, 2001, 05:44:45 PM
do the tribute bands have to pay the origianal bands any royalties or who ever owns the song rights  , or can any play any song live ,but pay royalties only when they record anyone elses songs tony
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 12, 2001, 06:09:31 PM
I think that's covered by the Performing Rights Society gubbins. Possibly part of the entertainment license? Not that I know anything about it.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 12, 2001, 06:25:23 PM
Jules is right.  For pub level venues, the entertainment license covers this. For the larger venues the bands have to submit details of the songs they play.  I remember there was an amusing incident a few years ago when U2 left off a song they had played and they were fined by their own publishers for not submitting information on a song they had written themselves!!!  In other words, they were fined for depriving themselves of additional income.  Madness.

The other thing that gets me relates to plaigirism suits that are brought all too frequently.  These are usually reported in relation to the composers when it's actually the publishers who are the ones who drive the legislation.  Jagger and Richards have got a bit of a bad names on the back of ABKCO's exuberance to go to court on the back of the Stones sixties catalogue.  In most cases, the artists tend to take a much more relaxed view of things - it's just a pity that most of them don't own the copyright for their songs.

Of course, the ultimate ridiculousness was the John Fogerty case when he was accused (by a previous publisher) of plaigirising himself on a new song.  I think the court threw this one out, but only after a lengthy hearing.
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Post by: halfamix on December 12, 2001, 09:29:36 PM
Hi All
Colin J I will probably have to go straight to The Point on the 14th as Mark the driver who has just got back from Colditz (I kid you not) has to work until 6 o'clock on Friday so we will not be able to get to Cardiff until 8 or 9 so better go straight to venue,see ya there mate and all others who can make it?
:hippie:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 12, 2001, 09:42:22 PM
One of the Scottish contingent - the virgin of the group - has called off from The Patti which means that one ticket and one bed in a twin room is going a-begging.  Total cost for both is ?31.

If anyone is going and hasn't availed themselves of a ticket and a place to rest their head for the evening, please contact me.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 12, 2001, 09:42:51 PM
Hello Half mix(Steve)
I will see you later on friday evening,i will be with same guys as last time.Im just off to immerse myself in the Ozric Tentacles and Tan(OOPS):censored:
   Best regards  CJ :wink2: :beer2:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 13, 2001, 12:13:46 AM
The M/cr contingent is now down to two. Neil F can't make it, ostensibly because of work, I reckon he doesn't want to give me my tapes back. I wonder what they sound like? Can't remember what was on them! Anyway, I thought it would be 4-2 to the Scottish contingent, it's now 3-2.. Games not over until the fat lady sings! We're staying at the Bayeswater Hotel on Oystermouth Rd. Will visit Rockfield Studios first. Steve, who I'm bringing, is not a Man virgin, but fairly inexperienced. He has met Nils Lofgren. :wink2: :wave3: :bounce:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 13, 2001, 03:18:21 AM
>>>or was there another bizarre hostage taking incident on the M4?<<<

here in the States we never heard what the holdup on the gig in question was caused by???
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Post by: halfamix on December 13, 2001, 04:19:24 AM
The hostage taking incident on the day of GT2 that caused the main route (M4)from Wales to London to be closed was a guy kidnapping his baby son in Cornwall then running out of petrol on the M4 and holding his own baby sun at gunpoint for roughly 24hrs until common sense prevailed and he gave himself up but not until traffic meltdown had occured.
:help:
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Post by: Adam on December 13, 2001, 04:47:19 AM
What a twit.  :mad3:
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Post by: A;llan Heron on December 13, 2001, 10:42:57 AM
England 2, Scotland 3......now that does have a ring to it.  Oh yes, the Summer of Love and all that :hippie:
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Post by: Paul Reilly on December 13, 2001, 11:15:09 AM
Jules, you said"Steve Morse is the better ensemble player". Who is he and who does he play with/for. Excuse my ignorance.
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Post by: Ritchie Blackmore on December 13, 2001, 11:21:27 AM
Morse is some little American twerp that thinks he can do my job.........and the rest of the band like him too  :sad5:
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Post by: George Jones on December 13, 2001, 12:31:52 PM
Im afraid Ritchie is with the Pixies these days. Hell probably end up a regular on C.I.T.V. playing with sooty and sweep
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Post by: George Jones on December 13, 2001, 12:59:59 PM
If you want to know a good guitar player have a listen to a chap called Jason Becker. Jason Becker started playing the guitar at the age of three and by the age of seventeen he had met Marty Friedman future guitarist of Megadeath. They formed the band Cataphoney and toured Japan and the states.He then Realeased the album Prepetual Burn which showcases his real talents. Marty Friedman also guests on this album. Becker was 17 when this album came out in 89. in 90 he became the member of Dave Lee Roths band replacing none other than Steve Vai. Tragedy then struck he was then diagnosed with A.L.S. A violent form of M.S. after discovering a lazy limp in his leg. He was given 5 years to live but is still alive and recording music using eye movements cheack out his site on www.Jason Becker.com
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 13, 2001, 01:25:50 PM
Paul, Steve Morse is/was the main man with Dixie Dregs who produced a slew of fantastic albums in the 1979-1985 era. The band also included Andy West on muscular bass, Rod Morgenstein on drums (he would give Terry Williams a serious challenge for the best drummer in the world title), Allen Sloan on violin, T Lavitz on keyboards. If you remember the theme music for Tommy Vance's Friday Rock Show, that was Dixie Dregs on an off day.

Morse has also released half a dozen or so solo albums that confirm his skills.

For the last few years he's been helping Deep Purple rediscover what it's like to be good. His talent is a little obscured by playing in the Purps (the Dregs were by far his best vehicle and he isn't breaking sweat alongside Lord, Glover and Paice), but he still shines.
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Post by: George Jones on December 13, 2001, 01:43:35 PM
I look forward to seeing morse in feb with Deep Purple
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Post by: halfamix on December 13, 2001, 03:00:18 PM
When I saw ya all chatting about Steve Morse I got a little confused (not difficult) and thought ya were refering to Spocks Beards mainman but of course thats Neil Morse (I wonder if Steve and Neil are related?)
On the subject of great guitarists I am very surprised that no one has mentioned the phenomenonable John McLaughlin he of the Mahavishnu Orchestra surely one of the most technically brillant guitarists around? He no longer plays in the 'Rock' field and has gone Jazzy but he has been touring lately with Shakti who are a superb Indian fusion band and I can recommend their LP's to all.
:hippie: :cool3:
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Post by: Tel on December 13, 2001, 04:25:52 PM
I think Jules is possibly understating the effect Steve Morse has had on the Purplemeisters. Personally I believe he gave them the proverbial boot up the arse and turned them from a rather pale imitation of themselves into a great band again. The difference between The Battle Rages On (last RB) and Purpendicular (first SM) albums is quite phenominal.

Abandon, the second studio album with Morse, actually shows some experimentation again and I personally cannot wait for the next studio album, due early next year.:rockin:

As for Mr Blackmore, there is an artcle somewhere on the deep purple main site from the 1980's stating his fascination with folk and minstrel music, so he may not be as mad as people think he is. He's doing is own thing and very we'll according to reports - fair play to him.

By the way I had curry for lunch :fart:
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Post by: Tel on December 13, 2001, 04:26:26 PM
Sorry that was just a cheap shot to use the fart smilie!!!!
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Post by: Tel on December 13, 2001, 06:25:07 PM
I'm off to see DP in February. I have plenty of their albums (or did before selling many of them to get money) but a virgin as far as seeing them live. There was a programme recently which featured RB doing his demons and wizards bit. Can't remember the name.  And George, thanks for mention of the Singleton Hotel as a place to stay. I phoned Directory Enquiries for the phone no. They hadn't got it! (ps also seeing Roger Waters. That's the missus again. Better than Barry White though - but only just!)
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Post by: Tel on December 14, 2001, 01:57:24 AM
You all know this already I'm sure but I just heard the previously unknown bit of DP trivia that Smoke On The Water was about a Swiss casino Zappa and the Mothers burned down. Cool. Nice to know Frank was stirring up the Swiss for a while and had a hand in a true (albeit dated) classic. :laugh4:

My favorite line from Deke's book: "hunnerds of peoples do ziss effery day..."
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Post by: Tel on December 14, 2001, 03:14:40 AM
>>>contingent is now down to two. Neil F can't make it, ostensibly because of work, I reckon he doesn't want to give me my tapes back<<<

Rob W, isn't misappropriation of MAN materiel a drawing and quartering offence???
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Post by: Tel on December 14, 2001, 03:32:18 AM
Quoth the Village gossip:

 "You ordered the plate of steamy gossip with a side of glitzy premieres and grasping multimedia stars? Well, for starters, I hear that the unintentionally campy teen diva Charlotte Church has been biologically catapulted into a possibly premature ladyhood?yes, the Church now has steeples?and her handlers are freaking out about how to market this newly tumescent creation.

Having a Britney Spears type singing "Ave Maria" wasn't exactly what they had in mind, even if they are trying to cross her over into pop. Expect much strapping down of bosoms, which will prompt even higher notes..."
 
Nevermind Catherine Zeta-Jones, this fairy creature has now entered my (PG rated) dreams. Does that make me a bad man?

:splat:
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Post by: Tel on December 14, 2001, 11:52:03 AM
Jules, Thanks for the info on Steve Morse, I will check him out this weekend.(Not in person, on the net and at the local, but very poor, record store).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 14, 2001, 12:24:20 PM
It's Friday, so :arse:

Paul, The Dregs albums 'Freefall' and 'What If' are recommended.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on December 14, 2001, 01:21:35 PM
No one has mentioned Glenn Phillips amongst the other guitar greats. If anyone can track down a copy of "echoes" his 2CD compilation it is worth a listen, if a little bizarre and eclectic at times.

Also wasn't Jeff Beck consistently voted world's greatest guitarist consistently in the 70's and 80's? I don't have any of his albums but an old friend of mine was always raving about Beck, Bogert and Appice. Anyone got any Jeff Beck recommendations?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 14, 2001, 01:36:54 PM
Deep, deep joy.  I've got the all clear for the Patti next Saturday.  
Will tickets be available on the door or is advanced booking recommended?
:rockin:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 14, 2001, 02:05:45 PM
For Jeff Beck I'd suggest the obvious; 'Blow By Blow', 'Wired' and 'Guitar Shop'.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on December 14, 2001, 04:17:17 PM
Blimey Jools, the three Jeff Beck albums you mention are available as a box set at just the right side of twenty nicker. Sounds tempting, if only all my money this month wasn't already assigned to putchas of gameboy/bob the builder/barbie merchandise :sad3:.
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Post by: Mike Aboud on December 14, 2001, 04:19:14 PM
Rob you've got all this to look forward to...does that make you feel :eek4:?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 14, 2001, 05:39:50 PM
Rugrats?

I've had a few,
But then again, too few to mention.

(with apologies to Francis Albert)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 14, 2001, 09:57:06 PM
:bounce:Jeff Beck: What about Truth? It's the blue print for a lot of music that came afterwards including Led Zep. I like most all his album except BBA! The worst band he ever had. I left the gig in tears. The band that he had just before with Cozy Powell and Bob Tench was much better. I also saw a five piece "BBA" with Tench and Max Middleton on piano. That was pretty good until Timmy Bogart decided to sing and take a long bass solo. So then necessary Beck lps: Truth, Jeff Beck (the 4th album produced by Steve Cropper), Blow By Blow, Live With Jan Hammer, There And Back, and the newest one. I like Rough And Ready too, but some of the songs aren't that great. Did you know they originally recorded that album with Alex Ligertwood? Beck didn't like it so he hired Tench who redid the vocals, but some weren't in his range. The Beck Top Gear session are some of his best playing, but I'm sure no one saved them, so we'll never get a proper release. You can find them on boots.There seems to be lots of live stuff from 67-68 around.The Yardbirds BBC sessions do feature some great Beck playing, and Page too. Get it.
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Post by: Rob Davies on December 14, 2001, 11:32:17 PM
Mike, one of the most terrifying experiences I have had was Ann and I trying to buy presents for our godchildren in Hamleys. Dante missed one of the inner circles of hell - it is right there on Regent Street and the devil's helpers are disguised as toy demonstrators. There was more room to move on the old East Terrace at Cardiff Arms and better tempers too, even if Wales were losing. Still, can't wait to buy for ours !!

Dave, enjoy the Patti with the rest of the lucky people going to the gig. It was great to read in TWC that last month's Jets gig was a sell-out - I'm sure that next Saturday will be too. Halfamix and Colin J, tell us all about the Point as soon as poss - hope it is a great one.

Great guitarists: how about Richard Thompson, Robbie Robertson, Paul Kossoff, Rory Gallagher, Charlie Hargrett from Blackfoot ( a perfect foil for Ricky Medlocke's showmanship) and the guy from Diamond Head.
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Post by: Fostz on December 15, 2001, 05:28:03 PM
Okay, I've got my lift to the Pattii sorted, next thing I'll need is tickets. Available at the door or need to be ordered?
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 15, 2001, 06:33:17 PM
I hope they will be available on the door as Dereck's Records will not post any out now due to postal delays.
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Post by: halfamix on December 15, 2001, 07:10:40 PM
Whew what a gig at the Point last night.
No Banana's but we did get a rip roaring version of Spunk Rock it was very loud and I found the mix (not halfamix!) a bit muddy but what do you expect in a old church with a really high ceiling, I would have said there was about 60 to 70 people there and Captain Wobbly (sorry Colin J) was in fine fettle and we sank several ciders together (hope the heads not too bad today CJ?):cool3:
:hippie:
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Post by: Colin J on December 16, 2001, 07:14:25 PM
Hello Half mix
Captain Wobbly it certainly was,i was like a flag.The main culprit of my intoxicated state was Marks home brew,i kicked off at about 1 0clock on friday and was positivly ratted by 8,certainly enjoyed another wonderful night of sounds and high jinx,these MAN guys are still as superb as ever,always a pleasure to listen to the class that they ooze,hope to see you at another MAN shindig soon,it was a pleasure to meet you again-ratted or not
    Best regards   CJ
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Post by: Colin J on December 16, 2001, 07:24:54 PM
Rob D
Sorry about lack of gig report,but im sure the explanation below will make you understand why.Can i recommend MAN as a top class soother for sleepless babys,very best wishes to you both
     Best regards CJ :wink2: :beer2:
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on December 17, 2001, 12:42:15 PM
Hi!
The Repertoire edition of MAN arrived last week. I can read that it?s remasterd by Eroc. I think he played the drums in the german krautrockband Grobschnitt. Very good sound!
Regards Peter.
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Post by: Fostz on December 17, 2001, 01:12:43 PM
If you're all in a Welsh Xmas gigging mood this week then here's a couple more gigs for you; Goatboy & Stickman at Stamps, Llanelli on Thursday. UKSubs xmas-do at Pulsars, Caerphilly on Sunday. I'll be the short good looking one with killer sideburns.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 18, 2001, 12:53:19 AM
Was looking forward to seeing Tangerine Dream on the 22nd. Shame it's clashing with the Patti. Maybe next time.
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Post by: policy of truth on December 18, 2001, 04:16:53 AM
my spy reports a certain amount of ...  snuffiling ... whot's all this then?
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Post by: CJ on December 18, 2001, 05:20:12 PM
Excellent wind-up WOOLFEY,top quality humour.:bored: :bored2: :bored3:
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 18, 2001, 07:34:27 PM
Hi CJ. Not really a wind up, (I do listen to TD) but must admit I wondered if I'd get a reply. Just a play on words because on Saturday I am genuinely missing the Tangerine Dream. Dave Young will know who I mean. If you're there on Saturday, I'll get you a drink.
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Post by: tony on December 18, 2001, 08:29:11 PM
kevin t, thanks for the info on the green ray /archers 12inchers on ebay they arrived today are you going to swansea, i'll get you a dink there   ceers  tony
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Post by: tony on December 18, 2001, 09:37:22 PM
kevin tanswell, thank you for the info regarding the green ray/archers 12" ers on ebay they arrived today!! if your going to swansea,i'll get you a drink  cheers tony.
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Post by: tony on December 18, 2001, 09:39:20 PM
ooer i dont know what happened there does that mean i'll get you two drinks .tony
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Post by: Kevin Tanswell on December 18, 2001, 10:51:41 PM
Tony - those records shipped quickly! You'll have to delay the drink (or two!) until the Spring tour, as seasonal family commitments prevent me from getting to Swansea. Have a good one.
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Post by: A crusade for king Edgar on December 18, 2001, 10:54:06 PM
Great banter RW,humour costs nothing.
Roll on saturday
Regards from across the Rubycon.
 :wink2: :beer:
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Post by: tony on December 18, 2001, 11:31:11 PM
i see the t d thing is creeping back in  bahh humbug!! :eek4:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 18, 2001, 11:54:39 PM
Do we have a meeting place/time on Saturday for :beer2:

Feeling pretty miserable as I've been laid up with the cold for the past couple of days.  Should be OK for Saturday but Lord Of The Rings tomorrow afternoon is looking at risk.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 18, 2001, 11:56:54 PM
...and just to remind you all that there's a spare ticket and/or room for the night for this Saturday's festivities
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 12:31:03 AM
If anyone has any interest in The Tygers Of Pan Tang, or you just want to see a  hilarious website mixed with some serious and interesting features, visit www.bighog@freeserve.co.uk. Written by an ex manager of TOPT who totally dislikes Man, but don't let that put you off.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 04:48:04 AM
Picked up the 2 CD Man "Pye" anthology featuring "Revelation" on 1 CD and "2 oz" on the second. It's good, after about ten years, to hear "Erotica" again since "The Early Years" CD omitted it and "Golden Hour" is stashed away in a loft somewhere. Any chance of Man adding it to their live set?
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 04:49:38 AM
Forgot to mention - the 2 CD set cost me ?5.99 - bargain!
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 07:33:43 AM
Allan, I just read your message a few pages back - I drove from Barrhead to Cardiff for the Coal Exchange gig a year last April and it took about six hours. The engine on my 954cc Citroen AX was never the same after that run!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 10:47:42 AM
For anyone interested, there's a Deke Leonard 1974 press kit up for auction on ebay.com, including a 10" x 8" B&W promo photo and an official UA biog. Worth a look, auction closes in a couple of days.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 11:02:04 AM
My car's survived a trip to Cardiff before (last Christmas) when we drove up immediately after the gig, so Swansea should be fine.  Only potential issue is the snow warning for the weekend....

....and this damned cold :yuck2:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 19, 2001, 12:29:00 PM
The car o'plane 3 wheeler has only just got back from South Wales - did about 600 miles over the weekend and now going back again. Can probably find its own way :sonar:!  ......Which meeting place? Is it worth the Pantygwyder thingy? Wetherspoons in Wind St will probably be heaving and it'll be nice going somewhere different. Or am I talking :arse: ???
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 19, 2001, 06:38:54 PM
In Message 1638 the venerable George Jones said  "Forget the Pantygwyder its not the same pub anymore the beer is expensive and there is no atmos after Wayne the old Landlord left"

Are we sure that a Panty Gwyder is a suitable thing to drink in? :help:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 19, 2001, 07:32:25 PM
George also posted that the Singleton Hotel might be a good bet. It's the right side of town anyway, and not too far from the Patti. You can find Dillwyn Street in AutoRoute easily enough.

Hopefully you lucky folks who are going will have a moderately enjoyable time.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 20, 2001, 02:31:05 AM
Flowers must have butterflies,
mountains must have streams,
rocks must have moss,
the ocean must have seaweed,
old trees must have creepers,
and people must have obsessions.

-CHANG CH'AO
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 20, 2001, 02:37:28 AM
we caught the bug over here too. sorry it's not the spanish flu? maybe next year...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 20, 2001, 02:57:10 AM
:devil:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 20, 2001, 04:25:46 AM
Green Ray and TD: not that far apart:
 :eek4:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 20, 2001, 09:55:30 PM
Any decision for Saturday :beer: ? Is the pantygwyder the place to go? We're getting to Swansea about 4 and picking up tickets then. Steve who I'm bringing has just purchased BITF on CD. I think he has more Man stuff than me now!
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Post by: tony on December 20, 2001, 10:30:03 PM
hi, i'll meet where ever,somebody who knows swansea make a choice, i'll be the guy in the T.DREAM t shirt... NOT.!!  
lets make it  a good one its being recored so we will go down in history christmas at the patti two!!
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Post by: tony on December 20, 2001, 10:31:40 PM
i mean recorded!! crop spelling again!
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 20, 2001, 11:41:23 PM
I got the impression that the Panty Girder was definitely not the place to go but we haven't yet settled on a place.

Perhaps the other place mentioned by Jules would be fine, although I don't know if the bar would be open to non-residents.  Any Swansea residents with any wise suggestions?

By the way, ticket, bed and space in car look as if they might have been taken.

And finally Lord Of the Ring rocks :rockin:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 20, 2001, 11:55:24 PM
I think the Singleton Hotel may be the place to meet. As previously mentioned, I tried to obtain phone no from Directory Enq. and was not listed. Plus if called a hotel, hope it's not hotel bar prices! (?2.60 a pint I paid last Friday!!). Is it an idea to meet there at say 6 o clock, and if ok, stay there, if not, move elsewhere? Must be places nearby.
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Post by: halfamix on December 21, 2001, 01:16:30 AM
Tony I'm wearing my TD T-Shirt as we speak but unfortunately I still can't make Saturday due to prior engagements.
Have a good one and have several ciders for me,keep an eye on Colin J if hes got any of that home brew onboard!
Have a good one boys and girls:cool3:
:hippie: :cool3:
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Post by: colin russell on December 21, 2001, 01:32:52 AM
a huge seasons greetings to you all and for those of you lucky enough to be in earshot of Man recently or in the near future you :rockin::hippie::fart::beer: hope to see a :bounce::sonar:in 2002
:peace: to you all especially Jules, Rob D (+additions), terry w, colin J and mate Mark and all others that I have bumped into

col
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Post by: Tel on December 21, 2001, 10:29:15 AM
Firstly Seaons greetings to one and all and may all your wishes and dreams for the New Year be fulfilled.

With regard to tomorrow - Alan, I should be at the Lyndale by 17-00pm so perhaps we can meet up there. Rob - I'll have my mobile so if you can't find us - give me a ring, I promise not to swear!! If you promise no more hoax phone calls.:bounce:
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Post by: Tel on December 21, 2001, 10:29:43 AM
Does Colin Russell now hold the record for the most smilies in a post?
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Post by: Rover on December 21, 2001, 10:49:21 AM
OK, It's 30 years since Do You Like It Here Now, (Are You Settling In Alright?) was released. I shall say this just once (more). What is the gobble de gook title on the back of the album. I've established its not Welsh and I've been waiting just a little while for the answer.
White Xmas StEvil? :cool5:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 11:41:37 AM
:arse:

That Friday feeling. To everyone who's now offline until the new year, merry, happy and all that peace and goodwill stuff.

Enjoy the Christmas Party, and watch out for some wizard guitar playing.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 11:46:01 AM
Rover, I thought the DYLIHN gibberish was explained in one of the TWCs a while back. I may be wrong. I'll have a look.

Anyone ever interpreted the closing section to 'All Good Clean Fun?'
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 11:53:09 AM
Thanks Tel. I still have your number but in 04 mode. Do you want to send me your new number rob@rwoolfe.freeserve.co.uk? I do have your number Allan so I may trouble you if ok? Tel, don't remember you swearing on the phone, but I almost got you didn't I? Really looking forwards to tomorrow, pity the M/cr 5 has dwindled a bit but we'll make some noise.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 12:43:27 PM
Hope all you Patti people have safe journeys and a great night.

Merry Christmas everybody!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 01:37:36 PM
Rover: Yeppp, very very white! But -20C forecast for Sunday hopefully won't last long. By the way I HAVE to be in London at an exhibition from 5th - 7th March...and one more thing, Rover, I've bought Frank Sinatra's Greatest Hits (all 45 of them) for Dad's Xmas. Sorry!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 02:04:28 PM
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
-Peter
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Post by: Rover on December 21, 2001, 02:42:12 PM
StE. Great news about the music. Hopefully it is on CD?
Shame about your visit - you'll miss the Man gigs on the following weekend.
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Post by: Paul Reilly on December 21, 2001, 02:51:02 PM
A Manny Xmas and a Micky New Year to one and all.

Enjoy Swansea
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 21, 2001, 02:57:15 PM
Courtesy of New Scientist:-

"COULD THIS be a parting shot from a disgruntled programmer, or just one of those unfortunate mistakes? With Christmas fast approaching, reader David Bradley was perusing the online catalogue of the department store
Debenhams at www.debenhams.com. He decided a decanter or a jug and some glasses would make the ideal Christmas present for his sister Sue."

Try going to www.debenhams.com & typing "jugs" in the search box...
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Post by: halfamix on December 21, 2001, 03:29:57 PM
:hippie:
To one and all, have a Hippy Crimbo and a Cool Yule :-)
I have already tucked into the Christmas stash!:cool3:
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Post by: Rob Davies on December 21, 2001, 04:00:59 PM
Have a wonderful and very merry Christmas and a happy New Year everyone. Thanks for everyobdy's good wishes; Ann is fine and we are counting down to 2 January or whenever Davies junior decides to arrive.

Have a brilliant gig at the Patti and a few pints for me, and as Anna said travel safely. Hope to see everyone very soon in the New Year.
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 21, 2001, 04:28:32 PM
Best wishes to everyone. And to Phil and Bolette of course. I was telling my fellow Manfan up here that numbers for Patti may be a bit depleted. I mentioned you, Rob D by name, saying "one lad, Rob Davies probably won't go because his wife is expecting on January 2nd". To which Steve's reply was...."so?". Best wishes Rob, and remember, the first lullaby to sing is Little Molly Baked Bean by Help Yourself. And CJ, the Tangerine Dream I'm missing tomorrow is Blackpool FC (nicknamed The Tangerines) who are playing at Gigg. Sorry!
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 21, 2001, 04:57:28 PM
Tel, 5 o'clock at The Lyndale should be fine.  Barring delays and accidents we should be there before then.  David B's also staying there

Also the ticket and bedspace are now accounted for - one of Sean's pals is coming along as well.

FYI, Sean B was on Ferguslie Park Radio this week doing a Desert Island Discs style programme and Scotch Corner got an (edited) airing.  My wife was on the previous week and Man got a mention but no plays.  Perhaps a groundswell of public opinion could turn Paisley into hotbed of support for the band!!
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Post by: Ian Johnson on December 21, 2001, 05:05:21 PM
A very merry Friday ChristmARSE to everyone!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 21, 2001, 09:29:02 PM
As Atomic Rooster said "Tomorrow Night"..... and I'm really looking forward to it.  Hope to see many of you there.  Merry Christmas to the rest of you.

Perhaps we should have a poll to decide Davies Junior's name.  
Odds on "Micky" (albeit cleaned up to a Michael Davies),  "Martin" runs a close second. I suspect "Deke" will meet with resistance, but perhaps he may be able to sneak a "Roger" in as a middle name.
Terry, John, Phil, Bob and Gareth would form the outfield.
Of course she could always be female........ :eek4:

All the best Ann and Rob.  May the New Year bring you happiness, peace and joy. :wave3:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on December 21, 2001, 10:23:35 PM
If the Davies baby is a girl, I imagine she will be called Sue, and if it's a boy I would hazard he will be called Bill.

:ewj:
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Post by: Mark Davies on December 22, 2001, 06:44:52 PM
I always had a hankering for calling my first born son Deke, but Val my eminently practical wife pointed out that Deke Davies sounded silly, so there was no more of that. We called him Robert instead, and now all his mates call him Rob - not the same Rob Davies as posts on here, just a weird coincidence.
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Post by: tony on December 22, 2001, 10:12:39 PM
due to a illnness at work i was unable to go to swansea today ,boy am i pissed off! hope thoese that did go had a great time  to every one out there in manland hope you have a great christmas
 cheers a depressed tony.
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Post by: Richard Griffiths on December 23, 2001, 06:23:44 PM
Hi Adam, i found the site.
...and another thing, i saw a very obvious cop (shiny shoes) lurking in the Coal Exchange audience the other week. Or is that just me being paranoid...
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Post by: aDaM on December 23, 2001, 07:45:37 PM
we all gotta have an obsession. but there does seem to be something about the band that attracts certain members of the constabulary. that's a good thing, right? cheers y'all...

:sonar:
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Post by: Tel on December 23, 2001, 08:13:44 PM
Safely home after a pretty crappy journey back from Swansea, mostly the M25 - where else???

Par for the course this year, a, albeit slightly, curtailed gig but this time worth every penny. It seems the only song that got dropped was Popemobile. Slight change to the set list with Ride and Conflict changing places. No Bananas and no Romain, storming version of Spunk Rock. Micky used young Sean Biggerstaff's SG for Many Are Called and Spunk Rock which was superb. I think I have some salvagable piccies which I'll try and post this week - didn't take too many.

Other highlights a great JBO with Alan H, Derek and Sean Biggerstaff and Andy (Sean - watchout for the Doberman!), Dave Bardsley, Rob Woolfe and Steve, Wren (and Chris) - if I've forgotten anybody - sorry. Will Youatt was there as we'll. Michael H in Santa Hat!! Josh Ace insulting "Uncle" Deke from the stage!! Spiv in fine form, Trevor Buton cooked, we'll done to Marks And Sparks (Josh's band - the Bass Player looked familiar)! Didn't see pugwash but then the place was packed. Final highlight arsehole at front being ejected by Security Staff (at a Man Gig!!) after throwing beer and generally being an arsehole.

Question of the night - Is Bob Richards really Harry Potter??

Now sleep!! And the Mighty Gunners have just beaten poor old Liverpool - Tel :p
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Post by: Tel on December 23, 2001, 08:15:09 PM
Oh yes - possibility of a live CD (Xmas at the Patti 2?) of the gig as we'll.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 23, 2001, 09:24:45 PM
Safely at home after a pleasant morning wandering the Gower coast.  An easier journey home than your's Tel, by the sound of it.

Well done to those long distance travellers (a YES reference?) who may still be spending doing Life on the Road. It was good to meet up.  Can't wait for the Sean Biggerstaff "Spot the Plectrum" competition at the next Man gig...

Tel, one omission was the reported presence of Malcolm Morley.  Otherwise it rocked.  What more do they need to know, other than your website address.

May you all get what you want for Chrismas, and what you need in the New Year.

Best wishes to all,  Dave.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 23, 2001, 10:35:04 PM
Safely back in Glasgow at about 0630 and stopped off at the Biggerstaff's for a coffee.  Returned home via the centre of Glasgow where I dropped Sean and a pal off heading to see Lord Of The Rings.

Journey not too band although there were a number of tailbacks through Birmingham and up towards the Manchester/Liverpool junctions off the M6.  Also stopped off at Rockfield but it was obviously too early for the local wildlife!!  We're likely to pop in on the way down next time we're down in Wales.

Throughly enjoyed last night and good to meet so many friends again, and some new ones.  Highlight for me was obviously "The Guitar" and Sean was/is absolutely over the moon.   As I suspect may be the Ace family who wanted and got a picture with Oliver Wood!!

Anyway, roll on the UK Tour  :wave3:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 23, 2001, 11:03:48 PM
Glad you had a good evening chaps!  

Sorry you couldn't make it, Tony.  That is ROTTEN luck.  Still, at least we got to see them on the Autumn Tour, eh?!

Cheers all!

Anna
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 24, 2001, 01:33:34 AM
A great weekend. the highlghts:-   1)So busy talking in the car, and  having said I've been to S Wales that many times recently, car will get there on its own, I miss M5 junction and get onto M1 before saying "I think we've gone too far" and then turn back  2) Stop off at Rockfield on the way. Place is shut. Caretaker looking bloke eyes us suspiciously asks us what we're doing . Tell him. he says we can't look round but fumbles for keys, struggles to get door to studio open, eventually does, lets us in sort of muttering all the time in a caretaker kind of way, struugles even more to get lights on, "I can never find the power switch" he says, I'm telling him not to bother, but eventually gets power on, he sits down, we talk for about 10 mins as he slagged off the pop groups of today, then I asked how busy Rockfield is to which he says not very, it may be used as a tourist attraction next year nd he slagged off pop groups again. I asked what would Kingsley Ward say about this, is he still around? "I am Kingsley Ward" came the reply. my jaw fell to the floor, we shook hands, I asked him about the paint story with Foghat and we spoke for ages - could write a book on it. Amazing stories particu;arly about Dave Edmunds, The Corrs and Cerys whatever her name is, and Cozy Powell etc etc. 3)Meeting John Webb at the gig and fortunately the Band, whom John had previously told and he reminded there that he met me at S.Johnny gig in M/cr and I was the one in the Man t-shirt, thanks John! 4) meeting the regulars, (Tel, Allan+ assorted Scots) plus new acquaintances in Dave B, Wren etc 5) even as good as meeting Kingsley W and the band, possibly even more so, at long last after all these years, meeting Sir Michael Of Heatley. As for the gig itself, Man were good, but seen them better. To be hopefully constructive criticism, curtailed set but they would have known prior, so why on stage such a long delay between songs working out which to play next? Extremely long versions of C'mon Ride and Spunk Rock which normally I would prefer, but some of the less committed Manfans wanted more songs, and in a relatively short set may have been more appropriate, and you can see people lose interest (I'm ignoring the nutter with the can), and for a Christmas "party", it would have been nice for Will Youatt and Ken Whaley to have been introduced on stage. Didn't know Malcolm M was there. Well disappointed if he was and not to see him. All in all, a great time. To me, the annual Man Christmas Party, the event is more important than the music. The music was great despite the points raised, but the event as a whole was amazing. Thank you everyone!
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 24, 2001, 11:55:27 AM
Oops..  It was Ken Whaley, not Malcolm M, who was announced as being there.  Sorry, (it had been a long day when I wrote the message)
Dave
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Post by: Rob Davies on December 24, 2001, 01:22:00 PM
Tony, bad luck on having to miss the gig. Thanks for posting summaries so quickly chaps, I am sorry that I could not join you as it sounded a great night. I am looking forward to the "DVD" version of the reviews asap !! A live album would be rather splendid too. Incidentally, there was a drunk who got kicked out of the Patti at the Jets/Chappo gig earlier this year - maybe the same guy ?

I remember from a back edition of TWC that a German fan named his son Deke. I was too cowardly to pursue Deke, Michael, Martin, Roger, Charles, Phil, Arnold etc as serious options for names with Ann as I would really like to retain all my limbs for a bit longer.

Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year everyone; I shall be offline for a while as I am out of the office until 14 January. See you all soon I hope, ideally at the Standard and Worcester Park !
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Post by: michael heatley on December 24, 2001, 02:41:03 PM
Sorry many of you couldn't make it. An occasion that exceeded the music, if you know what I mean. You epople make it all worth while. See you in 2002!
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Post by: Tel on December 24, 2001, 02:49:29 PM
Rob - The Standard is a definite and Jeff will be in attendance (sorry Dave)
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 24, 2001, 06:26:16 PM
Tel.  I don't have a problem with Jeff.
He is a gentleman, with a perfect sense of direction.  Looking forward to seeing you there.  Happy Christmas.
Dave
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on December 24, 2001, 07:27:44 PM
Merry christams to all board members, Manfans and of course the band. Pissed off not to have made it to the Patti but the bonus is that our gig on the 22nd resulted in a booking for the Wallingford beer & blues festival in June. See you all at the London gigs hopefully.
:beer::beer2:
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Post by: Colin J on December 24, 2001, 09:03:44 PM
Just like to wish you all a very happy xmas and a Tang:censored: new year.I had to miss Swansea as hammered with the flu. I am full of Benylin,Glenfiddich,night and day nurse and marks home brew and goats cheese.
  Have a good one    Regards   CJ
:wink2: :beer2: :help2: :bounce:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 24, 2001, 10:29:57 PM
Tony - sorry you weren't able to make Swansea.  I'll need to get you that :beer2: or 2 for services rendered some other time

Did anyone mention the buffet cuury we for ?6 a head  :fart:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 24, 2001, 11:11:09 PM
:-)

Meery Veery
happy happy
joy joy

:laugh4:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 25, 2001, 06:21:58 PM
http://www.urbanlegends.com/animals/drunken_birds.html
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Post by: Tel on December 27, 2001, 09:47:49 AM
Back At Work today :sad5:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 27, 2001, 07:40:08 PM
I'm not back at work until Monday 7th :laugh4:

Took up this afternoon with my second viewing of LOTR which was just as impressive as the first one....and I've still got to take my son along so that'll be another viewing at least although I suspect I'll feel the need for a few more viewings before it's run is finished.....and then it'll be the DVD!!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 29, 2001, 05:31:19 AM
The Lord - of the Rings... AWESOME MAN. This exceeds all expections of fidelity... It rocked my world. :-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 29, 2001, 06:19:51 AM
what i meant was
birdies:splat:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 30, 2001, 09:30:19 AM
Seasons greetings etc everyone.  There's a poster on the Hull City rivals site called 7171551.  A secret fan?  Come on, own up.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 30, 2001, 03:36:26 PM
...or a Mike Nesmith fan
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 31, 2001, 01:53:20 AM
She is my Q.
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 31, 2001, 09:39:18 AM
Take a look at the link on the left for a pretty impressive DVD line-up. A Happy New Year to all!
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 31, 2001, 09:41:07 AM
Oops! Lost the link somewhere!
Try www.classic-rocklegends.com
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Post by: Tel on December 31, 2001, 01:14:34 PM
Happy New Year folks - a few pics from the Patti gig posted on my site - not too many I'm afraid - the buggers would'nt get out of the way!! (link on the left - see In Action)
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Post by: Tel on December 31, 2001, 02:40:28 PM
Happiness and good Health to you all !!

Like the pics, Tel.

I wonder if baby Davies has arrived yet?  I can't wait for the day when Rob is saying he was woken at 4.50am on Xmas day!!

All the best for 2002,

Anna
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Post by: Colin J on December 31, 2001, 05:00:23 PM
Just like to wish you all a very happy new year,good health and happiness to all. Half mix are you out there? Heres to a :cool3:&:beer2:& a stratospheric new year
    Best regards    CJ
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on December 31, 2001, 08:33:05 PM
Best wishes everyone. Hope you all have a manvellous 2002. We're having a "do" at our place tonight. Just put up zillions of balloons in different colour combinations, apart from 6 orangey ones which are together in a circle. A burst of tangerine for you CJ and like minded fellows. (Probably should have done a group of purple for DP and yellow for bananas). And if 7171551 has found this site, from  David Young's prompting, welcome.
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Post by: Pete Youngman on December 31, 2001, 10:11:20 PM
Hi all. Hull City fan 7171551 here. Little did I realise when choosing a nickname for the Rivals.net site that my first message would have such a response, and nothing to do with football! First saw Man as a 13 year old in 1973 at the Leascliffe Hall in Folkestone. Badfinger were the support. At the time, me and three friends were pupils at the Duke of York's Royal Military School in Dover. There we were in school uniform with really short hair, amongst a sea of more aptly dressed punters. Awesome gig. Happy days!Thanks for the welcome, will be monitoring site closely.
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Post by: ron on December 31, 2001, 11:04:55 PM
Happy new years to all. We went to see Lord Of The Rings last night. What a gas. Can't wait for the next one...
I'm cooking up a curry tonight for a traditional American New Years Feast.

See you all on the flip side

RS :beer:
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Post by: Allan Heron on December 31, 2001, 11:31:29 PM
A good new year to one and all :beer2:

Thanks for the links, Tel.  I've put these on Sean's BB so expect a lot of pre- (and post-) pubescent hits :wink2:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 01, 2002, 05:36:42 AM
Welcome Pete Youngman. BFC + MAN  Can't beat it.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 01, 2002, 06:58:12 AM
Well, you can see what time it is that I've just crawled back to my house.

I had a wonderful experience tonight - my two young cats followed me and my family to the house we went to celebrate New Year at.  It was about two miles away and they waited for us outside the house and followed us back when we returned home.  The unconditional love that cats give (when they decide it is worthy) is one of the wonders of the world :smile3:

I do fear that our other cat (who is 18) may not be long for this world and appears to have gone blind in one eye.  He has been getting noticably slower over the last number of months and I feear for my visit to the vet later on this week.  He's a wonderful old chap, and I will miss him terribly, as I do his companion who died in the summer of 1999 (when I was on holiday - and I've never felt so guilty in my life!!)

Gos, this is awful maudlin - must be the drink!!

A wonderful 2002 to all my friends in the Manband community.

PS Another Hull fan who saw the band on the Slow Motion tour - what is it with Hull fans and Slow Motion  :-)
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 01, 2002, 06:59:39 AM
Gos should, of course, be God!

It is the drink :beer2:
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Post by: tony on January 01, 2002, 03:00:57 PM
first of all a very happy new year to everone lets hope its a better one!
secondly, has anyone got a copy of dave greenslade cactus choir to either copy or sell, or does any one know any where its for salethanks   tony
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Post by: Adam on January 01, 2002, 06:57:37 PM
Best Wishes all for the New Year. In the State of Mass. the daily number was 2002 yesterday! Thats got to mean good luck or something. Actually glad to see 2001 go, we've had better.  :-(

I'm hoping there are more MAN releases this year and plenty of great gigs. And just a little common sence amongst Nations wouldn't be too much to ask, would it?

So, how many Euros does a liter of beer cost?  :smile3:
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on January 01, 2002, 08:48:27 PM
Hi Allan - our cat is partially blind in one eye, what is it with man fans and cats blind in one eye? And he follows us when we walk somewhere from the house, but gets to the same spot about 200 yards away and walks back.
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Post by: halfamix on January 02, 2002, 05:29:10 PM
Whew :cool3:
Just surfaced after a week of debauchary.
Think I've pickled the liver!
tony, that Dave Greenslade LP "Cactus Choir" is the most difficult of his LP's to get a hold of,I'll keep an eye out for one for you? (Its not on CD) I can do you a tape if you like?
If you see a copy make sure it still has the inner with all the recording details etc.
I know I'm a bit late but Happy New year to one and all, may it be a "Tyranny of Beauty" (Hi CJ!)
:hippie:
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Post by: tony on January 02, 2002, 07:12:39 PM
thanks halfamix yes i would like a tape can you email me , so i can get you address cheers tony
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Post by: tony on January 02, 2002, 07:16:19 PM
thanks halfamix i would like a tape please can you email me please .
cheers  tony.
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Post by: Phil Lawton on January 03, 2002, 06:57:58 PM
Does anyone know the name of the bass player Deke used (and, probably, abused) on the tour he did as support (?) to Ian Dury, circa 1978? I know he drank bitter, because I bought him, Deke and Terry Williams a pint (one each, not between them). This was the gig ("Barbarella's" in Birmingham) I went to with a plectrum in my pocket, just in case Deke had a bass playing emergency. I remember the (mostly) punk crowd just standing staring in a sort of "what's this bloke about, then?" type-way and then cheering as he did a typically Deke song with the lines "Gonna climb in my Spitfire/Gonna kill me some Nazis". This eemed to go down quite well. Ian Dury was average.
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Post by: Tel on January 03, 2002, 07:46:19 PM
Phil - Depending when in 1978 and according to Martin Mycocks Mannerisms it could have been Lincoln Carr! That seems to tie up with Terry being in Iceberg - any help?
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Post by: Tel on January 03, 2002, 10:28:16 PM
Aha.  One-eyed cat he say:  "Support Hull City and not Bury and you will have a very happy 2002".
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 03, 2002, 11:28:48 PM
I don't think Terry was in Iceberg in 1978 although Lincoln Carr was the bass player.  The other musicians at this time were Anthony Stone (drums)and Howard Hughes (piano).  I've got this from an audience recording of a gig at the Roundhouse on 26/2/1978 which I imagine would have been one of the Dury support gigs.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 04, 2002, 03:35:37 AM
That's right. Iceberg in '78 was Lincoln, Anthony, and H.Hughes. The latter was in fact Malcolm in one of his shy phases. I misssed seeing this band, and Micky with Tweke by a couple of weeks. Did see MJB several times that summer.

When I was over in '78, Deke told me he was going to have to break up the band,and was not looking forward to it. Terry did record with Deke, Martin, and Malc in '78. I sat in on a session for one of the versions of "Oh!". That was at Wessex, a fabulous studio in a church. I missed an Edmunds produced session because of missed messages that same summer. :kilroy:
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Post by: Tel on January 04, 2002, 05:37:52 AM
Ahh  thats why I said depending!!Mannerisms gives Terry as being in Iceberg for the first couple of months in 1978 with the line up changing in February.
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Post by: Tel on January 04, 2002, 01:12:30 PM
It's Friday so... Happy Nude Rear all :arse:
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Post by: Tel on January 04, 2002, 04:05:46 PM
two more man live dates-wednesday march 6th,limelight club,crewe and thursday march 7th,the leopard,doncaster.mail me for further info.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 04, 2002, 04:44:13 PM
Oooh Doncaster. That's in Yorkshire that is!
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Post by: Tel on January 04, 2002, 06:26:36 PM
Man in 5 gigs in a row shock!!
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Post by: Ian Johnson on January 05, 2002, 03:38:42 AM
Shock Horror!

I might be able to do the 7th 8th and 10th....almost an overdose!
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Post by: shock on January 05, 2002, 04:01:33 AM
horror:

the Manboard has finally out hit the Archive!  :laugh4:
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Post by: Santanite on January 05, 2002, 06:37:12 AM
Watch out for the Magic Lantern, lads... :sonar:
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Post by: Phil Lawton on January 07, 2002, 02:48:34 PM
The gig I referred to would have been late 1977. Ian Dury was touring to support "New Boots And Panties", which is about right. 'Twas definitely Terry W on drums - the bass player was a tall black guy. I'd only gone to see Iceberg, having never heard of Ian Dury at the time and came away from the gig thinking "God, they (The Blockheads) were bad." I can now spout authoritatively about seeing this first incarnation (with a bag of Werthers Originals at hand) whenever someone mentions the Blockheads. I could also point to TW during Dire Straits' set at Live Aid and say "I've met him!" Sad, sad git, I've become.
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Post by: George Jones on January 07, 2002, 04:12:16 PM
Greetings all Manfans,Wild Animals and Space beings. Those of you who were there I hope you enjoyed the patti gig. The highlight of the night for me was seeing Josh play and the guitar that allan herons son let dad use it was a beautiful looking instrument. What about the flying can of larger!!!. Booked work off to go to these five Man gigs and then the mighty Deep Purple in feb and Travis on my Birthday in March. by the way were Morley and Whaley at the gig I saw Will but not the other two. Clive John didnt turn up i saw him in the panty and he seemed well up for it, probably fell into a black hole i guess it happens after years of tugging on herbal ciggarettes. Bob played a blinder and the intro two spunkrock was the best ive seen for a while, very off the wall!!!!. Saw Stuart Halliday in the Australian Bar in Swansea I dont Know What Luner Module he was on but he had my mates in tears!!!. P.S. Could anyone tell me about an american band called Kansas I heard one song "Carry on wayward son" which was quite good.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 07, 2002, 04:27:33 PM
Wasn't my son but that of my longest standing pal who was the owner of the guitar.  It's not been cleaned since the concert and still shows a stain where some of the aforementioned lager landed!

My son's only 11 but reckon that with a suitable venue might be a candidate for the 2002 Christmas party.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 07, 2002, 05:15:11 PM
George, Kansas briefly featured Steve Morse on guitar. I don't think he stayed long, but got a taste for band playing again. I keep meaning to buy one of their albums, but can never decide which one.

Lincoln Carr, the Iceberg bassist from the Blockheads tour, is tall and dark (some might say swarthy) rather than tall and black. I think I've got a couple of pictures somewhere, I'll dig 'em out and post one. Linc was also in Memphis Bend (Memfis Bend?) with Micky Gee and Tommy Riley.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 07, 2002, 05:17:00 PM
Check out the website for Kansas - I've not really heard too much of them although they do fall into the Classic Rock category - near the AOR end, I think.  I was also going to add that Mr Gough would be salivating about Steve Morse again, but he beat me to it!!!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 07, 2002, 05:18:40 PM
I wonder if our "tall and black" bass player might have been John McKenzie?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 07, 2002, 05:21:54 PM
Johnners, I reckon I'll do the 7th and 10th. Possibly the 9th if I can swing it, but that all depends which way the wind is blowing.

Anyone else got any plans to attend?

Have the St Evil 2002 travel plans been formalised yet?
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 07, 2002, 05:27:20 PM
Are the five days the UK tour?  Crewe and Doncaster might be manageable with some active meeting arranging and/or time off work.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 07, 2002, 05:30:27 PM
There are more dates coming. The Brook in Southampton has been mentioned, and The New Cavern in Liverpool, but I don't have any details on those. I'm pretty sure the intention is to fill the month as far as possible, but it may be a while before that happens. I'd hazard a guess that a two week tour, possibly three, is likely.

I haven't heard of anything outside England yet though (unless you count Yorkshire as all proper thinking folk do).
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 07, 2002, 06:38:19 PM
Not entirely formalised yet (but the initial manipulations have been successful). The 8th and possibly 9th is the most likely at the moment.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 07, 2002, 10:54:00 PM
Just asked missus RW if there's any plans for my 44th b'day on 7 March. "Not yet" came the reply. "Good" I said, "I'm off to Doncaster". :eek4:is a pretty good impression of the missus's face at this very moment.
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Post by: tony on January 08, 2002, 12:12:56 AM
just asked the wife if i could go to donington and the the london gigs and she said yes at least i wont have to listen to man band cds for four nights,so if all goes well im going on my own mini tour!!  mini me on tour!! any one got any news on a date for the flying aces cd  undrugged or dekes unfinished buisiness yet    tony
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Post by: tony on January 08, 2002, 12:14:46 AM
er i meant doncaster ...where the hell is donington any way   a tired tony.
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Post by: Adam on January 08, 2002, 02:29:34 AM
George, over here in the USA Kansas are considered among the first of the mega rock bands of the late 70's. (Boston, Frampton, Arosmith, Starship) Stadium Rock, it was called, 'cuz they filled 'em up with this commercialized rock sound. It's been called corporate rock for that reason. Nevertheless, they did a couple of very classic tunes. The other chart buster would be Dust In The Wind. Can't say they've held up all that well, really, imho. Not like...
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Post by: Adam on January 08, 2002, 03:59:18 AM
In the CD player this week:
Joe Walsh: Rocky Mountain High
Beck: Mutations, Odelay, Mellow Gold
Caravan: ITLOGAP, FGWGPITN. "Winter Wine" "Nine Feet Underground"
Yes: Fragile
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Post by: adam on January 08, 2002, 04:25:51 AM
ok, Allan, it's a way that was high!
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Post by: Beckish Derelict on January 08, 2002, 05:30:59 AM
I drop my anchor in the dead of night,
I pack my suitcase and throw it away...
I fell asleep in the funeral fire,
I gave my clothes to the policeman...
Blowback, derelict wind, lay my soul,
In the fall of the end...
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Post by: Phil Lawton on January 08, 2002, 11:59:57 AM
Nope, not John McKenzie (who later recorded/toured with the Eurythmics and who is one excellent bassist) - Lincoln Carr seems to be the best bet. Thanks for all of the info.

Here's another one for you to chew and spit back at me - whatever happened to Alkatraz? I have "doing A Moonlight" and saw them when they supported Man what I think was the "All's Well..." tour, but they seem to have died away immediately afterwards.
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Post by: George Jones on January 08, 2002, 05:53:33 PM
Thanks for the Kansas info I didnt know Mr Morse played with the band. Did anyone see Slash and Ron Wood on Jools Holland?????
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Post by: George Jones on January 08, 2002, 05:57:27 PM
Sorry Allan My mistake. Things can get confusing backstage sometimes!!
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Post by: Tim W on January 08, 2002, 08:08:10 PM
See link to the left for a sighting of Alkatraz.
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Post by: Tim W on January 08, 2002, 08:10:03 PM
Tony - Flying Aces CD is available to pre - order on Amazon now, with a release date of Jan 28th.
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Post by: Rover on January 09, 2002, 09:10:29 AM
Michael H. Enjoy the match last night? Lets see how high they can kick McSporran at Craven Cottage!
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Post by: George on January 09, 2002, 02:20:04 PM
George - Steve Morse was with a later version (possibly even a reformed version) of Kansas and didn't play on the original Carry On Wayward Sun. I have a copy on 45 somewhere which is probably a cut down version of the album track. I remember seeing them do this on either Whistle Test or the like and the live performance was a little dissapointing, to say the least.

In fact after Morse was in Kansas (86/87) he quit music for two years being dragged out again by Lynrd Skynrd in 1989.  

There's a Morse Disc/biography somewhere on the Deep Purple site.
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Post by: the laughing gnome on January 09, 2002, 07:24:12 PM
In American, Kansas is one of those bands we cite as the problem with the 70's and 80's. Gawdawful. Next thing you know you'll be touting the charms of Starcastle(New Jersey) :yuck2:
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Post by: Fostz on January 09, 2002, 11:37:04 PM
Pop groups (singing dancers) are not bands - bands use instruments and create MUSIC - if you agree www.gobb.org.uk

If you have signed already, thank you. We have rattled cages and are now getting press coverage plus Bob Harris has now put his name to the campaign.

This is all aimed at getting both respect and recognition for all of countries real bands.

There is no harm only good to come of it and with the current attention its also a good way to get your band a little coverage.
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Post by: Fostz on January 09, 2002, 11:41:05 PM
The inspiration behind the campain;

Best Band 2001
Top ten;

1 Westlife    
2 Steps    
3 S Club 7    
4 A1    
5 Destinys Child    
6 Five    
7 Blue  
8 The Backstreet Boys    
9 Hear'Say    
10 Atomic Kitten

Only one decent band there and no mention of Man.
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Post by: Adam on January 10, 2002, 04:44:43 AM
I tout not, gnome. I was just being polite. I hate commercial crap. Most of that AOR stuff from the late 70's was just the precursor of today's manufactured pop groups (that could never be considered bands or even musicians). It's all part of the broader globalization, homogenization and subjugation of the world that the multinational death star corporations are performing (it's all for the shareholders, mind you). If you buy their things, eat their food, drink their beer, buy their cars, listen to that bubblegum, watch their TV, vote their politicians, read their papers (The Sun, hello) you are not doing any of us any favors. Boycott the bast*rds is what I say. There are alternatives. Fight the power. Now that makes me a sad, sad git, dunnit?

:hippie:
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Post by: Rover on January 10, 2002, 10:29:06 AM
Does anyone really care if music is created individually, corporately, kibbutzly, guitarly, kazooly acapolcally, bandly or grouply. Your cup of tea may be someone elses bromide. Respect for all kinds of music and each to his own (except TD).
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Post by: michael heatley on January 10, 2002, 12:04:08 PM
Fair play to McSporran, Rover - with a name like that, he deserves to make his mark. Mind you, when you play against QPR he will find himself marked by one Danny Shittu (which is how Fulham played on Tuesday)!
See you @ the Cottage?
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Post by: cumin trip on January 10, 2002, 01:24:40 PM
this boards for music, not cottagers!
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Post by: Rover on January 10, 2002, 02:35:52 PM
MH Haven't been to the cottage since the early eighties (and a prior engagement will prevent a return next week). Al Fayed seems to have brought the crowds back since then. Have you mentioned the Manband to him?
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Post by: Edgars crazy moustache on January 10, 2002, 06:08:40 PM
Worlds top five bands of all time
1,Jive bunny&the master mixers
2,Milli vannilli
3,The brighouse&rastrick band
4,St winnifrids school choir
5,Elastic
Not a mention of the Great electronic maestros,Sickening.
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Post by: Tim Whitcombe on January 10, 2002, 08:03:51 PM
The only game that matters this weekend will see a team returning to the West Coast - cold, miserable, beaten and with the sound of Todd Rundgren resounding in their ears.
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Post by: Owen on January 11, 2002, 01:02:31 AM
Westlife, Spice Tarts, Hear'Gay, S Club 12, you name it. All shite. Like Man United and McDonald's.
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Post by: Ronald MacDonald on January 11, 2002, 01:56:17 AM
Oh I don't know,MacNuggets ain't bad...
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Post by: Robber McCancer on January 11, 2002, 02:33:55 AM
ah, but where do they get the chicken lips there're made of?
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Post by: Rover on January 11, 2002, 10:18:18 AM
That's right Ronald. One man's burger is anothers bromide.
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Post by: Fostz on January 11, 2002, 11:12:36 AM
but Chwarae Teg now, boys. I don't want anyone to think that I was classing S Club 7 with the rest of them and I don't want to hear anyone else say a bad word against them. S Club are a top quality pop band in the style of the Monkees, Ant & Dec and the Blue Oyster Cult.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 11, 2002, 11:50:21 AM
I see that there's some additional dates appeared on the official site.

Count me in for Blackpool with the Yorkshire/Lancashire dates a possibility with appropriate meetings in the area

:wink2:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 11, 2002, 01:07:14 PM
I'm with Rover - music either tickles your fancy or it doesn't.  The Monkees are an excellent examples - they made some great music, some of which they only sang on, but were undoubtedly as manufactured as the current crop of boy/girl bands; but this doesn't make me enjoy the music put out under their name any more or less.

Similarly, I think Back For Good is a song of considerable quality.  The fact that it's by a boy band doesn't change that in any way.

Any OMD fans out there - does Andy McCluskey's role in Atomic Kitten make you like/dislike them any more?  Does it make you listen to the OMD records with any more/less respect than it has in the past.  Of course it shouldn't

And by the way, I'm a BK man meself!!
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Post by: michael heatley on January 11, 2002, 02:16:13 PM
Ref posting 1830. I'd like to see Man on the Harrods label, Rover, but it would never happen. Put Deke and Fayed in the same room, and see how long it takes for WWIII to break out!

PS Prediction for Tuesday: Fulham to win 4-2 after going 1-0 down. Barry Hayles ko's a Wanderer and gets sent off.
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Post by: Mark Davies on January 11, 2002, 02:37:50 PM
Prediction: Deke to win by 2 falls and a knockout over Al-Fayed in the 3rd round.
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Post by: Rover on January 11, 2002, 03:07:17 PM
MH. Cash for gigs? Yes unlikely.

My prediction: Barry Hayles gets sent off and the Wanderers win in a penalty shoot out where no-one misses.
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Post by: Herb on January 11, 2002, 09:07:59 PM
Two questions:
1. Any news of a Neutrons re-release (anything)
2. Has a properly mastered version of Nektar's Remember The Future been let out?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 12, 2002, 12:02:20 PM
1. Neutrons - there's a bootleg release of Black Hole Star out somewhere in Europe. It's been mentioned in previous posts. Nothing official unfortunately.
2. Nektar - The proper mix of RTF is due out in February or March this year I think. Don't hold your breath though, it's been due out before too.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 12, 2002, 08:23:46 PM
Any word from Rob Davies on new arrivals yet ?

In the CD player this week: Bad Company - 10 from 6 (best of compilation), Neil Young - After The Goldrush, The Jam - In The City.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 12, 2002, 09:21:33 PM
Can anyone remember the couple of acoustic tracks Deke and Mickey played on cica 1975 tour.Seem to think it was 'Here come the sun and an Everly Bros song. Any ideas?.
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Post by: tony on January 12, 2002, 09:56:30 PM
this week on the turntable!
elbow,asleep in the back
archers,  sighs whales and trees
roy orbison  black and white night
ronnie lane live in austin
tom waits used songs
hey anna see you at the flower pot in march!!
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Post by: ph.Ste on January 12, 2002, 11:02:04 PM
P.ets: Because and Sweet Dream Baby
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Post by: Tim W on January 13, 2002, 02:53:20 PM
Included on the Dates listing are venue related sites. The only one missing is for the Witchwood, which is odd since they used to have a pretty good site, but it's apparently gone to the great bitbucket in the sky. The Fibbers site is very plush - good to see they still have the espresso machine.

Since Dave Greenslade was mentioned here recently, it's worth noting he is shortly visiting some of the same venues with his band.
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Post by: Tim W on January 13, 2002, 02:55:01 PM
URL got truncated... should be


http://www.ringsoft.demon.co.uk/man/dates/index.htm
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Post by: Tim W on January 13, 2002, 05:39:05 PM
I'll definitely be there, Tony.  It's a Friday night gig, isn't it?  Splendid.

My stereo has been in Super Furry overdrive recently.  If anyone hears of any SFA tour dates, let me know.  Thanks.
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Post by: tony on January 13, 2002, 08:42:10 PM
hey halfamix thanks for the tape, your cd is on the way thanks again
tony
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Post by: Herb on January 13, 2002, 09:30:37 PM
Thanks for the info on Neutrons / Nektar Jules.
No doubt I will ask the same question yet again later in the year.
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Post by: tony on January 13, 2002, 10:23:52 PM
hay anna SPLENDID!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 14, 2002, 03:10:22 PM
Visitors to Martin's site may be experiencing some problems loading the front page and news page.

There's a slight problem with the server (it would appear to have run out of disc space), but things should be sorted out quite soon. Provided someone down at the Uni answers the phone that is.....
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Post by: George Jones on January 14, 2002, 03:39:42 PM
Deke Vs Fayed it would make the WWF look like a picnic. This week I ave been grooving 2 Guns n Roses, Malmsteen,Beach boys and Man ( Slow Motion ). Terry williams had a suprise birthday party on Saturday he also told me a very funny story about the time Phil Ryan Threw a Wobbler on Cozy Powell!!!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 14, 2002, 05:16:14 PM
This weekend's listening included Ian Hunter (Rant), Ian McNabb (same), Neil Young (CDR's of Trans and Bluenotes tours), REM (Unplgged 2001), Mercury Rev (All Is Dream).

Also picked up a live album by Widespread Panic as I'd heard a lot of good things from the Classic Rock fraternity.  It's a double set that I picked up for ?4.99 in a sale in Tower Records!!!!  Listened to it once, but it seems to be impressive stuff.

Oh yes, and I saw Lord Of The Rings for the fourth time :sad3:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 14, 2002, 05:33:44 PM
Gosh, I'm not the only one on here who listens to Mercury Rev then?  

Bet I'm the only one who, after weeks of looking forward to it, managed to :bored3: during LOTR.  I didn't snore though.

Anyone heard from Rob Davies yet?
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 14, 2002, 05:58:19 PM
Indeed not, Anna - their gig in Glasgow at the Barrowlands was one of the highlights of 2001 for me.  Just ahead of Man at the Kite Club in Blackpool, and trailing Ryan Adams' incredible 3 hour plus set at the QMU - now if anyone gets hold of a CDR of this, I'll be most anxious to get a hold of this show.
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Post by: halfamix on January 14, 2002, 06:10:54 PM
Hi Gang
Talking of snoring Anna, I went to see Peter Hammill at The Barbican in London with my mate Mark who some of you met at CIA gig. Fueled with about 10pts of Cider he dozed of during one of Hammills quiet numbers and started to snore!!! Missed coach back home as well and had to sleep under a tree opposite Buckingham palace. (those were the days)not.
........
For my listening pleasure
Vulgar Unicorn-"Jet Set Radio"
Kevin Ayres-"Greatest Hits" mmmh
Magma-"Udu Wudu"
Deke-"Iceberg"
Flying Saucer Attack-"Distance"
:cool3: :hippie:
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Post by: halfamix on January 14, 2002, 06:13:26 PM
Heres that missing F should read dozed off!!!
And me with English Language 'o'level
:help2:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 14, 2002, 06:31:32 PM
Doesn't a "Greatest Hits" for Kevin Ayers stretch the definition somewhat?

Always loved Stranger In Blue Suede Shoes (got an MP3 of this thanks to Napster!) but haven't heard too much else of the man.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 14, 2002, 07:00:15 PM
not quite SFA tour dates but they are playing an acoustic set at the coal exchange for afgan plight night. More details from the link to my right (your left). My mate, Kev's band, Flood, are also playing.
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Post by: Colin J on January 14, 2002, 09:44:15 PM
Hello Half mix
What a great story that is.I have been in some intoxicated states at gigs,but the best one was Metallica at Cardiff CIA
in october 96 started guzzling about 12 in day fell asleep half way through gig lost my mates and ended up with a Hefty ?25 taxi ride home.Can you believe it,falling asleep in a metallica gig if it wasent for the help of a young lady,i would have never woken up,totally blitz.
 The next gis is Stereolab at end of month,yet more unconsciousness.
         Best regards    CJ
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Post by: Colin J on January 14, 2002, 09:44:50 PM
Hello Half mix
What a great story that is.I have been in some intoxicated states at gigs,but the best one was Metallica at Cardiff CIA
in october 96 started guzzling about 12 in day fell asleep half way through gig lost my mates and ended up with a Hefty ?25 taxi ride home.Can you believe it,falling asleep in a metallica gig if it wasent for the help of a young lady,i would have never woken up,totally blitz.
 The next gis is Stereolab at end of month,yet more unconsciousness.
         Best regards    CJ
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Post by: CJ on January 14, 2002, 09:46:50 PM
Damn it,i meant GIG not GIS.:help2: :beer2:
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Post by: halfamix on January 14, 2002, 11:32:33 PM
Allan yes I totally agree thats why I mmmhed after "Greatest Hits" a little big for its boots in a claim like that I think! I've got a copy of Kevin doin "Blue Suade Shoes" with Eno,Robert Wyatt,Mike Oldfield,Nico etc etc on the "June 1st 1974"LP which is very good.
Saw him a few years ago playing with "The Wizzards of Twiddly"
Good to see you are still there out in the ether CJ hope to see ya soon but not sure if I can get to any of these gigs as they are all over 100 miles away at the mo :eek2:
:cool3:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 15, 2002, 04:17:53 AM
Alex Morgan Davies arrived (8lbs 15ozs without a hole in the middle) on Tuesday January 8th. He has been a little unwell with a chest infection, but is now home with his Mum (Ann) and Dad (Rob) who are trying to remember what sleep used to be like.

Congratulations to all three. Rob expects to be back online in a day or two.

8th Jan? Shares a birthday with Elvis Presley, Steven Hawking, Shirley Bassey then.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 15, 2002, 11:01:34 AM
Congratulations to Rob Davies.  Morgan Alex Davies (MAD)is, however, clearly a better choice or even better Morgan Alex Neil Davies (MAN D)
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 15, 2002, 11:07:10 AM
We all remember the earlier discussions about Holmer Green ladies. Fame at last, thus spake Rover in a missive sent out yesterday. He would want you to know - see the link to the left (Jules, please arrange a link from the Manoraks page).
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 15, 2002, 11:10:08 AM
Can I add my congratulations to Rob and Ann - and to baby Alex.

I suspect a few hours kip will soon be getting charged to some unsuspecting clients!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 15, 2002, 11:11:31 AM
...and you should also read the shocking  match report at the link provided between the Ladies of Holmer Green and Rover's Oxford Reserves.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 15, 2002, 11:30:15 AM
Congratulations Rob & Ann, welcome to Alex. The first 25 years are the hardest!!
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Post by: Tel on January 15, 2002, 02:55:26 PM
And then it goes downhill. Congrats Rob. A baby head wetting ceremony on the 2nd Feb at the Royal Toilet Walthamstowe eh??
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on January 15, 2002, 03:28:31 PM
Great news from (and for) Ann & Rob.  Very best wishes to all from Sal and me.
My son would also wish Alex the very best of luck - he knows what its like being fathered by a Manfan...
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on January 15, 2002, 03:43:39 PM
congratulations to Rob Ann and Alex and empathise with Tels idea of a head whetting sesh at the Royal Standard soon.

When you are back on line Rob we could work out travel arrangements to the gigs coming up.

I discovered that by buying my kids music that I wanted to hear, they wanted to play it and increases your hand in the bargaining stakes.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 15, 2002, 03:52:21 PM
I don't usually pass on news like this, but sometimes we need to pause and remember what life's all about.

There has been a great loss recently in the entertainment world.

The wonderful Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote the "Hokey Cokey", died last week at 83.

The most traumatic part for the family was getting him in the coffin.

They put his left leg in....... and things just started to go downhill from there...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 15, 2002, 04:14:57 PM
Martin's site is now back up and running sweetly again.

The March tour should co-incide with the release of 'Undrugged', so will be called 'The Undrugged Tour' (who thinks these things up?). You might expect to hear some of the songs from the CD in the setlist, which would be interesting.

Don't forget that 'Turban Town' by The Urban Turbans, and 'Seashells' by The Flying Aces are due out at the end of this month.

I'm told that Deke has been on the telly, this time in a 'Never Mind The Buzzcocks' style quiz (broadcast date and channel not known yet, but the show's been recorded). More about that when the story gets straightened out.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 15, 2002, 04:16:20 PM
Allan, on news like that you definitely should have passed. :rolleyes:
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Post by: halfamix on January 15, 2002, 06:49:21 PM
As the immortal Peter Hammill would say
"Bless the Baby Born Today" or last week
Congratulations and Celabrations...oh no Cliff Richard....(Deke will kill me)
Seriousely All the best to one and all and I don't envy all those nappies and funny smells that come from baby!!:wave3:
:bounce:
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Post by: Wren on January 15, 2002, 08:36:38 PM
Congrats to Rob & Ann on your new arrival - best wishes from Chris & self.

Do Manoraks come in extra small size?
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Post by: Colin J on January 15, 2002, 09:08:52 PM
Great to hear everythings a ok Mr davies
Now for those sleepness nights.All the best to you and your family,and what a smashing welsh name Congrats&best regards
     CJ  :wink2: :beer2:
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on January 15, 2002, 09:13:51 PM
And many congratulation from the Woolfe family. You know, when there was a little speculation on the name, I was going to post that I wonder if a Welsh name will be in there. Wish I would have done now. But Morgan, not only a fine Welsh name, but one of the most beautiful hand crafted motor cars. A great name. And Rob, a great lullaby is Molly Baked Bean by The Helps.
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Post by: Ian Johnson on January 16, 2002, 05:29:36 PM
Congrats the Davi clan
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Post by: agast on January 17, 2002, 02:03:04 AM
OMG. What happened to the hit counters?
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on January 17, 2002, 10:09:25 AM
Having a nose around the Gentle Giant website just now I came across the news that John Weathers has recently had to give up playing the drums due to arthritis in his foot.I don't remember seeing anything about this on here so maybe it's passed us all by or maybe not.
      Anyway it's a terribly sad thing for Pugwash and I'd like to wish him the best of luck.
      BTW,at the risk of provoking howls of derision,who exactly are the Silverbirds?
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Post by: Rover on January 17, 2002, 10:47:49 AM
Congratulations Rob D.
Agast, I believe that Microsoft have upgraded the year dot.
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Post by: Mark Davies on January 17, 2002, 11:44:03 AM
I think that the John Weathers foot story was published in Welsh Connection.
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Post by: Tel on January 17, 2002, 12:01:42 PM
Jules - Has the time for the message postings gone awry or am I living in some sort of temperal disturbance??
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 17, 2002, 01:10:44 PM
Don't know if there's any West of Scotland Pallas fans but if there are I have a spare ticket for their gig in Bishopton on Friday 18th (tomorrow) - contact me off-line if interested
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Post by: Rob Davies on January 17, 2002, 06:57:14 PM
Belated happy New Year to everyone. It is good to be alive albeit without any prospect of sleep for the next decade courtesy of our beautiful baby boy who at the moment is noisier than a jet engine ( maybe a wind tunnel would be a more appropriate analogy just now!) . Thanks everybody so much for your kind messages. Alex is much improved from his chest infection and Ann and I are bleary eyed and much relieved, as well as delighted with him.

I think I shall have to miss the Standard gig in February, but the weekend of London gigs in March may be more realistic. I shall be aiming for Worcester Park and the Torrington and will be driving so Colin R you will be very welcome to a lift, likewise any other SW18 based Manfans.

Has anyone seen the C4 produced film Very Annie Mary starring Jonathan Pryce ? Martin Ace has a non-speaking role as a member of a chapel brass band and Micky appears very briefly in a scene too - I pointed these appearances out to Ann as we were watching the film shortly before we left for the hospital and I think she appreciated it !
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 17, 2002, 07:11:49 PM
Time and space in relative dimensions.

The website has been moved to another server in a different timezone. We now reside in Pennsylvania. It's all been done very neatly by the host service provider (we're still with Hostroute who I'm very happy with) but the server farm they were using previously decided to simply close down.

An urgent up sticks and cross-country hike was necessary, which has now been completed. I had some difficulty connecting earlier in the day, but all seems well enough now.  

I'll reset the time differential, and the access counters when I get a spare moment. If anyone has a spare moment then please send it to me, I could use as many as I get.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 17, 2002, 07:16:54 PM
Undrugged Tour

I have a problem. I think I can get to all of the gigs except Crewe from a logistical perspective. I now need to open negotiations on those that I can get to from a political perspective.

I reckon the Torrington is a must.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on January 17, 2002, 07:49:52 PM
I shall be Undrugged for the Standard and Torrington gigs (i.e. driving) but will make up for it at Worcester Park.:beer2:

Davies - You need to get out more, do you need a lift to/from the Standard?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 17, 2002, 07:53:52 PM
Wyn, the Silverbirds are Martin, Micky and Merthyr Tom (although other personnel have also been involved from time to time). Wren Bull has supplied a fine review of a recent(ish) Silverbirds gig at the Dylan Thomas Centre last November. You'll find it via the link below.

http://www.manband-archive.com/concerts/20011109.html

There are some photos and a setlist too, so you'll know what you're getting.

(Note to self: make url field l-o-n-g-e-r)
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Post by: Colin J on January 18, 2002, 11:15:09 AM
A big friday:arse: to everyone.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 18, 2002, 02:31:33 PM
For those interested, the first Caravan album is reissued (with both mono/stereo versions) along with a live album from Fairfield Hall, Croydon (near Beanos!!) from 1974

:wink2:

For those not interested, they're still getting released!
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Post by: Rover on January 18, 2002, 02:48:40 PM
I recently heard a recording the Road Tales radio broadcast (thanks Ss. Evil v Xmas 2001). Truly excellent. For those who didn't hear the broadcast it is a colection of 'true' stories narrated by Deke (great speaking voice) which were mostly extracts from his second book. The stories were interspersed with some excellent music. I would guess it would be difficult to release a CD of this because of the copyright on the songs chosen. What does the panel think, however, about a collection of stories from Deke's first book (narrated by the great man) interspersed with related songs from their own catalogue or live recordings.
What do you think guys and galls? And what about a working title?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 18, 2002, 03:17:14 PM
Good idea. I vote for 'Toad Rails'
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Post by: Mark Davies on January 18, 2002, 05:23:18 PM
'Frog Sleepers'
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 18, 2002, 05:55:44 PM
'Amphibian Fishplates'
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 18, 2002, 07:04:23 PM
"Newt Chip-paper"
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 18, 2002, 08:01:55 PM
"Life on the Road"
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Post by: tony on January 18, 2002, 08:27:54 PM
hi everyone have a great weekend,for those interested this weeks listenings have been,
can,  spoon sampler
john hammond,  wicked grin
tim buckley  morning glory anthology
lou reed  rock and roll animal
the newport folk festival 1959-68
 and a good ole blow out with one of the greatest live albums... ever,
thin lizzy live and dangerous.
any thoughts on your greatest live albums......ever    
cheers  tony.
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Post by: Rob Davies on January 18, 2002, 08:39:03 PM
"No sleep 'til Llansamlet"/ " To sleep perchance the Dream" (which are in no way influenced by my current state). Dave, the Standard falls more into Jules' politically and domestically feasible category rather than the logistically feasible one, but thanks for the offer ! Good weekend all.
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Post by: Ste.p on January 18, 2002, 10:39:50 PM
Tony,Greatest live albums how about
Maximum Darkness.   Man
Live At The Fillmore. The Allman Bros
Live At Leeds.  John Martyn
Live In Europe. Rory Gallagher
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Post by: tony on January 18, 2002, 11:59:26 PM
yes i can go for that except the allmans i must admit to never hearing any of their stuff ,are they sort of countryish type band ? zappa live in new york is also a great live album
cheers tony
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Post by: andy on January 19, 2002, 12:14:04 AM
me long standing manfan with problem me not had before. encouraged interested mate with much gig experience that he ws now ready for MAN. last standard gig was enjoyed - friend now asks - me want CD - which one? WHICH ONE? WHICH DECADE?
me at loss.
Tony has sent me these four titles

  Live Official Bootleg: Remastered
Man - Release date 29-03-1999
 Live: Legends Of Rock
Man - Release date 10-09-2001
 Live In London 1975
Man - Release date 25-01-1999
 Live At The Rainbow 1972
Man - Release date 25-01-1999
 Live At The Padget Rooms Penarth
Man - Release date 06-10-1997

Should he get one of these or something else?
I thought Rhinos or Back into Fut or Star Club (gets the megas on teh Star Club), or call down the moon/endangered species. what to do - and how big is the choice in 2002.
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Post by: adam on January 19, 2002, 04:39:46 AM
Well if you're doing live, Maximum and Padget Rooms are also worth a (ahem)mention...

But my pick for first CD to get is Back Into The Future, the perfect double album, with at least three of MANs top 5 album tracks I would venture. C'mon and Jam Up Jelly Tight on the top of my chart... BGTYALOAD and DYLIHN,AYSI? run close seconds.


Congrats Rob on the new addition.  

:bounce:
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Post by: They call me Mr. Tibbs on January 19, 2002, 10:15:57 AM
Picked up Rory Gallagher's "Irish Tour '74" video the other week - great stuff.
Favorite live albums include Jimi Hendrix's "Band of Gypsys", Deep Purple's "Made in Japan", and the understated triple vinyl glory of "Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends, ladies and gentlemen, Emerson, Lake and Palmer".
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Post by: andy on January 19, 2002, 10:50:02 AM
thanks adam
think you are right and will suggest:

back into the future - No one

and

maximum darkness No 2

two of the best for the reasons you give, but sound quite different
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 19, 2002, 12:17:48 PM
Cracking live albums in my opinion would include:

Genesis - Seconds Out
Yes - Yessongs
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive
Man - Friday 13th
Little Feat - Waiting For Columbus
Joe Louis Walker - Live at Slims (vol 1)
Thin Lizzy - Live And Dangerous
Pink Floyd - The Delicate Sound Of Thunder
Deep Purple - Total Abandon Live in Australia 99
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 19, 2002, 12:40:46 PM
Tony,the Allman Brothers are basically America's Manband,dual guitars with a slight blues feel.If you like Mickeys'guitar style you'll love this album.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 19, 2002, 12:55:58 PM
Yes, but why does one of my pals who rates the Allmans very highly, not like Man? Andy, Star Club has to be THE Man album.
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Post by: Rover on January 19, 2002, 02:01:14 PM
Tony, what's John Hammond like? T Waits produced?
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Post by: :-) on January 19, 2002, 03:22:46 PM
I've always had a soft spot for Man's "Be Good To Yourself Atleast Once A Day" with the fold out map.. you can never get that kind of packaging on a CD, unfortunately. Best Man track has to be "Jam Up Jelly Tight" - an epic with a beginning, middle and end!
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Post by: Alan Davies on January 19, 2002, 05:18:00 PM
Greatest live Albums:
Humble Pie - Rockin' The Fillmore.
Dr. Feelgood - Stupidity.
Eric Clapton - Just One Night.
Rory Gallagher - Irish Tour.
Allman Brothers - Wipe The Windows, Check The Oil, Dollar Gas.
Slade - Slade Alive.
Neil Young - Live Rust.
Genesis - Seconds Out.
Man - Any one from BITF(2), Maximum Darkness or Padgett Rooms. [Second thoughts, all three by Man]:rockin:
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Post by: Ste.p on January 19, 2002, 05:24:37 PM
Rob, Have you checked your mate's ears are on the right way round?
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Post by: tony on January 19, 2002, 05:32:21 PM
hi, rover the john hammond cd is very good  tom waits songs tom wait produced and playes guitar,a great album that sort of slipped last year
if the allmans play like micky i better one of there cds and have a listen!!!
which one any advise  cheers    tony.
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Post by: Colin J on January 19, 2002, 11:38:26 PM
Hello everyone
While divulging in a super pint of Germanys best holsten,i came up with this little ditty for my weekends playlist
Steely Dan-Aja
Ozric tentacles-Erpland
Lynyrd skynyrd-Greatest hits
Rainbow serpent-Mosaique
ELP-Tarkus
Music makes the world go round
       Best regards   CJ :beer2:
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Post by: Anna on January 20, 2002, 05:06:51 AM
Hello Rob Davies - it's 3am...so, are you wide awake too?!  Congratulations and best wishes to you and yours.  Ahhh, the daze when their age is calculated in weeks!!  Don't worry, they DO let you sleep through the night - eventually.  I'm living proof.

Well, today was my first hearing of Road Tales.  Got up to the bit where Deke tells us he was introduced as 'Lucifer and the Prawn Crackers' then - disaster! - my tape got eaten.  Aaaargh!
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Post by: tony on January 20, 2002, 10:14:09 AM
anna email me ,i have a cd for you but i've lost you email address  tony.
:wink2:
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Post by: Tel on January 20, 2002, 10:55:24 AM
Fav live albums (Top 10)

Man - Maximum Darkness
Purple - Made in Japan
Man - Back Into The Future
10000 Maniacs - MTV Unplugged (Recent Entry)
Who - Live At Leeds remastered
Uriah Heep - Live '73
Man - Star Club
Man - Official Bootleg
Tull - Burstin' Out
Puple - Abandon '99
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Post by: Tel on January 20, 2002, 06:17:29 PM
Fav Live albums

Man Maximum Darkness
Humble Pie - Rockin the Fillmore
Jimi Hendrix - Live at Winterland
Johnny Winter And - Live
UFO - Strangers in the Night
Kraan - Live
Bob Dylan - Hard Rain
Lou Reed - Rock?n Roll Animal
Man - Live at the Padget Rooms
Randy Newman - Live
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Post by: Tel on January 20, 2002, 09:25:12 PM
Music listened to since Xmas

Gary Moore ? Back to the Blues, excellent opening track, and a couple of jems
Elbow ? asleep in the back, some good moments, but I think it?s going to take a long time to grow
Starsailor ? what a voice!!
Muse ? Origins of Symmetry,. Some real good stuff
Turin Breaks ? The Optomist LP, still not sure
Zappa ? Zoot Allures
Doves ? Lost Soul, OK
Gomez ? Liquid Gold
GoldFrapp - ??? yes and no??
Nick Drake ? Five leaves Left, Not sure about this one? Any recommendations?
Man ? Live Legal Bootleg

Currently listening to a couple of CD?s borrowed from the local library
 Jimi Hendrix ? South Saturn Delta
Joe Satriani ? Engines of creation, different!! Any recommendations on other Satriani
Feeder ? Echo Park
Bowie ? All Saints

Deep purple are playing Brighton on 19th of Feb, so trying to get tickets to see this highly recommended guitarist ( I was more a Black Sabbath fan back in those days).
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Post by: Tel on January 20, 2002, 09:41:09 PM
Fave Live Albums? Normally the only live albums I like and listen to repeatedly are the Man ones, but after much internal debate,

Man, BITTF(2)< Padgetrooms and London75
Mothers Of Invention - Live at the Filmore
Feelgoods - Stupidity
ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition
Rory Gallagher - On The Boards
Then everything else live by Man except To Live For and to wonder why you bought it???
 I'm sure that there are plenty of others if I give it enough thought.

Besides ELP with Pictures and Mothers with Filmore, are there any other live albums where the music is not available in Studio Format??? ( and I mean most of the Album, not just the odd track)???
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Post by: Colin J on January 20, 2002, 10:18:57 PM
Favorite live albums would include
   Deep Purple-Made in Japan
   Man-The star club
   Pink floyd-Delicate sound of thunder
   Ozric tentacles-Live ethereal cereal
   Steely Dan-Alive in America
   Hawkwind-Space ritual
   Genesis-seconds out
   Zappa-you cant do that on stage 2
   Tangerine Dream-The coefficient of aural expansion(parts 1&2)2 cd boots Royal Albert hall 2,4,75.
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Post by: halfamix on January 21, 2002, 01:49:50 AM
A few live gems for listening pleasure:
Here & Now-"Gospel of the Free"
MAN-"Live at Reading 83"
Ian Boddy-"Rare Elements" (Live&Studio)
Tangerine Dream-"Ricochet"
Arthur Brown-"Order from Chaos"
Greenslade-"Live"
:cool3: :hippie:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 01:21:07 PM
Live albums;-

Thin Lizzy - Live And Dangerous
Neil Young - Weld
Man - Greasy Truckers
Man - Maximum Darkness
CPR - Live At The Wiltern
Who - Live At Leeds
Richard Thompson - Two Letter Words
Bob Dylan - Live 1966
Big Country - Come Up Screaming
Michael Nesmith - Live At The Palais

...I'm sure there's more but these are the ones that spring to mind (and I've not included any boots)
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 01:25:43 PM
The decorators have moved out and the refurbishment of Malcolm Morley's site has now been completed. As well as the previous content, there is now an archive area which already contains some previously unseen material.
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Post by: Ian Johnson on January 21, 2002, 01:27:42 PM
This week I have been mostly listening to the Quicksand CD, the Hamsters Hendrix Memorial concerts (now theres a live album....) mixed in with a bit of Man the definitive collection, Ultra Nate, Dr John Creole Moon and the sound of my sodding telephone ringing every five minutes.

Best live CD? Jam up Jelly is close to perfect, Friday the 13th is a great fave of mine, but most of the Man live albums stand out. Other faves? The Clapton album with Albert Lee, the Robin Trower live album, plus the aformentioned Hamsters.
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Post by: StEvil v.2002 on January 21, 2002, 01:29:17 PM
Favourite live albums are:

!. MAN - BITF (Jam up Jelly Tight) - great twin guitaring from Tweke and Micky, Terry at his best and Phil bringing it all to a fantastic climax....
2. MAN - Star Club
3. MAN - Greasy Truckers
4. MAN - Xmas at the Patti (LOTR)
5. MAN - Live at the Rainbow 72
6. MAN - Maximum Darkness
7. MAN - Friday 13th
8. MAN - Padget Rooms
9. MAN - BBC Live
10= MAN -1999 Party Tour
  = Tom Waits - Nighthawks at the Diner

Was given a copy of the Star Club video a while back - the quality is not that great and trying to synchronise the video and CD is a challenge. However, it adds a dimension to the CD - if only it had been done professionally....

I must admit, I forked out for that Welsh Convention video (Twang Dynasty) for Xmas - well worth it, particularly for Clive John and friends (great to see Twekey again in fine form), although was a shame Mickey didn't join them. Iceberg were great even though a 3 piece and only an afternoon's practise. Shame the Man set was cut. Does anyone know whether the footage from the rest of the Man set exists?
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Post by: StEvil v.2002 on January 21, 2002, 02:10:26 PM
Wrenchboy: some great pictures in the archive section (look forward to more in due course). Who are the band members in the second picture from Glasonbury? Must be Ernie Graham on the far right? Whatever happened to him? Did he ever do anything musically after Clancy? Great solo album with assorted Helps and Brinsleys...
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Post by: Rover on January 21, 2002, 02:47:27 PM
St Evil, you mention LOTR which I went to see this weekend. They seem to have stolen the plot from Harry Potter and replaced the broomsticks with a bit of walking.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 03:16:58 PM
Methinks Rover's playing Sauron's advocate
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 03:47:00 PM
Rover: you bought Robin (my keyboard playing son) LOTR by Bo Hansson for Xmas but Amazon still haven't managed to locate a copy. You would have thought that Swede Hansson would be cashing in on the film?? Should we cancel the order or is it really worth getting? (somebody recommended it here - I've never heard it). I bought him Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe - An Evening Of Yes Music Plus, 1989, which he enjoys immemsely. Wakeman wasn't bad on the keys was he? Shame about the music apres Yes album. He also got ELP's Tarkus (never managed to get through the whole album in the 70s). Incidentally, StEvil and possibly also Rover are in the picture from the Oval on the CD cover of Tarkus.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 05:08:02 PM
I picked up a copy of Hansson's LOTR a few months ago but I reckoned it had been sitting on the shelves for some time.  It was on One Way Records which is an American label that's also put out a few GG releases.

The music's interesting but not crucial, I would have thought.  If you can't get a copy, contact me off-line
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Post by: halfamix on January 21, 2002, 05:22:29 PM
Bo Hansson hasn't been to well over the last decade the demon drink had a hold on him,but recently he has been seen playing live in Sweden.
I have all Bo's LP's which are all worth a listen in fact when his "Music inspired by Watership Down" LP was released several people on a blind listen thought it was Pink Floyd???
:cool3:  :hippie:
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Post by: Roger Waters on January 21, 2002, 05:39:03 PM
.....another fair approximation, you mean
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Post by: son of a Took on January 21, 2002, 05:47:07 PM
I'd second Allan on Hansson's LOTR. If you're a big fan of the books it's worth getting as his interpretation of the story is quite good. The music itself is not his best and unremarkable otherwise, I prefer his Magician's Hat. I was surprised none seemed to mention it (on the LOTR boards) what with all the buzz about the movie.

For fun this weekend i've been making herbally supplimented brownies and imbibing Woodchuck while listening to:

Beck: Odelay
Caravan: In The Land of Grey + Pink
Clapton: The Cream of
MAN: BITF
Santana: Caravanserai
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on January 21, 2002, 05:53:05 PM
Bo Hansson is sitting on parkbench and drinking Conjac (that?s true).

In the late 60th he played with the swedish drummer Jan Carlsson (with artistname Karlsson) in Hansson & Karlsson, just Hammond and drums. Tax Free is a great song. Hendrix recorded that.
-Peter
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 05:55:46 PM
Whilst on the topic of LOTR you may want to check out the Mostly Autumn website - they have an album out "inspired" by either the book or the timing of the release of the film - take your pick.

They are an interesting band and this is good but not their best.  To be fair to them they have a previous Tolkien interest so this release is not entirely cynical.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 21, 2002, 07:44:02 PM
Poll : which is the top MAN track of all time?

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Post by: tony on January 21, 2002, 08:49:26 PM
this weekends listenings were
open minds roadrunners    v/a
john mclaughlin   extrapolation
jackie leven   creatures of light&dark
grandaddy   the sophtware slump
bob dylan time out of mind
 next  week somthing a bit more rocking i think!!
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Post by: Colin J on January 21, 2002, 09:34:56 PM
Hello Half mix
Would i be right in saying that the wonderful Bo Hansson and his cohort Jan Karlsson had a few jam sessions with the one and only Jimi Hendrix in the latter sixties,i remember reading it in a book about him.Absolutely love LOTR and magicians hat & attic thoughts.Quite surprising why anyone would want to offload the CLASSIC LOTR,but i suppose it must be that MOOG syndrome again.
     Best regards   CJ
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Post by: halfamix on January 22, 2002, 03:38:13 AM
Colin J my friend, I see the homebrew hasn't got you tonight. You should have seen me on Friday night I went to see Steve Hillage (got home six in the morning!!) slightly swaying shall we say.
There is a rumour that Bo Hansson and drummer Janne Karlson jammed with the great man back in 1967 and Hendrix certainly recorded some of their material.
Bo is apparently trying to get himself together nowdays and runs Opus3 Records in Sweden.

:bounce:
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on January 22, 2002, 10:51:36 AM
Yes, Hansson & Karlsson recorded some tapes with Hendrix. I think Jan Carlsson is the owner of them.
-Peter
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 22, 2002, 12:16:35 PM
Only a few days till my first Brian Wilson concert.  He played Stockholm the other night with the following setlist;-

Brian Wilson/Til I die/Dance dance dance/
In my room/California girls/Do it again/
Imagination/Lay Down Burden/Forever/Sail on sailor/I get around/Add some music/
Please let me wonder/Desert Drive/Meant for you/Friends/Our prayer/Heroes & Villains/Surf?s Up/Darlin?/Marcella
 
Second set: Band introduction/Pet Sounds album in its entirety/Good vibrations/
Surfer girl/Help me Rhonda/Barbara Ann/
Surfin? USA/Fun fun fun/Love & mercy

I suspect that after Friday and Monday that subsequent concerts will be merely entertainment!
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 22, 2002, 05:12:24 PM
DEEP PURPLE!!!! I?ve booked to see Deep Purple with Steve Morse in Brighton on 19th Feb. Looking forward to it, I?ve pulled out my old DP cassettes, In Rock, Fireball and Machine Head. I?ve got nothing more up to date.
Can anyone recommend latest titles or even let me have a copy?
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 22, 2002, 05:14:11 PM
here is no hope....

 When I was 14, I hoped that one day I would have a girlfriend.  When I
was 16 I got a girlfriend, but there was no passion. So I decided I  needed
a passionate girl with a zest for life.

 In college I dated a  passionate girl, but she was too emotional.
 Everything was an emergency, she  was a drama queen, cried all the time
 and threatened suicide. So I decided I  needed a girl with stability.

 When I was 25 I found a very stable girl  but she was boring. She was
 totally predictable and never got excited about  anything. Life became
so dull that I decided I needed a girl with some  excitement.

 When I was 28 I found an exciting girl, but I couldn't keep  up with
her. She rushed from one thing to other, never settling on anything.  She did
 mad impetuous things and flirted with everyone she met. She made me
miserable as often as happy. She was great fun initially and very  energetic, but
 directionless. So I decided to find a girl with some  ambition.
 
When I turned 31, I found a smart ambitious girl with her feet  planted
 firmly on the ground and married her. She was so ambitious that she
 divorced me and took everything I owned.

 I am now in my 50's and am  looking for a girl with very big tits.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 22, 2002, 05:21:39 PM
Martin's now posted some more tour dates for April, including Neath and Leeds. The Undrugged Tour continues to grow. Plus there's a Valentine's Day extravaganza down at the Patti on Feb 14th, featuring the enhanced Crystal Blue Persuasion, and The Silverbirds amongst other attractions.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 22, 2002, 05:42:41 PM
....and how exactly have the Crystals been enhanced?  :tongue2:
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Post by: halfamix on January 22, 2002, 06:49:39 PM
I have been chrystaly enhanced many a time! :cool3:
This "Undrugged" tour is getting better and better and nearer and nearer to my part of the world. Shame a city the size of Bristol can't offer the great MAN somewhere to play??? I might have to make some enquiries?
:hippie:
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Post by: Rover on January 22, 2002, 07:11:26 PM
Whats the gen on the April 29 date DAVE EDMUNDS & A RHINO A WINO AND A LUNATIC ?
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 22, 2002, 07:36:53 PM
The Edmunds gig was advertised at the Patti at Christmas but without any further detail.  

This latest titbit does rather suggest that Mr Edmunds will be backed up with some of the Manband - perhaps Messrs Ace, Leonard and Potter.  I feel the need to have a meeting in our Bristol office on the 29th April!!
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 22, 2002, 08:19:17 PM
Edmunds at St Davids Hall is a one man show (he's displaying his excellent finger-pickin' skills), but Micky, Martin and Deke will be providing support (as opposed to assistance or accompaniment). I think this is by way of a warm up for the lad from Splott.

There's been no mention of Bob or Gareth being there, so don't necessarily expect a Man gig, just maybe some Undrugged material. I guess anything's possible of course.
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Post by: Rob Davies on January 22, 2002, 08:54:47 PM
I think someone posted a message about what album to use as an introduction to the Man repertoire. There was a similar conversation at GT2 last year; I suggested CDTM or Endangered Species, Tel went for BGTYALOAD and Star Club. I think the only solution though is to buy the whole back catalogue as no matter which album you start with ( except perhaps To Live For to Die and a couple of songs on TWC) that will be the inevitable outcome !

Great live albums (apart from Man's live albums of which I would single out in particular the 1994 Glastonbury set and Live at the Rainbow as being awesome) : Genesis - Seconds Out; Blackfoot - Live ( from the 1982 UK tour - I saw them at the Hexagon in Reading and they remain one of my all time favourite live bands); Rory Gallagher - Irish Tour and the Amsterdam official bootleg in the Lets Go to Work box set because of the perfect version of Continental Op; The Band - The Last Waltz; Jackie Leven - The Wanderer ( not strictly a live album but the live excerpts are brilliant); Van Morrison - It's Too Late to Stop Now; Max Boyce - Live at Treorchy ( not just because my parents were in the audience !); Whitesnake - Live in the Heart of the City ( before Coverdale went all MTV); Marillion - CD 1 of the Thieving Magpie ; and whilst not strictly a live album the Dexy's Midnight Runners Radio 1 sessions album is well worth a listen.
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Post by: Colin J on January 22, 2002, 09:20:23 PM
Hello Half mix(steve)
Who was Hillage playing with the other night?or was he doing his System 7 noodlings,excellent stuff.I must say my solo favorite would have to be Rainbow dome music:cool3: :bounce: nice to know you kept exemplary finishing time :beer2:
Rob D,i still have 2 vinyl copies of the boyce man(live at Treorchy) an absolute classic album,just look at his attire on that front cover.  Best regards  CJ.
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Post by: tony on January 22, 2002, 09:52:50 PM
hey rob D im playing the last waltz as i read your posing!! what a great cd it is ,i hope it comes out on dvd soon,and i would like to see neil yongs  rust never sleeps also on dvd soon a great concert film,anyone got any fav concert vids.   tony
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Post by: Rob Davies on January 22, 2002, 10:04:51 PM
Tony, just before I head home for another sleepless night courtesy of Alex trying out his lungs, fave concert vids would include:
The HTV programme of Man's last gig at the Roundhouse - very good quality version courtesy of TWC ( Michael, have HTV saved the clips fom the Elinor chat show and might they feature on video ?); The Last Waltz !; Rory G's Messin' with the Kid and Irish Tour; Year of the Horse; and Reciting the Script ( Marillion at Hammersith Odeon in 1981 I think).
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Post by: halfamix on January 23, 2002, 12:48:41 AM
Hi All
Yes Colin J,Steve Hillage was with System 7 which consists of him and his misses, fellow ex Gong member Miquette Giraudy. Full on hard psych Techno it was to! I think I was one of the elder members of the audience! But very enjoyable the only moan is that I found it impossible to tell the acts on stage from the DJ's!!!
:cool3::hippie::cool3:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 23, 2002, 01:47:32 AM
There is going to be a DVD version of The Last Waltz coming out in the spring - no idea about any extra materials but given that there's going to be an expanded 4-CD version of the album this looks to be a good 'un.

Rob's list reminded of a few live albums I'd forgotten about but, oddly enough, Max Boyce wasn't one of them.  Should I mention Billy Connolly?

Re Dexy's there is an excellent BBC set of a concert they did which is a super companion to the radio sessions set
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 23, 2002, 04:23:18 AM
OK, i take it back, C'MON rules

:smile3:
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 23, 2002, 09:19:03 AM
Rob: concerning Man introductions, I've recently been in contact with a Norwegian on the Jackie Leven list who admitted to having some Man albums and  liking them. It turned out that he had Padget Rooms (bought in the 70s as it was budget based on a recommendation in Sounds) as well as Rhinos, Slow Motion and Welsh Connection. Based on that collection, I felt I had to introduce him to some real Man and this was my suggestion:
BITF (1973)
Star Club (1998)
Greasy Truckers (1972)
Call Down the Moon (1995)
Endangered Species (2000)
By the way, did you get the latest JL Official Bootleg which was distributed recently (recorded live at Edinburgh Festival)? If not, I can make a copy for you (it was distributed as a CD "vine"). I reckon you haven't been paying much attention recently...
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 23, 2002, 02:34:06 PM
MAN are playing at The Leopard, Doncaster, South Yorks on Thursday 7th March.
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Post by: Rover on January 23, 2002, 02:38:34 PM
"Difficult to define - Pub-Rock come Metal come Psychadelic (Wishbone Ash meets Hawkwind. A superb band who debuted in the '70s, still recording and releasing excellant music and have a huge cult following. Check out the dedicated web ring."
What do you mean a "huge" following?
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Post by: StEvil2001 on January 23, 2002, 02:46:14 PM
Rover: I'm not so sure that YOU is listening...
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Post by: StEvil v.2002 on January 23, 2002, 02:47:00 PM
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 23, 2002, 02:47:26 PM
As cult usually means two men and a dog, perhaps a "huge cult following" is three men and a dog, or perhaps two men and a large dog............or maybe he's getting chased down the street by the Moonies
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 23, 2002, 04:35:26 PM
Surely 'huge' would have to be at least three men and two dogs, otherwise no-one would be able to claim a 'large' cult following.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 23, 2002, 05:56:09 PM
Hey StEvil -

The Glastonbury line up is left to right : Jonathan Glempser, Ernie Graham, Dave Charles, Richard Treece, a grooving Phil Franks, and Malcolm Morley. Identity of the chap behind Dave Charles is unknown.

Expect more material in the archive next month.

Here to serve...
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 25, 2002, 12:08:46 AM
I see the page hit counter is back working again.:cool2:
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 25, 2002, 12:55:06 AM
Yip, Jules was finally arsed to do something about resetting it.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 25, 2002, 01:21:25 AM
I have a live Max Boyce album stuck in the loft somewhere. I think a red cover with a track called "I Was There" or similar. Also up in the loft are similar albums by Jasper Carrott (before he sold out to the TV),Jake Thackeray, Bernard Wrigley and the greatest of all folk singing comedians, Bob Williamson.... And what actually determines a cult following?
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 25, 2002, 01:55:35 AM
1975, my last and greatest year in London, with the world my oyster... why the hell did I leave?

Yep Yip 38457, we're back in buzzniss. Just how much of a huge cult following does it take to post those kind of numbers? Half-dozen?

Do cult members fanatically belive in the cause in the face of all adversity? Can they be swayed by reason or entreaty to alter their singleminded course? Do cult members have the proscribed mantras running through their heads at all times?
Do the recrut all their friends and family. I think the answers are obvious...

spunkrocker
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on January 25, 2002, 09:54:23 AM
Mr. Woolfe: Not the Phenomenal B. Wrigley???!! I have thought for years that I WAS the cult following of Mr. Wrigley. Have had a brilliant album of the same name for nigh on 25 years. However, a quick search on the net revealed that his complete back catalogue is now out on CD (all 12 of them!). See http://homepage.mac.com/kwoy/bernard/index.htm. And that's what he looks like. I had imagined him as an octogenarian in 1975.
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Post by: Colin J on January 25, 2002, 12:38:56 PM
A big friday :arse: to everyone.A nice day off work today,just as well cos its hammering down,a dustmans nightmare.This weekends playlist
      Rush-a farewell to kings
      Man- 2ozs of plastic ETC
      Jean michel jarre-Oxygene
      Edgar Broughton band-wasa wasa
      Talking heads-little creatures
      White noise-white noise Iv-inferno
   Best regards   CJ
PS Half mix The gwynne hall gig is a must
straight down the M4 :beer2: :bounce: :wink2:
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Post by: Phil on January 25, 2002, 01:36:13 PM
I was prompted by Colin J weekend list to enquire about the White Noise album

I used to have an album by them that I think was called Electric Storm - dead scary - we used to listen to it and go up on the mountain to frighton ourselves stupid - does anyone knoe if this is still available as I'd like to frighten the kids!
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Post by: Fostz on January 25, 2002, 02:15:04 PM
I see Glastonbury is back on for this year then. Unfortunately I can't go as I made a pact with my band, Wheelchair Lovers, at Glsto '93 that we would't go back unless we were playing. Daft idea, I know. I think Man must have been involved with that pact as well, as I don't they played there since '93 either.
Here's some more good news I've heard today -"Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol can help lower the chances of developing dementia, Dutch scientists have said." There's a link to it, over by there <--.
Oh yes and a big friday ARSE to you all.
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Post by: halfamix on January 25, 2002, 02:40:48 PM
well it looks like I am going to be a busy boy; as my only job nowdays is working for Glastonbury Festival Inc and as the previous poster stated we got the go ahead last night. It always looked like we would, as confidential letters have been doing the rounds!!
They have sacked most of the previous years gate staff but wrote last week stating that due to previous experience and ability (ha ha) they would like me to monitor all gate crews!!!!!
It is hard work I can tell you with 12 hour shifts etc but I have access to all areas. I wonder if I will be able to drink Pink Floyds beer rider as I did with Robbie Williams rider several years ago?
The White Noise CD is available and what an LP! I listen to it all the time. On the vinyl it is reffered to as having a light side and a dark side beware of the dark side!
Colin J thanks for info on Gwynne Hall gig,I'll have to see if I can make that one.
Laters :cool3:
:hippie:
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Post by: Tel on January 25, 2002, 04:45:15 PM
Electric Storm by White Noise!!!! Gosh there's a rave from the grave. I remember that from about 30 years ago. Does anybody also remember Spooky Tooth and Pierre Henry - Ceremony??

This weeks listening list has been a little diverse
Fairport Convention - Nine
Fairport Convention - Live (Jerry Donahue - Another great underated guitarist)
REM - Automatic For The People
Blue Band - Brand Loyalty
Genesis - Genesis ("Can You Hear Me Mother")
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours (Lyndsey Buckingham - Another one of Rocks other greatest underated guitarists)
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions

Put aside for this weekend

Yes - The Ladder
Dylan - Another Side/Bring It All Home
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Post by: Tel on January 25, 2002, 07:02:25 PM
I've been asking people here about Smokey Tooth's version of I am the Walrus for years and everyone's denied all knowledge of the band. I'm glad now to see that I didn't dream them.
I always thought the stewards at Glastonbury were Street RFC. Must be getting serious about the security now if they're employing people who don't just get paid in cider.
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Post by: tony on January 25, 2002, 07:40:10 PM
hey halfaix best mate ,pal ect, what gate will you be on,nudge nudge ,wink wink,
this weeks play list:
magma udu wudo
magma live
neil young live rust
frank zappa apostrophie
man  call down the moon
over the weekend ive got lined up:
yes  close to the edge
stevie ray vaughn texas flood
have a great weekend people not long untill the tour starts!!
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Post by: ron on January 25, 2002, 07:55:27 PM
Fostz-

I Am The Walrus is on the Spooky album "Last Puff". Great version too. I like this album a lot. Think I'll play it on my radio show today.Ceremony isn't their best album. Sort of weird modern classic noise over some ST sounds. (we had a good laugh when that one came out:laugh:) The first album It's All About is a great little psych lp and Spooky 2 is a great rock album in the style of Free.

RS
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Post by: Rob Woolfe on January 25, 2002, 10:24:40 PM
Mr v.2002: Bernard Wrigley has his own show on BBC Radio Lancashire, occasionally appears on Coronation Street, and earlier this week visited the Deansgate Beer Festival in Manchester. He is still known as "The Bolton Bullfrog".
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Post by: Colin J on January 26, 2002, 12:10:03 AM
Hello Phil
Inferno is a live boot,Dave Vorhaus is an absolute demon of the wonderful MOOG world,Electric storm is a classic.As a record collector of over 27 years there are a number of genuine records that have failed to make a succesful impact on the music scene that i have come across.White noise is by far due to its ccareness,the most remarkable. A masterpeice. TD rules.
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Post by: Colin J on January 26, 2002, 12:11:13 AM
Sorry Phil.I mean Scareness.
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 26, 2002, 03:04:28 AM
Just back from BW - my expectations and anticipation was high and the great man (and his superb band) exceeded them with some ease.  Surf's Up really is close to perfection, as was the live Pet Sounds (I Just Wasn't Made For These Times and Caroline No being stunning).

I suspect everything will be found wanting in comparision in future - with the possible exception of Monday's gig in London!!
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Post by: Allan Heron on January 26, 2002, 12:46:15 PM
Allan, so you've just seen this Bernard Wrigley chap then??
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Post by: halfamix on January 26, 2002, 05:51:05 PM
tony
My friend,normally there is not a problem getting friends into Glasto but this year everything is getting harder and heavier! In previous years It was easy but this year everything is being done to keep people out who don't have a ticket and as I am a monitor (hopefully this means I don't have to do much work?) I will be in charge of about 30 or 40 gate staff (Gate 6 I think)so a good example will have to be set!!! (I suppose this will mean no all night parties like previous years? 12hrs partying followed by 12hr shifts is not good for the head!!! :cool3:
:hippie:
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Post by: ron on January 26, 2002, 09:07:40 PM
allan-

I just wrote a long comment about Brian Wilson, but as I went to post it, Netscape crashed. Oh well. The point was: Lucky you. I only saw Brian once and that was the first gig I ever saw in '64. One of his last as a Beach Boy. Wish I was there with you.:smile3:

Buy all the reissues and box sets. (use caution when you get towards the end of the line)

Surf's Up

RS
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Post by: tony on January 27, 2002, 01:02:22 AM
halfamix,im really pissed off that i will not be able to go to a mud bath and watch crap bands and que six hours for a piss,que 7 hours for a veggie burger, and live amongst cow pats for three days ,then que 4 days trying to get out of the place, then take two weeks off work to get over the experience...so  thanks pal i owe ya one!!!
cheers  tony
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Post by: Bradley on January 27, 2002, 02:10:01 AM
I am in London for the weekend on a business trip and had the good fortune to meet Malcolm Morley.  Help Yourself (less Dave Charles who couldn't make it due to his schedule)played together today for the the first time in 25+ years.  Malcolm and Richard were very buzzed about the reunion and it appears to have gone down well.  Plans are in the works to release the unfinished last album with the addition of some newly recorded material from the reunited group.

Bradley
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Post by: Colin J on January 27, 2002, 02:33:47 PM
Hello Half mix
Have you heard which bands are headlining this year,or is it to early,i would like to echo Tonys sentiment regarding the Nudge Nudge Wink wink comment.I am willing to slip some qualty mushroom soup your way.
          Best regards    CJ :wink2: :eek2: :laugh3:
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Post by: halfamix on January 27, 2002, 05:29:10 PM
tony
Don't go then. The only reason I work at Glastonbury is that I was offered a job at the festival after the organisers found out (don't know how) that I used to help run (sort of) the Stonehenge Peoples Free Festival. I get paid, access to hot showers,a food tent and our own bogs and security guards looking after tents etc. So I would be a mug not to help out!
Colin J me old mate, not sure of line up yet but there is talk that the Floyd will be there and Rod Stewart!!
I am not sure if I am going to be able to get anyone in as the job has changed this year as stated earlier, I am normally in charge of the gates but this year Oxfam volunteers are running gates with me monitoring them! (I don't know what I will be doing)Monitoring I expect whatever that entails? :cool3:
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Post by: tony on January 27, 2002, 08:47:42 PM
halfamix,im sure you will enjoy rod stewart!!  do ypu think he's sexy and got hot leggs leopard skin leggings rule!!
  cheers   tony
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Post by: halfamix on January 27, 2002, 09:42:21 PM
tony
I have already seen Rod Stewart! (Got free tickets)and Pink Floyd but I think Rod will get missed where as the Floyd will definately get another viewing. I always find that the better bands at Glastonbury are always on the smaller stages.
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Post by: tony on January 27, 2002, 11:05:08 PM
halfamix, i was only joking my friend,
i think rod stewart should geat the remaining faces back for a tour  that would be a great gig!
cheers    tony.
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on January 28, 2002, 09:30:12 AM
Party Tour!!!
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Post by: Rover on January 28, 2002, 10:52:26 AM
Sorry Peter. Party Fours and Party Sevens are no longer available in this country. Other forms of warm beer are readily available.
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Post by: halfamix on January 28, 2002, 02:19:56 PM
Watneys Red Barrel for anyone?
:yuck2:
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Post by: Colin J on January 28, 2002, 05:20:23 PM
Or perhaps a Tennants super:eek4::brickwall::yuck::yuck2: Long live the mighty Directors choice.:beer2:
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Post by: tony on January 28, 2002, 06:53:13 PM
any one know if the flying aces or the turban town cds are out yet  they must be due soon chers  tony.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on January 28, 2002, 11:13:50 PM
Peter.   Re your hotels...
Pete Feenstra (promoter of The MAN weekend) has a list and said he would forward it to you - but he was a little pre-occupied when I saw him on Friday, so it might have slipped his mind.  
If you are not sorted for accommodation I suggest you email him at PetFeenstr@aol.com  
See you at Worcester Park .....
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on January 29, 2002, 10:08:24 AM
halfamix - think i have a poor recording of man at stonehenge somewhere - may have lost the tape. was the man year the last one to go off before the police clamped down? Remember Nik Turner around - was it ICU that played?
see below mention of a monday gig - that aint this weekend is it?
andy
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on January 29, 2002, 12:12:33 PM
I see new 'Undrugged' tour dates are appearing almost daily on Martin's official site - Penzance, Chester, Southend...how about some dates in the huge geographical chasm between Dudley and Penzance? Sadly the Attic, Axiom and Bransons are no more in Cheltenham but how about the Fleece & Firkin in Bristol or Guildhall in Gloucester?
Tony - I have ordered the Flying Aces and Turban Town from Amazon but the order status shows them as not yet having been released. Halfamix - please contact me off-list - I have a live CDR you may be interested in!
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Post by: halfamix on January 29, 2002, 03:23:03 PM
Andy
I don't think that MAN were at the last Stonehenge in 84 before the "Battle of the Beanfield" in 85. The Enid headlined the 84 event with Hawkwind playing at Sunrise and any other time they could get on stage. ICU were definately there because it was Nik Turners stage that we put up! I have the video (in which a young halfamix features!!!) of this last great Free festival and there is certainly no MAN on this.
PS... Thanks Kevin :cool3:
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Post by: Peter Brandholm on January 29, 2002, 03:27:03 PM
Dave!
Thank You for the e-mail address to Pete F.
See You...
-Peter
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Post by: andy on January 29, 2002, 06:27:01 PM
halfamix
me back home and opened drawer - there it is - man stonehenge 84 - remember enid - remember man perhaps day before?  coming on around dusk or dark and deke saying how cold it was which it was.
will put tape on now and see what comes out - seem to recall lots of talkovers from lots of stoned hengers - andy
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Post by: andy on January 29, 2002, 06:32:15 PM
martin tells stonehemge to settle down now 'i knoiw you're all getting very excited' - martin was superb throughout
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Post by: halfamix on January 29, 2002, 07:11:22 PM
Nice one Andy, I certainly don't remember the band being there in 84 but then again I have difficulty remembering one henge from another!
What a shame they aren't on the vid of the last one.:cool3:
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Post by: andy on January 29, 2002, 08:07:08 PM
Stonehenge 84 micky martin deke pugwash
Im not usually into line and length but thought might be of interest, quality OK

c’mon - 8 min
what a night – 3 min
even visionaries – 4 min
long holiday – 4 min
talk about a morning – 8 mega mins
jumping like a kangaroo – 5 min
last birthday party – 3 min
back together again – 4+ minutes ended by ending of side one
hard way to die – 4 min
perfect strangers – 3 min
ride and the view – 8 min
asylum – 5 min
hard way to live – 4 min
many are called (storm) – 11 min
  a bit more later on:
bananas – 8 min and tape runs out on drum solo exit
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Post by: StEvil v.2002 on January 30, 2002, 01:17:46 PM
Great news Bradley. Who would have thought - new material from the Helps, the 5th album now looking like being released, new material from Richard Treece later in the year, new Cds from Flying Aces, undrugged Man.... Think it?s time to ask for that pay rise.
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Post by: StEvil v.2002 on January 30, 2002, 01:20:37 PM
I have a Norwegian convert to Aliens - he wrote: "Some of the best music I?ve heard for a long time and my 20-year old son agrees"
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Post by: Ron on January 30, 2002, 10:20:21 PM
I talked to Treece yesterday, and he says he's just got copies of his cd. Sounds like the Helps session was nervous fun. They are back at it this weekend. Add to that list of new stuff this year: the next Brain lp. It's got a bit of Malc, and Richard should be on a few. We're doing the detail work at the moment: fixing bum notes, and making sure everyone is happy. We're going to try and cut one more song this week. In mid-February Deniz Tek (see Radio Birdman) will be around to add guitars to a few things. He's been waiting for me to ask. One song is a last ditch effort to fix up a song no ones likes except me and Treece. With far too many songs, it's a bit of a struggle to chose the best ones. In the end I get to make the final choice. Still trying to sort out a tour for the fall. That would include Treece and the rest of us. hope to see some of you in September:bounce:
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Post by: colin r on February 01, 2002, 12:07:12 PM
roll call for Walthamstow? I should be there for a 9 pm start but domestics not quite sorted yet. Rob D - if I am going do you want a lift?:arse:
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Post by: Tel on February 01, 2002, 03:18:16 PM
Colin - I Will be there with Jeff and Paul in tow. I'm not sure about Dave Bardsley he was uncertain when I saw at Xmas Time. Mr Davies (of the Rob flavour) is still practising his nappy changing skills. - Many are called but.............
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 01, 2002, 04:33:08 PM
90% certain fot The Standard.  Outcome dependent on condition after England v Scotland.  Aiming to arrive Walthamstow around 7 to look for somewhere to eat then on to the gig.
Of course Davies will look back on his non-attendance as indefensible in the fullness of time. His match isn't until Sunday.
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Post by: Tel on February 01, 2002, 04:54:32 PM
Dave - were departing Colchester at approx. 18-00 so we should be in the vicinity of the Royal Toilet at about 7ish. There is a probability that food maybe required as well from the Colchestarians.
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Post by: Tel on February 01, 2002, 06:16:28 PM
My band couldn't decide on a name, so we've shortlisted it to 10 and have thrown recomemdations open to any old wierdo with internet access.
As you're mostly wierdoes with internet access, who better to ask?
Vote for your favourite name for my band here. Although I think I can already guess which one's going to be most popular with Man fans.
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Post by: Tel on February 01, 2002, 06:22:21 PM
Hiya!  Enjoy the Undrugged night chaps.  Wish I was going.  Is the cd for sale now?

Good weekend all.
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Post by: Tel on February 01, 2002, 06:57:06 PM
Not yet sure if I'll be there on Saturday, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!!
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Post by: Tim W on February 01, 2002, 07:36:46 PM
For anyone planning a Good Friday in York - apparently the Fibbers gig is a non-starter. Just as well there are Leeds and Doncaster dates being played in God's own county.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 01, 2002, 07:40:43 PM
Tel - I am relatively cosmopolitan in my food tastes.  But that does NOT extend to the outlets in the Blackhorse Road area.
Suggest you stop off in Walthamstow centre en route - The E.H.O.s probably get round there every century or so...
PS. There's a support band (and not the one we had last time)
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 01, 2002, 08:41:15 PM
Thanks Wyn for 1288.

I too will be at the Standard gig - it's a short distance from SE10 through the pipe.  Hope the beers better than the WP. Didn't I read in WC that "Undrugged" was an acoustic project?  

Anyone in striking distance of Central London, and free of domestic chores, looking for a gig in the void between the Standard and WP may like to attend the launch of the Cool Brynners CD, Somewhere Down the Line, at the 100 Club Tuesday 12feb(?5).  The band features 3 former YaYas members who supported Man several times (in the 80s?). They're fronted by the ex-Rubber Johnny vocalist, with a couple of guitars, fretless bass and drums.  You know they'll be good because you have my word for it and only one of them looks under 35. Grey-haired Trevor Walters, who bangs the sospans, still has my copy of Rhinos Winos and Lunatics:The Book. I had to buy a copy of the 2nd edition to fill the gap in the bookcase:beer:
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on February 02, 2002, 07:28:26 PM
No problem Howard,nice to see your boys in safe hands again.

I'm quite excited about tonight's show as it's a bit of an unknown quantity.Man have been playing basically the same set ever since ES came out but with 'Undrugged' about to escape we're presumably going to hear plenty of material from that.I wonder if they'll have it ready for sale yet.

I'm not even sure whether to expect the full 5 piece line-up.If it's a mainly unplugged set possibly not.

Incidentally if anybody wants to say hello,I'll be easy enough to recognise.Look out for a fat bloke in his forties drinking a pint of beer.That should narrow it down!

:beer:
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on February 03, 2002, 10:20:14 AM
Well,so much for speculating that we might get something radically different from the norm.What we got looked and sounded a bit like the fat bloke from Cheers.

If my addled brain serves me it was a main course of Conflict of Interest,Hanging On,Love Isn't Love,C'mon,Ride And The View,Popemobile,Many Are Called.Bananas and Romain for pudding.

On the way out I picked up the DVD.I can't recommend it highly enough.Compared with now they were practically a Punk Rock band.Most of the old favourites are there but sounding all the better for being shorter,sharper versions.The 1983 version of C'mon lasts about 8 mins compared with 28 mins last night ( yes I was looking at my watch).Micky's singing is a particular highlight.I only saw the band for the first time in 1994 and having heard people describe his voice in glowing terms,now know what the fuss was about.
Well worth ?15 of anybody's hard earned, but buy it at a gig as the boys apparently get next to nothing out of the publishing.

Roll on next month.
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Post by: Tel on February 03, 2002, 12:24:51 PM
Wyn - Set list is right, I was sober so my recollection is pretty clear.

Some interesting things from last night - Conflict has an extended middle/solo bit and as an opener it cooks. A lot more from Gareth now, much more to the fore as a keyboard player including a sort of solo in Ride and a great synth solo in Bananas. The transition from Love Isn't Love into C'mon is a lot tighter and more organised and Popemobile has more direction. Martin suffered a slight technical hitch during Conflict but the professional hands of Pete Williams got things sorted.

Most of the songs had some improvements/changes in one way or another.  Good to see Micky with an SG again which gave Many Are Called and Bananas a slightly fuller sound.

No pic's this time I'm afraid, I decided to just relax and enjoy the show. All in all a great night and I'm looking forward to catching at least one of the London gigs and the Grand in April. :wink2:
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 03, 2002, 12:29:48 PM
Morning All...
Wyn sounds disappointed with the gig.  Personally I thought they played a good, tight set, helped by a good sound set up.  Yes, the set list was the more recent variant with the three ES tracks opening and Popemobile sandwiched between Ride and MACBFGU. (That kept Tel happy!).  It was perhaps disappointing not to get something new but we did get different set-piece solos (Micky's on Do It/Conflict was particularly stunning), so there is work in progress.  There was even an embrionic Gareth solo in Ride.
Re. the Bananas debate.  I like the song and the arrangement, was pleased to see it back and enjoyed Bob & Gareth's solos. OK.
Oh, and Deke broke a string - so maybe nothing has really changed...
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 03, 2002, 01:30:03 PM
hello!
Can i get chords & text for 7171-551 song from Man band?
THANKS!
please reply on mpavlica@ptt.yu
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Post by: Tim W on February 03, 2002, 01:39:19 PM
I've been emailed a couple of pics from last night's gig; I'll try and get them posted later today.
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Post by: michael heatley on February 03, 2002, 06:13:50 PM
Hi to all who came last ight(oo-er). Please introdce yousleves next time cos I'm frantically trying to fit names to actoins (eg who bought the Man Live DVD)!

Newsletter out this week as I wanted to get a review of this gig in. If you ain't resubscried yet, expect a visit from the boys - I mean, they gotta have something to do between soundcheck and showtime...
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Post by: Wyn Roberts on February 03, 2002, 08:36:33 PM
Michael,if you only got shot of one DVD,I'm afraid I'm the guilty party.

Dave,I wouldn't exactly say I was disappointed.What they did,they did as beautifully as ever but I was just hoping to see a revised set showcasing the new material that's due out.

I think this is the seventh time I've seen the Manband in the last eighteen months and they've chosen from a maximum of thirteen songs - C'mon ,Ride,Many Are Called,Bananas,Romain,and the eight songs on ES.The problem is obvious - they're not catering for sad obsessives like me who can't last three months without going to one of their gigs.

Have I learned my lesson? No!All being well I'll be seeing them two nights running at Rayners Lane and The Torrington next month.:help2:
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Post by: michael heatley on February 04, 2002, 09:41:40 AM
Got a sneak tape of Undrugged from band member on Sat and it is unplugged - if they are going to pay thi stuff on tour it will take rehearsals. Even if they did it plugged, songs like 'Scotch Corner' and 'Day & Night' are unfamiliar to most of the lads. Maybe D&M will come out and do a segment...
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Post by: Tel on February 04, 2002, 12:11:07 PM
During saturdays gig, when the audience were shouting for the usual unplayed favourite or two (inc myself going for "a night in dad's bag" - I try to get a different one each time!!) Martin announced that next week a band called Day And Night would be appearing to play all the requests.

Got me thinking - what would be a good name for a Man tribute band? Apart from "cast of thousands" of course!!
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Post by: Rover on February 04, 2002, 03:28:05 PM
I remember seeing an angry young Elvis Costello (there is a connection - Nick Lowe was on bass). At the start of the gig, he came out and performed 3 new songs, just him on (electric) guitar. Not exactly unplugged but similar. Where should Man schedule in their unplugged numbers (if at all)?
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Post by: Rob Davies on February 04, 2002, 04:12:35 PM
Thanks everyone for the gig info, sounds like a good night. I had to give it a miss through a combination of being away for 3 days last week and my son's sleeping habits being such that even if I could have contemplated asking for a Saturday night pass I would never have got to the Standard whilst awake. Colin R, thanks for the offer of the lift. Allan, I hope you enjoyed Brian Wilson last week, sorry I missed you.

This may be a little contentious but I would prefer any Unplugged element of the set to be kept to a minimum or nil. Fully plugged in versions of some of the back catalogue featured on Undrugged, however, would be most welcome. What is the song list for UnDrugged ?

I would go for Youth or Lad as names for the tribute band. ( Humour and the legal profession just do not mix.) I am a bit worried about this whole tribute malarky though. Looking at some of the websites for the tour emphasises just how many tribute bands there are doing the rounds - that just cannot be healthy for live music and thank God there are bands like Man who have talent musicianship and pride in their own music who are still prepared to get out there to play and entertain.

A couple of my main disappointments in gig terms include never having seen, for example, Led Zep, Free, the Rising-incarnation of Rainbow, Genesis of any era up to Abacab and Rory Gallagher. But these bands should be inspirations - I don't want to go out to see a facsimile of a band. Cover versions yes, but complete single band cover sets no. See, it is not only my son who can throw toys out of prams.
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Post by: Rover on February 04, 2002, 04:48:51 PM
Rob, when he throws the toys, is it a forward pass? SOrry to mention that sport.
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Post by: Tel on February 04, 2002, 04:59:03 PM
Ahh Rob, you would have been in good company on Saturday as Jeff hates tribute bands - "I'd rather see a bad original band than a good tribute band" is the quote he made when we were discussing the subject.. I've seen four in my time, Limehouse Lizzy, Nearvana, Pink Fraud and 24 Carrot Purple. There was a Who tribute band in there somewhere but I was so pissed that I cannot remember too much about them and we supported ABCD (thats an ACDC tribute not 80's pop band ABC)a few years ago but I wasn't really paying much attention.

Tribute bands are a sticky wicket, of the lot I gave the first three are tributes to bands we are not likely to see, though Floyd may come back I suspect discovering food and the fact they have money may prevent this (were they any good after Roger Waters left anyway?? Maybe). In this case they were enjoyable. 24 Carrot Purple were seen about two years ago and although they were good, I felt a desire to see the real McCoy. I must admit I could not bring myself to see a tribute band if the band themselves are still touring following the Purple experience.

The whole point of tribute bands and why there are so many is that they are popular - they can fill a venue and guarantee an income. Yes it's on the back of somebody else but it pays.

However the point of my question was really to get a little humour going following Martins remarks - I think a real Man tribute band would be a non starter..
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Post by: michael heatley on February 04, 2002, 05:11:31 PM
Just to whet your appetite, Undrugged includes (among others):

Scotch Corner
D&Night
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Manillo (indistiguishable from original)
Dream Away
Asylum

Of those lot I wouldn't say no to the first three as additons to set or duo/trio performance
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Post by: David Weston on February 04, 2002, 05:39:09 PM
A most splendid gig at Walthamstow Saturday the highlight for me being Jones' truly extraordinary solo in C'mon. Good to hear some newer numbers although I can't help wondering why the set lists seem so limited in recent years (in fact probably since '83)? On a related subject I was looking to purchase a couple of the recent studio albums at the gig but I am pretty sure that none were available (definitely didn't have CDTM) so settled for a dodgy CD copy of Welsh Connection. Any idea whether this situation will be rectified at the upcoming gigs Michael (if that is indeed you behind the stall)or should I purchase from Amazon or  similar?

DW
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on February 04, 2002, 06:56:59 PM
I'd be chuffed to see a blistering version of Asylum being done. In fact I'd be chuffed to see the band hit the spot with a high energy gig regardless of what was in the setlist.

Day & Night would be very welcome too, nice bit of slide going on there.

Roll on March.
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 04, 2002, 08:23:04 PM
Tel - You forgot to mention Jeff's confession.  He once played in a Queen tribute band.  Still I suppose we all have our price.  
As I said, I don't have a problem with tribute bands - but then again, I've never been to see one (except for The Hamsters).  I like to hear my music in smaller venues but I consider the grave to be too small.  So if there is a person out there who prefers to play SRV rather than be accused of parodying SRV's work, then I'm more likely to go see them.  And it works from their point of view too, because they will draw larger crowds, and then they can possibly introduce new material and then ... and then...  Actually, come to think of it, SRV did a lot of Hendrix tribute/covers....

Name for a Man tribute band?  "Many"  as in MACBFGU
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Post by: Dave Bardsley on February 05, 2002, 03:34:33 AM
Man, i gotta swing towards Manillo, an absolute top track: it's killer accoustic with the vocals to boot...

Have just finished Gentle Giant's Octopus and what blissful prog rock it is too.

Now into 7171-551 on Maximum and.. umm.

:smile3:
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Post by: Tel on February 05, 2002, 12:17:45 PM
I suppose you could argue that the Hamsters are a covers band rather than a tribute band. In the case of Limehouse Lizzy, they do go out of there way to look like the classic Lizzy lineup. The Floyd tribute did the Whole of DSOTM amd Echoes as well a parts of the Wall, See Emily Play, One Of These Days amongst others. Nearvana actually split up on stage which was the highlight of the gig - it may have been staged but it did'nt look like it.

It's a case of drawing the line somewhere, - were the Stones and The Beatles tribute bands when they started or in that case are the Jets a tribute band - quite obviously not. (The Bootleg Beatles would become a tribute band to a tribute band - let's not go there).

I agree entirely Dave, I don't mind seeing a tribute band if you cannot see the real thing either through death or other reasons. Our biggest pay night in my last band was when we were asked to play at the Oliver Twist in Colchester (where Man played in 1993) as a Stones tribute had dropped out at the last minute.

As for Jeff and the Queen tribute, he actually didn't have to do much as the crowd did most of the singing - and it was a one off. Oh yes and he was paid!!!

Actually in my confession I forgot to mention I saw the Counterfeit Stones and The Royal Family at an open air gig in Colchester under 2 Years ago (with Jeff I would hasten to add) but that was the result of being dragged along by various friends female partners.

But then the previous year we had seen Marmalade, The Tremeloes and Showaddywaddy - WHY!!!

When I think back I start to doubt my sanity.
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Post by: Evil Webmaster on February 05, 2002, 02:08:10 PM
I have extensive experience of watching and listening to tribute bands performing. To date I've seen, let me think now, precisely none. I've read the various gig reviews, which all seem to concentrate on how proficient the musicians are, how realistic the vocals sound, how tight and professional the bands are.

I've always made it a conscious choice to see original bands playing original music. I'll accept an occasional cover, especially if it's been well and inventively interpreted, but I reckon music is only progressed by the creation of new material. A respectful nod back to our roots can often serve to remind us what we should hope to better, but really we should mostly be looking ahead.

Musician acquaintances often tell me about how easy it is to get gigs as a tribute band, as opposed to how hard it is to get gigs playing their own music.

Now there's the re