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Title: Riverside
Post by: akko on April 16, 2013, 11:51:41 PM
Hi all. I haven't posted for some time as Coventry is a bit of a desert as regards gigs go, but it was very remiss of me not to mention a marvellous concert  at Leamington Assembly by Riverside.

A Polish band,maybe a cross between Opeth and Porcupine Tree. Great show,and a decent crowd.Remiss of me because they have left the country already.Anyway, Check them out.

By the way Rob W. Did you check out Diagonal? Any good? 
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on April 17, 2013, 12:11:42 AM
Yes I did akko. Courtesy of Oakers (thanks again), enjoyed the CD, but thought nothing overly special, and reminded me of Mostly Autumn. More I've listened to it, though, more I've enjoyed it. Would love to see them at a gig. 
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: akko on April 17, 2013, 01:01:03 AM
Me too, although I don't think they play many gigs.Anyway ,check out Riverside.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on April 18, 2013, 04:55:31 PM
I've seen Riverside twice at their first ever gig in this country at Lydney Town Hall and at Bilston at The Robin 2 supported by the tremendous Pineapple Thief  :)
I must disagree that they sound like Mostly Autumn as I don't really like Mostly Autumn but I really like Riverside!  :o 
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Allan Heron on April 18, 2013, 05:10:42 PM
I think it was Diagonal that Rob was saying sounded like Mostly Autumn.   Not a comparision I'd have thought of, to be honest.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on April 18, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
I think it was Diagonal that Rob was saying sounded like Mostly Autumn.   Not a comparision I'd have thought of, to be honest.

Yes it was and neither would I. But I did, and still do.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on April 19, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
DOH I must be getting old!  :o
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on May 13, 2013, 04:05:24 PM
Shrine of New Generation Slaves is a stupendous album! Very impressed and will be digging deeper in due course.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: akko on May 13, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
Glad you enjoyed it Oakers. I've heard another couple of their albums as well.Second Life Syndrome from 2005 and Rapid Eye Movement from 2007. Both of them rather good.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on May 14, 2013, 04:08:52 PM
"Rapid Eye Movement" (The two disc version) is my fave but "Anno Domini High definition" is a close second I haven't had a chance to listen to the new one yet as I'm skint  :(
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on May 23, 2013, 11:54:21 AM
We haven't talked nearly enough about this band. I'm very conscious of my tendency to get all evangelical when I hear something I really like. I've tried to hold back but it's no use...so there's the 'soap box' warning for those wish to tune out now...or be ready with a giant pinch of salt.
When I began my typically belated foray into the field of contemporary prog' (embarrassingly recently)...I was pleasantly surprised by Porcupine Tree and The Pineapple Thief, very impressed by Steven Wilson's recent stuff and the Lifesigns debut, and blown away by Crippled Black Phoenix.
Riverside's 'New Generation Slaves' however, is not merely 'stupendous,' as per my initial verdict. It is a modern masterpiece. It has been in near uninterrupted play on my car stereo now for three weeks...and my enjoyment is yet to wane by the tiniest degree.
Every note, every lyric, every instrumental, every technological audio effect,  every PP and every FF have been deployed - it seems to me - with optimum craftsmanship. There are more hooks than you'll find in a sizeable curtain shop, tracks that grab you instantly and others that work on you more subtly. I now love each and every one, but oh how I would love to see two in particular - 'Deprived' and the second bonus track 'Night Sessions 2' performed live.
Haven't bought the rest of their stuff yet - it really can't be as good as this one, can it? If it is, that's me sorted indefinitely.
In summary then - I like it a lot, and that man Akko has now acquired God-like status in my eyes. Cannot thank him enough.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on May 23, 2013, 03:51:24 PM
Oakers my friend if you are wanting to listen to some more of what is being called post prog you could do worse than have a listen to the US Band, Days Between Stations, Bruce Soord (Pineapple Thief) helped them out on their debut which I have and the second album is just out after five years in the making "In Extremis" with a host of special guests including Rick Wakeman, Pete Banks, Billy Sherwood (Yes) and Colin Moulding (XTC) and Tony Levin, apparently it is second in the Amazon progressive Rock download chart!  :)     
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on May 24, 2013, 01:26:21 PM
Is there no end to these riches? I will add them to my shopping basket, but it may be a few weeks before I can press the 'Order' button. Have just bought two more Riversides and still have a Big Big Train to catch! Thanks Halfamix.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on May 24, 2013, 04:53:16 PM
No problem mate, its always nice to hunt out quality sounds  :) May I also recommend the new "Wisdom of Crowds" album although its not out yet (although I have heard some of it) a collaboration between Bruce Soord (The Pineapple Thief) and Jonas Renkse (Katatonia) there is a big article and a track from it on the free cd in the new issue of Prog (issue 36)  8)
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on June 03, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
It took just two spins to get me hooked on Second Life Syndrome - guitar much more to the fore on this one.
Rapid Eye Movement took a lot longer. In fact it wasn't until about the seventh rotation on the way into work today, that it registered fully, which is almost certainly a sign that this one will end up being my favourite. Both albums a little darker and heavier than 'Shrine,' but overall I'm still in absolute awe of this band.
Further purchases postponed in deference to Hawkwind and Big Big Train though. Told you I'd get to them eventually Allan! Will let you know my thoughts as soon as I've received and played a few times.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on June 04, 2013, 11:51:35 PM
Right then, these Riverside people. Riverside... firstly I thought of a load of Irish people tap dancing. Then I thought of the home of Middsboro FC and not as well known, except round these parts, but also the home of Ramsbottom United. Incidentally, I used to go out with a Miss Ramsbottom, which unfortunately for me was an adjective!!

Oakers the Legend. The sender to me ,unrequested, always the best way, of a Riverside album, nicely packaged in a way Valerie Singleton and John Noakes would be proud. But, sorry, not a fan at all. And it won't grow on me as the Mostly Autumn sounding Diagonal did. Sorry!

And Oakers, when you go to the trouble and expense of purchasing a mobile phone. When it goes 'briiiiing briiiiing', pick it up, press the little button with a picture of a phone on, and speaking into the phone, say "Hello Oakers speaking". Amazingly, the other person will then speak to you. That's how it works.... :)

What a self indulgent post, but that's prog rock message boards for you!
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on June 05, 2013, 01:11:39 PM
I know we're all different, but I point-blank refuse to accept your write-off based on one spin only!
Anything with more depth to it than a Cliff Richards album requires at least three listens before being consigned to the 'not for me' pile.
Golden rule mate. I look forward to your consumption of humble pie once the penny drops...or vice versa whichever may be the case!
Had a similarly disappointing reaction from another music pal...but he also listened only once, and now he's also sampled 'Second Life Syndrome' he's realised how wrong he was and wants to borrow 'Shrine' again. I'm going to keep him dangling.
As regards the mobile phone...so that's how it works! I've always regarded it as a device to keep safely out of earshot and reach in order to avoid being pressed into out-of-normal-hours professional duty! Actually...I generally answer it when it rings between 9am and 5pm.
Left it in a drawer in the office last night!
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on June 08, 2013, 08:43:54 PM
In deference to Lord Oakers of Mark, I have listened to the album twice. Other than I think track 10, which in my humble opinion, is the first time, the band 'stretch' themselves into a lovely jazzy type number, everything is straight forward rock, from the opening track's Black Sabbath riff. Nothing out of the ordinary as I see it. Shows how different we all can be. Certainly surprised you are that much taken by Riverside.

On a related note, interesting Oakers mentions  this and on another thread about getting into an album after 3 spins or so. I'm sure we've discussed this before on these boards, but generally speaking, should the everyday punter have to play an album 3 times or more to enjoy it? I'm sure we all have albums that the more times we listen to them, the better they sound (first time I heard BGTY thought I won't be listening to tjat again, now my favourite! But what is the protocol here? If I hear my daughter's *dele album, should I listen to that 3 times before dismissing it? My thoughts are one instinctively knows immediately whether they like an album. Then the more listens, the more we may see in the album. Or am I just very shallow?
:))
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on June 10, 2013, 10:49:46 AM
You are right of course. I guess what I mean is...if it's in a genre you favour and it's sufficiently complex to be a potential grower, then it should be aired three times minimum. It was Steely Dan who taught me this lesson. I absolutely loved Can't Buy A Thrill...couldn't get Pretzel Logic off the turntable and thought Countdown To Ecstasy was pure gold. Then Katy Lied came out, and after playing it once I convinced myself they'd mislaid the pixie dust...and I just abandoned them. I gave Gaucho and Aja the similar once-only treatment which merely served to confirm my worst fears...or so I thought. Then 20 years after putting Katy Lied aside, another Dan fan persauded me to listen again. It took just a couple more plays to open my eyes, and to have me re-visiting all the subsequent Dan albums. I now realise that far from having lost their way...they continued to improve. It took 'six' spins of Everything Must Go for it to permeate, but it's their finest work. Sadly, almost every time one of those early Dan tracks comes on at a gig venue I hear other music fans commenting how good they were in the early days and what a shame it is they 'lost it.'
Re' Riverside. The more I listen the more convinced I am that I haven't heard anything better in the last 30 years. The musicianship and vocals are great (I think the percussion is particularly outstanding throughout), but in the end it's all down to melody...and the crucial difference for me between these guys and many other exceptional bands, is that they infuse almost every track with multiple infectious melodies that just continue to grow and grow on you with each airing. T'would be a dull world if we were all the same, of course...but when something impresses me this much I always struggle to accept that others won't necessarily agree. Doesn't mean I don't still think your a top bloke though Rob!
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: William Rait on June 10, 2013, 04:00:43 PM
I AGREE WITH YOU BOTH!!! Certainly, Oakers , you make a very valid point about how we form views and then, like crabs , we cling to them tenaciously with the litttle grasping claws in our minds. However, we have changed over time and our views may well no longer be relevant and we may now think quite the opposite. Aren't minds wonderful. A case in poit for me is a newly discovered love of the Grateful Dead. When young I liked Truckin' Casey Jones and Uncle John's Band and was underwhelmed by the rest, despite repeated attempts by my friend Ronnie. Now, I'm downloadin' albums all over the place ;D Maybe, I'll listen to this Riverside after all.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on June 10, 2013, 05:30:26 PM
Hey Oakers...

and one for Pete T as well.


I've just listened to 'Kangaroo'  7 consecutive times.


It's still sh*te I'm afraid......

 ;D

 
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: William Rait on June 10, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
Hey Oakers...

and one for Pete T as well.


I've just listened to 'Kangaroo'  7 consecutive times.


It's still sh*te I'm afraid......

 ;D

 
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D AND LAUGHABLY BAD
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on June 10, 2013, 06:00:02 PM
Hey Oakers...

and one for Pete T as well.


I've just listened to 'Kangaroo'  7 consecutive times.


It's still sh*te I'm afraid......


 ;D

 

There's one thing we agree on then Rob.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on June 10, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
On a more serious note,  probably much to Oakers chagrin (sorry pal),  I think we both agree!

And I did conveniently ignore your reference to Cliff Richard within your earlier post, which was equivalent to my comparison with Adele.

Now Middle of the Road I would listen to consecutively all day and all night every day and every night.

Providing it's a DVD taken with early 70's footage.

Mind you, just a photo will do.     ;)

 


 



Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Arjayay on June 10, 2013, 07:46:36 PM
Like this one in black and white?
She is 68 now 
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mike Morgan on June 10, 2013, 11:41:21 PM
68?  But how old is Rob W?
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Allan Heron on June 11, 2013, 11:57:31 AM
Rob's just waiting for her to be a year older  ::)

Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on June 11, 2013, 02:42:22 PM
Great photo, RJA.

I see she was pole dancing in the early 70's . Trend setter or what?

Sorry Allan. 68 is a little too old for me, now, never mind waiting another year. Why would I want to do that?  Allan?

By the way, a bit off topic. But does anybody think that people who retire before they reach age 60 are 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rds'?

Which incidentally is what my missus used to call me. My kids grew up thinking it was a job

 ;D   

(Thank you Roy Chubby Brown)



   
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Allan Heron on June 11, 2013, 02:55:50 PM
By the way, a bit off topic. But does anybody think that people who retire before they reach age 60 are 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rds'?

Yup  8)
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Pete T on June 12, 2013, 12:45:35 AM
By the way, a bit off topic. But does anybody think that people who retire before they reach age 60 are 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rds'?

Nope, stopped working at 50, and probably working harder now for myself on the croft, than I ever did at work.. Different work really, this is a lot more physical.. Just waiting for the pension to kick in in five years time..
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Dave Bardsley on June 12, 2013, 10:01:59 AM

By the way, a bit off topic. But does anybody think that people who retire before they reach age 60 are 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rds'?


Of course you are absolutely right.  I was made redundant at 58 and stayed that way until I was 60.  Then I retired.  Now I am a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd' who has to wait until 65 to get a state pension while Mrs. Dave got hers at 60, while she was still at work.  The whole bloody world is unfair...
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on June 12, 2013, 11:02:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA7fNZuzFFc

The first track alone should be enough...
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on June 12, 2013, 12:21:08 PM

By the way, a bit off topic. But does anybody think that people who retire before they reach age 60 are 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rds'?


Of course you are absolutely right.  I was made redundant at 58 and stayed that way until I was 60.  Then I retired.  Now I am a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd' who has to wait until 65 to get a state pension while Mrs. Dave got hers at 60, while she was still at work.  The whole bloody world is unfair...

Actually, Mr Dave. Technically, you are not a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd' because you didn't retire before age 60.

That said, I have it on good authority, you were a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd'  anyway.

 ;D   ;D    ;D    ;D

 



Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Tel on June 12, 2013, 02:15:56 PM

By the way, a bit off topic. But does anybody think that people who retire before they reach age 60 are 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rds'?


Of course you are absolutely right.  I was made redundant at 58 and stayed that way until I was 60.  Then I retired.  Now I am a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd' who has to wait until 65 to get a state pension while Mrs. Dave got hers at 60, while she was still at work.  The whole bloody world is unfair...

Actually, Mr Dave. Technically, you are not a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd' because you didn't retire before age 60.

That said, I have it on good authority, you were a 'lazy bone idle good for nothing b*st*rd'  anyway.

 ;D   ;D    ;D    ;D

But isn't it a great catch 22.

The Governemnt is upping the retirement age and as of today over 1,000,000 people over retirment age are in work.

But we have a problem with "youth" unemployment and not enough jobs to go round. Is that because the Governemnt is upping the retirement age and as of today over 1,000,000 people over retirment age are in work?

Are there potentially 1,000,000 jobs that could be available for people under retirment age. Might that make a slight difference to the unemploment figures?
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on August 02, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
Just for Rob W.

Here's where you can add your vote for Riverside in Progressive Rock's 'Breakthrough' category.
http://awards.progrockmag.com/awards/breakthrough-artist

Slightly ironic nomination, given that they've been around since 2001.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on August 02, 2013, 04:23:25 PM
Just for Rob W.

Here's where you can add your vote for Riverside in Progressive Rock's 'Breakthrough' category.
http://awards.progrockmag.com/awards/breakthrough-artist

Slightly ironic nomination, given that they've been around since 2001.

Presuming you've read my response to your other post.

Not only are you a Lazy F*ck*ng B*st*rd

You

are

also

a

Sarcastic F*ck*ng B*st*rd




(please don't beat my head in when you see me)

 
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on April 03, 2014, 06:08:35 PM
Playing Manchester on Sunday coming.

I shall be there.

Unless it's very sunny and I'm off in the hills somewhere....

(By the way, revisiting this topic to post this message, and I see the above post. Hmmmmm!! Even my eyes popped out of my head. Sorry Oakers my boy. Don't know what warranted that outburst. Bu I'm sure you deserved it. You will if the gig's no good!! )   ;D   
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on April 07, 2014, 09:57:01 AM
Given that I've waxed lyrical about this band several times...and love pretty much their entire output to date, nobody will be surprised to learn that I was blown away by the live performance at Islington O2 Academy on Friday. The word is certainly out on these guys! We were expecting to be in the smaller 250 capacity venue, but were in the larger 800 arena...which was already jammed solid when we rolled up at 7pm. The stallar musicians on stage are evidently pinching themselves on this score too...'makes us feel like celebrities' was the comment from lead member (bass and vocalist) Marius Dzouda. A bonus for me was being able to pick up the Reality Dream DVD for 15 (I haven't been able to find it online for less than 130 for some reason). It's a very fine production and enabled me to enjoy a second live show, plus bonus material almost amounting to a third...from the comfort of my own sofa over the weekend. Don't miss 'em if they're in your area...

I await Rob W's counter-impressions from last  night's  Manchester show (assuming he made it)...with some trepidation.
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on April 07, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
Oakers, I'm ashamed to say I didn't make it...

I was making it until about 4pm. I even did the following on Sunday morning:-

* checked the website to ensure the gig was on the day, thanks to your worrying text that I 'd got it wrong
* phoned a pal to see if he fancied going. Which he didn't, but no bother
* finally took off the Alkies CD and put on Riverside cos it's nice if you recognise a song
* came home early to tidy up, and do my washing and ironing (I'd make somebody a lovely wife)

Then I got a phone call asking me for a favour. A big favour. Which if I'd pre-purchased tickets I couldn't have done, but since I hadn't, I said "yes, of course".

Please don't think I'm a false so and so. I was going, and looking forwards to going. Mostly for the gig. But also to slaughter you on the Message Board .  Next time!!   
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Mark Oakley on April 07, 2014, 05:49:58 PM
...in which case I'll settle for a much more sympathetic follow-up (I would imagine) from Halfamix ...after tomorrow's Bristol gig.

I kinda guessed from the absence of any text to the effect, that you hadn't managed it Rob. Just hope the recipient of that favour appreciates the scale of the sacrifice you made.

(Left a perfect opening there for you...did you notice?)
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on April 07, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
The halfamix is on the guest list for Riverside in Bristol tomorrow, I have a +1 aswell but no one seems to want to come with me!!
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: Rob W on April 07, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
...in which case I'll settle for a much more sympathetic follow-up (I would imagine) from Halfamix ...after tomorrow's Bristol gig.

I kinda guessed from the absence of any text to the effect, that you hadn't managed it Rob. Just hope the recipient of that favour appreciates the scale of the sacrifice you made.

(Left a perfect opening there for you...did you notice?)

The text or more to the point, phone call, will be on its way after work. Just thought I'd respond to your post. No bottling it from my side. I really am sorry didn't go.

Now if halfamix charters me a plane, will only be 30 mins to Bristol. I'll be the +1. We can go as oneandahalfamix. Or the dolly mixtures perhaps   :o
Title: Re: Riverside
Post by: halfamix on April 11, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
Saw Riverside in Bristol Tuesday night, now this is the third time I've seen them and to be frank I didn't enjoy them as much as I have previously! This could be because I've not got the latest album and that is what they mainly played but the support band Votum really floated my boat so am going to have to do some research into them  :)