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Title: Fish
Post by: akko on October 03, 2013, 10:54:15 PM
Just bought the new Fish album "A Feast Of Consequences". I hadn't heard him for some years,but as he is appearing at Leamington Spa in November I thought I'd check him out. It's very good indeed.Great sound and production.Long sprawling songs that ebb and flow played by a fine band.You can hear samples and buy the album only on his website. Go check it out.It should appeal to many visitors to the Manband Archive.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on October 21, 2013, 11:43:34 AM
I'll see your Fish album and raise you a 'March of Ghosts' by Norwegian prog' band Gazpacho. Should warn however that if your music has to have 'balls' this may not suit. It has its gutsy moments but is predominantly mellow...a real 'pipe and slippers' experience, with liberal use of strings giving it an orchestral aspect in places. After a few spins however I personally find it a very enjoyable listen. Incidentally, that Sanguiine Hum album I mentioned a while back is worth investigating too. It's continuing to grow on me, and in retrospect I withdraw my original reservatiions re' the vocals. Loved CBP's Posnan double by the way. Plenty of 'balls' in that performance...and I will deifinitely check out the new Fish album.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Akeno-Pool on October 21, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
He played a very odd gig in Lima when we lived in Peru.
Lots of teenagers who sang every word.
Cant say my memories were that clear. Remember Santana played the following week whic I think was amazing.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Andy T on November 15, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
I would recommend catching Mr Fish live at a club near you this year.  I saw his Feast of Consequences show in Paris last week and it was a blinder.    The guitarist Robin Boult was phenomenal and easily made up for some of Fish's cringing sixth form prose.  It's a great cd and live show and highly recommended; have already got my tickets for his gig at the Globe in Cardiff.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Allan Heron on November 15, 2013, 11:58:34 AM
I'll see your Fish album and raise you a 'March of Ghosts' by Norwegian prog' band Gazpacho.

Found this to be a bit cold
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 15, 2013, 01:01:59 PM
I'll see your Fish album and raise you a 'March of Ghosts' by Norwegian prog' band Gazpacho.

Found this to be a bit cold

Acquired taste I think! Earlier album Tick Tock a bit more accessible.
Just got the Fish album!
PS. Have you checked out the Cosmograf (Robin Armstrong) album 'Man They Left In Space' with the two BBT guys guesting (Nick D'Virgilio and Greg Spawton). Also nice stuff.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Allan Heron on November 15, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
Acquired taste I think! Earlier album Tick Tock a bit more accessible.
Just got the Fish album!
PS. Have you checked out the Cosmograf (Robin Armstrong) album 'Man They Left In Space' with the two BBT guys guesting (Nick D'Virgilio and Greg Spawton). Also nice stuff.

I think that counts as a "whoosh" moment.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazpacho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazpacho))

Haven't heard the Cosmograf album - will check out to see if it's on Spotify.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Michael Heatley on November 15, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
I blame Jamie fucking Oliver...
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Rob W on November 15, 2013, 10:46:06 PM
Oakers - schoolboy error !

In the Manboard colossus stakes, it's now Allan 1 v Oakers 0

PS Mark, still not grasped mobiles have you? :))
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 18, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
Oh for F***'s sake!
Of course I got the pun...just assumed it was Alan's clever way of offering a verdict on the music as well.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mike Morgan on November 18, 2013, 07:46:22 PM
I blame Jamie fucking Oliver...

Who is Oliver and why is Jamie fucking him?
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Allan Heron on November 19, 2013, 12:07:09 PM
Oh for F***'s sake!
Of course I got the pun...just assumed it was Alan's clever way of offering a verdict on the music as well.

You should know by now that I don't do clever ;-)
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 20, 2013, 12:18:52 PM
Oh for F***'s sake!
Of course I got the pun...just assumed it was Alan's clever way of offering a verdict on the music as well.

You should know by now that I don't do clever ;-)

I will confess however that the 'Whoosh!' comment did initially...go right over my head!
I am embarrassed by the way, that Rob seems to afford us even remotely mutual authority in the area of musical knowledge. I am in no doubt that you have forgotten more than I have yet learned.  'Pebble v Colossus'...would probably be a fairer analogy.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 25, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
The unthinkable has happened. Akko and I are not quite in accord on this one.
Have given 'Feast Of Consequences' every chance...but after several spins can find very little to commend it. Quite like 'The Other Side of Me,' but the rest is, I find, a fairly tuneless dirge...and I'm sure that for most of The High Wood sequence he's plagiarised at least a couple of popular folk tunes (couldn't tell you what they are - just know I've heard them before). Just shows that no two listeners hear quite the same thing, but it doesn't alter the 'hero' status of the man who alerted me to Crippled Black Phoenix and the truly wondrous Riverside!
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: halfamix on November 25, 2013, 05:02:07 PM
If you can ever get to see Riverside, do! I saw them at their first ever gig in this country at Lydney Town Hall (Where they hold The Summers End Festival) and they were brilliant and I saw them also at The Robin 2 with the truly sublime band that are The Pineapple Thief  :) 
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 25, 2013, 06:55:23 PM
If you can ever get to see Riverside, do! I saw them at their first ever gig in this country at Lydney Town Hall (Where they hold The Summers End Festival) and they were brilliant and I saw them also at The Robin 2 with the truly sublime band that are The Pineapple Thief  :)

Fear not! There's a group of about eight of us in sleepy Dorset eagerly awaiting the next tour. All are willing to travel to the 'big smoke' if necessary...maybe even overseas! I should listen to some more Pineapple Thief I think. Have got 'All The Wars' and 'Variations on A Dream' so far. What should I sample next? Which album is their best would you say?
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Barry Island on November 25, 2013, 10:06:30 PM
While we are discussing Jamie Oliver can I just say ' Bish Bash Bosh'
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mike Morgan on November 26, 2013, 12:11:00 AM
A seamless link to an irrelevant seven day old post.  Well done that man ;)

But. Can I say that? No man is an Island :D
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Allan Heron on November 26, 2013, 12:42:19 AM
Haven't heard the Cosmograf album - will check out to see if it's on Spotify.

Gave this a listen today.  Quite enjoyed it although it was one of these albums where you ticked off the band's they sounded like as you progressed through the tracks.  Some good and quite literal space rock though.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 26, 2013, 05:46:35 PM


Gave this a listen today.  Quite enjoyed it although it was one of these albums where you ticked off the band's they sounded like as you progressed through the tracks.  Some good and quite literal space rock though.
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Yes there are very few offerings which can boast total originality...with Genesis and Floyd generally being the most obvious sources. Some though, Big Big Train, Riverside, Sanguine Hum amongst them...are also making their own distinctive mark. There's so much going on in this genre at present it's pretty overwhelming. The Flower Kings are going to have to be checked out I think...and this one also sounds very interesting...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionaut .  The reviews are certainly very positive, and an interesting family connection too!
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: halfamix on November 26, 2013, 06:46:36 PM
I have The Sound of Contact album "Dimensionaut" and its good and well worth a listen, on The Pineapple Thief front try the last but one album "Someone Here is Missing" its one of my faves although all there albums are worth a listen!  8)
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Rob W on November 26, 2013, 08:03:06 PM


Gave this a listen today.  Quite enjoyed it although it was one of these albums where you ticked off the band's they sounded like as you progressed through the tracks.  Some good and quite literal space rock though.

Yes there are very few offerings which can boast total originality...with Genesis and Floyd generally being the most obvious sources. Some though, Big Big Train, Riverside, Sanguine Hum amongst them...are also making their own distinctive mark. There's so much going on in this genre at present it's pretty overwhelming. The Flower Kings are going to have to be checked out I think...and this one also sounds very interesting...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionaut .  The reviews are certainly very positive, and an interesting family connection too!
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Now that's more like it, Mr Oakley    ;)
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Barry Island on November 27, 2013, 09:54:11 PM
Alright a more relevant quote than my previous Jamie Oliver one from the man himself.

'I've got used to signing autographs for 13 year old Kayleighs.'
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Barry Island on November 27, 2013, 10:48:18 PM
Can I recommend the link below for Pineapple Thief - Checked them out after hearing about them on here and found this very enjoyable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0AasJWRS4I
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Barry Island on November 27, 2013, 10:50:11 PM
Last one - if anyone has read Espedair Street by Iain M Banks did they picture the main character as Fish?
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Allan Heron on November 28, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
Last one - if anyone has read Espedair Street by Iain M Banks did they picture the main character as Fish?

I drive along Espedair Street regularly.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Barry Island on November 28, 2013, 08:32:49 PM
A positive experience? The book isn't one of his best but is very entertaining and features a Scottish rock singer as the main character as far as I can recall.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Mark Oakley on November 29, 2013, 10:47:07 AM

Fear not! There's a group of about eight of us in sleepy Dorset eagerly awaiting the next tour. All are willing to travel to the 'big smoke' if necessary...maybe even overseas! I should listen to some more Pineapple Thief I think. Have got 'All The Wars' and 'Variations on A Dream' so far. What should I sample next? Which album is their best would you say?
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It's almost as if I willed it! New Riverside dates just announced next April...in London, Bristol, Woverhampton (Robin 2), Edinburgh...and Manchester. Rob can go along to the latter and hurl abuse.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Allan Heron on November 29, 2013, 06:58:24 PM
A positive experience? The book isn't one of his best but is very entertaining and features a Scottish rock singer as the main character as far as I can recall.

Nah - it's just a plain backstreet in Paisley.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-16190808.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-16190808.html)
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Barry Island on November 29, 2013, 07:31:30 PM
Cool - thanks for the link Allan. I can now picture it far better. This may be an idea for us to take up - links to rock related highways and byeways. I think it is time for an image of Scotch Corner. Reckon the link below will show some relevant pics from around the Man song of the same name. Don't know what inspired the song but is one of my favourites.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=scotch+corner&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=886YUo-KIcmUhQf3jYHoDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=620#facrc=_&imgdii=1Cs438V2hHqs-M%3A%3BF9dv7WYE5p_5oM%3B1Cs438V2hHqs-M%3A&imgrc=1Cs438V2hHqs-M%3A%3BJYSwg6t7izm0RM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.motorwayservices.info%252Fimages%252F216.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.motorwayservices.info%252Fscotch_corner_services_a1_m%3B400%3B296
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: rockprof on November 29, 2013, 10:26:13 PM
Was most confused by the place as a child. It was a big roundabout, a long way from Scotland....