Man 1975 on Wolfgang's Vault

[Allan Heron]

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/man-concert/2445-4376.html

[Tony Smith]

Hey Allan , is there anyway that the Wolfgangs vault can be downloaded, ive looked but can't find away
cheers
tony

[Rob W]

I have wolfgangs vault and they email me every week with the latest gigs. Being heavily a Winterland thing, I was always disappointed there was never any Man. I didn't know of this, though, until our Scottish correspondent who lives in the land of grey and pink, made that post. 

[John Bannon]

It's good to see Man concerts finally making onto Wolfgang's Vault, they have lot's of nice Man posters.....if you can afford their prices.
Can I be the first to say, I'm not overly impressed with the Jam with John Cippolina, may have had his day by 1975, especially when you hear reports of Micky overdubbing bits of Maximum Darkness in 1974. Don't get me wrong love his work with QSMS in the late 60's and early 70's and that should be respected. Lets not look through rose tinted glasses though.
Brings me onto another subject, maybe this should be under other bands, people have been putting up favourite music to listen to, The Grateful Dead being very prominent in this section, Is it me, I have a mate that every other day put's yet another CD through the letterbox ordering me to listen to yet another release by them, I've been forced to listen to everything barring farts and burps by this group and I still can't take to them, certain live bits of Dark Star are OK but the rest, it's very hard to bear. I took a lot of acid in my youth, but no amount of drugs would induce me to like that American folk/country pap, crap and any other word that rhymes, very middle of the road music they churned out. You wouldn't even hear this music in a Califorinian lift/elevator, would just bore too many people to death. Anybody that pretends to like this music and you must be pretending, can I remind you the Freak Train left town years ago and you should have been on it.
And while I'm mood, Safe as Milk (excellent),  Mirror Man (very good), Trout Mask Replica, one of the all time greatest albums, someone's having a laugh. I have played this over and over again, I really want to like it, feel out of conversations when people are extolling it's virtures and still can't get into one single track.
I know One Man's beef is another Man's poison and music is in the ear of the beholder.But let's be real!
Hopefully this will stir up a little bit of a debate, the forum's gone a little bit quite of late.
Hi Rob, Speak to you soon.

[Mike Cross]

Hey Allan , is there anyway that the Wolfgangs vault can be downloaded, ive looked but can't find away
cheers
tony

Even if they don't provide a direct download link, you can record the music as you listen to it online, using an appropriate piece of software eg Audacity (freeware,  http://audacity.sourceforge.net ) and then save it to your hard disc. You may need to select the correct sound source (eg Stereo Mixer, rather than Mic, Line In, CD In, etc) and adjust the recording level; this can usually be done via the control panel for your sound card. 

[Rob the Organ]

It's good to see Man concerts finally making onto Wolfgang's Vault, they have lot's of nice Man posters.....if you can afford their prices.
Can I be the first to say, I'm not overly impressed with the Jam with John Cippolina, may have had his day by 1975, especially when you hear reports of Micky overdubbing bits of Maximum Darkness in 1974. Don't get me wrong love his work with QSMS in the late 60's and early 70's and that should be respected. Lets not look through rose tinted glasses though.
Brings me onto another subject, maybe this should be under other bands, people have been putting up favourite music to listen to, The Grateful Dead being very prominent in this section, Is it me, I have a mate that every other day put's yet another CD through the letterbox ordering me to listen to yet another release by them, I've been forced to listen to everything barring farts and burps by this group and I still can't take to them, certain live bits of Dark Star are OK but the rest, it's very hard to bear. I took a lot of acid in my youth, but no amount of drugs would induce me to like that American folk/country pap, crap and any other word that rhymes, very middle of the road music they churned out. You wouldn't even hear this music in a Califorinian lift/elevator, would just bore too many people to death. Anybody that pretends to like this music and you must be pretending, can I remind you the Freak Train left town years ago and you should have been on it.
And while I'm mood, Safe as Milk (excellent),  Mirror Man (very good), Trout Mask Replica, one of the all time greatest albums, someone's having a laugh. I have played this over and over again, I really want to like it, feel out of conversations when people are extolling it's virtures and still can't get into one single track.
I know One Man's beef is another Man's poison and music is in the ear of the beholder.But let's be real!
Hopefully this will stir up a little bit of a debate, the forum's gone a little bit quite of late.
Hi Rob, Speak to you soon.

Very true - a mate and I both love Frank Zappa. The difference being that (while I can dig it a little weirder than Hot Rats) I know when to call it a day, but my mate reckons that Lumpy Gravy is the best album ever made. Figure that!

[Allan Heron]

....but my mate reckons that Lumpy Gravy is the best album ever made. Figure that!

Some great singsongs to be had listening to that 

[Rob the Organ]

....but my mate reckons that Lumpy Gravy is the best album ever made. Figure that!

Some great singsongs to be had listening to that 

Oh aye. That and Spooky Tooth's ceremony and you're away!

[John Bannon]

Hi Rob, Grew up in a little town called Cwmbran in S. Wales and had a mate that could quote every single word from every Zappa LP in the early days, I would rate Hot Rats in anyone's top twenty LP's and with this bit of knowledge and a mate who idolized Zappa went out and bought Joe's Garage 1,2 &3, between the whole three LP's there must be about fifteen minutes of good music.

[Rob the Organ]

Hi Rob, Grew up in a little town called Cwmbran in S. Wales and had a mate that could quote every single word from every Zappa LP in the early days, I would rate Hot Rats in anyone's top twenty LP's and with this bit of knowledge and a mate who idolized Zappa went out and bought Joe's Garage 1,2 &3, between the whole three LP's there must be about fifteen minutes of good music.

If that.

I could probably whittle my Zappa collection down to a dozen essential LPs and bin off a few. ("What a good idea!" - Mrs Rob the Organ).
He's just like Tom Waits, Beefheart - up with the best when he's good but f***ing dreadful when slightly off the boil.

[Mike Cross]

Re: Zappa

I've loved Hot Rats ever since I first heard it 30-some years ago. I've dipped my toes in the Zappa/Mothers waters quite a few times over the years, encouraged by rave reviews of this or that album, and have never found another to match Hot Rats for quality and consistency.

eg Freak Out - the concise songs are great but the long ones bore me. Chunga's Revenge - mostly very good. Waka Jawaka, Grand Wazoo,  & Orchestral Favourites  - don't do much for me. Overnite Sensation - ho-hum.. Shut Up n Play Your Guitar - thought this worth a try as I do like his extended soloing but nah. Zoot Allures - a couple of v fine tracks but the rest just OK. Mothers Live at the Fillmore - nah.

Trout Mask Replica - never made it to the end of side 1!

The Dead - my first exposure was Workingman's Dead, which must have put me off for quite a while. I like Dark Star on Live Dead, but everything else I've heard just doesn't much for me, I'm afraid.

[Pete T]

The Grateful Dead being very prominent in this section, Is it me?

I like the Dead, mid and later albums drift a bit, but their first album, funnily enough called "Grateful Dead" is a stunning masterpiece. Easily equivalent to QMS's first..

[Rob the Organ]

Zappa:
Freak Out!
Absolutely Free
We're Only In It...
Uncle Meat
Hot Rats
Weasels...
Chungas
Fillmore 71
Just Another Band
Overnite Sensation
Apostrophe

Dead
1st (a masterpiece as earlier asserted)
Anthem of the Sun
Aoxomoxoa
Live Dead
Workingmans
American Beauty
Skull & Roses
Europe 72

These are albums I love by artists I love. I feel I love them enough to be able to say that, other than odd tracks here and there, the rest of either artists' (considerable) catalogue is pretty dire stuff and I have all the sympathy in the world for folks that hate either Frank or the Dead when they have cited certain albums as an introduction.

[Rob the Organ]

The Grateful Dead being very prominent in this section, Is it me?

I like the Dead, mid and later albums drift a bit, but their first album, funnily enough called "Grateful Dead" is a stunning masterpiece. Easily equivalent to QMS's first..

Hang on a minute, Pete. Your quote has made it look like ME that questions the Dead. It was John B!

[Allan Heron]

Wot!! No One Size Fits All in the best of Zappa