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Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« on: September 25, 2011, 11:31:41 PM »
I post this subject with huge trepidation and respect for what has gone before.

The thing which concerns me is the work which was done by MAN n the early 1970s which might not ever be heard again. Today I was listening to a CD-R prepared by the heroic Mr Pete T  of an early 1970s German gig with, amongst the gems, "The Cymbal That Came To Dinner", and I thought to myself something along the lines of "wouldn't it be great if this stuff was out there and performed in the way it should be".

Clearly the current MAN lineup won't be doing this stuff, so is there a possibility of putting together a band which could re-create the sounds of the early 1970s? I for one would pay quite a lot of money to see and hear the sounds of days gone.

Am I dreaming? Somebody shoot me down. Or better still, somebody go with the flow.
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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 11:51:44 PM »
WY's Misfits?

 

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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 12:06:34 AM »
Could Young Will step up to the mark? I'm sure he could.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 12:11:50 AM »
step up to the mark? He's well ahead of the game. Surely you've listened to the you tube video. Dec  17 maybe?? Fingers, toes, everything crossed.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 12:15:33 AM »
Yes indeed. Could his band do a passable version of "Would the Christians wait 5 Minutes, the Lions Are Having A Draw"? I'm sure they could. I hope so.
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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 01:43:58 AM »
I think this is what George was trying to do before being sacked by that bastard Ace.. Connnnents welconne..

 
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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 11:42:07 AM »
Today I was listening to a CD-R prepared by the heroic Mr Pete T  of an early 1970s German gig with, amongst the gems, "The Cymbal That Came To Dinner", and I thought to myself something along the lines of "wouldn't it be great if this stuff was out there and performed in the way it should be".

It's a funny old world, but it seems surprising that the current line up aren't doing more Phil songs - stuff like 'Cymbal' and 'Blunt' were in the set in the early days but subsequently dropped. Add material like 'Just For You' 'Something Is Happening' and 'Welsh Connection'.....personally I think it would give this line up a little more credability, as well as keeping things different from WY's Misfits who seem to be more geared towards recreating Will orientated stuff.  Good job too! 
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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 03:31:30 PM »
To a greater or lesser extent we have 3 Man tribute bands, Man, Son of Man and WYs Misfits. All have a link to the past but inevitably without Micky or Deke in any of these bands they will never be that authentic and for that reason to me at least will always be more like triute bands than the genuine article.

Actually Iceberg are probably the most authentic Man experience with 3/4 of the lineup and a fair amount of the setlist being ex/Man.

I guess the best that can be said about this situation is that you can chose which of the bands you want to see  depending on which flavour you prefer. With everything being so fragmented and with none of these bands playing live regularly its probably a better time than ever to revive the Swansea xmas party to bring a few of the strands together for one evening.

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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 03:54:46 PM »
To a greater or lesser extent we have 3 Man tribute bands, Man, Son of Man and WYs Misfits. All have a link to the past but inevitably without Micky or Deke in any of these bands they will never be that authentic and for that reason to me at least will always be more like triute bands than the genuine article.

Actually Iceberg are probably the most authentic Man experience with 3/4 of the lineup and a fair amount of the setlist being ex/Man.

I guess the best that can be said about this situation is that you can chose which of the bands you want to see  depending on which flavour you prefer. With everything being so fragmented and with none of these bands playing live regularly its probably a better time than ever to revive the Swansea xmas party to bring a few of the strands together for one evening.

Hey Gav, you're mellowing aren't you?  :)

Well I'd settle for 3 of the 4 bands mentioned above appearing together on Dec 17.   And although I am most firmly in one of the camps, I wonder what are the odds for 4/4 appearing together?  I did post a long time ago, that whatever the differences, and however justified, in the words of MJ, though written by Buzzy Linhart, "time is a healer". 

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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 02:26:55 AM »
I would love to see a Man covers band. Why not?

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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 09:56:44 AM »
..depends what you want Joan..

I could take up painting, and do a copy of the mona lisa. Would you pay to come and see it? I think you'ld feel let down and dissapointed if you were expecting to see the real thing.

Hey, any bunch of tossers can stand up and do a rendition of C'mon for 30 minutes, but would it ever be as good as if micky was playing it? I think not.. It's not just the music, the notes - it's style, character, pressence.. Nobody can re-create all of that..

I'd rather live with those wonderful, happy memories I have..

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 12:14:06 PM »
Hey Gav, you're mellowing aren't you?  :)

Well I'd settle for 3 of the 4 bands mentioned above appearing together on Dec 17.   And although I am most firmly in one of the camps, I wonder what are the odds for 4/4 appearing together?  I did post a long time ago, that whatever the differences, and however justified, in the words of MJ, though written by Buzzy Linhart, "time is a healer". 

And are we Wishbone Ash in disguise?

If were going to start quoting MJ lyrics I think "So long. It's all gone..." is probably more apt.

As regards a tribute band, it certainly wouldnt be financially viable given the audience nos for the official band in recent years (even when Micky and deke were still involved). Personally, I hate all tribute bands without exception so for that reason alone think it would be a terrible idea. Music is too special a commodity to be put in the hands of people who dont have any ideas of their own. Well I think so anyway, but each to their own, a lot of people seem to enjoy it and if a band has an audience they deserve to be heard or not as the case may be.

Anyway I did refer to Man, SOM and WYs Misfits as being to a greater or lesser extent tribute bands didnt I? No offence George, Bob, Will etc. I suppose at least SOM are writing new material which is commendable. And for that matter so are Man which is condemable (no thats not a typo) and Will is perfoming an LP on which he was a key songwriter which is fair enough.

I guess whatever is left of the Man family the main thing is to enjoy it while you can.
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Re: Do you think it's time to start a MAN tribute band?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2011, 01:23:54 PM »
I'm always in two minds about tribute bands.  On the one hand you want to see the artists that composed the music performing it but often, and for many reasons, they don't/can't do it anymore.    But it might still be good to be able to hear that in a live performance and what's to complain about that - many of these kinds of shows are put on by people who have a deep love of the music they're performing and that comes through in the shows that they put on.

At the end of the day, the London Symphony Orchestra or any other such outfit playing Beethoven, Bach, Mahler etc etc are no more than tribute outfits in those terms but they're never referred to as such.

Rather like rock music in general, many of the tribute bands won't stick but the major music of the past fifty years will still continue to be performed in a live context in as many years from now I suspect.

And, as I've said before, I hope that George and Bob choose a different name for their band other than Son of Man.   Notwithstanding any claim of veritas, I don't think it's a great name.    And I think there's other reasons to avoid it as well
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2011, 02:20:20 PM »
I'm always in two minds about tribute bands.  On the one hand you want to see the artists that composed the music performing it but often, and for many reasons, they don't/can't do it anymore.    But it might still be good to be able to hear that in a live performance and what's to complain about that - many of these kinds of shows are put on by people who have a deep love of the music they're performing and that comes through in the shows that they put on.

At the end of the day, the London Symphony Orchestra or any other such outfit playing Beethoven, Bach, Mahler etc etc are no more than tribute outfits in those terms but they're never referred to as such.

Rather like rock music in general, many of the tribute bands won't stick but the major music of the past fifty years will still continue to be performed in a live context in as many years from now I suspect.

And, as I've said before, I hope that George and Bob choose a different name for their band other than Son of Man.   Notwithstanding any claim of veritas, I don't think it's a great name.    And I think there's other reasons to avoid it as well

I'm not sure I agree with much of that. I think Beethoven, Bach, Mahler wrote music intending it to played by different orchestras, and the orchestra that first performed the pieces was probably not involved in the creative process anyway. Beethoven et al weren't part of bands per se or even the live performance in most cases so there is a fundamental difference. 

There is a harm in tribute bands in so much as that as that they take up a lot of slots at small music venues that 20 years ago would have been taken up by bands performing original music. Bands like er Man for a start. I know theres an argument that the tribute bands keep these venues going as they draw in the punters but Im not sure I buy that. Live music is going through something of a renaissance at the moment and if bands playing original music were promoted properly people would come, perhaps?

For every tribute band that is born out of love there are several that are strictly corporate entities. At its worse this results in the likes of the "Bjorn Again" franchise or the bunch or ar**holes that call them themselves the "Australian Pink Floyd"

It puts me in mind of a recent Pete Townsend quote were he said "I'm glad my career has been as an artist rather than an entertainer. Any c*nt can be an entertainer". It sounds a little pretentious but I understand exactly where he is coming from. There is just something more exciting and worthwile about bands that write and perform their own music. For me anyway.

Georges band are called "Son of Man" at least they were at the memorial concert last year and unless George advises otherwise will be called that on the DVD of the concert. I think for what they are trying to achieve its quite a good name. Theres actually an American band called "Son of Man" as well. I think in their case with no Manband connotations its a pretty good name. I think as regards veritas its a lot more honest than Ace Ryan and the indie kids calling themselves Man. Trying to think objectively which is difficult, if I were a casual fan who'd only seen them occaisionally in the past I'd feel a bit ripped off to be honest.

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2011, 03:00:09 PM »
It's an interesting point, Gav and Allan - although personally I think you can really only compare like with like - in many cases classical composers were commissioned to write their material for a specific purpose.

I don't consider Will's band to be a Man tribute band - after all, with the exception of their version of Spunk Rock, he did write/co-write all the stuff they perform, including the Alkatraz and Neutrons numbers -  And he's not calling it Man!

Otherwise.....tribute bands yeuch. I'm not keen on people basking in reflected glory. (Yes I know I've said that twice recently, just not on the board that's all...) 

 
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