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Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« on: August 16, 2012, 10:06:52 AM »
Having a rummage and clear out and came across this poster. Man supported by Fat Grapple at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, March 2, year not confirmed.

Admission was 65p so would have been after decimalisation (Feb 15 1971). Checked in Mannerisms - no gig listed for March 2 1971 so it could be that year....in 1972 they were playing in Newport on that day. No gig listed for that day in 1973 and the admission price was about average for that period, so I'm going for 1973 making it the BGTY line up.

Fat Grapple were a band from Newcastle so perhaps 'our' Stevie can fill in some details. Eddie Jobson was among their number for a while.   

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 12:34:10 PM »
Having a rummage and clear out and came across this poster. Man supported by Fat Grapple at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, March 2, year not confirmed.

Admission was 65p so would have been after decimalisation (Feb 15 1971). Checked in Mannerisms - no gig listed for March 2 1971 so it could be that year....in 1972 they were playing in Newport on that day. No gig listed for that day in 1973 and the admission price was about average for that period, so I'm going for 1973 making it the BGTY line up.

Fat Grapple were a band from Newcastle so perhaps 'our' Stevie can fill in some details. Eddie Jobson was among their number for a while.

You're right Mr N. - it was 1973, and the gig was from a short run of dates with Fat Grapple as support.  It must have been a late addition as it wasn't listed on the attached advert for the other gigs.

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 01:57:48 PM »
Further rummage - three more posters not on the Manband Archive, apologies for the poor quality - here's one for the Neutrons second album:
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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 02:03:51 PM »
....and from the tour promoting 'Slow Motion' (whose release was delayed):
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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 02:06:23 PM »
...and the familiar '1999 Party' with Mssrs Hawkwind and 'Android' Dunkley.
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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 04:32:09 AM »
Nice work Nick, I'd never seen nor heard of the Man/Fat Grapple poster before and it's a real nice one.  I've got the Neutrons and 1999 posters, but I've only seen pics of the Slow Motion with sun poster and I know of only one person who actually has it (I'm looking at you JB!).

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 02:34:32 PM »
The poster with the sun as Brian would know was put together when United Artistes got cold feet and thought they were going to be sued by the Mad magazines publishing company, the original U/A poster looked like this.....

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 07:49:57 PM »
The poster with the sun as Brian would know was put together when United Artistes got cold feet and thought they were going to be sued by the Mad magazines publishing company, the original U/A poster looked like this.....

Nice one John. Shame they didn't use it, shame they didn't use the original sleeve design...oh difficult era, how so near yet how so far, etc and also etc. My poster was one that Spiv (crucially without beard) unceremoniously ripped off from the naff display provided by a slightly embarrassed UA at the Adelphi following the non-appearance of the album that tour was supposed to be promoting. He offered one to Mick Box who stared at him bemused. Spiv's response, and I think I've got this verbatim, was 'Ohh, you're just a heap'. Are you enjoying this trip down memory lane? It's the years afterwards that are a bit of a blank.

Which leads us neatly to our next example resulting from Operation Rummage. This is one that Joan may particularly appreciate as it mainly concerns our drumming chum El Tel....a ticket for Dave Edmunds Rockpile at the London School of Economics in 1977 supported by Plummet Airlines, for whom Malcolm Morley was an occasional performer, but unfortunately not this time - and curiously in speech marks, an unknown band at the time called "Ultravox", this being the version before the Midge Ure era.  The Rockpile set included Elvis's 'A Mess Of Blues', 'I Hear You Knocking', 'Heart Of The City' and stuff off the 'Get It' album. Can't be certain, but I don't think TW included the speeding up drum roll (as in at the end of 'MACBFGU') on 'Heart Of The City' at that stage - I think that first appeared on the Stiffs tour in due course. Wonder who suggested it?       

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 10:17:31 AM »
Nice ticket !  ;)
Listening to a 10-24-1978 NYC show.
Terry does that Heart of the city speeding up drum roll. Don't know when he started and stopped doing it.

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 07:15:56 PM »
And now....hmmm, you might not think this one is very interesting...a scan of a cheap and nasty ticket with little information, no mention of a support band who were small at the time and became world famous, no snappy logo....on the other hand I can safely say that I have an Alkatraz ticket (during their golden years, 1977 - 1977) a rather rare artefact, so what's your excuse?

Again, the Entertainment Cttee at the LSE displayed good musical taste to go with their undoubted forthcoming fiscal abilities. Can't remember who the support was. Suffice to say the Alkies were good every time I saw them before and just after the album was released - they were also the support band for ye olde heritage Manneband on the final tour - then they went and tried to write a second album, demo-ed a few tracks that weren't nearly as good, changed bassists - the replacement could play fine, but they did lose a backing vocal...then....sniff....   
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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2012, 08:52:54 PM »
So let's get down to the really obscure stuff. I'm supposed to keep this secret...well call me a big softy, but for 5000 I will run you off a copy of this extremely rare DVD of Man with Mike Oldfield and Jack Bruce - see here: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8018442&style=movie

I look forward to your requests. Why are you looking at me like that.

 
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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »
Not sure how legible this will turn out - shame that 'preview' doesn't display the attachments - an article on Man from a magazine called OD which was being sold at the 1976 Reading Festival. As far as I know there was never an issue 2. You can expand the image by clicking on it, but theoretically here's the cover and the two page article....fingers crossed.... 
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2012, 09:23:14 PM »
Not sure how legible this will turn out - shame that 'preview' doesn't display the attachments - an article on Man from a magazine called OD which was being sold at the 1976 Reading Festival. As far as I know there was never an issue 2. You can expand the image by clicking on it, but theoretically here's the cover and the two page article....fingers crossed....

Very legible thank you. Deke's lawyers may have a comment to make? Deke and the Fire Carackers?? Yes, I am referring to the later reference to Deke and John Mck. A strange and unheard of alleged quote from Deke about the audience being 16 & 17 yr olds. If that was correct, surely the band would have continued? Some other strange stuff I felt, but that was a great read, thank you. (Also note there's an article on Rick Griffin?)

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2012, 11:26:07 PM »
Not sure how legible this will turn out - shame that 'preview' doesn't display the attachments - an article on Man from a magazine called OD which was being sold at the 1976 Reading Festival. As far as I know there was never an issue 2. You can expand the image by clicking on it, but theoretically here's the cover and the two page article....fingers crossed.... 

Perfectly readable and a good read to.Thanks for posting Nick

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Re: Man & Fat Grapple Poster
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 07:20:10 PM »
Yes, I am referring to the later reference to Deke and John Mck.

I think I can re-assure you on that point, Rob - JM told me yonks ago that he thought it was Deke more than anyone who wanted him in. Although they all did!

A strange and unheard of alleged quote from Deke about the audience being 16 & 17 yr olds. If that was correct, surely the band would have continued?

A lot of people who had got into the band up to 'BGTY' and 'BITF' lost interest when 'RWL' came out and further lost interest on the release of 'SM', particularly with regard to the 'Day And Night' single. On each tour I'd look around for familiar faces and they'd been swapped with new people! Mind you, they could have been avoiding me come to think of it. The audience did indeed seem to get younger in general, so more prone to following whatever was the fad at the time (particularly in the UK). I reckon if 'The Welsh Connection', albeit with two stronger tracks than what was released had come out either 5 years before or 5 years after it would have been a belter. Perhaps.
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