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Mike Morgan

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Quadrophenia
« on: January 24, 2013, 11:54:57 PM »
Wasn't Ball Boy a song from that?


Hope the ball boy is okay......didn't realise being a ball boy was such a hazard!

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 12:49:36 AM »
The little git....had a face like Suarez rolling around! Peeping up to see if the ref was looking. A good kick up the hole a la quadrophenia would have been the right job.

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 01:17:04 AM »
I agree with rockprof. Ballboy was a little git who deserved a good tw*tt*ng. Now he's a hero amongst similar one cells.

Of course the player shouldn't have kicked him, but on the verge of being knocked out in tthe semi's. Players train and gear themselves up, storing up adrenaline, all released in just 90 minutes high pressure tension. Sorry, but I'd have done what Hazard did.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 06:38:56 AM »
I agree with rockprof. Ballboy was a little git who deserved a good tw*tt*ng. Now he's a hero amongst similar one cells.

Of course the player shouldn't have kicked him, but on the verge of being knocked out in tthe semi's. Players train and gear themselves up, storing up adrenaline, all released in just 90 minutes high pressure tension. Sorry, but I'd have done what Hazard did.

I'm so glad that makes it alright  ::)

Sorry Rob - He's a professional fottballer and acted in a completely unprofessional way. Yes the Ball Boy was wrong but  he was assaulted by the player and the player should be banned - no question, no appeal - at least six months.

But the FA have so many differing standards on these things and no doubt somebody will pay the correct bribe!

If he gets away with it  a precedent will be set - whatever happened to the respect campaign?

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 11:51:59 AM »
Hi Tel,

I think we sort of agree. I didn't say it made it allright. I did say it was wrong. But as much as I have lost my overall love for football, mainly due to overpaid and pampered footballers (though a good many are not!), bottom ine is, any match, but particularly when you're about to lose a cup semi final, they wll be highly charged and adrenaline takes over.  Whether right or wrong, it's a fact. That little git didn't just take his time in giving the ball back, which if that was the case, Hazard woul deserve even more than you suggest, he dived on top of the ball! Hazard tried to retrieve it with hs hands and the fella wouldn't let go. 

Just because he's a pro footballer, doesn't mean to say he's a robot. Sometimes we expect even too much from footballer's. He's human. It wasn't a premeditated attack, it was heat of the moment.

As for the precedent. I'm not sure you have it the right way round. If he gets a long ban or similar, the precedent is set whereby ballboys (and ballgirls!) may also fall on the ball, and do ther bit to get their pet hated opposition player banned. And become a hero to their pals.

If no further action is taken against the player, it'll hopefully be forgotten about. I would suggest, the ballboy in question should be banned from attending matches as a spectator, let alone as a ballboy, so that a precedent is not set.  Swansea FC could be fined for not having proper control over their ballboys, though I feel that would be harsh.

Definitely agree with you regarding the FA.  Absolutely corrupt from Bernstein down (in my opinion of course). And at risk of offending our Mike from Clydach, Brooking getting a knighthood despite his cheating regarding WHU and the Tevez affair, is almost as bad as the scumbag Ferguson getting a knightood.

Right then, rant over. Since Tel introduced me to Sounds f the Sixties and BBC 4 on a Friday night, and Mikey M is an all round decent fella, I do love you both. Please don't fall fall out with me   ;D




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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 06:48:54 PM »
I can't see Sir Trevor cheating to be honest.  Being one of the most boring people ever to walk the eart, yes, but not a cheat.  Perhaps misguided?

Ropb - not sure I want to get into public declarations of love, I feel you're rushing me ;)

Martin Daughton

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 10:22:49 PM »
Good rant Rob. Sad that you're not the only one disillusioned with the game nowadays. My step-dad returned his season ticket because of the corporate greed and sway over the Bluebirds.

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2013, 01:52:11 PM »
 
 I would suggest, the ballboy in question should be banned from attending matches as a spectator, let alone as a ballboy, so that a precedent is not set. 

Unlikely.  He's the son of the owner.  Don't know why they hired him in the first place, he could have got in free anyway.  Spoiled little sh1t.


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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 02:24:16 PM »
Well Hazzard has been charged and the FA have said the usual punishment will be "clearly insufficient".

I take your point Rob and I can see the catch 22, it they don't punish Hazzard then the whole discipline structure could collapse but yes it could open the door to similar actions by ball boys. But the latter is for clubs and referees to sort out. The Ref is in overall charge on the pitch, which includes the outside and could banish any ball boy doing the same from the touchline. That would not reflect well on the club.

But, at the same time, it's not down to the players to become vigilantes in discipline matters - we had that in the 1990's with Cantona and Di Canio.

Lets wait and see.

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 03:11:38 PM »
Tel, at risk of me labouring the point, not saying players should be vigilantes or similar. Just saying in the heat of the moment, Hazard did what most if not all players would do.

All that said, the Bard has got it absolutely spot on. 

rockprof

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 03:32:23 PM »
If only Hazard had the presence of mind to stand there pointing at the fool lying on the ball, and had a good old laugh at him!

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2013, 03:55:03 PM »
If only Hazard had the presence of mind to stand there pointing at the fool lying on the ball, and had a good old laugh at him!

What???

With 10mins to go and you're about to lose a cup semi? Oi rockyprof, C'mon ;)

PS disappointed Mr H hasn't joined in on this with his view. Probably too busy with the top 3 all at home today. I think they say 'squeaky bum time'.

rockprof

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 04:16:20 PM »
Found that in the Albion training manual ;)

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 04:29:12 PM »
Found that in the Albion training manual ;)

Thought so. You'd know nothing about appearing in a cup semi would you?

Ok, ok. 1968,  Jeff Astle and all that. I know. Though The Bard's Derek Temple had the last word.

BOING BOING.  :)

Mike Morgan

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Re: Quadrophenia
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 05:02:48 PM »

But, at the same time, it's not down to the players to become vigilantes in discipline matters - we had that in the 1990's with Cantona and Di Canio.

Lets wait and see.

But Di Canio (is that the correct spelling?) redeemed himself magnificently when an opposing keeper (Everton's?) was down and won a fair play or whatever award.

Not saying the BB was right (but I found it funny), but what if it was a 'keeper rather than a BB that did similar?  All professionals fanny about if they want to keep the ball in / out of play?

Obviously I'm offering home support, but if the BB had given it back straight away it prob wouldn't have changed the result.  Chelsea had already started to demonstrate their frustration when Lampard pushed Britton for no apparent reason after a foul had been given by Britton on Cole (?). 
Apart from that, just finished watching Stoke v Man C and have never been so pleased to see a club, ant club, score a goal.  Veery drab match and no-one should have to endure a replay!  As far as I know there are no Man C followers here so this isn't aimed at anyone :)