Quadrophenia

[Davey]

hey all,im laid up here with some problems emanating from my back that should heal soon(peace to Colin J)so forgive me but since i have time to kill...i know nothing about this in so many ways but it sounded interesting so i googled it up...some daily mail, some youtube... is the kid seriously injured or something? he seemed to be hamming it up a little; after the  hazardous situation he found himself in... his pre game tweets about #time wasting(i hate the whole "hash tag" thing,why i ask? to me # will always be a pound sign;although i dont know what that means either)were lack lustre at best;not a good harbinger of whats to come...but the whole thing didnt look right...it looks downright weird to me just running over and trying to get the ball like that...i get it he was going for the ball...but er um there is like a person in the way dude...which brings me to my final point...dont be too much like your name in the wrong context... ex:  i work at a music school...we had a hurricane ...there was a gas shortage...the guy who runs the school was trying to get us to car pool to get to work...there were horrible gas lines...traffic...it wasnt feasible...he kept at it until (god bless him)we shut him down...last name: "Risko" (a real can do kind of guy;its risky hiring me for example but its been fruitful)... ex. 2. i had a sitar gig for a yoga class...one nite i sent a text late at night confirming...another time i used flowery language in a text "thank you so much for having me"...havent heard from the teacher in ages...last name :"Stickler"... ex. 3.  a non personal one whereas our congressman, Anthony Weiner got in trouble for tweeting a picture of well, his weiner... so this guys name is Hazard...he self involved himself in a hazardous situation;no one told him to do that. not a good look...he needs to avoid being too much like his name in the wrong way going forward;hes got to swing it... hopefully him and the 17 year old child both are presently living and learning as we speak...i know i am...cheers&peace... 

[Mike Morgan]

Davey, young (ish - 17!) kid slows the game down. pro footballer loses patience.  neither is in the right, but megabucks man should have handled it better.  Don't think it affected the result but hurt Chelsea's ego more than the BB's ribs.

[Rob W]

Davey, young (ish - 17!) kid slows the game down. pro footballer loses patience.  neither is in the right, but megabucks man should have handled it better.  Don't think it affected the result but hurt Chelsea's ego more than the BB's ribs.

Davey,  “a spoilt little shit” (quote Dave Bardsley Jan 26 2013) aged 17, an adult, and  no younger than some pro footballers, dived on top of the ball to purposely stop the player from getting the ball. Although the player probably is scandulously overpaid, he could not be blamed for kicking the “spoilt little shit”  because he had tried to get the ball with his hand, but was stopped. There were 10 minutes left in the game. The winners play in the cup final which will be one of the biggest games of a pro players career. His team was losing. After the match, which his team did lose, the “spoilt little shit” (yep, you guessed it, received apologies from the player and team, went in the team dressing room, and was treated like royalty. He's lucky they didn't finish the job off.

Anyway, Davey you may not understand this bit, but the “spoilt little shit”  was lucky the player was Hazard, because if it was Ashley Cole, he'd have shot him. And if it was John Terry, he'd have given his mum a good seeing to!!

[Rob W]

Hmmmm!  Read my post, and it could appear I was having a dig at our Mr M.

Honestly matey,  the laughing icon thing is to show it was worded as banter. Thought I'd say, just in case.

[rockprof]

Get well soon Davey. This must all be a little bit confusing, but (and I must choose my words carefully here) the British, (subdivided between Wales, Scotland, England, and a bit of Ireland (!) spend an inordinate amount of time discussing the merits of 22 men kicking a ball around a field. I believe baseball and your version of 'football' hold a similar fascination. If you ever decide to take an interest in the sport, then I recommend you start with West Bromwich Albion football club, winners of the FA cup 5 times, and last seen in a semi final as little as 5 years ago. Unlike Bury FC.
Unfortunately, Bury's biggest supporter, again I choose my words carefully, has seen the Man Band many more times than I, so I'd call that even.
P.S. There are lots of other clubs you could take an interest in, such as West Ham, Swansea, Partick Thistle, Everton, to name but a few, but that Bury chap has the run on me! I'd swap those 5 cup wins any day for the gigs he was at! Good luck and keep well!
PPS. To whom it may concern. What would be better? Bury cup final win? Or the best Man gig of all time?   

[Tel]

Davey, young (ish - 17!) kid slows the game down. pro footballer loses patience.  neither is in the right, but megabucks man should have handled it better.  Don't think it affected the result but hurt Chelsea's ego more than the BB's ribs.

Davey,  “a spoilt little shit” (quote Dave Bardsley Jan 26 2013) aged 17, an adult, and  no younger than some pro footballers, dived on top of the ball to purposely stop the player from getting the ball. Although the player probably is scandulously overpaid, he could not be blamed for kicking the “spoilt little shit”  because he had tried to get the ball with his hand, but was stopped. There were 10 minutes left in the game. The winners play in the cup final which will be one of the biggest games of a pro players career. His team was losing. After the match, which his team did lose, the “spoilt little shit” (yep, you guessed it, received apologies from the player and team, went in the team dressing room, and was treated like royalty. He's lucky they didn't finish the job off.

Anyway, Davey you may not understand this bit, but the “spoilt little shit”  was lucky the player was Hazard, because if it was Ashley Cole, he'd have shot him. And if it was John Terry, he'd have given his mum a good seeing to!!

No Rob - that's my point. Hazzard has to be blamed. He should have pointed it out to one of the match officials to deal with and not gone vigilante. I don't care if he was in the World Cup Final he is a professional footballer and should have acted as such.

The bottom line is he assaulted the ball boy, regardless of what the BB did. It was wrong, and he must be and should be punished accordingly. More than anything else he undermined the authority of the match officials and that is wrong.

If Hazzard is not punished with the full force of the FA - and the local police are involved following complaints from some spectators - then the whole FA disciplinary system is in complete disrepute.

[Dave Bardsley]

Thought so. You'd know nothing about appearing in a cup semi would you?

Ok, ok. 1968,  Jeff Astle and all that. I know. Though The Bard's Derek Temple had the last word.

BOING BOING. 

Time for your corrective therapy dear boy:  Derek Temple's final was 1966, the great come-back against Sheffield Wednesday.  Astle was '68 - he scored in every round of the cup, including the winning extra time goal against Everton in the final.  I still have a little place in purgotry reserved for WBA  .  Still, we won the league in '69  .

[Mike Morgan]

Hmmmm!  Read my post, and it could appear I was having a dig at our Mr M.

Honestly matey,  the laughing icon thing is to show it was worded as banter. Thought I'd say, just in case.

Rob, the thought never entered my head but I still think the kick was out of order even if footage from another angle (which I haven't seen) shows that he kicked the ball.  However, I must say I loved the way that the 'little shit' seemed to be appealing to the ref for a free kick.

Is it true that sport is supposed to bring out the best in people

[Michael Heatley]

PS disappointed Mr H hasn't joined in on this with his view.

Did someone say something? 

[Rob W]

PS disappointed Mr H hasn't joined in on this with his view.

Did someone say something? 

Sorry, wrong Mr H.

I was referring to Mr Heron.

 

[Rob W]

Get well soon Davey. This must all be a little bit confusing, but (and I must choose my words carefully here) the British, (subdivided between Wales, Scotland, England, and a bit of Ireland (!) spend an inordinate amount of time discussing the merits of 22 men kicking a ball around a field. I believe baseball and your version of 'football' hold a similar fascination. If you ever decide to take an interest in the sport, then I recommend you start with West Bromwich Albion football club, winners of the FA cup 5 times, and last seen in a semi final as little as 5 years ago. Unlike Bury FC.
Unfortunately, Bury's biggest supporter, again I choose my words carefully, has seen the Man Band many more times than I, so I'd call that even.
P.S. There are lots of other clubs you could take an interest in, such as West Ham, Swansea, Partick Thistle, Everton, to name but a few, but that Bury chap has the run on me! I'd swap those 5 cup wins any day for the gigs he was at! Good luck and keep well!
PPS. To whom it may concern. What would be better? Bury cup final win? Or the best Man gig of all time?   

[Rob W]

Get well soon Davey. This must all be a little bit confusing, but (and I must choose my words carefully here) the British, (subdivided between Wales, Scotland, England, and a bit of Ireland (!) spend an inordinate amount of time discussing the merits of 22 men kicking a ball around a field. I believe baseball and your version of 'football' hold a similar fascination. If you ever decide to take an interest in the sport, then I recommend you start with West Bromwich Albion football club, winners of the FA cup 5 times, and last seen in a semi final as little as 5 years ago. Unlike Bury FC.
Unfortunately, Bury's biggest supporter, again I choose my words carefully, has seen the Man Band many more times than I, so I'd call that even.
P.S. There are lots of other clubs you could take an interest in, such as West Ham, Swansea, Partick Thistle, Everton, to name but a few, but that Bury chap has the run on me! I'd swap those 5 cup wins any day for the gigs he was at! Good luck and keep well!
PPS. To whom it may concern. What would be better? Bury cup final win? Or the best Man gig of all time?   

Right then, in order of highlighted points:-

I underestimaed the power of the Throstles. I thought your mot recent emi final was all those years ago. Sorry   

I am not Bury's biggest supporter. Not in height (if only!!), or weight (though I've been doing my best with chocs and beer to redress this, but rejoined the gym, doing a bit of running again, so trying to get back to as t should be), and not in terms of loyalty. Almost 300 away at Southend on a freezing Tuesday night in the FA Cup puts me to shame.

And what a question.  Man or Shakers. blimey, it's like asking who do you prefer, your son or daughter. Mood swings will take you one way or the other, but you love them boh a s much as each other.
So then, to answer the point. Supporting a football team is not like having a favourite band. So in all honesty, has to be Bury in a Cup Final win. ut has to be a real cup. Not the Johnstone Paints Trophy for the Down and Outs !!
BUT!!! maybe this is fantasy, but if the best Man gig ever was to be in the future, and included George and Bob, all in harmony, that would be my number one. 

 

[Rob W]

Thought so. You'd know nothing about appearing in a cup semi would you?

Ok, ok. 1968,  Jeff Astle and all that. I know. Though The Bard's Derek Temple had the last word.

BOING BOING. 

Time for your corrective therapy dear boy:  Derek Temple's final was 1966, the great come-back against Sheffield Wednesday.  Astle was '68 - he scored in every round of the cup, including the winning extra time goal against Everton in the final.  I still have a little place in purgotry reserved for WBA  .  Still, we won the league in '69  .

Yes, sorry.  You'l have to buy me a pint next December 14th.

Or should that be the other way round?   


Sorry to change the subject.  Am in my office, submitting my tax return    Nothing like leaving it to the last minute    But, I'm listening to The Magic Band, live in Liverpol 29/09/2012 on sugarmegs. Just singing 'Yellow Brick Road' . Better than any football related topic. Beautiful just beautiful   

 

[Allan Heron]

Ah, I see Rob is calling for my opinion.  I'm with Tel on this one.   The attempts by some others in the game to excuse Hazard are pretty despicable.

Also, the more you watch the incident, the more it looks like he is having a go at the ballboy rather than the ball.  Any you can clearly see him making contact as well

[Rob W]

Oi, don't call me despicable. Sorry I asked your opinion now. Actually I didn't, I was asking the other Mr H.

I think I'm going to have to agree to disagree with.....everyone else ( !!) ..... I think.

Like I said, not defending his actions as such, I think empathy is the word I'm looking for.

Hazard got his punishment. The ball boy got his glory. The FA should not try to hide their murky selves behind their sacrificial lamb. Should now be forgotten aboutan otherwise a very dangerous precedent will be set. That of the ballboys being a 12th player. (With some clubs, it is already the case)