Author Topic: New info about "Help Yourself etc - Sportspalast, Berlin, Winter 1971"  (Read 530 times)

Mike Cross

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I've just found out some new info about a recording that circulates as Man / Flying Aces / Help Yourself - Sportspalast, Berlin, Winter 1971, which was discussed here back in 2009.

The expanded info from 2009 is:

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Help Yourself & Flying Aces   Sportspalast, Berlin, Late 1972

This came to me as Man / Flying Aces / Help Yourself - Sportspalast, Berlin, Winter 1971

1.   Hey Baby    5:49
2.   Mona    8:09
3.   Manillo    4:57
4.   Reaffirmation    15:51
5.   Eddie Waring, Part 1    10:34
6.   Eddie Waring, Part 2    3:16
7.   7171-551    8:18
   Total   56:54

An article in "The Welsh Connection" #12 entitled "Foreign Radio & TV Appearances" describes this as:

German radio 1972 (unknown duration)
Performed: Unknown (see comments below)
Line-up: Malcolm Morley (vocals, keyboards, guitar), Richard Treece (guitar), Dave Charles (drums), Deke Leonard (guitar, vocals), Martin Ace (bass, vocals), George Ace (guitar, vocals) and Tony 'Plum' Hollis (vocals)

This was a live broadcast from a late 1972 Berlin Sportspalast gig where the Helps were augmented by various Welsh luminaries. Songs thought to have been played by this ensemble include 'Mona', 'Manillo', 'Reaffirmation', 'Eddie Waring' and '7171 551'.

Another description:

"From what I have been able to piece together about the Sportspalast Berlin 'Winter 1971' tape it seems that this was really a Help Yourself gig from late 1972 when Deke was with them, and Martin was there too as a precursor to 'Happy Days'. Plum Hollis (vocals) is also in there somewhere. The first track is labelled on my tape as the Flying Aces (line-up unknown), with the rest by Help Yourself (Morley/Charles/Treece/Burton) augmented by Deke (definitely), Martin?, and Plum? There was supposed to have been a German radio broadcast of this, but I've never come across a copy. Unless it was a better sounding version of this audience tape that was used."

For the story of Help Yourself, see http://terrascope.co.uk/MyBackPages/helps.html. Richard Treece & Ken Whaley play in The Green Ray nowadays, see http://www.senzatempo.co.uk/html/the_green_ray.html


The new info is:

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this was promoted by sfb (a very famous progessive Berlin fm station back then ) to celebrate the 1.500th broadcast of "Rock Pop Non Stop". The show was held at Sportpalast, Berlin on March 13th 1973. Main band was an obscure band named "Scare Crew" that included members from Help Yourself, Flying Aces and Man. More info (in german) and ticket scan see here:
https://www.rockinberlin.de/index.php?title=13._M%C3%A4rz_1973_s-f-beat_Non_Stop_Rock_Pop

Iowerth Pritchard

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I've just found out some new info about a recording that circulates as Man / Flying Aces / Help Yourself - Sportspalast, Berlin, Winter 1971, which was discussed here back in 2009.


The new info is:

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this was promoted by sfb (a very famous progessive Berlin fm station back then ) to celebrate the 1.500th broadcast of "Rock Pop Non Stop". The show was held at Sportpalast, Berlin on March 13th 1973. Main band was an obscure band named "Scare Crew" that included members from Help Yourself, Flying Aces and Man. More info (in german) and ticket scan see here:
https://www.rockinberlin.de/index.php?title=13._M%C3%A4rz_1973_s-f-beat_Non_Stop_Rock_Pop

A nice find - interesting that Deke was still involved with the Helps as late as March'73.

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Is the live version of 7171 551 from 72? If it was that means it would have predated the iceberg album release.