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Iowerth Pritchard

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To Live For To Die
« on: May 12, 2008, 12:19:14 PM »
Does anyone have any concrete evidence as to exactly where and when 'To Live For To Die'/'The Honest One' was recorded? Potential dates range from March to October 1970, with venues of Ernst-Merck-Halle or Stadtpark, Hamburg.  Can anyone shed any more light on it?

John Bannon

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Re: To Live For To Die
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2008, 04:45:12 PM »
Iowerth Pritchard, this answer may contain conjecture. I have two copies of what was once termed The Violet System 2LP, a definite German copy with no title and Man emblazoned across the cover in bold black and white lettering and this is where the conjecture comes, a copy that was sold to me as French, titled, to live for to die, with the red and black skeleton on the cover . Theres nothing on the latter LP to suggest it has anything to do with France.
Having read your question, dug out the LP's and scruitinised them for dates there's nothing on the covers or labels of either album. Had a look at the vinyl and on both copies in the run off area at the end of the disc is the date 30/06/70. Hope this helps. John B.
Anybody got a clue why a bootleg should have two different covers and which countries they eminate from?

Rob the Organ

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Re: To Live For To Die
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 03:34:42 PM »
Well, MJ himself claimed that Terry's first gig was "that bootleg album" (TWC #20 Backtracking feature on "Man"). Elsewhere members of the band have also stated that it was at the Stadtpark in Hamburg and that the promoter of that gig was the one who taped it. Mannerisms supports this notion by way of the fact that the Stadtpark show was the 1st gig of line up #4.

Tantalisingly it is also noted that the gig was filmed for German TV. Come on Gav....get your spies out.