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joan

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NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« on: February 10, 2010, 10:36:43 PM »
Here you have another great video, this time from Hamburg 1998.
Once again many thanks to John Bannon!

Man at Kunos, Hamburg 25th march 1998
interview and live pieces, German TV.
16 min, split in two videos.
Line up: Micky Jones, Deke Leonard, Martin Ace, Phil Ryan and Bob Richards.
Whole band is interviewed and there are live pieces of songs (Ride and the view, Do it and C'mon)

1st part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sVkXC4rLdg

2nd part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5mn42mvzXo

It would be interesting to translate the german talking to know wtf they say...

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 02:13:14 AM »
Thanks for that Joan, I'll have a look tomorrow..

It would be interesting to translate the german talking to know wtf they say...

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 09:34:58 AM »
Thanks Joan and John again!

It would be interesting to translate the german talking to know wtf they say...

It's a bit odd that the presenter talks over his own interview! Doubles the amount of translation involved!

Tidy performances as well, inevitably MJ comes out with some wonderful sounds!  8)

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Is that Viking for Mikes?

Sooner or later (ideally sooner) that Golders Green OGWT footage will emerge...
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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 12:14:21 PM »
Job for Petes

Is that Viking for Mikes?
..could be, it was a long day..
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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 08:31:51 PM »
It would be nice to know whats being said, not word for word but an overview would suffice, maybe Mikes could help......

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 11:12:27 PM »
Here you are, John:

Mainly most of the time he overdubs what you can hear from the band. He starts off with the clip at the Hamburg Star Club in '69, saying he only recognized Micky and Martin who started their world career there and then. That then meant to be 15-minute-songs, closed eyes and some shit (drugs here) now and then, he says. Martin, he continues, just having replaced Deke who, the guy remembers, had been in jail for smuggling drugs. Then the guy retells the story of Deke returning to the fold, Martin switching to bass and the former bass player (Ray) being fired.

The curtain bit: He doesn't get Martins account on Clive, he just gets the organ bit and pretends not to remember that he'd been the one closing the curtain on those unwelcome organ sounds coming from Clives instrument.

The Buddy Holly bit: When Martin explains to him that BH had been a progressive musician for writing the bands stuff himself the guy doesn't want to agree. When Phil puts in "true love ways" as an example the guy offers that Peter Gordons' had been the better version. He instantly feels he's overdone it and comments: Phil Ryan almost lost his religion.

The music influence bit: I think you understand everything there Martin says - direct translation there.

Ending the interview he's impressed what sorts of emotions he evicts by mentioning Genesis. He ends the interview saying: "This is the right moment for me to say good-bye. The band Man was very nice, very agreeable ... you can wave to over here, you can wave to Elton (?) over there ... well, they said it ... Genesis, Phil Collins. But Genesis not only included Phil Collins, they included Peter Gabriel, now they have  one Ray Wilson as a singer ... all crap, all crap (repeats Deke's thoughts on Genesis), but nevertheless, towards the end I want to play Genesis to annoy Man ..."  
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« Last Edit: February 11, 2010, 11:16:30 PM by mikes »

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 11:47:31 PM »
Here you are, John:

Mainly most of the time he overdubs what you can hear from the band. He starts off with the clip at the Hamburg Star Club in '69, saying he only recognized Micky and Martin who started their world career there and then. That then meant to be 15-minute-songs, closed eyes and some shit (drugs here) now and then, he says. Martin, he continues, just having replaced Deke who, the guy remembers, had been in jail for smuggling drugs. Then the guy retells the story of Deke returning to the fold, Martin switching to bass and the former bass player (Ray) being fired.

The curtain bit: He doesn't get Martins account on Clive, he just gets the organ bit and pretends not to remember that he'd been the one closing the curtain on those unwelcome organ sounds coming from Clives instrument.

The Buddy Holly bit: When Martin explains to him that BH had been a progressive musician for writing the bands stuff himself the guy doesn't want to agree. When Phil puts in "true love ways" as an example the guy offers that Peter Gordons' had been the better version. He instantly feels he's overdone it and comments: Phil Ryan almost lost his religion.

The music influence bit: I think you understand everything there Martin says - direct translation there.

Ending the interview he's impressed what sorts of emotions he evicts by mentioning Genesis. He ends the interview saying: "This is the right moment for me to say good-bye. The band Man was very nice, very agreeable ... you can wave to over here, you can wave to Elton (?) over there ... well, they said it ... Genesis, Phil Collins. But Genesis not only included Phil Collins, they included Peter Gabriel, now they have  one Ray Wilson as a singer ... all crap, all crap (repeats Deke's thoughts on Genesis), but nevertheless, towards the end I want to play Genesis to annoy Man ..."  
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Thank You for that mikes, makes more sense of the interview, I feel ashamed that we have to ask you to explain whats going on, when as a German person you can speak better English than most of us.
Hopefully Joan will put up the video of 'The Jets' in Germany from the early 60's which must come from a documentary...way back when, if he does so, would appreciate you giving another overview of this. Come on Joan, put it up, Deke and Martin looking like they have just left school.........

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 01:43:06 AM »
OK, please give me time. Maybe next monday or tuesday.
You already have a piece of that in the first "God Walking Past" documentary.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2010, 01:44:52 AM by joan »

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 11:35:25 AM »
Thanks Joan.

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 08:10:43 PM »
Don't be ashamed, John, I spent some time in Britain, so I do understand quite a bit. When at school I was tought French as well. But when I recently went to Morocco I found out that I wasn't able to remember a lot. That sucks!

And I'm looking forward to that Jets video, too. Take your time, Joan ...  ;)

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 12:28:58 PM »

And I'm looking forward to that Jets video, too. Take your time, Joan ...  ;)

Hey, is that Joan Jett a message boarder? I'll go for that....

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 02:38:01 PM »
I'm uploading it, more news later.
There is Martin and Deke in the band. I don't know the drummer, I suppose the singer is Plum Hollis.
They are NOT The Jets in this video. We can see it clear in the bass drum: they are Smokeless Zone.

from my Terry Williams page:
Terry joined SMOKELESS ZONE (first known as THE JETS)
in summer 1966 with Deke Leonard, Martin Ace and Plum Hollis.


Here you have a photo of Terry when he was the Smokeless Zone drummer. He used the same logo than the drummer of the video.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 02:40:00 PM by joan »

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 04:02:36 PM »
Good research Joan, never realised it was Smokeless Zone. It says in the bible( Mannerisms) Alan Walker replaced Plum Hollis for a few weeks in Hamburg around 1966.

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Re: NEW Youtube video: MAN 1998 interview and live pieces
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 05:02:48 PM »
I announce the upload in other new thread.